[02:53] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-artwork:: [greybird] r537 Make Thunar-Gtk3 look backdrop-ish when losing focus... (by Simon Steinbeiß)
[09:49] <ochosi> flocculant: apart from the features you've been discussing with bluesabre recently for pa-plugin, do we know about any regressions/problems with the updated apps from qa-staging in bionic?
[09:49] <ochosi> just so i know if i should try to tackle anything specific before christmas
[09:50] <ochosi> would be nice to get as much as possible from staging -> archive as soon as possible and then think about whether there's anything to promote from qa-experimental -> qa-staging
[09:51] <flocculant> not that I'm aware of - I've at least used the 3 new apps, all appear to work ok - not remembering any sort of visual thing jumping out at me
[09:53] <ochosi> kewl
[09:53] <flocculant> bluesabre: ok - winning that fight now - some libkey package was in autoremovable, reinsalled build-deps for pa-plugin and did it all again. 
[09:54] <flocculant> bluesabre: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26103403/
[09:54] <flocculant> ochosi: no problem :)
[09:54] <ochosi> bluesabre, Unit193: Any thoughts/stoppers from your side to just promote the things we have kept in qa-staging to the archive? as there have been no obvious stoppers i'd like to get as many testers as possible asap and pushing them would help. we can also subsequently discuss if anything from experimental shall be promoted to staging
[09:55] <flocculant> bluesabre: also I found that sometimes when I was restarting the panel, the icon wasn't grey during this mucking about
[09:56] <ochosi> bluesabre, Unit193: btw, having the 4.13 panel in experimental would be helpful
[09:57] <Unit193> ochosi: There's nothing to push, they're all backports.
[09:57] <flocculant> ochosi: the things in qa-staging are only for artful afaik
[09:57] <flocculant> ha ha 
[09:58] <ochosi> hah
[09:59] <ochosi> noice
[09:59]  * ochosi slaps himself
[09:59] <flocculant> ochosi: btw - got an issue with (I assume xfdesktop4) where I lose a bunch of right click 'stuffs' on desktop, open terminal here for instance
[10:02] <Unit193> xubuntu_migrate-tasklist-separator.patch
[10:02] <Unit193> looks like it can go away.
[10:03] <ochosi> Unit193: yes, that's an old one
[10:03] <ochosi> we don't need that from the previous LTS anymore
[10:03] <ochosi> so it can go
[10:03] <ochosi> flocculant: with xfdesktop 4.13?
[10:04] <flocculant> ochosi: from the ppa yep
[10:05] <ochosi> may be a problem with garcon
[10:05] <ochosi> i vaguely remember some issues with that
[10:05] <flocculant> thought I'd reported it - seems not
[10:23] <ochosi> would be good if you could give a detailed account on what changed exactly
[10:23] <ochosi> so i can try to reproduce and debug that a little
[10:23] <flocculant> ochosi: ack
[10:23] <ochosi> (i personally only use xfdesktop to show the wallpaper...)
[10:24] <flocculant> I have a few things on desktop
[10:42] <flocculant> ochosi: now I can't remember what I used to do before :D
[10:43] <flocculant> been so long since I lost it
[10:44] <flocculant> iirc - right click on folder on desktop used to be able to open terminal here, but don't see it in vm of bionic either
[11:10] <ochosi> flocculant: not sure whether that was ever there, that's a standard thunar thing though
[11:29] <flocculant> perhaps it's thunar then
[11:30] <flocculant> I know last cycle the behaviour changed
[11:58] <flocculant> Unit193: can't remember the reply now, possible to see what downloads have happened on a ppa? specifically the qa-staging one
[11:58] <flocculant> or bluesabre - or anyone else who happens to know :D
[12:05] <nueb> I would like some assistance in restoring the default greybird theme - i seem to have broken it
[12:06] <nueb> after editing the images in "/usr/share/themes/greybird/xfwm4", the window title bar is gone
[12:07] <nueb> i tried downloading greybird from its github and replacing the greybird folder with the latest github release, but the windowbar is still broken when choosing "greybird" in window manager
[12:07] <ochosi> nueb: that's easy, just sudo apt install greybird-gtk-theme --reinstall
[12:08] <ochosi> but this would also mean all your changes are gone
[12:08] <ochosi> if you want to effectively edit/work with the theme, i recommend you git clone greybird into ~/.themes and edit it there on a git branch
[12:08] <ochosi> then you'll also havev a clear diff and can reset more easily
[12:08] <ochosi> you can even name it differently so you can switch back and forth easil
[12:08] <ochosi> y
[12:13] <nueb> thank you guys so much. i appreciate the help
[12:14] <nueb> I'm not sure exactly where i went wrong. i only edited a couple of the .xpm files and deleted a couple of the .png files, in order to make the window corners flat and not rounded
[12:14] <nueb> and to remove the gradients
[19:57] <bluesabre> flocculant: Yeah, I've seen the icon initialized to grey a few times, seems to happen rarely, and goes away when hovering :\
[19:58] <bluesabre> I pushed a bunch of changes in the last 48 hours for playlist improvements, stability, and memory leaks... if you want to poke around
[19:58] <bluesabre> er... last week :D https://git.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin/log/
[20:16] <bluesabre> Planning to do another point release for the pa-plug today, and then I might have one more new thing to add to it this week before it's feature complete
[20:16] <Unit193> flocculant: Yeah, sort of.
[20:16] <bluesabre> Pretty good for the beginning of December :)
[20:18] <Unit193> bluesabre: Hellos.
[20:18] <bluesabre> Unit193: heya
[20:31] <Unit193> What's up doc?
[20:38] <bluesabre> Unit193: not much, just writing code and cleaning
[20:53] <flocculant> bluesabre: ok - as far as playlists go - things I'm using currently don't appear to show them :
[20:54] <flocculant> p
[20:54] <flocculant> I do check - what the crack is with clementine though - seems to work ok here
[20:55] <flocculant> Unit193: ok - basically just wanted to know a number there if possible
[20:55] <Unit193> Yeah, pasting now.
[20:55] <flocculant> \o/
[20:56] <Unit193> flocculant: Numbers can be easily off, and don't forget that building counts too: http://paste.openstack.org/show/lm1lipFyg7ePKdbKdf9g
[20:57] <flocculant> some usage showing then perhaps 
[21:09] <bluesabre> flocculant: so, no playlists show, or just clementine?
[21:09] <bluesabre> I've tested with rhythmbox and clementine, not sure what other apps support them
[21:21] <ochosi> bluesabre, flocculant: i fixed some issues in notifyd's state machine this week (read/unread states in DND or without), would be great if you could give it a spin
[21:26] <bluesabre> ochosi: will give that a shot this week
[21:26] <bluesabre> ochosi: likewise, if you want to shake the pa-plug down, that'd be helpful :)
[21:29] <ochosi> bluesabre: will shake, rattle and roll it
[21:30] <bluesabre> :D
[22:04] <bluesabre> knome: soooooo.... wallpaper contest?
[22:05] <knome> yes
[22:05] <knome> we need to set the rules
[22:06] <knome> there was some disagreey
[22:08] <bluesabre> Let me know if there's anything you need from me
[22:09] <knome> let me look at the ML thread quickly
[22:09] <knome> hmm
[22:09] <knome> i found a new place where i have to fix the logos
[22:09] <knome> the mailman stuff
[22:42] <knome> new email re: wallpaper contest sent