| kenvandine | jamesh, hey | 01:39 |
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| kenvandine | jamesh, we merged both of the helper PRs today | 01:39 |
| kenvandine | jamesh, i tested with a gnome snap using the platform and oSoMoN tested one using desktop-gtk3 | 01:40 |
| kenvandine | both worked... but looking at the forum it looks like some others using desktop-gtk3 are hitting issues | 01:40 |
| kenvandine | jamesh, https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/running-gtk3-app-as-snap-cannot-find-schemas/2991 | 01:40 |
| kenvandine | and | 01:40 |
| kenvandine | https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/glib-error-snap-not-working-anymore/2990 | 01:40 |
| kenvandine | abort loading schemas | 01:40 |
| kenvandine | :/ | 01:40 |
| kenvandine | jamesh, i've also rebuilt all of the gnome snaps and tested them | 01:41 |
| kenvandine | all worked fine | 01:41 |
| jamesh | kenvandine: looking | 01:41 |
| kenvandine | but of course those are using the gnome platform snap | 01:41 |
| kenvandine | so i think it's just a problem without the platform snap | 01:41 |
| kenvandine | but oSoMoN had tested that, but I think with just one snp | 01:42 |
| kenvandine | snap | 01:42 |
| kenvandine | oh, maybe his didn't need schemas | 01:42 |
| jamesh | kenvandine: this is weird. I wouldn't have expected any behaviour change for desktop-gtk3, since we shouldn't have any gschemas.compiled | 01:51 |
| jamesh | trying out the linked snapcraft.yaml | 01:51 |
| kenvandine | yeah, me either | 01:51 |
| kenvandine | jamesh, i need to step away, but if you get a fix ping me and i'll get it merged quickly | 01:52 |
| jamesh | okay | 01:52 |
| kenvandine | jamesh, can you ping me on telegram? | 01:52 |
| jamesh | sure | 01:53 |
| kenvandine | and i'll hop on | 01:53 |
| kenvandine | thx | 01:53 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 06:42 |
| andyrock | good morning seb128 | 07:56 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers! | 08:46 |
| seb128 | hey andyrock oSoMoN | 08:57 |
| oSoMoN | salut seb128 | 08:58 |
| oSoMoN | ça va? | 08:58 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, nickel, levé un peu tôt à mon gout (5h30) mais ça devient une habitude | 09:01 |
| seb128 | du moins d'habitude c'est plutôt 6h15 | 09:01 |
| seb128 | et toi ? | 09:02 |
| oSoMoN | ça va bien, moi je me suis levé plus tard que d’habitude aujourd’hui, 6:30 :) | 09:13 |
| oSoMoN | la différence thermique entre sous la couette et dehors était dissuasive | 09:14 |
| willcooke | morning gang | 09:14 |
| seb128 | hehe | 09:15 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke, how is London today? | 09:15 |
| oSoMoN | hey willcooke | 09:18 |
| willcooke | It's pretty cold here today | 09:19 |
| willcooke | Luckily no delays on the train so I didnt have to stand outside very much :) | 09:19 |
| willcooke | No such luck for didrocks though, flight delayed for de-icing | 09:20 |
| doko | willcooke: why is cdbs seeded in supported-desktop-extra? can we remove it? | 11:18 |
| willcooke | doko: is there anything else keeping it in main? Well, maybe not needed nowdays as it's only a build-dep | 11:21 |
| doko | willcooke: I don't think so. Please reply to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cdbs/+bug/1735395 | 11:23 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1735395 in cdbs (Ubuntu) "cdbs: demote the package or use Python3 instead of Python2" [Undecided,New] | 11:23 |
| willcooke | doko, ack | 11:30 |
| willcooke | seb128, you OK to drop it from the seeds? didrocks is +1 ^ | 11:41 |
| doko | willcooke: same for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/subversion/+bug/1735403 | 11:58 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1735403 in subversion (Ubuntu) "supported-development-desktop seeds subversion and subversion-tools (Python2)" [Undecided,New] | 11:58 |
| willcooke | doko, +1 to remove. (also: wow! ;) ) Commented on bug | 12:01 |
| kenvandine | jamesh, thanks for that fix | 13:08 |
| seb128 | doko, could you please stop assigning bugs to "ubuntu-desktop", that's the wrong team and leads to spam on the desktop mailing list which is used as contact for that one | 14:45 |
| doko | seb128: which team instead? | 14:46 |
| seb128 | doko, you can using canonical-desktop-team if that's the intend | 14:46 |
| doko | ok | 14:46 |
