[00:18] hey team; anyway to get these emojis as full color emojis in the gnome-terminal? 💯 😀 🙏 😁 💯 i know really important right? lol [00:20] Bashing-om, I pressed f10 during startup and got to a page that looks like bios I think - I don't know what u mean by reset the boot order, I didn't see that kind of option [00:21] anyone can please help with specific steps? [00:22] I have my usb plugged in (with old ubuntu ver. saved in there) [00:22] mittens: Each and every manufacturer implemtnts a differnt bios - and each is differnt from allothers . I can not tell you how to access and set the boot order on your specific machine . [00:23] I just hope I am tapping into bios [00:23] that makes sense BAshing-om [00:23] it looked different from what I saw before [00:24] mittens: gnerally when you boot the system in the boot splash is an advisory as to what key to press to active the bios setting utility . [00:24] yes I thought I tried all the options out, but I will try one more time and see if I can notice something new [00:25] thanks <3 [00:25] brb [00:26] mittens: there is only one option - whatever it may be .. like the del - F2 - F12 are some of the more common keys . [00:32] I'm back! [00:32] and you were right, it was in the bios I just didn't catch the boot order configuring option [00:33] mittens: :) making progress . [00:33] Bashing-om but I came back to ask, they gave me two different boot orders, one is for MIEF? and one is for LEGACY [00:33] rolly not meif but it was spelled like.. leif? UEFI! yes it was UEFI [00:34] ^-^;; wish my other laptop was working but something happened to its keyboard so i keep having to log out then comeback [00:34] mittens: Unless you have the need to otherwise, by all means go with EFI . it has some speed and partitoning advantages and is the future of computers . May as well learn it now . [00:35] my question is: am I supposed to change boot order for both UEFI and LEGACY? [00:35] any of you guys using Wayland? [00:35] nitemare: No, one or the other . EFI is suggested . [00:35] OH [00:36] ok I will change the UEFI boot order to USB device first and see what happens.. thanks a bunch Bashing-om! [00:36] mittens: Long as you are trying, I will try :) [00:38] mittens: sometimes ( though the kernel is signed ) maybe also disable secire boot whul in bios .. and re-anable after the install of drivers ( drivers are 3rd party many times ) . [00:38] oh... secure boot... fun [00:38] secure boot* [00:41] i would have preferred requiring a password just to boot up to secure boot [00:43] edisonbulb: Acer does that pass word thing . A real pain . [00:43] prevents evil maid attacks & lets me boot anything i want [00:57] i think my original question got buried so I'm gonna repost: how do i disable transparency in gnome in Ubuntu 17.10? it is quite annoying and I would like everything to be a solid color (preferably the default Ubuntu grey color) === bcowan_ is now known as bcowan [00:58] pavlos: it's already in the list [00:59] transparency in what app? [01:13] whats the proper way to fsck during boot in ubuntu 17.04 and newer? sudo touch /forcefsck and rebooting didnt seem to help... the file was removed but the root filesystem was never checked according to tune2fs -l [01:20] kk4ewt: transparency in the menu bar at the top of the screen and the dock on the left side of the screen [01:20] Apachez: You can also force fsck at boot time by passing fsck.mode=force : https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-fsck@.service.html . [01:22] tnx ill try that too [01:43] Is it safe to put a fresh ubuntu installation on my dmz exposed to the internet? [01:45] well i guess the solution to my problem is going to be "sudo apt install mate" [01:52] Bashing-om WOOT WOOT WOOT [01:52] Hallelujah! [01:52] I am reborn! [01:52] thanks again [01:56] mittens: L) .. simple as falling out od bed wide awake - when you know . Now practice good habits and not corrupt your 'buntu :) [01:56] well then [01:56] MATE is not showing up in lightDM [01:56] back to square on [01:59] :) alright! === Sven_vB_ is now known as Sven_vB [02:18] If I create a Samba user with the same username as my own, will it inherit my permissions? [02:19] By "my own" I mean the same as my username as the host user. [02:25] Nevermind, RTFMed and answered my own question. [02:36] hi all [02:36] i try setup a svn server but.... when try access via svn address/URL i get this error: org.apache.subversion.javahl.ClientException: E210003: connection refused by the server any