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lubot<VikingRedwolf> Hola, Eduardo01:22
lubot<Eduardo B N> Hola01:34
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lubot<tsimonq2> @Leandro Ramos, Welcome! Glad to have you here :)01:53
lubot<Leandro Ramos> 👍01:54
lubot<VikingRedwolf> @Leandro Ramos, o/01:54
tsimonq2wxl: Answer this guy pretty please: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2017-November/011768.html02:00
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lubot<VikingRedwolf> @lubuntu_bot, O.o10:11
cyphermoxwxl: tsimonq2: so; for zram, I think the solution will be "involved". Not overly complex, but I think it needs a small rework of seeds15:18
wxldo tell cyphermox15:19
cyphermoxso, zram is compressed, not encrypted. It would be downright wrong to ignore zram devices when checking that swap is safe when dealing with encrypted disks15:19
cyphermoxone option is to allow users to decide whether it's fine, but that seems like pointing them in a direction that might not be in their best interest15:20
cyphermoxthe other option would be to install zram later, once we know the system is not going to be installed with crypto15:20
wxlso existing behavior for encrypted installs is to be expected15:22
cyphermoxso, to get that, I'd move zram-config from live-share to ship-live-share so it exists on the CD; and add some code in ubiquity to that if you install without crypto, for lubuntu you add zram15:22
cyphermoxwhat is the existing behavior for encrypted installs?15:23
wxlafaik that same error15:23
cyphermoxright15:23
cyphermoxyou wouldn't have the error if the live image didn't have zram-config15:23
cyphermoxin fact, I think having zram-config in live potentially slows things down -- if you're in the live session, you're already all in ram and not swapping to disk, so having zram only adds the compression overhead15:24
wxlthat sounds reasonable15:24
cyphermox(that is my personal opinion, I haven't checked, but it sounds logical)15:24
cyphermoxthe open question is how to say "add zram after partitioning if we know we're not using lvm with crypto, and if we're lubuntu"15:25
cyphermoxand more than that, given that you could install with different installers ;)15:26
wxloh boy15:26
cyphermoxit probably ought to be done somewhat like for language packs15:26
cyphermoxI'll capture that on the bug; but I don't know off-hand if I have time to do the implementation of this15:27
wxlright15:28
wxlso for now we should just include release notes about dealing with swapoff15:28
wxlorrrr maybe just not use zram and document it as an option15:28
cyphermoxwell, someone wishing to get to know ubiquity could do it too15:28
wxlthat too for sure15:28
cyphermoxwxl: bug updated15:40
wxlthx cyphermox !15:40
cyphermoxat this point this definitely qualifies as Triaged15:41
wxlXD15:41
wxl@tsimonq2: latest iso boots into uefi ok17:22
wxl(with vbox)17:22
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl, Cool, now try 17.10 and comparr17:23
wxli guess i need to install offline, too17:27
lubot<tsimonq2> Right17:27
wxlanyways one interesting thing is that the display is all foobared until i flip virtual terminals around17:27
wxli assume you have no such problem with kvm?17:28
lubot<tsimonq2> I dunno, I'm on mobile 😉17:28
wxlwell i mean you just did htis right? :)17:28
lubot<tsimonq2> Like a week ago :P17:29
lubot<tsimonq2> Idfr ;)17:29
wxl:/17:29
wxlalright well off to work17:29
lubot<tsimonq2> Baii17:30
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Guest64515hello!18:02
Guest64515anybody home? :)18:02
lubot<tsimonq2> Hi :)18:02
Guest64515do you know about the improvements on Lubuntu 17.10 ?18:04
lubot<tsimonq2> Irt what exactly?18:05
Guest64515about the package management?18:08
Guest64515no update on Synaptic?18:08
wxlthey come when they come18:08
Guest64515(i don't like very much this front-end)18:08
Guest64515do you like ?18:09
wxlsynaptic? nope. i use apt.18:09
Guest64515but do can do with apt what people do with synaptic ?18:09
Guest64515but do you can do with apt what people do with synaptic ?18:09
wxlsynaptic is just a front end. you can do everything it does on the command line18:10
Guest64515even adding new repositories?18:10
wxlyou can use apt-add-repository or just edit /etc/apt/sources.list18:10
Guest64515ohh yeh ,this file has all the repositories!18:11
Guest64515i will research a little bit more about apt!18:11
Guest64515do you contribute for lubuntu?18:11
wxlyep18:11
wxlbtw #lubuntu is usually the best place for the support for future reference18:12
Guest64515i like very much also! i installed it some days ago and it's very faster!18:12
Guest64515i have some knowledge about mysql and Postgresql,18:13
Guest64515do you think that it's possible to contribute for Lubuntu on this subjects?18:13
wxli can't think of any off hand, no18:14
wxlbut there's plenty of projects that use sql backends18:14
wxlwhat i would start doing is searching through bug reports and find things you can fix, help troubleshoot, etc.18:15
Guest64515yes, bug reports could be a nice starting!18:15
Guest64515do you know where the list of bug reports?18:16
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lubot<VikingRedwolf> @StAmoako, o/18:19
wxllaunchpad, Guest6451518:19
lubot<StAmoako> @VikingRedwolf, Thanks @VikingRedwolf18:20
Guest64515ohh my god a hugh list, thanks wxl!18:21
wxl@tsimonq2: can you do me a weird favor and see if 32 bit boots in uefi mode?18:26
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl, Sure, later18:48
lubot<VikingRedwolf> Ouch... I broke Calamares 😞18:52
lubotGustavo was added by: Gustavo18:54
wxlhey @Gustavo!18:54
lubot<Gustavo> Hi everybody!18:55
lubot<VikingRedwolf> @Gustavo, o/18:55
lubot<tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf, What'd you do?19:07
lubot<VikingRedwolf> An object has wrong dimensions and it makes the window to crash.19:08
lubot<VikingRedwolf> Fixing...19:08
lubot<tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf, O.O19:08
lubotFile a bug!19:08
lubot<VikingRedwolf> What makes me think it's not suitable for HiDPI displays.19:09
lubot<tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf, File a bug ;)19:20
lubot<VikingRedwolf> I might19:21
wxl@tsimonq2: FIX DEVEL NOTIFICATIONS LIST21:30
tannedinif anyone is avail, got an odd problem that a day's worth of googling isn't leading to anything fruitful22:50
tsimonq2tannedin: try #lubuntu or #ubuntu :)22:51
tannedinand thats what I get for frustration and copying and pasting a channel.  Thanks22:51
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lubot<VikingRedwolf> @Human, 😢23:42

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