[00:01] TJ-: Dang. I'm trying to think of something. Changing the most sensitive passwords so the ones in the KPXC db are invalid? [00:02] pizzaburger: this is one of the problems when you don't keep timely back-ups [00:02] pizzaburger: was it not distributed to other PCs? [00:03] TJ-: Absolutely, lessons will be learnt [00:04] hi, does anyone know how i can create a shortcut to scale 4 windows side by side on each of my dual monitors? [00:04] TJ-: Well, no. The issue is more concerning privacy, and not being unable to access services, since the vast majority of the passowords/logins are recently migrated from lastpass, and the rest are tied up with my email, so I can recover them [00:05] pizzaburger: oh, well that's good news! I thought they were effectively lost [00:06] TJ-: So I can assume that it going to take no less than a few months to shed some light on this issue, right? [00:07] pizzaburger: weeks I'd hope; it depends on finding more time to debug some more; as you know, it's very time intensive when it has to be done remotely via third hands [00:08] TJ-: That's calming. So I still have a part in this? I though you had enough data [00:10] pizzaburger: no; because we still can't tell why you get the failed mount. The problem there is figuring out how to get more data. It looks like it may need some kernel debug probes setting up on the key ecrypfs functions, which is bad enough to do locally [00:12] TJ-: Oh wow, I understand now. So I [00:15] TJ-: [...] I'll start thinking about how to alleviate some of the privacy concerns if I should choose to send you the system. [00:15] TJ-: And of course if you decide to take on this task [00:17] hi, does anyone know of an easy way to create shortcuts to tile 4 windows side by side? [00:17] TJ-: In the meantime I'll be visiting here regulary, and if you have any updates just leave me a memo! [00:18] hello [00:18] I want my shell in colors [00:19] root have colors but can't get it on a user. i tried to add some lines found on google in .bashrc and execute it but with no luck [00:19] anyone can help [00:19] pizzaburger: will do once I've figured out a set of probes [00:21] TJ-: Okay, see you around, and thanks again! === Sven_vB_ is now known as Sven_vB [00:44] hi, does anyone how i can create a keyboard shortcut that resizes my window to a specific position on the screen (i'm trying to make it easy to have 4 text editors side by side)? [00:45] is anyone good with wine or playonlinux I could use some help, msg me if your available [00:47] so noone... [00:48] EldritchGuardian, we sk in channel here, for actual wine issues there is a place [00:48] and where is that? [00:48] #winehq EldritchGuardian after checking the appdb [00:48] !appdb | EldritchGuardian [00:48] EldritchGuardian: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help [00:49] yo guys, my Steam on linux wont start [00:49] i want my money back [00:49] ibmr50e, contact steam [00:50] ibmr50e, what seems to be the problem [00:51] where i can upload screenshot to show you guys? [00:51] imgur, postimg [01:00] ,g #packer-tool [01:00] oops [01:11] https://imgur.com/a/yrfdm [01:12] wat? [01:12] what are we mean to do with that? [01:12] nice .... blank signin screen [01:13] Let's give him his user id and password! [01:13] ibmr50e: are you using steam-runtime or steam-native? [01:13] these white squares dude [01:13] i love how you hid the tickbox. nice touch [01:13] and after i log in theres loggin procedure and it says "Updating User Configuration" and then all disappears [01:13] i didnt hide anything [01:14] these white squares are not made by me [01:14] ibmr50e: are you using steam-runtime or steam-native? [01:14] GUI is broken [01:14] steam-runtime i think [01:14] Running Steam on ubuntu 17.10 32-bit [01:14] STEAM_RUNTIME is enabled automatically [01:15] try running steam native and also try following an ubuntu guide to get it going [01:21] does anyone know if there's a way to create a specific terminal/application layout that loads on reboot? i'd like to have a number of text editors automatically launched and browsers positioned in specific areas on reboot. [01:23] here is my steam crash info: https://imgur.com/a/7efo0 !! [01:23] the reason is hidden here [01:25] post the dump [01:25] how do i open it [01:25] or where to upload [01:25] !sprunge [01:26] !pastebin [01:26] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [01:26] post the crash_2017.