[00:24] I strongly recommend this boat loader and everything will be a lot easier [00:25] (Photo, 698x753) https://irc.ubports.com/OYMJOKXy/file_2518.jpg [00:31] wow, from my tests this boat loader really drags the system down [00:45] Just keep trying, Peter. You can't just quit. [00:47] If you accidentally cut it in half, you can simply use flex tape to put it back together [02:51] joeyshome was added by: joeyshome [03:03] Hello @joey and welcome! I'm part of the UBports welcoming team. … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :) [03:27] @Crash_Burn, wrong handle [03:27] Joey's handle is @joeyshome === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [05:59] What was up with that 3 hour silence above ? Ha. Question before I sleep: Is it possible to make a private web app with this web app creator app or is it always published to Openstore? Thanks [06:22] You can save the click file, install the click file via open store or publish it. [06:22] would be even better if you could open and edit previously stored click files too [07:08] Hi. I want to try to create a webapp, but I'm not ready yet to flash my phone. Is there any environment to test webapps for UT? Maybe, just UT Browser in Unity8 is enough? … I need to check how content-origin policy work etc. [07:08] Hi i try to use tetering hotspot with my n5 but not working. It's a bug or doesn't work only for me? [07:09] @Gleb Lee 🇸🇨, Using the SDK on 16.04 will be enough to test webapps. Doesn't need to be unity8 just somewhere you can run oxide 😊 [07:10] @DanChapman oh, thanks! I thought SDK no longer work... === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [07:11] works for me on 16.04. It's just not available on the latest releases [07:12] Ah, OK. Will try) [07:12] @Gleb Lee 🇸🇨, Or you find fellow users who want to help testing ;) - but sorry we dont have a working emulator [07:15] The simplest way to test a webapp is to do `webapp-container --app-id=webapp.test https://webapp.url` [07:15] Once you've installed the sdk that is. THen you can fiddle about with the config files and what not [07:16] Dan, thanks! Could I run local html bundle this way? [07:18] yes you can pass it a local html file url [07:22] OK, thanks. Brian Douglass shared this as example previously: https://github.com/bhdouglass/terrartisan/blob/master/terrartisan.desktop#L3 === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [07:24] And the last question. Is there any CSS library that recreates UT style guides (buttons, colours, etc)? If no, I'll try this. [07:27] Errrm there is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-html5-theme but its old and no longer matches the current suru style. [07:28] So i wouldn't recommend using it. You would probably get better results rolling your own [07:28] Or bringing that one up to date 😉 [07:33] At least this is good place for start. Thanks, Dan! [07:36] 👍 [07:37] Hi, yes or no question (if 'no' I'll dig deeper into the documentation): Can I "migrate" my phone from (Canonical's) UbuntuTouch to UBports simply by switching channels like so: … sudo system-image-cli —switch 15.04/stable … ? [07:42] @Andreas, Pretty sure you can't, since the Canonical image has now way of knowing about the UBports servers [07:43] Ok, thanks. I'll read some more in how-to-install-ubports on the web site. Thought there ws a shortcut ;) === ecloud_ is now known as ecloud [08:29] thomorl was added by: thomorl [08:29] (Sticker, 507x512) https://irc.ubports.com/yrXDJeyx/file_2519 [09:02] @wayneoutthere, Yes [09:03] @YougoChats, Oh. thanks [09:03] @YougoChats, It's in the to do list 😬 [09:22] @mixmoto, Not every provider allows it [09:25] @Andreas, Sadly not. You do need to install fresh [09:25] this is just so wrong http://blog.streamr.com/2017/11/streamr-jolla-zipper-blockchain-phone/ [09:25] even now jolla is broken ... there is really just ubports to the rescue [09:26] @, Hello Deleted Person and welcome! I'm part of the UBports welcoming team. … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :) [09:30] Does anyone know the status of the new camera and scree......n.... ...................................................??...............?..????.??....%?...?........... ...?....................................?..........................................................................