advice why? [02:38] hallelujah I downloaded and launched steam it worked properly this time [02:38] happinezz [02:39] anyone know if I can download tor from ubuntu software? they have different kinds of tor software and not sure which one is which [02:40] mittens: ' apt search tor ' -> apt show to know your options . [02:42] so i installed ubuntu with gnome and it was working perfectly for a few hours and then i restarted it and it wouldnt work. it boots straight into the desktop without any icons or backgrounds or any kindof graphical "pizaz" but i can move the mouse and see all the text and the dash. when i move the mouse over something like hot corner it works. when i click on an application it brings me to the login screen. and then i [02:42] login and its the same problem. i was getting an internal error from plymouth on the reboot just before if thats important [02:42] !info tor | artful [02:42] artful: tor (source: tor): anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.0.10-1 (artful), package size 1186 kB, installed size 4200 kB [02:42] actuthanks Bashing-om! [02:43] omg xD [02:43] something is happenin yayyy [02:46] this is me crying tears of joy :=========== D [02:46] hmm on second thought that doesn't look like crying face [02:46] Hi everyone. I was curious if anyone knows about an issue with the main Ubuntu repos hanging by several minutes? I had to use a different mirror. [02:46] mittens, could we please take the chatter to the offtopic channel [02:47] #ubuntu-offtopic please mittens [02:47] got it! sorry about that Bazhang [02:53] Bashing-om, I downloaded Tor using terminal commands thanks again see u guys around! [02:58] Hi, How do I disable the active of Meta/Win key in gnome (ubuntu 17.10) I've tried Tweaks>Keyboard & Mouse Overview Shortcut switched to "Right Super" restarted gnome shell. this didn't work :( [03:43] dm_comp: meta and win are two different keys, normally. meta is usually mapped to alt, super to win. === capella is now known as capella|420 === capella|420 is now known as capella [03:57] oh, then I meant to say super (the one with the Windows logo). I found a workaround though :) [04:01] I'm having a typography issue. This is what my screenshots look like in headless Chrome (https://imgur.com/a/HxElP), as compared with on the web: https://oembed.fwdeveryone.com/?thread-id=e8RFukWTS5Wo54fBNbZ2yQ. Because the font rendering in my ubuntu is a little wonky I'm not getting accurate height values from Selenium, because there are slightly more words per line in some of the paragraphs in the screenshot even [04:01] though the CSS is identical. Any insight? I've tried everything on the web, but I'm mostly doing guess-and-check since I'm not sure exactly what is wrong about the fonts, other than they are kind of blurry. [04:01] though the CSS is identical. Any insight? I've tried everything on the web, but I'm mostly doing guess-and-check since I'm not sure exactly what is wrong about the fonts, other than they are kind of blurry. [04:03] infinitesum: you could try #web? that's just an early-morning guess, though... [04:04] I think it's specific to ubuntu font rendering, it's not an html or css issue === svm_invi_ is now known as svm_invictvs === mesilliac_ is now known as mesilliac === notdaniel is now known as notnotdaniel [04:27] In 16.04 I could select a keyboard input mode that was US International Alt Gr dead keys [04:27] then I could press alt and get certain letters with accents I need to type in Spanish - can't find that option on 17.10 [04:27] anyone know how to enable this? [04:29] virtuosoj: are you using wayland or x11? [04:30] hi all [04:30] ducasse: wayland [04:30] i have a problem with internet connection.i use my phone hotspot in my pc. [04:31] i can not access some site but i can access these site in phone browser [04:32] in pc i can ping these site but i can not browse these.i change my dns but not useful [04:32] i use ubuntu 16.04 [04:32] virtuosoj: then i'm not sure, other than you can manipulate keyboard settings via various XKB_* variables in your .profile - sorry [04:34] im having a problem with my ubuntu 16 install where the wifi and video drivers just randomly dont work when i boot and i have to go through lengthy processes to reinstall them... any ideas what i should do? [04:34] Hello. So I have an odd problem. I have a server (on old hardware) with three different ubuntu OS - one desktop, and two servers. I decided today to boot up the desktop and run some software updates, but now I get a