*.dmp file [01:29] steam is in the ubuntu multiverse [01:29] $ sudo add-apt-repository multiverse [01:29] $ sudo apt-get install steam [01:29] you should use that one [01:29] thats what i did too [01:29] didnt work too [01:30] i cant post crash.dmp it's not a text file!! [01:32] ibmr50e: reinstall mesa and maybe also possible lib32-mesa [01:32] kk [01:33] hello everyone, I am running into a problem that bothered me a lot. Whenever the bluetooth stops working then it does not work again. Anybody familiar with such a problem ? [01:34] sudo systemctl restart bluetooth.service [01:35] even that won't work [01:35] why not? [01:35] the main problem is that the device itself won't be up. hciconfig up fails [01:36] why not use bluetoothctl? [01:36] that's what I use. bluetoothctl show it will say power: no [01:36] power on [01:36] and if I try power on. It gives me an error. [01:37] what error? [01:37] Failed to start discovery: org.bluez.Error.NotReady [01:37] whenever I try scan on after a power on [01:37] im about to drill a screw into my skull, linux has to be so frustrating [01:37] Failed to set power on: org.bluez.Error.Failed [01:38] what is the output of: systemctl status bluetooth.service? [01:39] bluetoothd[1200]: Failed to set mode: Failed (0x03) [01:39] that is all? [01:39] that's like the last 10 lines that shows up [01:40] did you isntall the bluez and bluez-utils packages? [01:40] bluetoothd[4554]: Not enough free handles to register service [01:40] Nov 29 18:40:04 z50 bluetoothd[4554]: Not enough free handles to register service [01:40] Nov 29 18:40:04 z50 bluetoothd[4554]: Current Time Service could not be registered [01:40] Nov 29 18:40:04 z50 bluetoothd[4554]: gatt-time-server: Input/output error (5) [01:40] Nov 29 18:40:04 z50 bluetoothd[4554]: Not enough free handles to register service [01:40] Nov 29 18:40:04 z50 bluetoothd[4554]: Not enough free handles to register service [01:40] Nov 29 18:40:04 z50 bluetoothd[4554]: Sap driver initialization failed. [01:40] lol [01:40] lol [01:41] rip nitro [01:42] what is the output of rfkill nitrooogen [01:42] !paste [01:42] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [01:43] I am so sorry [01:43] I really a total noob [01:44] nitrooogen: rfkill list nitrooogen [01:44] the rfkill iis nothing blocked [01:45] like everything is no [01:45] did you isntall the bluez and bluez-utils packages? [01:46] what is bluez-utils ? [01:46] https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=bluez-utils [01:46] sudo apt-get install bluez bluez-utils [01:47] E: Package 'bluez-utils' has no installation candidate [01:47] !find bluez-utils [01:47] File bluez-utils found in logcheck-database [01:48] Bluez already comes installed in Ubuntu [01:48] make sure you have the bluez package though [01:48] yeah I have that and I also tried reinstall it and nothing was changed [01:49] journalctl -b 0 -u bluetooth.service [01:50] do you want me to paste it here ? [01:51] yes [01:51] use the pastebin [01:51] how to I use it ? (excuse my ignorance) [01:52] nitrooogen: journalctl -b 0 -u bluetooth.service| curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us [01:55] http://sprunge.us/HNPW [01:58] might be a bug / unsupported hardware. are you using a dongle by any chance? [01:59] No I am using the machine's device. [02:00] I thought the same thing because I saw different people using other distros having the same problem and the same machine [02:01] like most of the time a reboot would do it. But sometimes I need to do couple of reboots which I really hate doing especially in the middle of a movie or a long video. [02:02] Anyway, thank you very much for your time. I really appreciate your effort. [02:34] guys I think how to fast work with ubuntu server, and seems editor learn don't need [02:45] why is it when i try to install portaudio19-dev it tries to uninstall a bunch of other stuff? and why does apt show that it conflicts with packages which dont seem to exist? [02:47] arktvrvs: it's a dependency thing... [02:48] arktvrvs: the system actually tells you that if you know where to look === tilerendering_ is now known as tilerendering [02:51] 17.10 Ubuntu on gpd pocket anyone? [02:51] Hello. Running 17.04. Rebooted not long ago and now I have no sound. I could just exit and