[00:13] <chaospsychex> how do i get my printer working on ubuntu 17.10?
[00:14] <Sveta> install cups
[00:14] <Sveta> it has a web based interface for adding a printer
[00:14] <cuddlesquid> hello everyone, hope you are having a good day
[00:14] <bazhang> linuxprinting.org chaospsychex check their database
[00:14] <chaospsychex> Sveta, 'sudo apt-get install cups'?
[00:15] <Sveta> yes
[00:15] <cuddlesquid> chaospsychex, first sudo apt-get update
[00:15] <chaospsychex> how dget to the web based interface once installed?
[00:16] <chaospsychex> ok it's installed
[00:16] <Sveta> yes
[00:16] <chaospsychex> how to access the web based interface?
[00:16] <ninive32> http://localhost:631
[00:16] <cuddlesquid> chaospsychex, point browser to this http://localhost:631/admin
[00:16] <ninive32> put it in the browser
[00:16] <cuddlesquid> chaospsychex, also please https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/cups.html for small referance :)))
[00:17] <cuddlesquid> chaospsychex, might be few other things for you to pick out of that link that you might need
[00:17] <Sveta> that page is rather straightforward
[00:17] <Sveta> it asks to pick your printer name and model from a list
[00:17] <chaospsychex> it says printer not found when i try to add it?
[00:17] <chaospsychex> cups-brf?
[00:17] <chaospsychex> where is that list?
[00:19] <bazhang> chaospsychex, mind sharing with us the make and model of the printer
[00:19] <Sveta> chaospsychex: http://www.libregeek.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/9.png
[00:19] <Sveta> chaospsychex: and what bazhang said
[00:19] <chaospsychex> my printer is connected via usb. it's a lexmark x204n
[00:19] <crux_> anyone know if ubuntu can import freebsd zfs pools?
[00:21] <chaospsychex> does my printer have to be connected via ethernet ?
[00:22] <bazhang> http://www.openprinting.org/printer/Lexmark/Lexmark-X204n chaospsychex
[00:26] <chaospsychex> bazhang, so i need to install that ppd file?
[00:26] <swift110> hey all
[00:27] <bazhang> chaospsychex, there's a link to the lexmark page. did you see it
[00:27] <chaospsychex> i installed that ppd driver using software install. no cups will see the printer when i try to add it using the cups web interface?
[00:28] <chaospsychex> bazhang, i went to that page and installed the ppd file
[00:28] <chaospsychex> bazhang, it's not showing up on cups when i click add printer...
[00:29] <chaospsychex> am i missing a step?
[00:30] <chaospsychex> hello?
[00:31] <chaospsychex> on add printer what do i choose?
[00:31] <chaospsychex> my printer is not listed under 'local printers'...
[00:33] <cuddlesquid> chaospsychex, try unpluging usb and pluging back in
[00:33] <chaospsychex> cuddlesquid,  the usb or power cable?
[00:33] <cuddlesquid> chaospsychex, try both
[00:35] <chaospsychex> nothing
[00:37] <cuddlesquid> chaospsychex, unplug usb printer from computer, type tail -f /var/log/syslog , then plug usb printer back in, console should of reported new addition
[00:38] <cuddlesquid> chaospsychex, also after log run 'lsusb' can you find device on the list ?
[00:40] <bazhang> cuddlesquid, it's in a vm
[00:40] <cuddlesquid> oh :d
[00:40] <cuddlesquid> that adds a whole new level :d
[00:40] <chaospsychex> cuddlesquid, why?
[00:41] <chaospsychex> i have usb enabled in the vm machine setting
[00:41] <cuddlesquid> chaospsychex, might require some aditional stuff within the vm, all depends, ...
[00:41] <chaospsychex> do i need a device filter
[00:41] <cuddlesquid> aha it perhaps is not just by enabling usb within vm, perhaps Vm has special utility file that must be installed ?
[00:42] <cuddlesquid> i probably couldnt continue to help you there though :/ im sorry chaospsychex,
[00:44] <cuddlesquid> a VM always added an extra layer of work anytime i wanted to do something out of ordinary, like connecting a printer or such...
[00:47] <_Dejavu> I've recovered a few deleted *.mov files (originally MP4) using photorec, but unable to play em - "Could not decode stream". Any ideas how to get it straight?
[00:49] <cuddlesquid> _Dejavu, are you using VLC to play them?
[00:50] <Comnenus> I'm trying to open a spice console using virt-manager.  It says SpiceClientGtk missing, but it isn't.  Not sure what I'm missing.
[00:51] <chaospsychex> i changed the connection on the printer to ethernet. it's connected directly to my computer. Do i choose internet printing protoco
[00:51] <_Dejavu> cuddlesquid: VLC opens files OK, but no sound or video... files are between 200 MB and 1.4 GB
[00:53] <cuddlesquid> _Dejavu strange, I dont have too much experiance with video, just making sure you ran them with vlc, it is still possible they may be corrupt :/
[00:54] <cuddlesquid> _Dejavu perhaps maybe maybe, try mplayer?
[00:55] <_Dejavu> cuddlesquid: I shall
[00:56] <cuddlesquid> _Dejavu also a little digging, if you are able to alter some VLC settings,.. Video > Output > X11 video output (XCB) > enable decorations, enable video
[00:58] <cuddlesquid> _Dejavu, could try sudo apt-get install gstreamer1.0-libav and also check sudo apt-get install libthumbnailer0
[00:59] <_Dejavu> cuddlesquid: got newest versions of both
[01:00] <cuddlesquid> ok gotcha
[01:01] <cuddlesquid> _Dejavu, they were originaly MP4, now they are MOV ?
[01:02] <_Dejavu> cuddlesquid: yep
[01:02] <cuddlesquid> _Dejavu, hmm without properly converting them from MP4 to MOV they would not play
[01:02] <cuddlesquid> _Dejavu, I would assume this should play a big role into not being able to decode, maybe could try converting them curently from mov to mp4
[01:03] <cuddlesquid> just a thought :d
[01:03] <_Dejavu> :) sure lets see
[01:07] <cuddlesquid> Comnenus, can you check if this is installed gir1.2-spice-client-gtk-3.0
[01:08] <Comnenus> cuddlesquid: that's the problem, thanks!
[01:08] <cuddlesquid> Comnenus, welcome
[01:10] <_Dejavu> cuddlesquid: no luck either renaming or converting mov to mp4 using ffmpeg
[01:11] <cuddlesquid> _Dejavu, awe
[01:11] <cuddlesquid> _Dejavu any luck playing with mplayer
[01:13] <cuddlesquid> _Dejavu, is that the only error output, could not decode stream is there more before or after
[01:14] <cuddlesquid> there has to be a way to salvage those :d
[01:16] <_Dejavu> cuddlesquid: this is the only error, working on mplayer
[01:18] <cuddlesquid> _Dejavu, hmm after some digging, VLC might be able to repair corrupted .mov or mp4
[01:20] <_Dejavu> cuddlesquid: no luck with mplayer - same as VLC recognizes the length but no sound or video
[01:21] <cuddlesquid> _Dejavu, perhaps this https://askubuntu.com/questions/915162/repairing-a-corrupt-mov
[01:21] <cuddlesquid> _Dejavu several spots indicated those instructions in attempting to repair .mov or mp4
[01:21] <_Dejavu> cuddlesquid: happy to try, thank you
[01:22] <cuddlesquid> to .avi instead of mp4
[01:22] <cuddlesquid> so then it will be a whole new video extension on convert
[01:29] <_Dejavu> cuddlesquid: nope on both options
[01:38] <_Dejavu> cuddlesquid: well... thanks for trying dude, im giving up I guess
[02:20] <AssociateX> How can I disable my screen saver.
[02:26] <Toadisattva> which version/desktop are you using?
[02:28] <AssociateX> Um, how do I tell? It's Ubuntu 17.10.
[02:28] <AssociateX> I have not had to use CLI in a very long time, or tinker with anything, so I'm rusty.
[02:29] <Ben64> probably go to power or screen settings
[02:30] <AssociateX> Ben64, did that, and I did set "Blank screen" to off.
[02:30] <AssociateX> It still goes black and requires a password to get back the DE.
[02:30] <AssociateX> to* the
[02:30] <Ben64> then you must not have done the right thing
[02:33] <qih> Don't you usually need to set the Screensaver to <none>, then disable the power management feature also?
[02:33] <qih> I am using an Ubuntu, just not native Ubuntu, so can only go from memory
[02:35] <AssociateX> qih, I just "gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.session idle-delay 0 && gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.screensaver lock-enabled false"
[02:36] <AssociateX> I will see how that works.
[02:36] <AssociateX> I'm going to bed now. Thank you for the help people.
[02:38] <AssociateX> What is the bar to the left called, it has a few icons on it like a menu bar.
[02:39] <AssociateX> I see that it is called "Ubuntu Dock"
[02:40] <AssociateX> How do you add icons to the Ubuntu Dock?
[02:40] <AssociateX> s/icons/apps
[02:42] <qih> AssociateX: Sounds like you have Ubuntu default, and that is using Unity. That bar is the Launcher.
[02:43] <qih> AssociateX: Looks like this=> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/Ubuntu_16.04_Desktop.png/300px-Ubuntu_16.04_Desktop.png
[02:44] <junktext> AssociateX, basically to add a new icon to the launcher/dock, you'll open up which program you want to add, then right-click on the icon and select "Lock to Launcher".
[02:46] <AssociateX> thank you
[02:46] <AssociateX> I'm using 17.10 btw
[02:50] <junktext> Ah, okay, AssociateX. My instructions were for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. I'm not sure if the process is the same in 17.10, since Ubuntu switched the GUI from Unity to GNOME Shell.
[02:52] <junktext> Can anyone else assist AssociateX?
[02:53] <AssociateX> junktext, thank you, but I'm out of gas, I'm going to bed now.
[02:53] <junktext> Okay, goodnight!
[05:20] <freakyy> hi all. whats this software called again, opensource communication software which u can use to chat, voice chat and video chat?
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> freakyy: ring.cx or telegram?