purple screen when trying to access the servers. [04:35] I tried to run the grub-configure command, but that hasn't fixed it. Is there a good way to recover the servers from inside the desktop? [04:41] epic_null: can you boot them with the 'nomodeset' boot parameter ? then we looking at a broken graphic's driver . [04:53] um... my instructions say to modify /boot/grub/grub.conf, however I don't seem to have one. Is it something I can create and put the setting in, or is a missing grub.conf a problem? [04:54] I remember at one point having one, as I have customized the load process, however I may have done that on one of my servers instead of the desktop... [05:03] epic_null: A one tome edot is from grub's boot menu : e key -> boot paramater screen . At the line starting with linux and containing quiet splsh . replace quiet splash with nomodeset . ctl+x to continue the boot process . [05:03] one time edit ** [05:04] So I added a network interface to my primary box, (Let's call it USBEnet 100mbit connection) and I have my on board NIC (Onboard Enet 1000mbit connection) I want the Onboard NIC to be the default, and use the USB interface as a pipeline for my Libvirt "boxes". I have been trying to get this to work using every method under the sun, I've downloaded ifmetric and attempted to change the metric there with no success, I can't find a sett [05:04] ing to change the default NIC, what am I missing? [05:04] er... I see a single line starting with "linux", but I don't see anything mentioninga splash. [05:05] it also ends with "ro", but those might be options? [05:05] I tried adding "nomodeset" after "ro" and got no change in behavior [05:06] epic_null: The line ends with ro ? then add nomodeset just before . I can believe that a server has no quiet splash parameters . [05:08] Update: It's not fixed. [05:08] can someone help me configure sublime for bash [05:09] and I'm honestly surprised by the purple screen. If it is normal, then it's usually not there for an entire second before I start seeing the startup messages. [05:09] epic_null: Any hints in the boot messages in the terminal as it boots up ? [05:10] I wish, but I'm not seeing them right now. :/ That's the part I'm trying to get to. [05:11] I could reboot and tell you exactly what the lines are in the grub editor, or I can get you any info from the working desktop OS. The servers on the other hand, no hints or text. [05:14] epic_null: Sorry. will take one sharper than I am at this time . too late my time to think this deep and involved . [05:17] So I added a network interface to my primary box, (Let's call it USBEnet 100mbit connection) and I have my on board NIC (Onboard Enet 1000mbit connection) I want the Onboard NIC to be the default, and use the USB interface as a pipeline for my Libvirt "boxes". I have been trying to get this to work using every method under the sun, I've downloaded ifmetric and attempted to change the metric there with no success, I can't find a sett [05:17] ing to change the default NIC, what am I missing? [05:32] Hi guys [05:32] Anyone using fractional scaling? [05:32] in wayland [06:10] I have a small problem, would appreciate any help trying to fix it. I need to set kde to not try to log me into a Wayland session. It's dropping me to a black screen [06:13] thre should be a dropdown on the login screen [06:14] I need some help setting up LVM on a remote system. I don't understand how to do it but I know i have to in order to use two disks as one for storage. [06:17] MannyLNJ: I have not use it [06:17] MannyLNJ: what is that? [06:20] luisgarciaalanis, LVM is Logicial Volume Manager it lets you treat mutiples disks as one [06:20] MannyLNJ: Have you read through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm ? [06:21] Software raid? [06:21] luisgarciaalanis: Yes, provided by the kernel [06:21] I see [06:21] you prob need the boot partition to not be on the raid :P [06:21] Does any of you guys sue a 4K desktop monitor? [06:22] Stupendoussteve, no not yet [06:24] MannyLNJ: It has a good start. If it's remote and already running you will probably want to create a large pool for specific data [06:24] I don't know what would look crisper 4K with fractional scaling or 1440p at 27 inches... Since I don't know how fractional scaling is implemented [06:25] and I know natively gnome can only do integer. [06:25] I am looking into buying a new monitor [06:25] Stupendoussteve, I will look at that. It's going to be a media server in my basement but no screem [06:25] fractional scaling is so new that its hard to find technical reviews on it [06:26] MannyLNJ: Ah, so "remote" but not too remote :) I believe the graphical ubuntu install can set up an LVM based system now [06:28] Hi, In Ubuntu there is no module lirc_serial in the lirc package while it it present in xubuntu. is this a bug/issue ? === iojw is now known as Gooey === Gooey is now known as iojw [07:14] Bash 4.3.48: Why am I getting different results for "ls .