| seb128 | or don't assign to a team and just assume whoever has interest to the package already receive bug emails | 14:47 |
| doko | seb128: where is this documented? | 14:47 |
| seb128 | thanks | 14:47 |
| seb128 | I don't think it is | 14:47 |
| xnox | seb128, which team assignement do you use to prioritise rls-incoming bugs for your team? and which team is used as subscriber for those reports? usually same one as the MIR subscriber team. | 14:48 |
| xnox | i believe the current mapping is ubuntu-desktop, and maybe that needs updating. | 14:49 |
| seb128 | xnox, desktop-packages | 14:49 |
| xnox | ah | 14:49 |
| seb128 | and I doubt it is ubuntu-desktop | 14:49 |
| seb128 | xnox, oh, since you are around, did you see that Steve had a question for you on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1727237 ? | 14:52 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1727237 in systemd (Ubuntu) "systemd-resolved is not finding a domain" [High,Triaged] | 14:52 |
| doko | willcooke: update the seeds, will follow-up tomorrow once the changes are published | 14:57 |
| willcooke | doko, update = updated? | 15:03 |
| willcooke | i.e. you have done already? | 15:03 |
| doko | yes, just committed | 15:07 |
| doko | willcooke: unrelated, but just because libglade2 is connected with Python2. do you have a baseline what needs to be done to demote the gtk2 stack? | 15:30 |
| willcooke | doko, thanks! | 15:30 |
| willcooke | doko, @ gtk2 - jbicha has been looking at that I think | 15:30 |
| gQuigs | doko: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1585903 | 15:36 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1585903 in Ubuntu GNOME "Make it possible to remove gtk2" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 15:36 |
| jbicha | doko: are you planning to have Firefox not support Flash at all? because that seems like a pretty big blocker to demoting gtk2 | 15:41 |
| doko | jbicha: I don't have any shares in firefox. and no foundations doesn't maintain rust either | 15:42 |
| jbicha | I'm working to reducing the number of things in a default Ubuntu 18.04 install (at least in English) that depends on gtk2 (maybe even to 0) | 15:42 |
| jbicha | but dropping gtk2 from main is something much bigger than that | 15:43 |
| doko | jbicha: I really would recommend filing bugs like I do for py2-demotion. Then you at least know what needs to be done | 15:43 |
| jbicha | maybe, it's not something I think is that important this year | 15:44 |
| jbicha | doko: since you seem eager to demote and remove, do you want to handle some of the removals from LP: #1710318 ? | 15:45 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1710318 in xiphos (Ubuntu) "Please remove webkit1 rdepends removed from Debian Testing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1710318 | 15:45 |
| doko | you have to break down big tasks ... | 15:45 |
| doko | sorry, haven't looked at that at all | 15:46 |
| jbicha | full webkit2gtk removal is blocked on packaging gnucash 2.7 https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases | 15:46 |
| jbicha | doko: well since you're asking everyone else to look at stuff, I thought I'd return the favor ;) | 15:47 |
| jbicha | *full webkitgtk removal | 15:47 |
| jbicha | the webkitgtk removal bug was filed a few months ago and is actually planned for 18.04 LTS | 15:48 |
| doko | jbicha: well, upload it, and then remove | 15:48 |
| jbicha | could you talk to slangasek about gnucash since he's the developer that is most interested in it working from what I've heard | 15:49 |
| jbicha | since you're asking me to do stuff, I'm asking you to do stuff in exchange :) | 15:50 |
| gQuigs | Flash support will be removed from Firefox before 20.04 LTS, just saying... https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Plugins/Roadmap | 15:54 |
| jbicha | gQuigs: yes, but do_ko seemed impatient ;) | 15:56 |
| jbicha | seb128: the USB seeds haven't been used for anything in years, right? | 15:58 |
| jbicha | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.bionic/files | 15:58 |
| jbicha | doko: I think webkitgtk removal is arguably Foundation's job anyway but I've done a lot of the work so far :) | 16:00 |
| doko | jbicha: webkit was mostly maintained by desktop and security, afaik. but why not just upload a new gnucash? | 16:01 |
| Trevinho | ah, hey guys | 16:01 |
