=== maclin1 is now known as maclin === micahg_ is now known as micahg === cpaelzer_ is now known as cpaelzer === cpaelzer is now known as cpaelzer_ === cpaelzer_ is now known as cpaelzer === cpaelzer is now known as cpaelzer_ === cpaelzer_ is now known as cpaelzer === awayney is now known as Laney === niedbalski_ is now known as niedbalski [16:42] hello [16:42] #startmeeting [16:42] Meeting started Mon Dec 4 16:42:35 2017 UTC. The chair is tyhicks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [16:42] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick [16:42] \o [16:42] The meeting agenda can be found at: [16:42] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting [16:42] [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly stand-up report [16:42] jdstrand: you're up [16:44] hey [16:44] This week I'm primarily focusing on things for 2.30: [16:44] * finish review-tools resquashfs tests [16:44] * investigate/implement proper fix for hotplugged devices not being added to device cgroup (mir input forum issue) [16:45] * policy updates PR for 2.30 [16:45] * pickup the ssh/gpg interfaces PR [16:45] * snapd 2.30 PR reviews [16:45] * investigate biometrics observe interface [16:45] * implement screen-lock interface [16:45] * non-2.30 PR reviews as have time (eg, layouts, xdg-settings) [16:45] that's it from me [16:45] mdeslaur: you're up [16:45] I'm in the happy place this week [16:45] I just published an evince update [16:45] and I have a couple more to test [16:45] I also want to work on ubuntu-support-status this week [16:45] and I'm off on friday [16:45] that's it for me, sbeattie? [16:46] I'm in the happy place [16:46] I'm still researching cve triage process for snaps [16:46] I have some upstream apparmor tasks I need to get to [16:47] I am also monitoring kernel cves/respins [16:47] and I have a couple of other random issues on my plate [16:47] that's it for me; tyhicks, over to you. [16:47] * weekly role: happy place [16:47] * embargoed issues [16:47] * squashfs reproduceability [16:47] * nudge a number of things along: [16:47] * snapd seccomp logging PR [16:48] * libseccomp Xenial SRU [16:48] * audit SRUs [16:48] * libseccomp-golang upstream PR [16:48] jjohansen: you're up [16:48] I am working on making apparmor mount mediation work with the mount code rework [16:49] I will also being doing a 4.14 kernel for the kernel team [16:49] and maybe I can get some work done on updating the backport kernels [16:50] and I suppose there are several bugs to look at but I don't have any bug numbers of particular ones [16:50] sarnold: you are up [16:51] I'm on bug triage this week [16:51] and doing some embargoed work [16:51] with libteam MIR after that, if there's time [16:52] that's it for me, chrisccoulson? [16:52] I need to finish up rust 1.22 updates this week. There are currently 3 separate failures I need to investigate, and one of these looks like it might be the "rust builds fail randomly in launchpad" issue I had last time [16:53] which I worked around by continually hitting retry until it built [16:53] I've got an embargoed update to prepare [16:54] I should be able to look at this apparmor / audit work this week [16:54] that's me done [16:54] I'm on community this week [16:54] Other than that I am still working on two internal assignments and an embargoed issue. [16:54] on to you, leosilva [16:54] I'm on CVE-triage this week. [16:55] I just published curl for precise [16:55] I'll do my normal hunting too and some research. [16:55] that's it for me. tyhicks it's back to you! [16:56] [TOPIC] Highlighted packages === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Highlighted packages [16:56] The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. [16:56] See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved. [16:56] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/sun-javadb.html [16:56] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/yaml-cpp.html [16:56] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/most.html [16:56] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/git-hub.html [16:56] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/libuser.html [16:56] [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Miscellaneous and Questions [16:56] Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss? [16:57] jdstrand, mdeslaur, sbeattie, jjohansen, sarnold, ChrisCoulson, ratliff, leosilva: Thanks! [16:57] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [16:57] Meeting ended Mon Dec 4 16:57:30 2017 UTC. [16:57] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-12-04-16.42.moin.txt [16:57] thank you, tyhicks! [16:57] thanks tyhicks! [16:57] thanks tyhicks! [16:57] thanks tyhicks [16:58] thanks tyhicks [16:59] tyhicks: thanks! [17:03] tyhicks: thanks! :) [19:01] Hi, Is it time for meeting? [19:01] Yes. Who's here? [19:01] o/ [19:01] I am here [19:02] o/ [19:02] o/ [19:04] Who's chairing today? [19:04] Should I? [19:05] #startmeeting Developer Membership Board [19:05] Meeting started Mon Dec 4 19:05:11 2017 UTC. The chair is rbasak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [19:05] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Developer