* -lhtr | tail" and "ls * -lhtr | tail"? I thought they are the same, seems I got something wrong. [07:17] demahum: which release is this? [07:17] ducasse: 16.04 servef [07:17] server* [07:20] demahum: '.*' includes files/dirs startting with '.' ('hidden' files) [07:21] ducasse: It's not about that. I just need to experiment a bit and I'll understand, it's probably some my fault regarding the files and what I expect. [07:22] Thanks anyway. :) [07:23] demahum: there is also #ubuntu-server channel for you mate [07:23] lotuspsychje: thanks mate :) [07:23] np [07:24] demahum: well, that . will give you different results [07:26] Hi [07:26] I want tell you how I've been customizing my server [07:27] at first we change user to not root [07:27] Neo1: this is ubuntu support [07:28] lotuspsychje: I want you check I'm doing correctly or not [07:28] lotuspsychje: whether I'm doing correctly or not* ))) [07:28] Neo1: this channel is not for storytelling, try to ask your question in 1 line please [07:29] lotuspsychje: what the basics customization shall I do after install ubuntu server? [07:30] Neo1: what do you want exactly? [07:30] ok, seems it's offtop, I'll go to ubuntu-oftop [07:30] !server | Neo1 start here [07:30] Neo1 start here: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Xenial (Xenial Xerus 16.04.1) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server [07:30] heyo -- quick and probably common question. anyone know how I can get u2f yubikey auth working in browsers on 17.10? I've added the udev rules already and I'm in the plugdev group, not sure what else I could be missing... I also have the host0 libraries [07:31] lotuspsychje: I want to set up server, put there LAMP and node.js and start doing chat on node.js [07:32] !lamp | Neo1 read here mate [07:32] Neo1 read here mate: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process. [07:33] I'll do [07:34] Neo1: there is also #ubuntu-server for specific server questions if you like [07:35] ok, thanks === led_ir23 is now known as led_ir22 [07:44] hmm.. no reply means this must not be as common as I thought. I'll try the yubico channels as well [07:44] miatomi: to solve issues here, try repeating with all details in one line [07:45] miatomi: try to mentio ubuntu version, system up to date, kernel, steps taken,.. [07:47] miatomi: users wakeup at different timezones and will be able to help when you repeat [08:01] Hi. What package adds recommendations to bash when a command fails? On Ubuntu desktop if you type eg "ranger" and ranger isn't installed, it will recommend an apt package to install. On Ubuntu Server, I get no such recommendations. [08:02] only "command not found" [08:03] !info ranger [08:03] ranger (source: ranger): File manager with an ncurses frontend written in Python. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.8.1-0.2 (artful), package size 176 kB, installed size 729 kB [08:03] rangergord: sudo apt install ranger? [08:03] lotuspsychje: it was just an example, I'm looking for the Ubuntu package that does what you just did automatically [08:03] sometimes a binary doesn't have the same name as the package you get it from [08:04] rangergord: apt-cache search your package? [08:05] nm, I found it, it's command-not-found [08:05] it's very convenient [08:06] so desktop Ubuntu has it installed by default, but server Ubuntu doesn't [08:12] Is named a default enabled ubuntu server service? [08:12] I'm a little bit unsure who starts the process... [08:14] m15k: there's a nice #ubuntu-server channel [08:14] Ah okay. [08:14] Thanks [08:19] rangergord: desktop ubuntu and ubuntu server are intended for different audiences, although it's a handy package i guess the assumption is that server admins don't need it [08:19] rangergord: plus, they can always install it [08:20] rangergord: there are many other differences as well [08:26] good morning [08:27] \o [08:28] olavo: anything we can help with? [08:28] yes [08:29] refind not boot [08:29] oh, this again. [08:29] mornign [08:30] I still can not solve [08:30] olavo, have you fully read the