[06:04] <ShekharReddy> what to do to make ubuntu ask for sudo password for every software package installation
[06:05] <ShekharReddy> everytime.. means that should not cache the password
[06:10] <Tin_man> ShekharReddy, this link might help >> https://lifehacker.com/make-sudo-sessions-last-longer-in-linux-1221545774
[06:32] <winsoff> can't click, can only type
[06:32] <winsoff> what's up with that
[06:40] <ducasse> !details | winsoff
[06:41] <winsoff> Yeah, I narrowed it down.
[06:41] <winsoff> Libreoffice crashing on some certain .docx took away clicks from the mouse. Pointer would still move.
[06:41] <winsoff> Had to kill libreoffice to regain clickability.
[06:42] <alkisg> Good morning lotuspsychje, ducasse, all :)
[06:43] <ducasse> hiya, alkisg :)
[07:27] <eagle_> Hi Guys, from last few days I am getting NO_PUBKEY warnings and all, cause of which I am not able to build docker images or try new stuffs on new installations.
[07:27] <eagle_> Error Like: W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the publi│(12:55) [ dabloom         ] [ jadesoturi      ] [ MonsterKiller  ] [ Shiba           ] [ zh             ]
[07:27] <eagle_> c key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 16126D3A3E5C1192
[07:28] <eagle_> How do i get this resolved ?
[07:30] <ducasse> eagle_: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 16126D3A3E5C1192
[07:35] <A_Pickle> 'allo all
[07:35] <eagle_> ducasse: After using the shared cmd, i get this error: W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 16126D3A3E5C1192
[07:35] <eagle_> Its the same error.
[07:35] <A_Pickle> ...that is literally the exact same problem I just came in here to discuss.
[07:36] <A_Pickle> I downloaded the SHA256SUMS file, and attempted to verify it with the SHA256SUMS.GPG signature signed with the two Ubuntu release signing keys.  It says it's a bad signature, and I'm using Kleopatra as part of the Gpg4win suite on Windows 10 64-bit.
[07:41] <alkisg> eagle_: what's the output of `apt-key list` ? Put it to pastebin
[08:01] <eagle_> Here is the link: https://pastebin.com/sZbmebwe
[08:03] <alkisg> eagle_: "W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release   Unable to find expected entry 'universe/source/Sources' in Release  file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)" ==> that's not related to key signing, it's a bad sources.list, pastebin your sources.list
[08:04] <alkisg> I tried the archive.ubuntu.com mirror in trusty 10 minutes ago, it worked fine
[08:08] <eagle_> alkisg: Will it be possible to run this projetc in the docker env?? GIT: https://github.com/instructure/canvas-lms
[08:09] <alkisg> I don't know that project and I'm not using docker, so I don't know, ask everyone in the channel instead
[08:10] <TsakNorris> i have problem with 17.10 artful. WIFI works, but not if i want to connect public network and give credentials through browser.
[08:11] <geirha> eagle_: a quick google shows they've made docker images for it, so the answer is likely yes
[08:12] <geirha> you can even see the Dockerfile in the github repo you linked to
[08:12] <eagle_> geirha: yes, it has a google image and fails to download, if build via Dockerfile or docker-compose, I get the NOPUBKEY error
[08:15] <geirha> ok, so it's one of their images that's broken
[08:17] <geirha> I suggest you report that as an issue against that github project, then
[08:22] <tatertots> TsakNorris: have you tried debugging?
[08:44] <naquad> hi
[08:44] <eagle_> q
[08:45] <naquad> after recent update cron lost MAILFROM support :( any chance i can do something to get it working again?
[08:45] <naquad> (/etc/mailname is not an option)
[08:50] <CobHead> use apt-get to downgrade to an earlier version of cron?
[08:51] <CobHead> Considering you know the version number of the previous version you were using, that is.
[08:51] <naquad> nope, i don't know :(
[08:52] <alkisg> I don't see any updates in cron. :) https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=cron
[08:54] <alkisg> `apt changelog cron` will tell you if there were updates there, or not, and you should be looking elsewhere
[08:56] <naquad> alkisg, thanks! going to check other stuff
[08:56] <alkisg> np
[08:56] <Aliekezhi> hi, currently, is it recommended to use apt or apt-get ? is there much difference ?
[08:56] <alkisg> Aliekezhi: not much difference, you can use whatever you like, but in the future only apt will be used
[08:57] <Aliekezhi> alkisg, thx
[08:57] <alkisg> np
[09:12] <PCatinean> Hey guys, i'm tring to get my 0bda:a811 Realtek Semiconductor Corp usb wireless adapter working on my Ubuntu 16.04 lts using this guide: https://unixblogger.com/2016/08/11/how-to-get-your-realtek-rtl8111rtl8168-working-updated-guide/
[09:12] <PCatinean> I tried the "automated" way but nothing seems to be hapening, can anyone suggest debugging this or?
[09:15] <alkisg> PCatinean: what's the output of `apt policy r8168-dkms` ?
[09:16] <alkisg> PCatinean: btw, are you sure this is the proper driver for your card?  This seems like it only targets pci cards...
[09:16] <PCatinean> alkisg, it may very well not be in this case as it's not pci :-s
[09:16] <PCatinean> thanks for helping btw, one sec for the output
[09:17] <PCatinean> https://hastebin.com/upuqugivoh.rb
[09:17] <alkisg> PCatinean: so, you already installed that package (meaning that you disabled support for other realtek pci cards, so just remove it!)
[09:17] <alkisg> PCatinean: first google hit for your pci id is: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2306417
[09:19] <alkisg> PCatinean: see this one first: https://askubuntu.com/questions/923222/how-can-i-enable-a-realtek-usb-antenna
[09:19] <PCatinean> ok let me remove that first, one sec
[09:20] <PCatinean> How do I even find out when purchasing a network adapter what chipset it is to avoid this kind of thing forever in the future? :))
[09:22] <PCatinean> alkisg, that driver is what worked on another device when I tried to enable it with monitor mode and packet injection, but here I just need stable connection so hmm
[09:22] <PCatinean> Why do I also need to blacklist anything since I don't have a wireless card?
[09:23] <alkisg> PCatinean: just this command: sudo apt-get install rtl8812au-dkms
[09:23] <PCatinean> hmm there's nothing outputed there so I'll reboot, brb
[09:23] <alkisg> Ignore everything else
[09:25] <PCatinean> alkisg, still not working :((
[09:25] <alkisg> PCatinean: you installed rtl8812au-dkms without errors and rebooted ?
[09:27] <PCatinean> alkisg, yes :(
[09:30] <PCatinean> any other ideas?
[09:31] <PCatinean> alkisg?
[09:32] <alkisg> Nah, I haven't used that card
[09:34] <PCatinean> modinfo 8812au | grep A811 does not bring up anything
[09:35] <ducasse> i have used that chipset, actually, got one right here.
[09:35] <ducasse> it's horrible :(
[09:37] <ducasse> PCatinean: i found one driver on github that tended to work better than the others, give me a minute and i'll see if i still have the url...
[09:37] <PCatinean> ducasse, thanks man!
[09:38] <PCatinean> The one from aricrack-ng works, I'll use it as a last resort but I don't think it's specialized in stability :)
[09:39] <ducasse> PCatinean: try this one -  https://github.com/Grawp/rtl8812au_rtl8821au.git
[09:40] <PCatinean> hmmm that's a year old I see
[09:40] <ducasse> it's been a while, i gave up on that adapter, but that driver worked better than the others
[09:40] <ducasse> might be worth a shot
[09:42] <PCatinean> ducasse, thanks, I appreciate it. I assume with every upgrade I havre to rebuild?
[10:05] <sIbOk> Does anyone know why file /etc/default/locale generated by update-locale does not set LANGUAGE and LC_ALL environment variables?
[10:08] <mike_papa> Hello. "snap-confine has elevated permissions and is not confined but should be. Refusing to continue to avoid permission escalation attacks" - since this morning. I've found some information about problems like this with older kernels. My current kernel is 4.13.0-041300-generic. Help!
[10:14] <PCatinean> Why would this work: https://github.com/aircrack-ng/rtl8812au on an laptop with ubuntu 16.04 installed with all updates
[10:14] <PCatinean> And not on a PC with the same ubuntu installed with updates
[10:14] <PCatinean> Since it's a usb device
[10:14] <PCatinean> ?
[10:14] <PCatinean> Makes no sense...
[10:14] <pandaadb> hello - on my dell xps15 I am using a usb-c adapter to hook up a second screen. This works beautifully however whenever my computer goes to sleep and I wake it after a while, my windows are rarranged (only the USB-C one, not the HDMI one). I was wondering if there is a setting I am missing
[10:15] <pandaadb> I set it to never shut down the screens thinking it was that, but it did not help
[10:26] <PCatinean> can anyone help?
[10:41] <rsv> I am using Ubuntu 14.04 LTS.  I am unable to install any package using apt-get install. i always get the message: E: Unable to locate package
[10:42] <rsv> However, Whatever package i try to install i always get unable to locate the package.
[10:42] <rsv> I have already given the command apt-get update
[10:42] <EriC^^> rsv: which package are trying?
[10:44] <rsv> Quite a few, lets start with u-boot-tools
[10:44] <EriC^^> !info u-boot-tools trusty
[10:44] <EriC^^> rsv: type "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999"
[10:45] <rsv> EriC^^: i get http://termbin.com/dwcf
[10:46] <EriC^^> rsv: try "apt-cache policy u-boot-tools | nc termbin.com 9999"
[10:47] <alkisg> also: sudo apt-get update | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:49] <alkisg> Erm actually this, to include any errors: sudo apt-get update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:50] <rsv> when i run sudo apt-get update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 i get the print http://termbin.com/e0bc
[10:51] <alkisg> OK that seems fine, what about the apt-cache policy that EriC^^ asked for?
[10:52] <rsv> the command did not print anything
[10:52] <vlt> Hello. On Ubuntu 16.04 LTS I have a SANE problem. When I use `scanimage --device="local_sane_uri"` the resulting file is perfectly fine but when I use `scanimage --device="net:localhost:local_sane_uri"` (or from somewhere else) I get corrupted file: "pnmfile: File has invalid format.  The raster should contain 8638784 bytes, but the file ends after only 8441664 bytes."  This happens *only* when scanning from
[10:52] <vlt> ADF.  Any idea how to troubleshoot this?