Membership Board Meeting | Current topic: [19:05] * rbasak volunteers [19:05] rbasak: \o/ [19:05] #topic Review of previous action items === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Developer Membership Board Meeting | Current topic: Review of previous action items [19:05] jbicha to send out announcement email (done) [19:05] rbasak to handle ACL for osomon's chromium-browser upload rights (done) [19:05] #info All previous action items complete [19:06] #topic Package Set/Per Package Uploader Applications === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Developer Membership Board Meeting | Current topic: Package Set/Per Package Uploader Applications [19:06] #subtopic handsome_feng for some Kylin/UKUI related PPU [19:06] handsome_feng: hello! Could you start by introducing yourself please? [19:06] Sure, hello,everyone, I'm handsome_feng, I've been an member of ubuntu kylin for more than 3 years, my main duties these days are the maintenance of UKUI and other kylin packages, my PPU application is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/handsome_feng/DeveloperApplication-PPU, and sorry for my poor english, I may reply you a bit slowly. Thanks! :) [19:07] #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/handsome_feng/DeveloperApplication-PPU [19:08] Questions for handsome_feng? [19:09] handsome_feng, I noticed that https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ukui-screensaver/1.0.3-0ubuntu1 was prepared before UI freeze and uploaded afterwards, can you explain how Ubuntu Kylin treats UI freeze and if this was an exception? [19:09] happyaron: I'm curious whether you're present for the application [19:09] yes I'm here [19:10] thanks [19:12] micahg_work: Yes, I understand the UI freeze: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserInterfaceFreeze, and this is aan exception, since I didn't find a sponner before the UI freeze. And I'm sorry for that. I will prepared the packages more early! [19:13] handsome_feng: Have you uploaded any stable release updates? [19:14] bdmurray: No, I understand the SRU prosess: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates, and because the formar version of ubuntu kylin only add some packages on Ubuntu such as youker-assistant, indicator-china-weather and so on, It didn't need an SRU. [19:14] handsome_feng: where do you find sponsors? [19:17] jbicha: I usually email to happyaron, and if not , I will fill a bug with the tag and subscribe the sponner team [19:18] * rbasak has a couple of questions if the others are done [19:18] handsome_feng: ok, I encourage you to go ahead and file the bug right away especially when getting close to Ubuntu release deadlines [19:18] someone else may sponsor it from the queue before Aron gets around to it [19:19] handsome_feng: do you know anything about becoming a Debian Maintainer? is that something you intend to apply for? [19:20] jbicha: I have read the https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/, and yes, I want to be that. :) [19:21] I want to apply the upload right for ukui packages [19:21] thanks, I understand. I think Aron can help you later with the process to become a Debian Maintainer [19:22] jbicha: Thanks, and I will try to learn more. [19:24] handsome_feng: I believe that if I install ukui-screensaver, that will also install ubuntukylin-default-settings because ukui-screensaver depends on ukui-session-manager. Is this correct? [19:25] yes [19:25] Since ubuntukylin-default-settings changes the default Firefox search engine, I find this result surprising. I wouldn't expect to install a screensaver package and have my search engine change as a consequence. [19:26] Do you have any opinion on this? [19:27] Our parter request this, and I think we can delete this, or make it suguessed. [19:28] Sorry for that [19:28] Don't worry, I don't expect the packages to be bug free. [19:29] I'm asking because I'd like to understand your own understanding of the packages for which you're requesting PPU. [19:29] If you wanted to fix this, how would you change the dependencies? [19:31] move the ubuntukylin-default-settings from depends to suggest, or just delete it [19:31] OK, thank you. That answers my first question. [19:32] BTW, the reason I came across this was https://askubuntu.com/questions/970219/123-sogou-com-trojan-horse-in-ukui-screensaver/970220#970220 [19:33] My second question: can you give me an example of something you may need to check and fix after you make an upload? [19:33] rbasak, I will answer that, There is an other way. [19:36] verify that the package builds fine in -proposed, test out of -proposed and monitor autopkgtest runs [19:36] OK thank you [19:36] I don't have any more questions. [19:37] Any further questions from anyone else? [19:37] Not from me [19:37] No questions [19:38] sil2100, jbicha: any further questions? [19:38] I'm good [19:39] just a moment… [19:40] Evening. [19:40] actually [19:40] UKUI is base on MATE. I worked with handsome_feng when UKUI was originally uploaded. [19:40] handsome_feng: you're not asking for