%%..?...h?......?....?.. [09:39] @Greg, Guessing this is FP2? [09:41] @Flohack with Telegram 2.5.1 I can't hear voice messages except the ones downloaded from previous versions [09:41] (Voice, 0s)https://irc.ubports.com/0ApiX3hT/file_2520 [09:42] Interesting [09:42] It worked in 2.5.0?? [09:42] @cibersheep, It works 😆 [09:43] hi folks... in the latest community update you talk about images for OP3 and HTC10, though they are not (yet?) usable. Unfortunately my old phone (blackberry z30) is slowly dieing and I'm afraid it will be dead before a new device for ubports comes out. I'm not that much attracted to the current supported devices... Is there any information on if one of the two mentioned devices will become supported? The HTC 10 is quite nice I think [09:44] @Christof, I think both have good chances to get supported ;) - But dont ask me when... [09:44] @Flohack, Yes. And I can hear audios downloaded in 2.5.0 [09:44] But not in 2.5.1 [09:44] @garrogarri, What version of Telegram are you using? [09:45] I'm on desktop [09:46] @garrogarri, Thats not a test then ^^ [09:46] (Photo, 333x294) https://irc.ubports.com/adC5sOr1/file_2522.jpg [09:46] @Flohack, Many thanks! Looking forward to new devices and hopefully my blackberry makes it to that day😊 thanks to the whole team and keep up the good work! [09:47] @cibersheep, When you press play, stays in blue a s no 'pause' icon and no sound [09:47] @garrogarri, XD we are testing the ububtu phone client hehehe [09:48] @cibersheep, I thought it was a transmission test 😆 [09:49] @garrogarri, 😄😅 [09:51] Apologies for that odd message my phone hasn't been getting taps registered on part of the screen then started doing phantom taps just then, yes FP2 [10:06] @cibersheep, Let me test [10:07] It doesn't work [10:08] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/6k6WkJc4/file_2523 [10:10] @Greg, New screen is supported in devel channel but sadly no support for the new camera. I am waiting too but 16.04 is more urgent 😃 [10:13] But there are eventual plans to support the new cameras both front and back? Assume it would be easier to support them with the drivers from xenual anyway right [10:19] @Greg, Yikes, sounds like a dying digtizer😔 [10:20] That'll be fixed by a new screen module though right? Not that much of an issue [10:22] fairphone support is very good. If it died on its own (no damage from dropping etc) within warranty, they will send you a new screen (no idea which hardware version) or have your phone picked up, repaired/replaced and sent back. [10:22] do flash fairphone OS back on it to avoid funny questions === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [10:24] Got it second hand sadly, seller gave me a partial refund to cover it though [10:27] What do youean by hardware version, the screen or phone itself [10:31] I run Telegram 2.5.1.0 and after 3 seconds the icons of all supergroups turn into violet and it is impossible to enter them. [10:32] @Cesar_Herrera, Could you please send an screenshot ? [10:33] (Photo, 540x960) https://irc.ubports.com/panzw9xq/file_2525.jpg [10:35] @Cesar_Herrera, Also very interesting ^^ [10:35] Plz send me logfile if possible [10:36] @Flohack, Where send I it, please? [10:37] @Cesar_Herrera, PM it here [10:37] I mean in Telegram ^^ [10:41] @Greg, Mine was sexond handed too, but luckily I had the seller's number. I called him and he was fine with sending me his original purchase receipt. Its worth a try [10:43] @Greg, Both really. They decided to replace my entire phone, but I got one with all old hardware. Not bad, but I secretly hoped they would send me a phone with the new camera module 😏 [10:44] It depends on what they have on the shelf. I think if they decide to only replace one component, the chance of getting new hardware version is higher [10:45] @Flohack, Sorry I don't remember where is it. [11:21] what if i make a new boot system? [11:21] is that bad? [11:21] Like, it can be loaded from the android boot loader and put i [11:22] can then make it replace it [11:22] I just wondering... random thought [11:23] I think a new boot system that can multi-boot and manage partitions.. [11:23] would be good [11:24] I feel like doing something easy like that right now [11:35] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/SIFqlpaN/file_2526.log [11:37] Hmm maybe it fucked up the database upgrade [11:37] you hav 2.5.0 before? [11:38] @Flohack, Yes [11:46] @Flohack, Perhaps before I did the command pkon in a bad way [11:47] @Cesar_Herrera, It just looks as if your telegram cannot access the channels. are you familiar with sqlite? [11:47] Not very much. But say [11:49] Hmm can you adb into the phone [11:50] @Flohack, No. [11:51] Is it possible to get newer web browser app to UT? Current browser is based in chromium 55 and I can't access to my web bank with it.. My Bank refuses to support current version. 