links we have shown you on exactly how to do that [08:30] yes [08:31] but no bootable device message [08:31] olavo, so please tell us , in a full sentence what exactly is not working [08:31] olavo, pastebin the exact error messages [08:31] ok [08:34] https://pastebin.com/kJHPe4U3 [08:34] but no bootable device after reboot [08:34] olavo: what iso are you using [08:35] ubuntu 17.10 [08:35] whats the md5sum [08:36] olavo: you can also go here - https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/11/15/%23ubuntu.txt - search for the advice from TJ- and follow that [08:37] 5eb0631f28384665b57bceffe69c29b0 *ubuntu-17.10-desktop-amd64.iso [08:37] Ben64: its a calculation you can run to see if the image you downloaded has not been tampered with [08:37] olavo: whats with the asterisk [08:38] i gave up on ubuntu 17.10 when i tried to install it into my new dell inspiron 7000 laptop last week.. Now i have ubuntu 16.10 [08:38] how do you mean ? [08:38] Knightwise: he was asking olavo for it [08:38] truthadjustr: bad. 16.10 isn't supported [08:38] Ben64: on what machine ? [08:38] Knightwise: dunno what you're talking about [08:39] Ben64: yeah.. but 17.10 install was looking for a CD? i burned the iso and plug to usb [08:39] truthadjustr: use 16.04 if you don't want 17.10 [08:39] that does not boot to refind [08:39] Ben64: how come? 16.04 has longer support? [08:39] truthadjustr: yep. 16.04 is LTS, supported until April 2021 [08:40] !lts | truthadjustr [08:40] truthadjustr: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions are supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Xenial (Xenial Xerus 16.04.1). Ubuntu !flavors may have different support durations, check their release notes for information. [08:40] 16.10 lost support in July [08:40] it's too late.. [08:40] my machine is es1-132 hard drive emmc [08:41] EFI partition it is empty [08:41] Ben64: i already setup my laptop.. can i downgrade to 16.04 to have the LTS? [08:41] truthadjustr: why not upgrade 16.10 to 17.04, which is supported until january, at least? [08:41] olavo: run this and give result --- "inxi -Fxxprzc0 | pastebinit" [08:42] truthadjustr: downgrading is not supported, you'd need to reinstall [08:42] auronandace: cannot do that.. [08:42] no more time [08:42] do you have time to deal with an exploited system? [08:43] i'll find time to redo for 16.04 [08:43] damn it [08:43] truthadjustr: continuing running 16.04 is a *very* bad idea! [08:43] ducasse: 16.04 is fine :D [08:43] 16.10, sorry [08:43] http://paste.ubuntu.com/26101717/ [08:45] olavo: why are you using refind then [08:46] Why the machine does not boot [08:46] because you're trying to use refind [08:46] olavo, you need to answer our questions [08:46] olavo: you don't need refind, it should work with grub [08:46] olavo, please give answers first [08:47] no grub appear [08:49] https://pastebin.com/90PiHkTR [08:50] help me please [08:54] boot in recovery mode (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode) [08:59] I've been installing apache and I don't see page http://46.101.180.140/ [08:59] where localhost? [09:00] go to link, do you see there? [09:02] guys, trying to upgradr 14.04 to 14.10, sources.list has security/archive replaced with old-releases... still when I do-release-upgrade I fail with two failed fetches from archive.ubuntu.com, how come is that? [09:02] see this UFW http://prntscr.com/hieycn [09:03] two 80 ports, I'd been testing and added 80 port [09:04] if I want for node.js open some port what shell I do? [09:04] use utf? [09:04] Reign_: uh, 14.04 upgrades to 16.04 [09:04] Reign_: 14.10 hasn't been supported for quite some time. why aren't you upgrading to 16.04? [09:05] Neo1: that url is working [09:06] Ben64: auronandace upgrade manager offers me to go with 14.10 somehow [09:06] jatt: I correct it, there in ufw was denied port 80, look at screen below [09:06] Neo1: alright [09:06] Reign_: change the setting to LTS then [09:07] Ben64: it is set to lts [09:07] Neo1: your node.js app can run behind port 80 [09:07] Neo1: why use another port? [09:07] jatt: yes on 80 port I will run php [09:08] jatt: I want put this domain to my server, dns not installed http://american-chat.ru [09:15] jatt: see I've done it http://american-chat.ru/ [09:15] cool [09:17] Ben64: indeed it was normal again, maybe at some point it was change by default since I'm initially upgrading from 12.04, anyway, not it offered my 16.04 but fetching phase fails again whit this one issue: Failed to fetch W:Nepavyko parsiųsti