[10:53] <alkisg> rsv: try `apt-cache policy u-boot-tools` without termbin, and manually paste the result to paste.ubuntu.com
[10:53] <rsv> alkisg: i get the message N: Unable to locate package u-boot-tools
[10:55] <EriC^^> alkisg: i dont see the archive.ubuntu.com trusty main anywhere in the pastebin, just extras.ubuntu.com trusty main, any idea?
[10:56] <EriC^^> rsv: try "ls /var/lib/apt/lists | nc termbin.com 9999"
[10:57] <rsv> http://termbin.com/qxa0
[10:58] <EriC^^> rsv: try   grep "Package: u-boot-tools" /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[11:02] <rsv> EriC^^: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26111592
[11:02] <EriC^^> rsv: hmm it's in the list
[11:03] <rsv> EriC^^: its a freshly installed system
[11:03] <EriC^^> rsv: did you checksum the iso?
[11:04] <rsv> yes
[11:04] <rsv> EriC^^: i am connected to the network, is there any thing i need to do
[11:05] <EriC^^> no idea, if it's a fresh install something seems off, i wouldnt use the system or try to 'fix' it
[11:05] <EriC^^> maybe the usb was bad? bad hdd?
[11:07] <rsv> how can i re-install ubuntu through network
[11:07] <rsv> EriC^^: i dont think anything is off. because it boots perfectly everytime
[11:08] <EriC^^> you cant reinstall it from the network
[11:09] <EriC^^> even if it boots perfectly it doesnt mean something else isn't wrong
[11:09] <rsv> EriC^^: while install using usb driver, it did not complain
[11:11] <needzahelpPLZ> anyone on who can help me figure out how to make Xubuntu 16.04 LTS work with HDMI splitter? i have 2 computers connected one is running osx, which works no matter how many times i switch over, and the one running xubuntu says imediately no signal after i switch, also on the same computer if i run it with windows there is no such issue, so its definetely not hardware related, thx for any and all help in advance
[11:17] <ibmr50e> Yo guys. I'm trying to test lxqt so I downloaded Lubuntu Next 18.04 x86 image and tried to run a Live CD, but everytime I'm asked for a login and a password and neither 'ubuntu' nor 'lubuntu' seem to work. Tested MD5 image and tried on two PCs.
[11:19] <needzahelpPLZ> anyone on who can help me figure out how to make Xubuntu 16.04 LTS work with HDMI splitter? i have 2 computers connected one is running osx, which works no matter how many times i switch over, and the one running xubuntu says imediately no signal after i switch, also on the same computer if i run it with windows there is no such issue, so its definetely not hardware related, thx for any and all help in advance
[11:20] <Younder> why would it the screen output should be identical. Shouldn't it.
[11:20] <needzahelpPLZ> all i know is, it says no signal
[11:20] <needzahelpPLZ> as if no computer is connected to the display
[11:20] <Younder> When I wan's a psplit screen I use two ports. Or else a display port which is designed to use more than one monitor.
[11:21] <needzahelpPLZ> no its one display and 2 computers, not 2 computers and 1 display
[11:22] <ibmr50e> needzahelpPLZ, now im needing help here u go out
[11:23] <needzahelpPLZ> sorry what do you mean?
[11:23] <Younder> needzahelpPLZ, I actually have one of those. One connected to my TX1 and also to my server. But via separate ports. One via VGA the other vi HDMI.
[11:23] <needzahelpPLZ> i have both computers conected via HDMI
[11:24] <needzahelpPLZ> via HDMI connected*
[11:24] <Younder> This seems more like a hardware problem though than a OS problem.
[11:24] <needzahelpPLZ> how can it be a hardware problem when the same issue doesnt occur with windows on same computer?
[11:25] <Younder> Ubuntu has no control over how a monitor controls inputs over several inputs at once.
[11:26] <needzahelpPLZ> i think one of us is missunderstanding the other person, im just not sure which way
[11:26] <Younder> needzahelpPLZ, What? You have 2 computers or just 1. And does widows show up instead of ubuntu  or what.
[11:27] <needzahelpPLZ> its 2 computers and 1 monitor,
[11:27] <Younder> yes, and outpu from:
[11:27] <Rikem> Younder: So you're using some kind of KVM? Do you know the make and model of the splitter/KVM?
[11:28] <needzahelpPLZ> one is a mac which always works, but the other is windows or xubuntu running, and with windows running when i switch to the mac, and back it works but not with xubuntu
[11:28] <obtusetriangle> KVM?
[11:28] <Younder> Rikem, I am using unity.
[11:28] <obtusetriangle> Kunt Vagina Mammaries?
[11:28] <Rikem> Younder, wrong person sorry :)
[11:28] <obtusetriangle> it smells like semen
[11:29] <needzahelpPLZ> im not sure if its called KVM but more like a HDMI switch splitter maybe even HDMI KVM
[11:29] <needzahelpPLZ> here is my initial post>>> anyone on who can help me figure out how to make Xubuntu 16.04 LTS work with HDMI splitter? i have 2 computers connected one is running osx, which works no matter how many times i switch over, and the one running xubuntu says imediately no signal after i switch, also on the same computer if i run it with windows there is no such issue, so its definetely not hardware related, thx for any and all help i
[11:30] <obtusetriangle> i like sex
[11:31] <Rikem> needzhelpPLZ: Do you know the model? It may not support EDID which is why you're getting no signal
[11:31] <Younder> needzahelpPLZ, KDM is a separate window manageralso availabe with buntu. It should make no difference.
[11:31] <SimonNL> nothing wrong with that obtusetriangle but feeling the need to talk about it in here is.
[11:33] <obtusetriangle> SimonNL: your mom has a vagina?
[11:33] <Younder> We do ubuntu support or try to.
[11:34] <Rikem> The ban hammer strikes.
[11:34] <mbi> ...again :)
[11:35] <Younder> with 1200 people there are bound to be some stray's
[11:36] <mbi> sure
[11:50] <looping_> Hi. I have an aging Dell Latitude 32-bit laptop. I'd still like to use KDE Connect. Would it be better to install a Kubuntu and use a lightweight DE or to go the Lubuntu or Xubuntu route and install KDE Connect on top of it?
[11:53] <needzahelpPLZ> so... no ideas?
[11:54] <gbs-ufam> never used it
[11:54] <gbs-ufam> but i think that anything should work
[11:56] <needzahelpPLZ> looping_: i find that xubuntu or lubuntu works better in terms of performance on old computers
[11:56] <hateball> looping_: you can use kde connect regardless of DE
[11:57] <hateball> at least I think that is the case (I only use plasma)
[12:06] <alkisg> rsv: what's the output of this command? apt-cache policy apturl
[12:07] <alkisg> looping_: how much RAM does the laptop have, and which graphics card?
[12:09] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:09] <alkisg> Hey BluesKaj
[12:10] <BluesKaj> Hi alkisg
[12:10] <elfranne> how/where can i find a list of all default/base packages on ubuntu server 16.04 ?
[12:10] <alkisg> needzahelpPLZ: when the kernel boots, it checks to see if there's a display available, its resolutions etc. If for some reason the splitter reports wrong resolutions, it may fool linux (while windows might be more or less careful and avoid getting fooled). If that's the case, you can pass a specific EDID (resolutions list) so that linux ignores what the splitter reports.
[12:10] <elfranne> there is no manifest file for servers
[12:11] <alkisg> needzahelpPLZ: your /var/log/Xorg.0.log[.old] will have the edid information that the splitter sent
[12:11] <Ben64> elfranne: install 16.04, do "dpkg -l" ?
[12:12] <alkisg> elfranne: or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeedManagement
[12:14] <alkisg> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/seeds/ubuntu.artful/server
[12:15] <elfranne> alkisg, yes thats more like it
[12:15] <elfranne> thx
[12:26] <indistylo> FOlks , Dabbling with golang first time, can you suggest  how to fix this >> Godeps file does not exist ; issue
[12:26] <indistylo> not sure if is it ubuntu specific or golang issue
[12:28] <needzahelpPLZ> alkisg: https://pastebin.com/raw/bUvr68UU here is what i got, which is the EDID and is it posted wrong? how do i know?
[12:31] <alkisg> needzahelpPLZ: [    46.645] (II) modeset(0): EDID (in hex): and then [    46.646] (II) modeset(0): Modeline "1920x1080"x60.0  148.50  1920 2008 2052 2200  1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz eP)
[12:32] <mbi> Anyone managed to fetch a preseed file from a public SVN repo? Scenario; using boot from USB with a modified txt.cfg file, point towards a public svn repo where the preseed file is located. If I use an apache server, there's no issues. The installer fetches the preseed file and continues with installation. If I'm using the http://svn-repo/address/preseed the installation failes, stating it can't fetch the file
[12:32] <mbi> . So; anyone had any luck with fetching from public SVN repo?
[12:32] <alkisg> needzahelpPLZ:  So if your splitter reports that it supports this mode, yet the display doesn't, linux send 1920x1080 and the display displays a black screen
[12:32] <alkisg> needzahelpPLZ: if you boot without the splitter first, having the display directly connected, and then you connect the splitter afterwards, does it work "properly"?
[12:33] <PCatinean> managed to get it working in the end, don't know how
[12:33] <PCatinean> probably I made a small mess :))
[12:33] <alkisg> Put the output of `xrandr` to pastebin, without using the splitter temporarily
[12:33] <needzahelpPLZ> alkisg: no idea havent tried that yet, will try it
[12:33] <PCatinean> Anyone know how to install pulseaudio equalizer properly in ubuntu 16.04?