| jbicha | doko: slangasek already started on that job, but there's been a new point release since then. I'd rather not duplicate his work and I don't use gnucash | 16:03 |
| jbicha | wk removal at this point is mostly an AA job | 16:06 |
| seb128 | jbicha, I don't know for what it was used exactly before, I don't think we provided an usb iso, some people might still use today for the same things it was used before | 16:06 |
| seb128 | jbicha, could be a question for the devel list? | 16:08 |
| jbicha | seb128: but as far as we know, there isn't anything to actually build a unique USB version of Ubuntu with those extra packages, right? | 16:09 |
| seb128 | correct | 16:10 |
| seb128 | I don't remember if that seed was ever used to build an image | 16:11 |
| seb128 | or what was the intend | 16:11 |
| jbicha | I think it was used to build a larger image back when we tried to fit things on a CD | 16:12 |
| jbicha | I'm asking now because inkscape (still gtk2) is seeded there but we don't need inkscape in main, right? | 16:13 |
| doko | hehe, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/inkscape/+bug/1735363 | 16:14 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1735363 in inkscape (Ubuntu) "inkscape: Use/Port of Python3 needed, or considering demotion" [Undecided,New] | 16:14 |
| gQuigs | jbicha: there have been various usb images over the years -http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/ http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/ | 16:15 |
| seb128 | jbicha, the usb set is keeping things in main? anyway I don't think that seed makes any sense nowadays since our current iso is basically an usb one, can you email devel about removing it see if anyone know of a reason not? | 16:15 |
| jbicha | ok | 16:18 |
| didrocks | nice, plane back is already delayed by an hour | 16:24 |
| * didrocks should arrive at 1:30am at best at home :/ | 16:25 | |
| jbicha | seb128: oh, there is an "Ubuntu desktop USB" task in tasksel | 16:43 |
| jbicha | but the packages remaining in the usb seed feel like very odd choices now | 16:46 |
| willcooke | Trevinho, we're trying the xrandr scaling fix to fake fractional scaling under xorg on 17.10, but the mouse now only goes halfway across the screen. I think that's a known issue - but is there another way to get 1.5x scaling under gnome shell and xorg by changing the xorg conf file or something like that? | 17:29 |
| Trevinho | willcooke: so that xorg bug is known | 17:32 |
| Trevinho | willcooke: and there's a fix upstream which #workshere | 17:32 |
| Trevinho | but... not pushed or reviewed for ages | 17:32 |
| Trevinho | but I'm using that patch locally for a while and I noticed no problems with it | 17:32 |
| willcooke | Trevinho, got a ppa? :) | 17:32 |
| Trevinho | willcooke: nope, just compiled manualliy | 17:33 |
| Trevinho | willcooke: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/883319 | 17:33 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 883319 in X.Org X server "xrandr --scale restricts area in which mouse moves" [High,Incomplete] | 17:33 |
| Trevinho | this is the patch v | 17:33 |
| Trevinho | https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=94929 | 17:33 |
| Trevinho | I pinged some time ago tjaalton about it, but he rightfully said we need to wait upstream to review it. It's just taht it's getting oooold. | 17:34 |
| mdeslaur | lol @ hostname in that bug ("jos@samsungsucks:~$ lsb_release -rd") | 17:34 |
| kenvandine | lol | 17:35 |
| Trevinho | :-D | 17:35 |
| Trevinho | willcooke: as for other ways to get that... I'm not sure to be fair, I've never checked but there should be a way. | 17:35 |
| Trevinho | I wanted mutter to do it as fallback, but since this xorg issue and the fact that there's no acceleration on it, I'm not sure if it's a solution for all the problems | 17:36 |
| Trevinho | we can try to have that though | 17:36 |
| Trevinho | it was my fallback idea for having the shell to scale fractionally even on x11 | 17:38 |
| willcooke | Trevinho, np - got it to work with the --panning hack | 17:39 |
| willcooke | thanks | 17:39 |
| Trevinho | willcooke: oh, but with panning it will move around the screen, no? | 17:39 |
| willcooke | we set it to be the size of the new virtual desktop | 17:39 |
| willcooke | seems to work | 17:40 |
| oSoMoN | good night all | 18:12 |
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