http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/saucy/partner/source/Sources 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.15 80] [09:17] *now it offered me 16.04 [09:19] any advices why 14.04->16.04 fails with this? [09:19] saucy isn't 14.04 [09:19] no idea where it get saucy from [09:22] blah, it was in souce.list under partners .. thanks again [09:30] Ben64: thanks, seems to work fine now === jstein_ is now known as jstein === cagrajesh_ is now known as cagrajesh [10:54] Howdy folks [10:55] Hey, umm, I upgraded my Ubuntu to 17.10 [10:56] And Firefox to quantum. Not sure where exactly is the problem, but all symbols are now unicode error codes on websites. Like Youtube player has unicode error symbols instead of familiar rectangle thing to indicate full screen mode and such [10:57] Not sure if it's just firefox problem or what, but google searching for just firefox doesn't seem to bring up anyone else sharing this problem === r0Oter is now known as r00ter [10:59] Aaand just as I said that, I figured it out. I had disabled downloadable fonts [12:18] Hi, i got a wiered thing that started recently - sometimes when i click on something my screen turns green like this : https://imgur.com/a/OjUgj - i have checked temperature of my parts but they are really cool everywhere - it goes away as soon as i mouseover the menu at the top - when running games it does not happen [12:20] Thyriaen: gpu/driver? [12:21] and ubuntu version + desktop? [12:23] ducasse, i am using a RxVega with a staging kernel ( which worked for about 3 months now ), using the amdgpu driver included in the custom kernel 4.13 - running the pantheon desktop [12:24] ducasse, unfortunately i have to wait for kernel 4.15 to get released to include the DC patches so RxVega runs on it :/ [12:24] ducasse, ( Ubuntu 16.04 ) [12:29] Thyriaen: so you can't test with a supported kernel? [12:37] Thyriaen, what about using the AMDGPU-PRO driver with the supported kernel ? [12:53] ducasse, yes i cannot test it with a supported kernel [12:54] BluesKaj, amdgpu runs terrible performance wise for some reason :( [12:56] I mean the amdgpu-pro driver [13:00] Thyriaen: just a nitpick, but i would probably say "no, i cannot test..." ;) [13:03] Thyriaen, https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Driver-for-Linux-Release-Notes.aspx === xuumno is now known as Optimus_Prime [13:17] hello! [13:18] I'm on Ubuntu 17.10 and I would like to switch to snaps for every package that is available. What is the fastest way to do it? [13:19] so far many gnome programs are available in snaps. Is there an automatic or near automatic way to map the installed programs to their snaps and handle the installs/uninstalls? are there any risks? [13:21] billythekido: no automatic way other than creating a script, and the snap names do not always match the apt package names [13:21] that's what I thought :( could be "painful" [13:22] so i think you need to do this pretty manually [13:22] what do you believe it would be the behaviour while updating to 18.04? do you think it will install the snaps for you? will it keep the standard programs ending up with dups? [13:23] I know it is highly speculative but what you recon will be the most likely policy based on past? [13:23] snaps are independent of release [13:24] i think the target is when you install 18.04 to get the snap version of most packages right? [13:24] (fresh install) [13:24] if you have a program installed as snap now, it will still be a snap after upgrading to 18.04 [13:25] that's understandable [13:25] but 18.04 will still primarily use apt [13:25] ok that answers it I think [13:25] if you want mostly snaps, look at ubuntu core [13:26] that's _all_ snaps [13:26] no apt at all [13:28] it's not intended as a desktop system aiui, but you might learn something from it [13:30] I had a look on snaps and it seems the "standard" packages are already available: gnome-calculator gnome-calendar gnome-system-monitor gnome-font-viewer gnome-logs eog evince gedit libreoffice [13:31] it is reasonable to assume as you said that they will stick to apts for the next version (it is an LTS afterall) [13:31] I'm tempted to risk and replace with snaps [13:32] there's no ubuntu-desktop, though [13:33] you should probably ask these questions in #snappy [13:33] there is gnome-3-26-1604 [13:33] you are right [13:33] worth pinging them just to hear their thoughts [13:34] thanks a lot for your input ducasse :) [13:34] no problem :) [13:35] (i'm sticking with apt for a while yet ;) [13:37] I've been customizing ubuntu sever and have got this error: [13:37] Job for apache2.