[12:35] <needzahelpPLZ> k will try and do that
[12:51] <needzahelpPLZ> alkisg: tried your sugestions xrand output https://pastebin.com/raw/Sp7PLPiH, also without spliter and then switching results in same problem, it doesnt show the linux DT even once
[12:54] <rsv> alkisg: Sorry, i had to go and i saw your message. sudo apt-cache policy apturl shows https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26112084/
[13:02] <needzahelpPLZ> one more thing is if i press the power off button and the computer shots down the screen comes back on
[13:04] <needzahelpPLZ> also if i go just to the grub menu and dont start the system yet, i can switch to both computers, back and forth without a problem
[13:09] <alkisg> rsv: it's like all your apt list is destroyed, even packages that are installed locally are not avaliable for reinstallation
[13:09] <rsv> alkisg: why could that happen and whats the solution
[13:11] <needzahelpPLZ> usually corrup file or drive
[13:11] <needzahelpPLZ> usually corrupt* file or drive
[13:11] <alkisg> rsv: if you said it's a fresh installation, just try to reinstall and watch out for errors
[13:11] <needzahelpPLZ> could be also dmged install medium, the disk or usb stick that you use could be defective
[13:12] <needzahelpPLZ> alkisg: did the info i posted above help in some way to come to a conclusion?
[13:13] <alkisg> needzahelpPLZ: try to gain access to the system while it's connected to the splitter. I'm using "epoptes-client" to do that, or you could also use ssh
[13:13] <alkisg> So that you are able to query the system (xrandr etc) while it's connected to the splitter
[13:14] <needzahelpPLZ> ssh it is i guess
[13:14] <needzahelpPLZ> will enable ssh on the machine
[13:14] <alkisg> epoptes.org is easier than ssh though
[13:14] <alkisg> ssh won't give you directly access to xorg, you'll need a few extra command to gain it
[13:16] <Ddorda> hey there. is there a place where I could find with which kernel every ubuntu was released? (at least for most of the versions?)
[13:19] <hateball> Ddorda: packages.ubuntu.com
[13:21] <needzahelpPLZ> hrmm i figured out if i just press ctrl+alt and F2 or any of the other virtual consoles switch to, and then switch between computers it works btw
[13:24] <needzahelpPLZ> but i have also enabled ssh so i can also login now
[13:24] <needzahelpPLZ> whats the next step that i can do/try alkisg
[13:28] <Blankspace> Hi
[13:28] <Ddorda> hateball: thanks :)
[13:29] <Blankspace> How to ensure java_home is pointing to proper java installation
[13:30] <Blankspace> Its showing error could not find java executable at
[13:32] <akik> Blankspace: you can set it in environment files in $HOME. what is the java app you're running?
[13:33] <Blankspace> Openrefine
[13:33] <akik> Blankspace: does it have a startup script?
[13:34] <Blankspace> Yes it says to type ./refine
[13:34] <Blankspace> To start it
[13:35] <akik> Blankspace: so, no :)
[13:35] <Blankspace> But when I type it it throws up that error
[13:35] <akik> Blankspace: you can add the JAVA_HOME setting in for example .bashrc
[13:36] <Blankspace> How
[13:37] <freakyy> whats this open source software called again, with which u can make video calls, voic calls and chat?
[13:37] <Blankspace> Gedit .bashrc?
[13:38] <akik> Blankspace: any editor, open .bashrc and add "export JAVA_HOME=" and the value of JAVA_HOME after =. then open a new bash shell and check "echo $JAVA_HOME"
[13:53] <Blankspace> Hi akik
[13:53] <Blankspace> My java path is correctly set up
[14:19] <LightAmaze> Hello, I am sorry if it is a dumb question, but is there any way I could switch from GNOME to Budgie on 17.10? I'd reinstall, but is my work computer with vital programs / files. I am new with Ubuntu as a desktop.
[14:20] <akik> LightAmaze: you can change the desktop environment on the login screen
[14:20] <LightAmaze> So I just install both DEs?
[14:20] <LightAmaze> and it lets me switch?
[14:21] <akik> LightAmaze: yes
[14:33] <LightAmaze> Ok, thank you very much. I appreciate.
[14:45] <fkkfn> i've upgraded ubuntu to 17.10 in a virtualbox, and now it hangs on boot
[14:46] <fkkfn> what's going on?
[14:50] <kantlivelong> is there any way to config/check mdraid spare groups in the command line?
[15:09] <mittens> hey guys.. when I type "my current location" on google it shows this morning an address in downtown seattle, a private residence with people living in it. I've been hacked before. Is this a sign of a hack?
[15:14] <auronandace> mittens: do you happen to be logged in to your google account when you type that? do you use location services on an android smartphone?
[15:14] <mittens> auronandace : no none
[15:15] <mittens> auronandace: on my phone yes, I turn on location services
[15:36] <freakyy> hi all. how can i, use my smartphone to stream video from my smartphone to my ubuntu laptop? maybe specific to netflix?
[15:40] <leftyfb> freakyy: why not just watch netflix on your laptop?
[15:41] <l0llip0p> leftyfb: That is a really good question
[15:46] <mekhami> why can't I ctrl+# in firefox on ubuntu
[15:50] <jluc> what is it supposed to do mekhami ?
[15:50] <mekhami> navigate to that # tab
[15:50] <mekhami> ctrl+1 goes to the first tab etc
[15:52] <auronandace> mekhami: when did it stop working?
[15:52] <linel> #tab
[15:52] <mekhami> auronandace ▸ not sure it's ever worked, i just installed firefox and tried it
[15:52] <mekhami> but i know it works on windows, and it works in chrome for ubuntu
[15:53] <jluc> same here
[15:53] <auronandace> mekhami: is this a default feature in firefox or provided by an addon?
[15:53] <mekhami> default feature
[15:54] <auronandace> mekhami: what ubuntu version?
[15:54] <mekhami> 16.04
[15:55] <auronandace> mekhami: what firefox version?
[15:57] <auronandace> mekhami: the firefox help says its alt+# rather than ctrl+#
[15:59] <jluc> yes it works !
[15:59] <mittens> hi guys, I just realized something else: I have  Guest Session that I can't seem to make it disappear under settings. When I click on it, it's just a mirror image of my current session. I tried to take it off using sudo commands I found online, but it asked for a password that is not for admin
[16:00] <RonaldsMazitis> hello, how do I know if my baloo has not crashed?
[16:01] <RonaldsMazitis> balooctl status is saying same number of files indexed and the number doesn't change
[16:01] <RonaldsMazitis> Indexed 24525 / 133972 files
[16:01] <auronandace> mittens: if you are totally convinced you are compromised then backup what you need and do a clean install. also please try to use some common sense insteadof following random guides on some blog without knowing what the commands do
[16:02] <codepython777> My nginx stopped abruptly    Active: inactive (dead) since Mon 2017-12-04 03:00:02 EST; 8h ago - any ideas on how to debug this? error/access logs are of zero size
[16:02] <mittens> auronandace, I just reinstalled my ubuntu two days ago
[16:03] <mittens> there's a guy in another chat who just sent me a threatening msg "Destroyer> .tell mittens Chucky the doll is coming for you" referring to a movie character that I've shared in irc chat that scares me
[16:04] <auronandace> mittens: my advice still stands
[16:05] <mittens> my info has been doxed so hacking may continue, I'm just trying to figure out how to delete the guest session,  and u are not answering my question
[16:05] <mittens> anyone who can help me with deleting with the guest session pls?
[16:06] <Lavinho> good afternoon
[16:06] <Lavinho> I've already been able to solve the problem.
[16:07] <Lavinho> I created the / EFI / Microsoft / Boot folder
[16:08] <Lavinho> and rename refind_x64.efi to bootmgrfw.efi and put the paste
[16:09] <Lavinho> and reboot refind
[16:09] <Lavinho> ;)
[16:09] <Lavinho> thank's
[16:11] <linel> Helpme
[16:12] <rfleming> Hi.  Is there an apt command for apt-cache madison?
[16:12] <linel> My one of my users in ubuntu not responding
[16:12] <Lavinho> say
[16:12] <rfleming> is it apt show?
[16:14] <rfleming> linel, by 'not responding' what do you mean?
[16:14] <rfleming> linel, please be descriptive.
[16:16] <RonaldsMazitis> nobody knows if baloo file indexer is still indexing files, if balooctl status is not changing number of how many files it has indexed
[16:18] <nate_dog27> Can someone help me with a booting issue?
[16:18] <rfleming> !ask nate_dog27
[16:18] <nate_dog27> Light Display Manager
[16:19] <ducasse> rfleming: no madison - yet. apt is still under development, though - add a wishlist bug
[16:19] <nate_dog27> failed to start, and also says it failed to start detect the avaialble GPUs and deal with any system changes.
[16:19] <rfleming> ducasse, show kinda does the trick, just very verbose :)
[16:20] <rfleming> ducasse, I'll let them work on it as I can still use madison.  I'm sure there are more important things needing doing right now with it.
[16:21] <rfleming> nate_dog27, you recently change the display drivers?
[16:21] <ducasse> rfleming: like an omproved 'moo';)
[16:21] <ducasse> *improved
[16:21] <rfleming> that too :D
[16:22] <nate_dog27> No, but I did make some display changes. I was trying to fix resolution on the login screen for my external monitor.
[16:22] <nate_dog27> O
[16:22] <rfleming> ducasse, apt moo works just find
[16:22] <rfleming> s/find/fine
[16:22] <nate_dog27> I'll post the two sites I used. The one that created the problem, and the one I used to try and fix the problem and failed.
[16:22] <ducasse> rfleming: yes, but they could make it _even better_ ;)
[16:23] <rfleming> nate_dog27, do you have a file ~/.config/monitors.xml?
[16:23] <rfleming> ducasse, I don't wanna know how :)
[16:23] <nate_dog27> I'll get a terminal up and check.
[16:23] <rfleming> nate_dog27, if you do, try renaming it and trying again.
[16:24] <gluon_> has anyone tested if this bug is still around after the latest bump in gnome's version?
[16:24] <gluon_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1731718
[16:24] <black_13> how do i show files are currently being access by a linux process
[16:25] <gluon_> that's seemingly an upstream bug: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=790008
[16:25] <black_13> what files i mean
[16:25] <gluon_> however, i only experience it on ubuntu 17.10
[16:25] <gluon_> fedora 27 with the same gnome version works just fine
[16:26] <rfleming> black_13, do you know the process ID?
[16:26] <oeuvre> great news!
[16:26] <rfleming> if s <PID>
[16:26] <oeuvre> i'm not wearing any pants!
