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pauljwHi everyone01:48
lotuspsychjegood morning to all05:37
lotuspsychje!landscape05:45
ubot5Landscape makes the management and monitoring of Ubuntu systems simple and effective by combining world-class support with easy to use online management tools. https://landscape.canonical.com/05:45
lotuspsychjedax: a user reports tor from ubuntu repos should not be used, what you think of that?06:02
lotuspsychjedax: should we keep using !tor ?06:03
daxuh, !tor covers this...06:07
dax!tor06:07
ubot5Tor is a program to route connections through several servers for anonymity. It is in Ubuntu's repositories, but the Tor Project recommends using their Tor packages due to past issues with Ubuntu's. For setup info, see option (2) of https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en06:07
daxwhether they want to use our packages or listen to Tor is up to them, if they listen to Tor then obv. any issues with those packages would need to go to Tor rather than us (their channel is #tor on OFTC)06:08
lotuspsychjeokay06:08
lotuspsychjedax: weird ubuntu keeps feeding package tor, if its unsafe?06:08
daxI suspect that Tor's opinion on the matter is not the only one.06:09
lotuspsychjemaybe ill talk the hardened guys about it06:09
ducassegood morning, everyone06:12
lotuspsychjedax: seems like that guy already in hardened06:12
lotuspsychjehey ducasse06:12
ducassehi lotuspsychje06:13
lotuspsychjedax: bottom line of hardened guys: <sarnold> lotuspsychje: it's hard to know which packages will get community love and care06:25
immuhi10:49
BluesKajHiyas all11:16
ducassemorning/afternoon, BluesKaj13:55
BluesKajHi ducasse :-)13:56
ducassehow are things?13:56
BluesKajI'm fine, but the weather sucks, cold and damp, how about you?14:04
immuhi BluesKaj ducasse , weather is cool and dry14:23
ducasseBluesKaj: on some pretty heavy antibiotics (among other things) that my system doesn't agree with, so i'm not entirely myself. apologies for typos and weird language in advance :)14:24
BluesKajheavy antibiotics ..hmm hope they work for you, they did for me a few ago14:37
BluesKajyrs ago14:38
ducasseonly been on antibiotics once before, and they worked fine. the only problem is that my body *really* dislike them, so i get a bunch of side effects. less than a week left now, so no big deal.14:43
immuducasse, why are you taking heavy antibiotics? all ok mate . i know the effects of heavy medicines as my wife had to undergo them14:51
ducasseimmu: without going into details, it's to fight off an infection. the doctors don't really know what's wrong yet, but this is the first step.14:56
immuno blood test? i wish for your early recovery to good health14:57
immudo drink lots of water and rest well14:57
ducasseimmu: i did several blood tests because they suspected cancer, but thankfully those came back negative15:09
ducasseimmu: but thanks for that, i haven't been much online since this started - not much energy for support15:09
immustrange? with all blood tests normal what have the doctors have found yet? another round of tests?15:10
ducasseimmu: they did a whole bunch, i'm home until they find something or need to do more tests15:15
immuducasse, i will pray for your recovery and good health15:31
BluesKajyes ducasse we wish you good health, and get well soon15:34
ducassethanks, guys - i'm sure it will soon be sorted out. but know you know why if i'm suddenly not here much the coming days, i can only sit at desk for so long before it gets painful.15:38
ducassebut appreciate the well-wishing!15:39
immuwhats really happening to you? weakness, fever?15:43
immuwhat else every one15:53
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immutest17:26
ducasseimmu: thanks for caring, but i don't really want to go into details here17:28
immuno problem ducasse , your privacy and wishes will be respected17:29
EriC^^in the old days, new users used to join ubuntu for help, now the helpless can't join cause it's +r , and we end up with "reg" idiots who ask 10+ troll prize worthy questions a day flooding the channel with bull shit, while the people who actually needed help can't even figure out how to join18:11
EriC^^it's sad, and disgusting that the ubuntu company ditched its users and gave us a shit desktop now, and the ops won't move a finger to make the channel newbie hospitable again18:12
BluesKajperhaps an ##noobuntu chat could be set up18:18
BluesKajEriC^^, but I do agree the ubuntu chat has become more like the #linux chat where users are coming in questions about  code and long string commands etc18:20
BluesKajwith questions18:21
EriC^^who's this Neo1 ? every time i look at the channel i see him asking something and fighting with reg helpers, it should be a drinking game18:21
ducasseEriC^^: he's a totally newbie web/javascript developer who want to learn linux, but refuses to read docs. he insists on watching youtube videos instead.18:34
immuducasse, lol19:32
immuhey EriC^^19:34
immugoodnite all19:37
daftykins\o19:37
Bashing-omWe do Saturday :)21:17

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