restart a session, or reboot, but I'd rather try to remedy or diagnose the problem. Any ideas where I should start? [03:08] Well... for the record, fixed it by running pavucontrol, and on the Configuration tab, changing Profile from Analog Stereo Duplex to another, and then back. [03:28] Hello! [03:28] Looking for help with a borked system [03:29] Attempted to update to ubuntu 17.10 from 16.04 by installing manually in a dual-boot system === r0Oter is now known as r00ter [03:30] have attempted getting help on the community forums, and in the ubuntu-budgie gitter channel [03:31] The problem seems to be that my partitions became unmounted. I'm trying to repair grub2 but unable to complete one of the steps [03:33] anyone on here that does support? [03:33] try to be more specific [03:34] ok thanks. will need a moment [03:44] Ok so essentially my story is, I set up a dual-boot system with Windows 10 and it's worked well for a while now. When I went to upgrade to 17.10 I read that you're supposed to use the built-in software update tool, but I didn't have an option to upgrade the OS from there [03:44] So, I created a new liveUSB with the 17.10 ISO, and tried to install that [03:45] I got an error message, and now when I try to boot into my 16.04 installation it drops me into initramfs [03:46] I can boot in using the 17.10 trial image, and I can see in gparted and from the command line that my old partitions and files are there - but when I try to install 17.10 using the installation wizard I don't have the option to mount anything [03:47] I was trying to do the grub2 re-install/repair workflow listed here: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd [03:47] I can mount the partition that includes the 16.04 OS, but when I try to do the chroot step it fails [03:52] Specifically, it fails with the message `chroot: failed to run command '/bin/bash': No such file or directory` [03:53] From what I can tell googling the error, the /mnt directory may not contain bash. I tried copying it and the utilities it depends on into there following a post I found online, but still get the same result [03:54] At this point, I'd just like to try and save my /home partition and I'll probably end up having to re-install [03:55] show me that chroot command you typed [03:55] but, I thought I'd check here as a last resort in case anyone has any ideas on how to remount/repair the existing partitions. At some point in my attempted rescue operations Windows also became unusable, and just shows a black Windows Boot Manger screen [03:55] sure, just a second [03:55] It was `sudo chroot /mnt` [03:56] per the grub2 repair instructions [03:58] blakehschwartz75: you did all of this? http://sprunge.us/SeRV [04:00] @ponyrider yes [04:00] and you are sure you mounted the correct partition? [04:00] what is the output of: sudo blkid [04:01] I'm pretty sure it's the one that I set up as /, which had the actual OS binary on it [04:01] hang on just a sec - need to switch machines [04:01] check you are using the correct partition number [04:12] Ok finally on the other machine [04:14] ponyrider: output of blkid https://paste.ubuntu.com/26077207/ [04:16] Well, this is interesting. I installed Flightgear in my new OS, Bunsenlabs. I rebooted and ran it. It was as jumpy as the early versions of Microsoft flight sim. So I rebooted again and got into Xubuntu and ran FG. It runs very smooth. [04:16] Also - pastebin from boot repair if it helps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25848170/ [04:17] blakehschwartz75: its not sda1, that is your usb stick [04:18] yeah. I have a newer SSD so it's nvme0n1p6 [04:18] I believe [04:19] it would have to be n1p6/7 [04:19] blakehschwartz75: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25848170/ >> " The Paste you are looking for does not currently exist." ... try again please . [04:20] well taht is the one you have to mount before all the other chroot commands [04:20] Ah shoot I wonder if it expired... [04:20] yeah, I did mount that one first [04:23] also - link to the issue I posted on the forums (with add'l screenshots) [04:23] why do we want that? [04:24] just thought it might be helpful [04:25] I mounted nvme0n1p6, which should be my old root partition. nvme0n1p7 would be my old /home directory [04:27] ok sounds good [04:30] btw you should also mount nvme0n1p1 as /mnt/boot