[16:26] <rfleming> err... black_13 if so, pfile <PID>
[16:28] <rfleming> black_13, if you don't know the PID `ps -aef | grep <process name>` then run `pfile <PID>` on that process...  Say I'm looking for the process httpd, I'd run `ps -aef | grep httpd` which returns 34122, to which I then run `pfile 34122`
[16:34] <black_13> rfleming: thanks
[16:37] <rfleming> black_13, np
[16:38] <rfleming> happy trails
[16:38] <mar77i> I wonder how the 16.04 sshd_config was shipped without a trailing newline. I just locked myself out of the cloud by running a script that did echo "..." >>/etc/ssh/sshd_config
[16:40] <rfleming> mar77i, technically that command would put your line after the newline
[16:42] <rfleming> and I don't believe sshd_config needs to end in a newline...
[16:43] <nate_dog27> can't find monitors.xml mind you I'm new to linux. I forgot how to open a tty at start up.
[16:43] <rfleming> are you logged in?
[16:43] <nate_dog27> I booted using to the live cd ad did a search.
[16:43] <nate_dog27> Ya through the live cd.
[16:44] <rfleming> Ooh, Umm... that makes it more complicated.
[16:44] <rfleming> nate_dog27, quick question.  Is this a new install of Ubuntu, or do you have lots of stuff on it alread?
[16:44] <rfleming> s/alread/already
[16:44] <nate_dog27> new install
[16:45] <nate_dog27> fairly new. bar that one change I made
[16:45] <rfleming> nate_dog27, it may be quicker to just re-install at this point
[16:46] <rfleming> nate_dog27, I mean, if the installation was new and you had nothing of importance on your drive...
[16:46] <nate_dog27> I customized it just the way I like, took me days to get it right. I mean that being said it's still a new install.
[16:46] <nate_dog27> Really hoping to salvage this.
[16:47] <Jordan_U> rfleming: mar77i's point is that there was no newline for it to go after, so presumably what they intended to be added as a line on its own was instead appended to the end of the last line of the file, resulting in one long line instead of two shorter ones.
[16:47] <rfleming> nate_dog27, OK.  When you boot into your system without the livecd what happens?
[16:48] <nate_dog27> Just see the boot logo never ending, I got the menu where it shows what failing.
[16:48] <Jordan_U> mar77i: Are you sure that it's shipped without a newline in stock Ubuntu? That seems like a bug more likely caused by modifications made by your cloud provider. (Also, my 17.10 system does have a newline at the end of /etc/ssh/ssh_config ).
[16:49] <rfleming> Jordan_U: Ahh, yeah.  Didn't think about what would happen if appending to file with no new line at the end.
[16:50] <rfleming> nate_dog27, If you could press CTRL-ALT-F3 and see if that brings up a command prompt
[16:51] <rfleming> nate_dog27, if you cannot, then you'll have to mount up your disk and look for the home folder that way.
[16:52] <rfleming> nate_dog27, it'll be some place like /media/ubuntu/{a key}/home/username/.config/
[16:52] <rfleming> I think ubuntu is the username on the livecd
[16:54] <nate_dog27> Can I just use the recovery mode?
[16:55] <nate_dog27> Having problems with tty
[16:55] <rfleming> recovery mode should work.
[16:55] <rfleming> nate_dog27, this is 16.04?
[16:55] <nate_dog27> Ya
[16:55] <nate_dog27> log in on the command line.
[16:57] <rfleming> ok, what does `systemctl status lightdm.service` say?  Paste it to paste.ubuntu.com
[16:59] <nate_dog27> I did up top when I got the errors
[17:02] <rfleming> nate_dog27, you used pasted the log files to paste.ubuntu.com so that the errors you are receiving are as clear as day?  I only saw you mention "it failed to start." and "it failed to start detect the avaialble GPUs and deal with any system changes."
[17:06] <black_13> who do you find files that are older than a certain date?
[17:11] <rfleming> black_13, you would use the `find` command
[17:12] <rfleming> black_13, specifically the mtime switch.
[17:12] <rfleming> black_13, are you looking for files that are say, older than 30 days, or files that are older than December 4, 2014?
[17:34] <techtrix31> i have chatservices which is a fork of atheme and when i try to run it im getting daemon is already running and this was after a hard reboot..how do i check to see what daemon its referring too cause i dont see with system monitor
[17:41] <MrC> His problem was because the program writes a PID file after starting (which the cron script looks for) and would remove the PID file on exit, which of course it couldn't do because of the hard reboot..
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> MrC: he left
[17:46] <adrian_1908> "His problem was" kind of indicates that, no? ;)
[17:54] <frib> firefox is displaying pages incorrectly, missing text mostly. I tried reinstalling but no luck. what can I do? thanks
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> frib: ubuntu version and firefox version please?
[17:57] <Toadisattva> are you using 17.10? I've seen others mentioning similar issues
[17:58] <Toadisattva> can verify 57.0.1 is working great on 16.04 lts
[17:59] <dserodio> I have a problem with my ubuntuforums.org user, how/where can I get help for that site?
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> dserodio: explain whats happening exactly please?
[18:00] <gebbione> hi folks, i have a cam attached as a webcam
[18:00] <gebbione> but when i try to use its microphone it does not work on hangout or skype
[18:02] <dserodio> lotuspsychje: I'm trying to login using Ubuntu One. When I click "Yes, log me in", it redirects to ubuntuforums.org/login.php telling me "The The following errors occurred during your registration:  Invalid email address.". If I click on Complete Registration I am redirected to the same page with the same error.
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: you might know this one? ^
[18:04] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: dserodio join #ubuntuforums // The ops there will attend .
[18:04] <dserodio> Bashing-om: thanks, will do
[18:05] <Bashing-om> dserodio: :)
[18:09] <ducasse> frib: make sure 'download fonts' is enabled in preferences
[18:11] <frib> ducasse, i don't see this option
[18:12] <frib> "Allow pages to choose their own fonts"?
[18:12] <ducasse> frib: try that, i don't remember exactly what it says
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> frib: you didnt mention your version yet
[18:13] <mar77i> rfleming: technically it *should*. But what actually happens is that my script creates an invalid ssh config which then got me bad more than once (unable to log in)
[18:14] <mar77i> Jordan_U: could be, I haven't checked
[18:14] <mrhall> Hello, how can i execute a root command within root password? is to create a sh to init.d
[18:17] <ducasse> mrhall: please rephrase that, i don't understand
[18:19] <mrhall> i want create a script to execute a program each time linux init
[18:20] <mrhall> And i need do some like: sudo program rootPassword
[18:21] <mrhall> and save this script to init.d
[18:21] <mrhall> *on
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> !cron | mrhall
[18:22] <mrhall> this is like quartz?
[18:24] <Cheez> kind of, but far more widely understood and implemented
[18:25] <mrhall> quartz is so deprecated
[18:25] <mrhall> I use this on a project and i have a lot of issues
[18:27] <trdillon1> I have maas problem and the channel is dead. Can anyone here help?
[18:27] <ducasse> mrhall: you really need to pass the program the root pw like that? that seems sub-optimal..
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> trdillon1: perhaps the #ubuntu-server channel might know more about that
[18:28] <mrhall> is a ddns process
[18:28] <ducasse> trdillon1: you really should wait for help there. maybe try #ubuntu-server
[18:28] <mrhall> It remember my ip each 30 minuts
[18:28] <ducasse> mrhall: and it needs your root pw?
[18:29] <trdillon1> lotuspsychje: thanks
[18:36] <frib> lotuspsychje, ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS, Firefox 57.0.1
[18:50] <jandrusk> Is it me or are PPA updates via launchpad.net painfully slow no matter how faster your connection is?
[18:50] <jandrusk> s/faster/fast
[18:55] <alt0id> hi
[18:55] <alt0id> lets say i have a debian box running right now, and i have an unaccessable hard drive hooked up on my computer, i know the password. How do i access it from here?
[18:55] <alt0id> here = debian machine
[18:59] <akik> alt0id: not quite sure what you're asking, but did you try opening the file manager and checking if it's visible there?
[19:00] <akik> alt0id: if you don't have a file manager, use "fdisk -l" to see your storage devices
[19:01] <alt0id> akik: when i installed ubuntu on that disk i used the encrypt harddrive option
[19:01] <alt0id> and when i try accessing the home/user folder
[19:01] <alt0id> i get a mess
[19:01] <akik> alt0id: ah encrypted. sorry i don't know about it
[19:01] <alt0id> "Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop"
[19:01] <alt0id> and a readme
[19:07] <EriC^^> alt0id: can you pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" ?
[19:08] <EriC^^> alt0id: nevermind, just try sudo ecryptfs-recover-private
[19:20] <frib> firefox is displaying pages incorrectly, missing text mostly. I tried reinstalling but no luck. what can I do? thanks
[19:20] <frib> ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS, Firefox 57.0.1
[19:21] <alt0id> EriC^^: i can access it now, but how do i make it "ceartext"?
[19:21] <alt0id> how can i access it without needing to encrypt it every time
[19:22] <EriC^^> alt0id: remove the files out of the private dir
[19:22] <alt0id> o ok lol
[19:23] <[twisti]> i put my main user in the sudo group, as i understand, that will let me do "sudo su" if i must. any reason not to set a huge generated string as the password for root and forget it right after ?
[19:26] <ducasse> [twisti]: don't do 'sudo su', use 'sudo -i' of you need a root shell
[19:26] <ducasse> *if
[19:26] <[twisti]> whats the difference ?
[19:27] <Bashing-om> twisted`: opening up 'root' is generally discouraged in ubuntu . See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers .
[19:28] <[twisti]> Bashing-om: 'opening up' ?
[19:28] <genii> su requires a root password to be set, making the root account able to be compromised by brute-force attacks
[19:28] <alt0id> EriC^^: so there is no way of unencrypting that whole hard drive?
[19:28] <snowkidind> does this look like a normal access.log to you? https://pastebin.com/nnyvKi3Z
[19:28] <alt0id> i can access it, i cant manipulate that in any way for some reason
[19:29] <genii> sudo -i is superuser-do in interactive mode
[19:29] <EriC^^> alt0id: you'd have to copy to to another drive and then recreate the partition etc normally then copy the data back
[19:30] <alt0id> EriC^^: i only have 2 drives, ones that 500gb encrypted one with huge files and the other one is 80gb almost full lol
[19:30] <Bashing-om> [twisti]: By default, the Root account password is locked in Ubuntu.