😞 [11:51] I have tried to change user agent strings but it doesn't help. [11:51] And how did I it [11:52] @samitormanen, Is in the works. Unfortunately 57 broke all BQ devices... [11:53] In the afternoon I may do tethering. [11:53] Ok. Thanks @Flohack [11:54] @Cesar_Herrera, You need usb cable only ^^ and linux with adb installed [11:54] Yes I have it installed as Apitz [11:54] I use ssh not adb [12:05] @Cesar_Herrera, Ok then plz ssh ionto your device, change to .cache/com.ubuntu.telegram... dir, and then into your profile directory with your phone number [12:06] there you will find 2 .db files [12:06] SORRY .config! [12:06] @Flohack, Weit until this afternool. Sorry [12:09] @Flohack, I see 2 db [12:11] @Flohack, I'm also there in terminal. [12:14] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/o6gfv4vA/file_2527 [12:17] no one have any opinions on another boot mechanism? [12:19] like, something that android bootloader can load or that can be flashed directly, and that handles multi-boot and repartitioning of your drive... Like it would reside in recovery partition, be called from boot partition so that it loads and not the kernel, it would do everything TWRP does, everything the current ubuntu recovery does, handle multiboot, and we could use system partition as / and userdata parition as /home [12:20] then we could install the rootfs to a native partition, which could be resized to house multiple rootfs's via the boot system which can also load images when resizing to set up dual-boot [12:20] it wouldn't require flashing android bootloader [12:21] but it would, if you want multi-boot, repartition the device [12:28] @Cesar_Herrera, Ok you need sqlite3 userdata.db [12:28] type it ^^ [12:31] sry its database.db ^^ I am not rly well organized today [12:31] @Gleb Lee 🇸🇨, Sounds like you want an html5 Cordova app, not a webapp. [12:33] @Cesar_Herrera, Ok just ping me when you are ready [12:36] I will rollback to the older telegram version because of the audio messages. I am receiving a few today lol [12:39] Lol ok [12:44] @Flohack I'm in the directory, and? [12:45] sqlite3 database.db [12:45] then enter: select * from chats where accessHash > 0; [12:46] do you get any output? [12:47] Sqlite3 and? [12:49] @Flohack, Be patient please. [12:50] just type it with parameter database.db [12:50] then it opens the db immediately [12:54] @Flohack, It lets a lot of things separated by | [12:55] @Flohack, sqlite> select * from chats where accessHash > 0; … 1190625957|0|0||UBports News Channel||15113497639|1|73394|-7761333253501751230|1|804725225201 … 1059487747|0|0||UBports Supergroup [ENGLISH]|0|1737397639|1|28741|-1896395621444036648|429|4|430524416 … sqlite> [12:58] @cibersheep, cool. this is interesting.... i believe today I will do for private CRM access and see how that flows. thanks! [12:58] @Cesar_Herrera, Ok so thats not the problem [12:58] You got only those 2 supergroups? [12:58] channels? [12:59] @Flohack, If I close the app and delete de databases it is oK? [12:59] @Greg, How do I read this into a mic for a 'quotable moment' on the News Desk? ;) [12:59] I thint they are more [13:00] @Cesar_Herrera, yes better even is you go to the menu, select settings on the bottom and "Log Out", then close and restart app [13:00] @wayneoutthere, google translate can help you figuring this out [13:00] @Flohack, OK [13:02] @peternerlich, finally! a reason to use google! [13:03] @Xorpad i would totally answer your questions above about boot loaders but.. the only thing I know about is boat loaders... [13:03] lol [13:03] @wayneoutthere, try japanese voice also [13:08] that is weird. it speaks a majority of the dots out loud, but only if you translate it to german and let it voice it on the translated end insteead of from the input: [13:08] https://translate.google.com/#ja/de/Does%20anyone%20know%20the%20status%20of%20the%20new%20camera%20and%20scree......n....