and THEN chroot so you can fix your bootloader [04:30] blakehschwartz75: ^ [04:32] oh... [04:32] ok so mount that, then run run the chroot command [04:32] can someone help me with ssh passwordless login? [04:32] mount n1p6 as /mnt then n1p1 as /mnt/boot, then chroot [04:32] help [04:34] hmm, tried mounting n1p1, then chroot - same as before - same result [04:34] blakehschwartz75: i need more info [04:35] donnie: https://www.ssh.com/ssh/copy-id#sec-Copy-the-key-to-a-server [04:35] The guy that was helping me on the ubuntu budgie channel suggested that maybe something got screwed up by the unmounting/installation error. would that account for this? [04:35] ponyrider: what other info can I get you? [04:35] really appreciate the help [04:36] i was buy new laptop lenovo ideapad320-14AST than installing full ubuntu 17.10, after installing, problem first, the touchpad not working, second the wifi lost someminutes after connecting a wifi channel, could you maybe give me help about this case? [04:36] thanks ponyrider, I'll try that. it looks similar to what I've been doing, but will follow the commands. [04:37] so are you *sure* that n1p6 is the '/' directory? if you cd into the /mnt folder, do you see: bin, etc, home, mnt, root, proc ..etc [04:37] yeah, I do see all that stuff [04:38] help 11.36 [04:39] hermanguse: output of xinput? [04:41] blakehschwartz75: and you get output from: mount | grep nvme0n1p6 ? [04:42] ponyrider: the touchpad not working on my lenovo 320 ubuntu 17.10 [04:42] ponyrider: /dev/nvme0n1p6 on /mnt type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered) [04:42] ok so its mounted [04:44] yeah it looks that way [04:46] so you *should* be able to chroot after the 'mount --bind' commmands. what is the exact error? [04:46] do I need to re-run the bind commands? [04:47] yes [04:47] ok I'll try that [04:47] you were mounting the wrong partition before! [04:48] Virtual core pointer id=2 [master pointer (3)] [04:48] ⎜ ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer id=4 [slave pointer (2)] [04:48] ⎜ ↳ xwayland-pointer:13 id=6 [slave pointer (2)] [04:48] ⎜ ↳ xwayland-relative-pointer:13 id=7 [slave pointer (2)] [04:48] ⎣ Virtual core keyboard id=3 [master keyboard (2)] [04:48] ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard id=5 [slave keyboard (3)] [04:49] ok I tried re-running the bind commands, still getting the error: `sudo chroot /mnt chroot: failed to run command ‘/bin/bash’: No such file or directory` [04:49] clear [04:49] help [04:50] support to touchpad not working on lenovo ideapad 320 ubuntu 17.10 === Tabstar is now known as Tabmow [05:00] Hey ponyrider, still there? [05:00] blakehschwartz75: did you try chroot /mnt /usr/bin/bash ? [05:00] I think firefox is dying on my other machine [05:00] chroot /mnt /bin/sh even? [05:00] yeah I did try that before, I'll try again [05:02] Ok back again [05:02] sorry [05:04] yeah still getting the same output from `sudo chroot /mnt /mnt/bin/bash` [05:04] and sudo chroot /mnt /mnt/sh [05:04] no /usr/bin/bash [05:05] yeah... oddly I don't have a /usr/bin/bash... I have /usr/bin/bashbug [05:06] ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ sudo chroot /mnt /usr/bin/ba baobab base32 base64 basename bashbug [05:06] try: chroot /mnt /usr/bin/sh [05:06] same [05:07] if you can't chroot i dont think you can restore your system. so the best bet would be to backup your $HOME directory [05:07] remember the /bin/bash is inside of the chroot not from real_root [05:08] shoot... ok [05:08] yes we know thnkx [05:09] for some reason you have no bash or sh in your /bin. that is bad [05:09] /usr/bin is just a symlink so i am completely wrong on that count [05:10] ok. yeah I figured that was not normal [05:10] actually.. no its real. [05:11] anyway. goodluck w the chroot i think your screwed though sorry [05:12] blakehschwartz75: you have no /bin/bash? [05:12] blakehschwartz75: what if say, you copied /bin/bash to /mnt/bin/bash... ? [05:12] ducasse: he has no bin bash, he screwed up an ubuntu install and now cant chroot [05:12] ponyrider: if it helps " sysop@x1604:~$ ls -al /bin/bash >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1037528 May 16 2017 /bin/bash" . [05:13] I tried something like that before, based on an article like this: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/128046/chroot-failed-to-run-command-bin-bash-no-such-file-or-directory [05:13] might work? we just need a shell [05:14] what about /bin/dash? [05:15] my distro symlinks sh --> bash [05:15] cray. death to sh [05:16] ok so would I just do `cp /bin/bash /mnt/bin`? [05:17] or is there a better command [05:17] yes. you might need to chown and chmod too but you should try [05:18] help [05:18] ok thanks I'll try [05:18] quit [05:18] on ubuntu sh is a symlink to dash [05:19] ducasse: because you guys are crazy [05:19] ponyrider: don't you think i know that? :) [05:19] ok curious... I do have ls /mnt/bin/dash [05:20] what is dash btw? [05:20] ... or dare I ask [05:20] debian almquist shell [05:20] ok [05:21] so... maybe I should try sudo chroot /mnt /mnt/bin/dash? [05:22] no -- chroot /mnt /bin/dash [05:23] hmm same issue [05:23] weird [05:26] blakehschwartz75: sudo find /mnt/bin $ -name bash -o -name dash -o -name zsh -o -name ksh -o -name sh $ [05:27] if you have nothing cp /bin/bash or whatever to /mnt/bin [05:27] `/mnt/bin/dash /mnt/bin/sh /mnt/bin/bash` [05:27] wtf [05:28] hah!! yeah I feel like I have a knack for weird issues like this [05:28] creating them that is [05:28] type /mnt/bin/bash [05:28] this is BS! [05:28] totally!! [05:29] when I type that I get no output [05:29] ls -l /mnt/bin/bash [05:29] `-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1099016 Nov 19 05:17 /mnt/bin/bash` [05:30] an idea ...clear the env and call chroot directly too env -i HOME=/root TERM=$TERM /usr/sbin/chroot /mnt /bin/bash -l [05:30] sorry - I guess the backticks don't do anything here [05:30] force of habit [05:31] bcowan: seems like that's worth a shot... [05:33] env -i HOME=/root TERM=$TERM sudo /usr/sbin/chroot /mnt /bin/bash -l /usr/sbin/chroot: failed to run command ‘/bin/bash’: No such file or directory [05:33] now before I ran that I did this: echo $HOME /home/ubuntu [05:34] does that seem like the correct output? I'm running the trial version of 17.10 [05:35] yes [05:35] what happens if you just type $ /mnt/bin/bash [05:35] ok after running the command you pasted it's still showing the same thing for $HOME [05:36] ponyrider: no output [05:37] erm.. your now using the bash in the /mnt/bin/ directory. type exit... [05:37] so its there and it works. i dont understand this voodoo [05:38] ah wait sorry - I mean it just puts me back in the same bash prompt [05:40] oh wait I see what you mean... it returns the same prompt: ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ /mnt/bin/bash ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ [05:40] but my shell history list is only from the new session [05:41] so it sounds like it's working [05:42] I'm seeing a bunch of articles about creating a chroot jail... like this one: http://allanfeid.com/content/creating-chroot-jail-ssh-access [05:42] Think I tried something like this a week or two ago... [05:42] but, if bash is there I shouldn't need to do that i wouldn't think [05:49] i surely would have made a /mnt/blah dir and mounted there instead of just /mnt but that's just semantics...off to bed [05:52] ok thanks bcowan === thurstylark is now known as thursdaylark [06:05] ponyrider any other ideas? [06:05] blakehschwartz75: are you still having boot issues? [06:06] alksig yes [06:06] (good morning all, btw) [06:06] blakehschwartz75: could you write a small summary about them? [06:06] ah! good morning as well [06:11] alksig: sorry, just a minute [06:15] alkisg: So I tried to install 17.10 from a liveUSB on a system that already had 16.04 and Windows 10 installed (dual boot.) I now know that I was supposed to upgrade through the built-in solftware manager, but I didn't have the upgrade option available there [06:16] blakehschwartz75: and 17.10 never managed to boot? [06:16] Anyway, during installation of 17.10 there was an error, and my partitions seem to have been unmounted. I was able to use windows but after trying boot-repair, I'm no longer able to [06:17] yeah so I was left in a state where 17.10 doesn't work (I can use the trial version), and when I try to boot into the old 16.04 installation it drops me into initramfs [06:18] blakehschwartz75: are you booted with the live cd now? [06:18] In gparted and in the command line I can see that the old partitions are still there [06:18] yes [06:18] OK, do you mind if I see that via vnc, so that it's a lot faster than