kylin-greeter? [19:41] Yes, I think this time I already apply too much [19:41] He understands the relationship between the compoents well and I'd be happy to see him have upload rights for UKUI so they aren't beholden to seeking sponsorship. [19:42] Thanks flexiondotorg! That's helpful [19:42] flexiondotorg: Thanks ! [19:42] Thanks to jbicha for letting me know this discussion was taking place :-) [19:43] jbicha, cyphermox: anything further? [19:43] nope [19:43] can I have a few more minutes? I'm still thinking and looking into uploads [19:43] sorry for the delay [19:43] OK [19:48] rbasak: ok, I'm ready now [19:48] Hi, everyone, I'm Jack Yu from Ubuntu Kylin team. I'd like to support he have uploads rights for UKUI:). [19:49] jbicha: ready to vote? Or ask a question? :) [19:49] rbasak: I'm done asking questions :) [19:49] JackYu: thanks [19:49] OK [19:49] #vote Grant handsome_feng PPU to ukui-menu, ukui-indicators, ukui-control-center, ukui-session-manager, ukui-screensaver, peony, ukui-desktop-environment [19:49] Please vote on: Grant handsome_feng PPU to ukui-menu, ukui-indicators, ukui-control-center, ukui-session-manager, ukui-screensaver, peony, ukui-desktop-environment [19:49] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [19:51] I hate voting no, but I would like to see you do some SRUs first and it doesn't look to me like the need for sponsorship is holding Ubuntu Kylin back much yet [19:52] I encourage you to use other sponsors besides Aron, especially for the SRUs to have more variety [19:52] Thank jbicha, I will. [19:53] -1 please re-apply after doing some SRUs [19:53] -1 please re-apply after doing some SRUs received from jbicha [19:54] +1 [19:54] +1 received from cyphermox [19:54] +1, I would like to see some more SRUs as well, but currently I see no blockers in knowledge or skill [19:54] +1, I would like to see some more SRUs as well, but currently I see no blockers in knowledge or skill received from sil2100 [19:55] +1 as SRUs would get reviewed by the SRU team anyway [19:55] +1 as SRUs would get reviewed by the SRU team anyway received from bdmurray [19:55] +1 I consider happyaron's endorsement to be the key decider, given he has been handsome_feng's primary sponsor. [19:55] +1 I consider happyaron's endorsement to be the key decider, given he has been handsome_feng's primary sponsor. received from rbasak [19:55] I believe micahg had to step away. [19:56] That's everyone I think? [19:56] #endvote [19:56] Voting ended on: Grant handsome_feng PPU to ukui-menu, ukui-indicators, ukui-control-center, ukui-session-manager, ukui-screensaver, peony, ukui-desktop-environment [19:56] Votes for:4 Votes against:1 Abstentions:0 [19:56] Motion carried [19:56] handsome_feng: congratulations! [19:56] And thank you for your continued contributions, of course. [19:56] congrats handsome_feng [19:56] handsome_feng: thank you and keep up the good work! [19:57] thanks, every one! [19:57] Thank you all \o/ [19:57] handsome_feng, congrats [19:57] Any volunteers to follow the successful application checklist? [19:57] thanks, every one! [19:58] #action rbasak to arrange handsome_feng's PPU changes [19:58] ACTION: rbasak to arrange handsome_feng's PPU changes [19:58] #action rbasak to announce handsome_feng successful application [19:58] ACTION: rbasak to announce handsome_feng successful application [19:58] #info handsome_feng's application was successful [19:58] #topic Outstanding mailing list requests to assign === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Developer Membership Board Meeting | Current topic: Outstanding mailing list requests to assign [19:59] "Please add new MATE applications to my MATE package set" [19:59] flexiondotorg: is this still outstanding? [20:00] Let's move on for now [20:00] #info Carried forward [20:01] #topic Any other business === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Developer Membership Board Meeting | Current topic: Any other business [20:01] #subtopic Regenerate packagesets and create one for Ubuntu Budgie [20:01] Regeneration would cover the MATE request I think? [20:01] cyphermox: ^ [20:03] blocked on TB creating the Budgie packageset; otherwise I'd need to move some more code around in the packageset generation [20:03] we might as well really do it right once. [20:04] OK, thanks. [20:04] Does that cover flexiondotorg's request also? [20:04] cyphermox: I guess we might as well make a Kylin packageset too at the same time? [20:04] It already is one; I checked. [20:05] oh I see http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/packagesets/bionic/ubuntukylin [20:07] rbasak: it will cover flexiondotorg's request too [20:25] Are we done? [20:25] I guess we need to do endmeeting :) [20:26] Sorry! [20:26] Let's end the meeting [20:26] Assuming there are no objections to 18 December for the next meeting. [20:26] If there are objections, please raise it on the list. [20:26] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [20:26] Meeting ended Mon Dec 4 20:26:51 2017 UTC. [20:26] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-12-04-19.05.moin.txt [20:37] rbasak: thanks for chairing! [20:37] o/