[19:30] <[twisti]> im not even sure mine has a password
[19:30] <[twisti]> its a server that i set up with my ssh public key as default login
[19:31] <[twisti]> and the first thing i did after logging in was make a user
[19:31] <EriC^^> alt0id: do you want the whole drive unencrypted to just the home dir?
[19:32] <Bashing-om> [twisti]: Then that 1st created user can have root access. others you have to grant from that 1st account .
[19:33] <[twisti]> Bashing-om: it already does, i put it in the sudo group, that seems sufficient. im asking about whether/how i can further lock down the root account since as far as i understand, im never going to need to use it directly again
[19:34] <genii> [twisti]: The root account is by default locked out from logging in, and has no viable password.
[19:34] <[twisti]> alright, i guess that means its already locked down then
[19:35] <alt0id> EriC^^: either/or would be good
[19:35] <[twisti]> it did let me log in though, with the ssh pub key
[19:35] <alt0id> but i dont wanna type sh*t when i wanna access it
[19:35] <[twisti]> should i turn that off somehow ?
[19:35] <genii> [twisti]: The first user created ( normally UID 1000 on *buntu installs) has sudo priveleges by default, subsequent users do not
[19:35] <EriC^^> alt0id: move the files out of the private dir
[19:36] <[twisti]> genii: learned something new then
[19:36] <EriC^^> alt0id: move not copy
[19:38] <black_13> how do I mount linux directory so I can see it on windows
[19:40] <akik> black_13: install ext2fsd
[19:41] <alt0id> EriC^^: worked
[19:41] <alt0id> thanks
[19:41] <EriC^^> alt0id: no problem
[19:42] <Neo1> Hi!
[19:43] <Neo1> I want create ftp for users on server, How to do it? I used vsftpd
[19:43] <Neo1> seems it's not useful add users and folder
[19:44] <Neo1> I want to do like it is made on ISPManager, easy create users ftp accounts
[19:44] <Neo1> set username, password and path to folder, and nothing else
[19:45] <Neo1> vsftpd not handy thing
[19:46]  * Mathisen sends a note to Neo1 that reads "ftp is old and not secure please use ssh instead"
[19:47] <Neo1> Mathisen: if ssh use can execute commands, I don't want it
[19:47] <Mathisen> sftp is a thing
[19:47] <Neo1> Mathisen: see how to create use ssh user and he can only look his own dirrectory and nothing else?
[19:48] <Neo1> Mathisen: what is sftp I've read guide and there ftp with TLS/SSL
[19:50] <akik> Neo1: you can create a chroot setup with the included openssh-server package and "internal-sftp"
[19:50] <Mathisen> Neo1, well first i would edit sshd_config and add that lets say group "neousers" are restricted to /home then i would " usermod neo1 -s /bin/false " to restict bash usage and i would be done
[19:50] <akik> Neo1: that way the users can be limited to their home dirs
[19:50] <Neo1> Mathisen: no not home, to /var/www/site_name , I need this
[19:51] <Mathisen> well same thing would apply
[19:51] <Neo1> Mathisen: but it's take much time, in ISPManager I did it for a few seconds
[19:52] <Neo1> I need something that will time save, Seems some control panel?
[19:52] <Neo1> Mathisen: what do you think?
[19:52] <Mathisen> to mutch time ? 4 lines in a config then just add users as normal or even make an alias that do everthing for you
[19:53] <Neo1> Mathisen: In instruction that I've read there added many lines of code
[19:53] <Neo1> 10 lines not 4
[19:54] <Mathisen> https://bensmann.no/restrict-sftp-users-to-home-folder
[19:55] <Mathisen> after you done the cfg changes and restarted sshd and added the group you can just make alias for rest
[19:56] <Neo1> Mathisen: see imagine I created site for test, test.my_real_domain.com. and Client ask me add access to some folder to watch how it work, ftp access, I won't give him ssh to all server
[19:56] <Mathisen> edit your ~/.bashrc and add at the bottom " alias neoftpuser-add='your command or commands here'
[19:57] <Neo1> Mathisen: I used to use ISPManager and easy create there account to any folder, and what shall I do now, I don't know
[19:58] <Neo1> Mathisen: well, better learn how to create user in shell and do it anywhere then use determined panel, probably. Will learn how do it
[19:59] <Mathisen> Neo1, no one is forceing you to do anything use what you feel works for you, just wanted to point out that FTP should really not be used anymore
[19:59] <Neo1> Mathisen: I see many commands and don't know how to remember every of them
[20:00] <Mathisen> play around in a VM and learn, and it will come in time. one thing is for sure if you use GUI for everything and never try to use console you never remember them
[20:00] <dfive> hey guys, everytime a new student wants to learn how to build java program it kills the system damn!
[20:00] <dfive> :P
[20:01] <Neo1> Mathisen: ufw, vshttpd, apache2, mysql, node.js, nvm, and others
[20:01] <dfive> everytime they run in problems with java and different versions and nothing runs
[20:01] <Neo1> users, ssl key, openssl, I can't remember this all and don't know :(
[20:02] <Neo1> Mathisen: how to learn this all? More practice and with time I'll know it?
[20:02] <Mathisen> yep
[20:02] <snowkidind> how can i tell if my server is being used as an open proxy?
[20:02] <Neo1> Mathisen: or use good control panel?
[20:03] <Neo1> If I use ISPmanager I don't need now this all
[20:04] <Neo1> well, try now set FTP access to site directory and install wordpress, then will see what do to ahead :(
[20:05] <Neo1> Mathisen: I think maybe should wrote out on paper some command and learn it every day like we learn something in school until you have known it?
[20:05] <Neo1> or repeat installation every day until you've got strong skill
[20:06] <Neo1> repetition is mother of teaching... No exists other methods for learning...
[20:06] <ioria> Neo1, repetita iuvant
[20:08] <marcelod> hi there!
[20:09] <ibmr50e> anyone knows chat channel name and server name for i3m??
[20:09] <ibmr50e> its a window manager
[20:09] <EriC^^> !alis | ibmr50e
[20:10] <marcelod> I have ubuntu 16.10, and want to upgrade to 17.10 but apt-get dist-upgrade does not work for me :(  this is my output: https://pastebin.com/qbA5H6Xr
[20:10] <marcelod> any idea?
[20:11] <ioria> marcelod, why are you using   dist-upgrade ?
[20:11] <marcelod> what should I use?
[20:12] <ioria> !eol | marcelod
[20:12] <marcelod> thnx
[20:13] <ioria> marcelod, but if you want 17.10 i suggest a fresh install
[20:13] <ars23> Hi guys!
[20:14] <marcelod> ioria... so do I, but the startup disk creator does not generate a bootable usb-drive
[20:14] <EriC^^> marcelod: try using dd
[20:15] <marcelod> I get the iso image into the usb drive but it is not bootable and if by hand I want to do it, it crashes when starting
[20:15] <ioria> marcelod, use  dd  :    sudo dd if=uubntu.iso of=/dev/ddx
[20:15] <marcelod> block size?
[20:15] <EriC^^> bs=4M
[20:15] <ioria> marcelod, if you want, not necessary
[20:15] <EriC^^> remember to unmount the usb first, and "sync" after dd finishes
[20:16] <marcelod> EriC^^, how do I sync?
[20:17] <EriC^^> type 'sync' in a terminal
[20:17] <marcelod> sudo?
[20:17] <genii> yes
[20:17] <marcelod> thanks nice people
[20:20] <_geoff> hi, i have a pem root certificate file i need to install on an ubuntu server
[20:26] <Neo1> Mathisen: see what I've found https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-webmin-on-ubuntu-16-04
[20:26] <Neo1> seems it's not bad thing...
[20:26] <ioria> Neo1, wemin is broken
[20:26] <ioria> *webmin
[20:27] <Neo1> ioria: what does it mean?
[20:27] <ioria> !webmin
[20:27] <Neo1> ok
[20:27] <auronandace> Neo1: how long have you been trying to set up a server now? how many days?
[20:27] <Neo1> ioria: and what supported now ubuntu?
[20:28] <Neo1> auronandace: 3 weeks, but I do it last 4 days actively
[20:28] <Neo1> one week
[20:28] <ioria> Neo1,  if you would be so kind to clarify your real purpose, maybe someone clould help you
[20:28] <Neo1> just have trouble viruses on windows, reinstall all, and other troubles
[20:29] <auronandace> Neo1: you've even paid for a domain name without really knowing what you are doing...
[20:29] <Neo1> auronandace: it cost nothing )))
[20:29] <Neo1> I can buy many domains for 150 rubs for one year
[20:30] <Neo1> auronandace: domain cost 2.5$ for one year and digital ochean 5$, It's nothing
[20:31] <auronandace> Neo1: it didn't occur to you to try things out in a vm first?
[20:31] <Neo1> what is vm?
[20:32] <auronandace> Neo1: virtual machine
[20:32] <Neo1> virtual machine?
[20:32] <Neo1> now now, better use real server like digitalochean, I'm going buy else one domain
[20:33] <auronandace> Neo1: nothing is going to work for you if you keep ignoring peoples advice and refuse to read documentation
[20:33] <Neo1> auronandace: I'm reading, there much texts
[20:34] <Neo1> I read and can't figure out and remember all :(
[20:34] <Neo1> maybe shell help me?
[20:34] <fub> Hi. I got a new thinkpad x1 carbon and installed ubuntu 17.10. Touchpad works, but it needs some fine adjustments, is there any driver/config I can adjust?
[20:34] <Neo1> auronandace: I need shell yes/
[20:34] <melleb> TJ-: You helped me out with an ath10k_pci wifi issue yesterday. The hwe kernel wasn't working, but before I tried the bootable usbs with 16.04 and 17.10 I remembered you said something about hwe-next. Upgrading to kernel 4.13.0-17 did the trick. Thanks a lot for your help!
[20:34] <TJ-> melleb: That's great news!
[20:35] <TJ-> melleb: so there is a kernel bug somewhere then
[20:35] <melleb> TJ-: I guess there is
[20:35] <Neo1> I think I need shell, Its tool is made for automate routine work on server, impossible remember all commands
[20:36] <fermmy> Neol; Ansible will be your friend if you're getting into server maintenance/management.
