[00:19] <anastasiamac> wallyworld: axw: thumper: babbageclunk: veebers: forgot to ask the most important question - can u recommend a red from Oz/NZ to take with me?
[00:19] <wallyworld> PepperJack :-)
[00:20] <anastasiamac> any specific year? also what is it -chiraz?
[00:20] <babbageclunk> I bow to wallyworld's superior wine knowledge
[00:21] <wallyworld> shiraz, not sure of year
[00:21] <wallyworld> thumper would recommend a Pionot
[00:22] <thumper> PepperJack is overrated
[00:23] <thumper> any shiraz from AU is pretty good by international standards
[00:23] <wallyworld> i like it :-)
[00:24] <thumper> Pinot Noir from central otago
[00:25] <wallyworld> that would great also
[00:25] <wallyworld> or both :-)
[00:30] <veebers> anastasiamac: how much check-in do you have, take a case or two ^_^
[00:30] <hml> as long as the bottles don’t break!  :-)
[00:34] <babbageclunk> axw: Can you take a look at https://github.com/juju/1.25-upgrade/pull/55 please?
[00:35] <anastasiamac> i can only take about 4 bottles - 2 reserved for champagne, 1 for a rose I love from South AUstralia (need something for me too), so only 1 bottle for red :D
[00:35] <babbageclunk> Worked out my bug - it was that old chestnut closing-over-a-variable-in-a-loop.
[00:37] <babbageclunk> I'll talk to xav about how to get lxc and lxd working on trusty after lunch. (I've had it before so I think it might be a recent change?)
[00:38] <veebers> I thought wine in Aus came in bags anyway? ;-)
[00:40] <anastasiamac> veebers: OMG, have u been here last time in Dark ages? U should visit more often :D
[00:40] <veebers> anastasiamac: Hah ^_^
[00:41] <veebers> The ol' goon bag on the clothes line is a national sport, right?
[01:13] <axw> babbageclunk: LGTM
[01:13] <axw> babbageclunk: sorry, I should have done that a long time ago
[01:20] <axw> wallyworld: +3,228 −0     <- please split it up, my brain cannot handle
[01:21] <wallyworld> axw: i'll try - hard to split cleanup as it won't compile if split
[01:22] <axw> wallyworld: Go packages are a DAG, so just go depth first
[01:37] <wallyworld> axw: maybe that's better?
[01:37] <axw> thanks, looking
[03:22] <wallyworld> axw_: i was thinking that the operator would find it useful to know about unit status, especially in conjunction with being able to see if unit X was still active/not blocked and whether to choose another to be leader
[03:22] <wallyworld> the set status only does the application status
[03:23] <wallyworld> but get status gives the overall view
[03:23] <axw_> wallyworld: how are we going to know whether a unt is active/blocked?
[03:24] <axw_> (if there's none of our code running on it...)
[03:24] <wallyworld> juju would monitor the pods - if they stop responding then it could determine there's an issue
[03:24] <wallyworld> but maybe we don't need that for now
[03:24] <axw_> wallyworld: yeah I'm just thinking over that again. monitor how? responding to what?
[03:24] <axw_> health is always going to be application specific
[03:25] <wallyworld> juju needs to monitor such things if it is going to do the scaling
[03:25] <wallyworld> but i guess that's at a different level
[03:25] <axw_> wallyworld: juju needs to react to unit status changes, but it can delegate the health checking to the operator
[03:27] <wallyworld> the operator can tell at a workload level what's healthy or not
[03:27] <axw_> wallyworld: perhaps just leave it out for now, and add it back in once we come to a decision?
[03:27] <wallyworld> can do
[04:00] <wallyworld> axw_: whenever, here's the hook tools one https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/8163
[07:15] <wallyworld> axw_: i've pushed changes for when you are free
[07:15] <axw_> looking
[07:35] <wallyworld> axw_: ta for review, will fix. am close to having something to try wrt running hooks, but running out of steam
[07:36] <axw_> wallyworld: no worries