irc? [06:18] (screen sharing) [06:18] I've been trying to do the grub2 repair steps [06:18] sure! [06:18] how do I set that up [06:18] OK, run these: [06:19] sudo add-apt-repository universe; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr [06:20] also, one thing to mention: I've been trying to re-mount the system with help from some others. We've gotten to the step where you run sudo chroot /mnt, and getting an error: failed to run command ‘/bin/bash’: No such file or directory [06:21] Yeah that's what I saw in the logs above, and decided it would be better to vnc rather than irc [06:21] Sounds like a complex situation :) [06:21] ah cool yeah I totally agree [06:24] blakehschwartz75: erm... can't open a terminal? [06:24] oh... [06:24] Try this: [06:24] yeah i can see it's throwing some errors, I can use the terminal though... [06:24] go to where you ran x11vnc, [06:24] press ctrl+z, [06:24] then type fg [06:25] And I believe I'll be able to use that terminal instead [06:25] hmm no it stopped [06:25] oh shoot sorry did ctrl+c [06:25] Let's try again: x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr & [06:25] guess i need to restart [06:26] You didn't put the & [06:26] Type Ctrl+Z and bg [06:26] oh yeah [06:27] Reason: get_pty: not enough ptys [06:27] Nice :D [06:27] what does that mean?? [06:27] Possibly that your live cd session is broken and you need to reboot [06:32] blakehschwartz75: nah, reboot into the live cd again, it's broken now because of failed chroot attempts [06:32] But your installation hasn't finished, so you can't chroot into that one. E.g. no /etc at all. [06:32] ah shoot. That's kind of a pain - I have to set up wifi and everything again [06:33] Without a terminal, not much to do :) [06:33] ok it'll take a minute to restart and get back online [06:33] np [06:33] thanks! [06:41] alkisg: back again [06:41] wb [06:41] ty [06:42] (08:19:11 πμ) alkisg: sudo add-apt-repository universe; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr [06:44] blakehschwartz75: your /home is safe, 28G, while your / is broken, it doesn't have even /etc [06:44] So, if you reinstall while keeping /home, it'll be fine [06:44] You can't chroot, but you can reinstall without issues [06:44] ah ok [06:45] I was trying to mount n1p6 on /mnt before === Jochen_wvdT is now known as Schlawiner [06:48] OK i formatted / and put names so that you separate them easily [06:48] huh... ok sweet thanks! [06:48] You're welcome [06:48] so you think I should re-install 17.10? [06:49] would this allow me to get back into my 16.04 installation? [06:50] Also - just curious. could this fix my Windows boot problem as well? [06:50] blakehschwartz75: you need to install any ubuntu version now. Both 16.04 and 17.10 are lost due to formats/reinstallations [06:51] Your windows installation seems intact [06:52] Just proceed with the 17.10 installation as it is now, it should be fine [06:53] ok so I need to start over on the installation - will it pick up my existing partitions now on the installation? [06:53] Yes, it should give you a menu to boot windows [06:53] Guess I will try booting into windows as well [06:53] ok sweet! [06:53] Let me help you pass the partitioning step... [06:57] blakehschwartz75: ok, proceed on your own, ping me if you need anything [06:57] ok thanks a ton!!!!!!!!!!!!! [06:57] np [06:57] This was the stuff I was missing [06:57] so, windows was being managed by the grub loader - will that be the same? [06:59] Yes [07:04] ok going to sign off to complete installation. Thanks again!! [07:06] You're welcome [07:12] Hello, I have a problem were I have 2 different bell/alert sounds playing. Can't figure out where it's doubled. [07:13] playing at the same time when "error" occurs [07:15] alkisg: still there? [07:15] Yup [07:16] Any ideas guys? [07:17] ok so it the reinstallation, 17.10 is working fine. One thing that's odd though - in Nautilus the folders for my user don't show up unless I go into Other Locations - > select the drive/partition, and then I have a list of users [07:18] my files are under my user, but wondering if there's a way to move that so it shows up by default [07:19] also, my windows machine is still inaccessible - has the same windows boot manager message, saying something is messed up and I need to re-install [07:19] let me know if you want to vnc in there again [07:20]