[20:37] <Mathisen> a bit overkill to start with Ansible would you think
[20:37] <Mathisen> but sure go for it
[20:38] <Bashing-om> Neo1: Hint: No one remembers all the commands - no one .. make up a cheat sheet in your favorite text editor is one way to reference the commands you use .. and also become familiar with the installed  manual .
[20:38]  * Mathisen agrees with auronandace read documentation and learn how your servies works on one machine then try to scale it if needed
[20:40] <Neo1> Bashing-om: see I did this https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zi6Kh4G25x7tCPP35Kd56FMAvfGqlz1DdI2Mm3aIP78/edit?usp=sharing
[20:41] <Neo1> and will improve it
[20:48] <Bashing-om> !info mysql-server xenial
[20:58] <xz> hey, I broke my apt-get. I think some process in background was updating kernel and got stuck, then I killed it and now when doing 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' it hankgs on 'update-initramfs' https://hastebin.com/iteropujep.sql
[20:59] <xz> is there anything I can do to debug? maybe at least see where/how that 'update-initramfs' is stuck?
[21:01] <kamoricks> Hey. I've got a machine that stops booting at initramfs. Recovery CD says HD is fine. What else could cause this issue?
[21:02] <xz> can I drop that kernel update for example? and restart from scratch?
[21:05] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic zesty
[21:06] <Bashing-om> xz: 32 bit hardware ?
[21:07] <xz> Bashing-om: AMD64, I found some bug on launchpad, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1667512
[21:07] <xz> Bashing-om: I'm not sure if system is bootable or not as I didn't try rebooting
[21:08] <Bashing-om> xz: K .. let me see what that bug report says .. be back soonest .
[21:10] <xz> Bashing-om: I think the problem is that I have hanging 'cp' process that tries to copy some stuff into samba share. I cannot kill that process as it doesn't respond to kill -9. And I cannot umount the share as it is 'busy'
[21:10] <xz> Bashing-om: I just figure out that 'cp' zombie after reading bug description
[21:16] <Bashing-om> xz: Well, we can investiage that zombie theory . What shows - ps aux | grep 'Z' - ?
[21:17] <Neo1> what is use sftp or ftp?
[21:17] <xz> Bashing-om: https://hastebin.com/ayededarum.pl
[21:17] <Neo1> in this totorial sftp even easier set up than vshttpd https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zi6Kh4G25x7tCPP35Kd56FMAvfGqlz1DdI2Mm3aIP78/edit
[21:17] <xz> Bashing-om: so no cp in there, but cp is generally hanging (I guess it's not marked as zombie)
[21:18] <windymindy> Hello. I was wondering, if there is anyone who has manages to uncloud-init ubuntu cloud image to use it in virtualbox.
[21:18] <windymindy> managed*
[21:18] <Neo1> for sftp nothing install, it's default work
[21:19] <leftyfb>  Neo1 not true. sftp/scp requires an ssh daemon
[21:19] <Neo1> leftyfb: why we use vsftpd?
[21:19] <leftyfb> Neo1: I don't know why you're using ftp
[21:20] <Bashing-om> xz: delving deeper .. 2 zombies. 1st ' pstree -p -s 1648 ' says what ? to identify the parent .
[21:20] <Neo1> leftyfb: in this tutorial using it https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zi6Kh4G25x7tCPP35Kd56FMAvfGqlz1DdI2Mm3aIP78/edit
[21:20] <xz> Bashing-om: systemd(1)───avahi-daemon(1587)───avahi-daemon(1648)
[21:21] <Neo1> what is better use sftp and don't install vsftpd?
[21:21] <leftyfb> Neo1: that link isn't a tutorial. It's a laundry list which isn't supported
[21:21] <leftyfb> Neo1: depends on your needs
[21:22] <hydruid> Neo1: that list looks terrible
[21:22] <Neo1> leftyfb: my needs open user access to some folder on my site for he can modify some files and nothing else
[21:22] <hydruid> Neo1: What are you actually trying to do?
[21:22] <Neo1> leftyfb: for myself I'll use ssh, for somebody who will ask me I'll give access
[21:23] <Neo1> hydruid: trying to learn server, nothing do important certainly
[21:24] <hydruid> Neo1: If you have users who need to access the server, SSH would be best. Users can transfer files over SSH
[21:24] <Bashing-om> xz: think'n bout this // spawned by avahi-daemon tends to make me careful .
[21:24] <xz> Bashing-om: I think it might have been some sort of automatic kernel update, don't know exactly what it was
[21:24] <hydruid> Neo1: No worries, everyone has to start somewhere. I recommend that you decide how you want it to work, then focus on getting there.
[21:24] <leftyfb> hydruid: "for he can modify some files and nothing else"   # This part requires more attention
[21:24] <xz> Bashing-om: the problem was (couple of days ago) that I couldn't use apt-get as it was 'locked' constantly
[21:25] <xz> Bashing-om: so I killed whoever was keeping the lock
[21:25] <hydruid> Neo1: by focusing on a project goal, it's easier to get things done as there is a clear goal
[21:25] <Neo1> hydruid: I won't give them access to all site only to determined directory and without run shell command
[21:25] <xz> Bashing-om: it might have respawned back then (which would suggest systemd was trying to finish the job)
[21:25] <Neo1> hydruid: just imitate FTP
[21:25] <xz> Bashing-om: anyway, now there is not 'apt-get' nor 'dpkg' hanging
[21:25] <hydruid> Neo1: allow them to modify their home directory and nothing else
[21:25] <xz> Bashing-om: there is these zombies + hanging cp process in ps aux | grep cp
[21:25] <hydruid> That is the default configuration for SSH. Do you want something different?
[21:26] <hydruid> Neo1: ^^
[21:26] <Neo1> hydruid: I need SSH user that can only coppy files to server and read only one directory and doesn't see others
[21:26] <xz> Bashing-om: and I cannot kill that cp because it's waiting for samba share to respond I guess, and samba seems to be stuck
[21:26] <xz> Bashing-om: and I cannot umount samba as it's 'busy'
[21:26] <Neo1> hydruid: I didn't know it
[21:26] <xz> Bashing-om: I guess I could shut down or force shut down, but then I'm not sure if it will boot again
[21:26] <leftyfb> hydruid: default ssh allows a user to traverse almost the entire directory structure. They might not be able to modify most things, but they will certainly be able to see the contents of almost everything
[21:27] <Neo1> hydruid: see do you think this guide that I need? https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-enable-sftp-without-shell-access-on-ubuntu-16-04
[21:27] <hydruid> Neo1: take a look at this: https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/restrict-linux-users-to-their-home-directories-only/
[21:27] <Bashing-om> xz: If you know the right process .. cam always kill it gracefilly . see: https://askubuntu.com/questions/111422/how-to-find-zombie-process .
[21:28] <windymindy> Hello. I was wondering, if there is anyone who has managed to uncloud-init ubuntu cloud image to use it in virtualbox. https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/296236
[21:29] <xz> Bashing-om: 1648 [avahi-daemon] <defunct> respawns
[21:29] <xz> Bashing-om: or I cannot kill it as PID doesn't change
[21:30] <Neo1> ok, I won't use FTP and it install difficult, will try to use SFTP now
[21:31] <windymindy> Neo1: have you tried filezilla?
[21:31] <Neo1> windymindy: yes, but winSCP in a few times better, I use it, it allow instantly edit files on server without confirm load back
[21:32] <Neo1> windymindy: I used to use filezile, but now I use winSCP
[21:32] <Bashing-om> xz: will take one the more experienced here than I ... messing about with avahi-daemon scares me off .
[21:32] <windymindy> you can use filezilla server-side to create ftp server
[21:33] <windymindy> and access it from windows explorer
[21:33] <windymindy> it has accounts management
[21:33] <windymindy> If I were you, I would set up caddy web server with upload option.
[21:35] <Neo1> ok
[21:35] <FurretUber> Hi, my Virtual Machines are crashing when updating the kernel. The host is Xubuntu 17.10 and the guests are Ubuntu 16.04
[21:36] <xz> Bashing-om: let's say I just shut down that machine. Whatever happens, I should still be able to boot older kernel, right?
[21:36] <xz> Bashing-om: as odler ones don't get automatically removed
[21:37] <FurretUber> As a example, one of them was upgrading the kernel using the graphical interface: https://i.imgur.com/dPhFcrL.png
[21:37] <FurretUber> This is what dmesg logged: https://i.imgur.com/JArV2MJ.png
[21:38] <FurretUber> Some time ago, this crash in the guest would make the host problematic too. Now, while the host is kept stable, the guest stops working
[21:40] <jayjo> if I'm serving a site from a hugo build (golang) and it outputs to a public folder in my home directory, are there reasons I would not want to symlink the folder instead of copying the contents to /var/www each time?
[21:42] <Bashing-om> xz: I can not see why not .. might check and see what kernels are available to beeo up ' ls -al /boot/ ' .
[21:42] <Bashing-om> boot*
[21:42] <xz> Bashing-om: https://hastebin.com/diveruqepa.cpp
[21:43] <xz> Bashing-om: would you say chances of this booting up again are high?
[21:43] <xz> :)
[21:45] <Bashing-om> xz: Ouch ! No !! What have you been doing ?? .. should be similar : http://termbin.com/dhm6 . You have no alternates .
[21:46] <xz> Bashing-om: so if my regular kernel does't boot then I cannot specify another one in grub?
[21:46] <Bashing-om> xz: redo over .. ' ls -al /boot/ ' let me see it in a format I am looking for .
[21:47] <xz> Bashing-om:   https://hastebin.com/labiyitowo.hs
[21:48] <windymindy> Hello. I was wondering, if there is anyone who has managed to uncloud-init ubuntu cloud image to use it in virtualbox. https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/296236
[21:49] <Bashing-om> xz: Yes .. Sorry for my haste in the last look . You DO have 3 additional kernels that should boot :)
[21:50] <xz> Bashing-om: ok, I'm trying to reboot. Will choose lastest kernel first in grub, and then if that doesnt' work I will fall back to older ones
[21:50] <Bashing-om> xz: K ... depending on what happens is what we do or nothing to do :)
[21:51] <xz> Bashing-om: it's good to have a plan and some faith
[21:52] <TJ-> xz: Bashing-om not just vmlinuz - check there are full-sized matching initd.img too
[21:55] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Yes .. Had in mind to see what did result booting an alternate kernel . then make sure /boot/, /usr/src/linux-headers, /lib/modules/ are also consistent .
