 Hola, Eduardo
 @Leandro Ramos, Welcome! Glad to have you here :)
 @Leandro Ramos, o/
[02:00] <tsimonq2> wxl: Answer this guy pretty please: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2017-November/011768.html
 @lubuntu_bot, O.o
[15:18] <cyphermox> wxl: tsimonq2: so; for zram, I think the solution will be "involved". Not overly complex, but I think it needs a small rework of seeds
[15:19] <wxl> do tell cyphermox
[15:19] <cyphermox> so, zram is compressed, not encrypted. It would be downright wrong to ignore zram devices when checking that swap is safe when dealing with encrypted disks
[15:20] <cyphermox> one option is to allow users to decide whether it's fine, but that seems like pointing them in a direction that might not be in their best interest
[15:20] <cyphermox> the other option would be to install zram later, once we know the system is not going to be installed with crypto
[15:22] <wxl> so existing behavior for encrypted installs is to be expected
[15:22] <cyphermox> so, to get that, I'd move zram-config from live-share to ship-live-share so it exists on the CD; and add some code in ubiquity to that if you install without crypto, for lubuntu you add zram
[15:23] <cyphermox> what is the existing behavior for encrypted installs?
[15:23] <wxl> afaik that same error
[15:23] <cyphermox> right
[15:23] <cyphermox> you wouldn't have the error if the live image didn't have zram-config
[15:24] <cyphermox> in fact, I think having zram-config in live potentially slows things down -- if you're in the live session, you're already all in ram and not swapping to disk, so having zram only adds the compression overhead
[15:24] <wxl> that sounds reasonable
[15:24] <cyphermox> (that is my personal opinion, I haven't checked, but it sounds logical)
[15:25] <cyphermox> the open question is how to say "add zram after partitioning if we know we're not using lvm with crypto, and if we're lubuntu"
[15:26] <cyphermox> and more than that, given that you could install with different installers ;)
[15:26] <wxl> oh boy
[15:26] <cyphermox> it probably ought to be done somewhat like for language packs
[15:27] <cyphermox> I'll capture that on the bug; but I don't know off-hand if I have time to do the implementation of this
[15:28] <wxl> right
[15:28] <wxl> so for now we should just include release notes about dealing with swapoff
[15:28] <wxl> orrrr maybe just not use zram and document it as an option
[15:28] <cyphermox> well, someone wishing to get to know ubiquity could do it too
[15:28] <wxl> that too for sure
[15:40] <cyphermox> wxl: bug updated
[15:40] <wxl> thx cyphermox !
[15:41] <cyphermox> at this point this definitely qualifies as Triaged
[15:41] <wxl> XD
[17:22] <wxl> @tsimonq2: latest iso boots into uefi ok
[17:22] <wxl> (with vbox)
 @wxl, Cool, now try 17.10 and comparr
[17:27] <wxl> i guess i need to install offline, too
 Right
[17:27] <wxl> anyways one interesting thing is that the display is all foobared until i flip virtual terminals around
[17:28] <wxl> i assume you have no such problem with kvm?
 I dunno, I'm on mobile 😉
[17:28] <wxl> well i mean you just did htis right? :)
 Like a week ago :P
 Idfr ;)
[17:29] <wxl> :/
[17:29] <wxl> alright well off to work
 Baii
[18:02] <Guest64515> hello!
[18:02] <Guest64515> anybody home? :)
 Hi :)
[18:04] <Guest64515> do you know about the improvements on Lubuntu 17.10 ?
 Irt what exactly?
[18:08] <Guest64515> about the package management?
[18:08] <Guest64515> no update on Synaptic?
[18:08] <wxl> they come when they come
[18:08] <Guest64515> (i don't like very much this front-end)
[18:09] <Guest64515> do you like ?
[18:09] <wxl> synaptic? nope. i use apt.
[18:09] <Guest64515> but do can do with apt what people do with synaptic ?
[18:09] <Guest64515> but do you can do with apt what people do with synaptic ?
[18:10] <wxl> synaptic is just a front end. you can do everything it does on the command line
[18:10] <Guest64515> even adding new repositories?
[18:10] <wxl> you can use apt-add-repository or just edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:11] <Guest64515> ohh yeh ,this file has all the repositories!
[18:11] <Guest64515> i will research a little bit more about apt!
[18:11] <Guest64515> do you contribute for lubuntu?
[18:11] <wxl> yep
[18:12] <wxl> btw #lubuntu is usually the best place for the support for future reference
[18:12] <Guest64515> i like very much also! i installed it some days ago and it's very faster!
[18:13] <Guest64515> i have some knowledge about mysql and Postgresql,
[18:13] <Guest64515> do you think that it's possible to contribute for Lubuntu on this subjects?
[18:14] <wxl> i can't think of any off hand, no
[18:14] <wxl> but there's plenty of projects that use sql backends
[18:15] <wxl> what i would start doing is searching through bug reports and find things you can fix, help troubleshoot, etc.
[18:15] <Guest64515> yes, bug reports could be a nice starting!
[18:16] <Guest64515> do you know where the list of bug reports?
 @StAmoako, o/
[18:19] <wxl> launchpad, Guest64515
 @VikingRedwolf, Thanks @VikingRedwolf
[18:21] <Guest64515> ohh my god a hugh list, thanks wxl!
[18:26] <wxl> @tsimonq2: can you do me a weird favor and see if 32 bit boots in uefi mode?
 @wxl, Sure, later
 Ouch... I broke Calamares 😞
[18:54] <wxl> hey @Gustavo!
 Hi everybody!
 @Gustavo, o/
 @VikingRedwolf, What'd you do?
 An object has wrong dimensions and it makes the window to crash.
 Fixing...
 @VikingRedwolf, O.O
 What makes me think it's not suitable for HiDPI displays.
 @VikingRedwolf, File a bug ;)
 I might
[21:30] <wxl> @tsimonq2: FIX DEVEL NOTIFICATIONS LIST
[22:50] <tannedin> if anyone is avail, got an odd problem that a day's worth of googling isn't leading to anything fruitful
[22:51] <tsimonq2> tannedin: try #lubuntu or #ubuntu :)
[22:51] <tannedin> and thats what I get for frustration and copying and pasting a channel.  Thanks
 @Human, 😢