%20%20%20...................................................%3F%3F...............%3F..%3F%3F%3F%3F.%3F%3F....%25%3F...%3F...........%20...%3F....................................%3F..........................................................................%25%25..%3F...h%3F......%3F....%3F.. [13:08] anyway, this should really belong it ot... [13:12] time to bring on the Lab! [13:12] Happy Patreon day, everyone! [13:12] @UniversalSuperBox, what's patreon day? a call out to anyone who isn't already subscribed? [13:19] @Flohack, Finally I did what you said, but as it waited a lot I unistall, erased everything and reinstalled. Finally OK. [13:20] Ok then its good. Maybe we need to advise that people can remove their .cache folder ;) [13:26] @Greg, Not sure what you mean here, but drivers come from Android, not Ubuntu. They tend to be binary blobs tied to the specific kernel versions shipped by the OEMs. [13:27] @Flohack, Limit that advice to the app-specific directory would be best. Removing entire .cache will delete all libertine containers that might be defined by users. [13:28] @wayneoutthere, Once you finish with our app, it lets you open with OpenStore (and that install it in the device) [13:29] @dohbee, 😆 I would NEVER advise to delete the WHOLE cache. That said, .cache is a growing pile of smth... most apps do not clean up there properly. Eventually your space will be full (after years of usage) [13:29] ahh @Flohack one question how to get the path to data , cache in qml [13:30] many years perhaps, or by creating multiple libertine containers. or maybe by installing some bad app which stores very large data in .cache [13:30] @delijati, Good question, no idea ^^ [13:31] @delijati, https://doc-snapshots.qt.io/qtifw-master/scripting-qdesktopservices.html [13:32] @delijati, there is no file api in qml. You have to use a c++ plugin or from python if your using pyotherside [13:32] storageLocation(DesktopServices.CacheLocation) [13:33] @DanChapman, You can use JS to read file:/// URLs [13:33] I think you should use QStandardPaths over QDesktopService nowadays http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qstandardpaths.html [13:34] @dohbee, But that's just a hack as you have to use a XmlHttpRequest to get at the data. But you can't test that a file exists so you would be doing it blind [13:35] @DanChapman, In QML it is still part of Qt Labs Platform, not part of the main API [13:35] @DanChapman, You need to handle error conditions anyway, such as if it exists and is empty and your parsing then breaks [13:35] @Flohack, work also closing and reopen app(more than one time) [13:37] (Sticker, 512x433) https://irc.ubports.com/RxuCUrIU/file_2528 [13:37] main issue is there's no way to write to a local file [13:37] @dohbee, Oh! nice. I didn't know that was in the labs modules 😊 [13:38] @cibersheep, quite cool. let me slowly go through this process and see what happens [13:39] but you can use localstorage or u1db or something instead, for structured storage. but that's of course not good for storing binary data like audio/video [13:39] @DanChapman, Since 5.8. Won't work on 5.7 or 5.5 [13:39] ack [13:46] @wayneoutthere, It's the day that Patreon takes/distributes money [14:02] oh cool. so my credit card gets hit for the team today! :) [14:22] @UniversalSuperBox, As @shinyhairsmylifeambition stated, you receive a bigger portion of the donations with librepay... but is this the prefered way? Or you suggest to use patreon (or another) [14:33] @malditobastardo @cibersheep New telegram beta build, plz test audio... [14:49] @Flohack, Works!! [14:49] 😸😸 [14:49] Thanks boss! [15:00] @malditobastardo, you are welcome. Also now all pictures are being loaded again hopefully [15:01] whats still missing is profile pictures of supergroups and channels [15:01] I am stuck with this ^^ [15:04] @Flohack, And the number of people in supergroups. [15:04] @Cesar_Herrera, yeah but this is for me really an option 😆 [15:11] Can someone please post on UBport News Channel about the last COmmunity update? Thanks :) [15:11] @cibersheep, so that is amazing! i now have a full and app-like access to our company's CRM that i built a while back. It works really well and i was shocked that it was able to create that app so quickly - and even with my skill level. Amazing. Great work! [15:11]