[22:27] <Richard_Cavell> Is there any word on 18.04 or is it too early to ask?
[22:28] <mutante> Richard_Cavell: https://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-18-04-release-features/
[22:29] <mutante> April 26 2018
[22:32] <Richard_Cavell> mutante: I see
[22:51] <Neo1> what does means user group?
[22:51] <Neo1> root:root?
[22:51] <Neo1> I've created new user test, which group it has now?
[22:52] <Neo1> test?
[22:53] <genii> Yes
[22:57] <Neo1> genii: what does means neo : root ?
[22:57] <Neo1> genii: group neo ?
[22:57] <Neo1> how many groups I have? as many as users?
[22:58] <Neo1> number of groups equal number of users?
[22:58] <Neo1> genii: you know?
[22:59] <akik> Neo1: the available groups in your system can be found in /etc/group
[22:59] <Neo1> akik: what group gets new user?
[23:01] <xz> Bashing-om:  hey, I've been able to successfully reboot and dpkg --configure -a finished with success also
[23:01] <kk4ewt> Neo1,  usually new users get their own group based on their pid
[23:01] <Neo1> yes I see
[23:02] <kk4ewt> open a terminal and type groups and it will show you what groups you are in
[23:02] <Neo1> kk4ewt: I can't figure out what folder shall I create for sftp
[23:02] <Neo1> owner should be root,
[23:02] <kk4ewt> anything in your /home
[23:02] <kk4ewt> no
[23:03] <Bashing-om> xz: Grat .. all then is good now ?
[23:03] <Neo1> no I want give access to /var/www/name_of_my_site
[23:03] <xz> Bashing-om: yes, thanks for help
[23:03] <kk4ewt> you never want to allow root to ever be able to ssh
[23:03] <kk4ewt> sftp is ssh
[23:03] <Bashing-om> xz: Oh I did nothing but hold your hand :)
[23:04] <mutante> if you want to just allow access to existing directories, you don't need to create any new "folders"
[23:04] <Neo1> kk4ewt: yes, I create new user test, and now need folder give root:root chown
[23:04] <xz> Bashing-om: you spent some time, appreciated
[23:04] <Neo1> root:root permission
[23:04] <kk4ewt> no you need to learn how to run a webhost
[23:05] <kk4ewt> to allow your user to be able to sftp into that folder
[23:05] <Neo1> kk4ewt: I leart it
[23:05] <kk4ewt> you have 2 different things there
[23:05] <kk4ewt> no you havent
[23:05] <kk4ewt> if you did you would have learned how to use web_public in your /home
[23:06] <Neo1> ok, continue learning
[23:06] <Neo1> kk4ewt: no, my sites will placed in /var/www directory
[23:06] <Neo1> each site has his own name
[23:06] <mutante> don't use root, create a proper group for the admins. let the files be owned by the group. add humans to group.
[23:06] <omgina> helllo
[23:07] <omgina> I installed a chrome extension
[23:07] <omgina> how do I find the binaries
[23:07] <Neo1> I want to reach this /var/www/test.american-chat.ru and put there wordpress
[23:07] <omgina> where are there. I got to run them via the tor network
[23:07] <omgina> pleaes tell me
[23:07] <arakash> I need some help. Audio stopped working on my 17.04 system. Tried rebooting but not helping. Thanks in advance.
[23:08] <Neo1> at first I want set up there sftp access and only for one directory, but I afraid if I change permission Apache2 won't work correctly
[23:08] <Bashing-om> !sound | arakash
[23:08] <Neo1> Seems Apache has root group, But it's not exactly
[23:09] <mutante> Neo1: Apache running as root = BAD
[23:09] <mutante> and i doubt it
[23:09] <mutante> it's more likely "www-data" that it runs as
[23:09] <Neo1> I forgot how I run it
[23:09] <mutante> use "ps" to find out
[23:10] <omgina> how do I find a file , it's phrase is ledger it's in home
[23:10] <omgina> shall I use grep or find?
[23:11] <mutante> omgina: find
[23:11] <mutante> if you are looking for file names
[23:11] <Neo1> for group /etc/group , for users /etc/passwd
[23:11] <mutante> grep if you are looking for content of files
[23:13] <omgina> mutante: I search in the super bar, and it shows me, so how do I see the location of that file that I see in the super bar, it's a chrome extension
[23:14] <mutante> omgina: sorry, i have no idea what the superbar is
[23:14] <akik> what use is of a "super bar" if you can't find the actual file?
[23:14] <omgina> in ubuntu when you press the super key, it's search bar
[23:15] <akik> omgina: if your file name contains "ledger" you can find it with: find $HOME -iname "*ledger*"
[23:23] <Neo1> drwxr-xr-x , in this d means dir, if '-' it means file?
[23:23] <Neo1> it's my directory for Apache2
[23:24] <donofrio> world, group, user for each read/write/execute column
[23:24] <Neo1> second xr means all users can read it and execute but can't write there and third x it's relate for who?
[23:25] <mutante> Neo1: no, "-" just means "nothing" here, as in "not w"
[23:25] <mutante> not writable
[23:25] <mutante> Neo1: third group is for "rest of the world"
[23:25] <Neo1> donofrio: yes, see in this example drwxr-xr-x , rwxr  relate for root? xr relate for all rest user and x for who/
[23:25] <Neo1> ?
[23:26] <donofrio> Neo1, what mutante said is right
[23:26] <Neo1> mutante: why there four letters rwxr?
[23:26] <akik> !permissions | Neo1
[23:27] <Neo1> mutante: see this screen, why there d and near other '-' ?? dash means file? http://prntscr.com/hj5gol
[23:28] <mutante> Neo1: there are 3 groups of rwx plus 1 prefix
[23:28] <mutante> Neo1: "-" means "not a directory" and "no sticky bit" and "no suid bit"
[23:28] <mutante> Neo1: everything is a file though
[23:29] <mutante> Neo1: "-" just always means "not set", but the very first letter is different from the 3 x "rwx" following it, for special purposes
[23:31] <Neo1> mutante: ok, probably, should learn. No first directory, you see its blue color
[23:32] <Neo1> mutante: other letter means permissions and first if dash it's file if d it's directory
[23:32] <Neo1> I noticed all directory has d at first
[23:32] <mutante> Neo1: kind of, except that directories are also files, but i am pedantic
[23:33] <mutante> Neo1: yea, it's not wrong, the d is for directory
[23:34] <Neo1> mutante: yes see http://prntscr.com/hj5j3j
[23:34] <Neo1> and other 9 letters is permission, I just though they separated by -
[23:34] <Neo1> - is not set as you said
[23:35] <mutante> Neo1: yes, there is no separator
[23:48] <Neo1> I understood, all folders are files and all files have permission.
[23:48] <Neo1> Root user is able to access all files on computer
[23:48] <Neo1> 3 kind of permission 4 read, 2write, 1 execute
[23:48] <Neo1> and (---)(---)(---), what does means other, who is other?
[23:49] <mutante> Neo1: any user on the system who is not the owner or in the primary group
[23:49] <Neo1> first its owner, second it's other user on computer and who is others? It's people from internet who reach your site?
[23:49] <mutante> Neo1: people who have user accounts on your system
[23:49] <Neo1> mutante: and any app in system relate to some group?
[23:49] <mutante> more or less, yea
[23:49] <Neo1> mutante: it's others?
[23:50] <Neo1> mutante: I think others it's now people who has account on my system, if you have account on my system you are relate to user, not to others
[23:50] <mutante> Neo1 yes, o for others
[23:50] <Neo1> mutante: others its who have nothing
[23:51] <Neo1> mutante: but see, how we determine others in real world? See seems in system each application has group?
[23:52] <Neo1> I know 755 for folders and 644 for files should be installed for wordpress site
[23:52] <mutante> Neo1: basically "grep -v ownername /etc/passwd"  all users minus the owner of the file
[23:52] <mutante> that's "o"
[23:53] <Neo1> mutante: what does means "o"?
[23:54] <mutante> Neo1: < Neo1> mutante: it's others?  < mutante> Neo1 yes, o for others   < Neo1> mutante: but see, how we determine others
[23:54] <Neo1> mutante: I use this for get list of users cut -d: -f1 /etc/passwd
[23:54] <mutante> Neo1: that works, yes
[23:54] <multifractal> I had a program lmms installed through apt-get. Then I apt-get removed it and installed lmms-vst-full (a variant of the first program which includes extra functionalities) instead, also via apt-get. But now when I try to start it with `$ lmms`, it says "bash: /usr/bin/lmms: No such file or directory". apt seemed to install it without errors, how can I find the new program to start it?
[23:55] <Neo1> mutante: but no, see first is owner it's who person who file is belonged
[23:56] <Neo1> second it's group of users ?
[23:56] <mutante> Neo1: try this to learn:  - create a new group "testers" or "pokemons" or whatever. - add 2 users to that group  - give write permissions on a file to that _group_ but don't change owner  - let one of the user try writing to it
[23:56] <Neo1> mutante: listen what the group? it's group of this user? If my user neo and group neo?
[23:57] <mutante> Neo1: yes, second is a group. it can be any group you want. existing one or make one
[23:57] <mutante> it's the group who owns this file, change it with "chown".  chown user:group file
[23:57] <Neo1> and which group belong file?
[23:58] <mutante> the one you pick
[23:58] <mutante> you see it in the output of ls
[23:59] <Neo1> mutante: let's break down this example for clarify,
[23:59] <Neo1> I created new file and look at permission
[23:59] <Neo1> drwxrwxr-x 2 neo neo  4096 Dec  4 23:22 new
[23:59] <Neo1> What can you said about this file, who can use it?
[23:59] <Neo1> it belong neo and group neo yes
[23:59] <Neo1> user neo can rwx this file