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status apache2.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details. [13:38] Neo1, did you run the command it mentioned? it usually tells you why in that output [13:38] when I do sudo systemctl restart apache2, I'll get this error [13:39] wait now check [13:39] Neo1: it literally tells you to run 'systemctl status apache2.service' [13:39] billythekido: just a user's opinion though, canonical has started a lot of things like upstart, unity, lightdm, mir etc etc only to be semi-abandoned later on.... [13:40] ducasse: active faild [13:41] Neo1, also check apache's logs [13:41] alkisg: and flatpak is a pretty serious contender, appimage less so imo... [13:42] Neo1: use `journalctl -xe`, you probably made a mistake in your config. [13:42] BluesKaj, yes - i tried the amdgpu pro driver - and its performance in games is horrible compared to the open source amdgpu driver [13:43] geia sou alkisg [13:43] that is true [13:43] and flatpak has more options at the moment [13:44] how get out from sudo systemctl status apache2? [13:44] Ctr+X? [13:44] Neo1: press q [13:45] I'm surprised that would even block the terminal. I know it as a message printing command. [13:45] how start apach2? apach2 start doesn't work? [13:46] sudo systemctl apache2 start doesn't help as well [13:46] Neo1: 'systemctl start apache2.service' [13:46] Neo1: apache2.service… you can also use TAB complete if you're not sure. [13:47] what does ls /etc/init.d/apache* say [13:48] adrian_1908: 'status' passes the output through a pager by default [13:48] use --no-pager to override [13:49] hmm, never happened to me so far. Always a message like cat. [13:49] why isn't --no-pager the default? [13:49] I've got this error http://prntscr.com/hiha1z [13:49] Job for apache2.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status apache2.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details. [13:49] [14:42:21] Neo1: use `journalctl -xe`, you probably made a mistake in your config. [13:49] it's like systemd has to change things people are used to using [13:50] adrian_1908: maybe you, like me, have SYSTEMD_PAGER set to 'cat' [13:50] adrian_1908: how it use? [13:50] you type it [13:50] journalctl -xe [13:50] it should give you the error message near the bottom. That might help identify your problem, [13:52] adrian_1908: what is this sudo apache2ctl configtest, I used this before? [13:52] No idea, I don't use Apache. Have you run the command yet? [13:52] adrian_1908: I've got it http://prntscr.com/hihb9z [13:53] adrian_1908: yes this command sudo apache2ctl configtest [13:53] Neo1: The info it gave you looks pretty informative no? Try to fix the issues. [13:54] Neo1: you've typed 'ServerAllas' instead of 'ServerAlias' [13:54] ducasse: yes, how you know? [13:54] Is this a troll account? [13:54] yes there show it [13:55] Neo1: because i read the error [13:55] ducasse: I deliberately did it, I thought alias is wrong, well [13:55] omg [14:05] How rename directory or file? I always use mv. Is it right way? [14:05] mv old_file_name new_file_name [14:06] everybody does in this way? [14:07] right click on the file choose rename? [14:09] Neo1, yes it is a common method, also rename is used. here is a link explaining it.. >> https://www.maketecheasier.com/rename-files-in-linux/ [14:10] Tin_man: Thank, I've been reading [14:10] Hi everyone. This is going to sound like a dumb question but my mouse has suddenly stopped working and now I can't move my little mouse pointer. Is there a keyboard equivalent for moving the mouse? [14:11] Richard_Cavell: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/mouse-mousekeys.html [14:11] Um... I can't click on that. [14:14] Hi guyss!, Hum, there are some software like Google Drive for Ubuntu? I mean, with your folders sinc with GD. Yeah I know it's google, but I need for my job [14:14] Richard_Cavell, you can type it into your browser :) [14:15] I saw Grive in GitHub, but its a bit annoying [14:15] FSFRS: do you know how to use google drive, did you see there two apps now, which you use? for second require gsuit account, What does it mean? [14:16] Tin_man: I'm using that google cloud instead google drive, can't get gsuit account, do you have one? Or you'll also use clods? [14:17] Neo1, huh? [14:17] Tin_man: are you sing this app? http://prntscr.com/hihkic [14:17] i have google drive, but never use it.. [14:17]