[01:12] <chris2> hi
[05:37] <ducasse> good (too early!) morning, everyone
[06:09] <Bashing-om> rebooting ... and I be back if all goes as expected.
[06:19] <Bashing-om> And all as expected .. so I be back :)
[06:20] <ducasse> Bashing-om: \o
[06:20] <ducasse> all well with the reboot?
[06:22] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Yepper .. but I just had to verify a procedure before I instructed to carry on .
[06:25] <ducasse> relaxing on the sofa, listening ti tindersticks. considering if i should try to install freebsd on this laptop today...
[06:26] <Bashing-om> I m fortunate ( or a glutton for punishment ) as learning ubuntu gives me all I want to do .
[06:27] <ducasse> i kind of miss the bsd's, so i'd like at least one machine running some variety of them.
[06:28] <ducasse> this one is nearly all intel gear, so should be a good candidate.
[06:29] <Bashing-om> use the tools that you use the best :) // Me I have a preference for AMD . I have the thought they have to try harder .
[06:30] <ducasse> i used to be a huge amd fan, now with ryzen etc i might become one again :)
[06:30] <Bashing-om> ducasse: But I must aver that Motorola sure nebt over backwards in it's day .
[06:31] <Bashing-om> bent*
[06:31] <ducasse> my fileserver is amd, has been ticking on for seven years without fault. about time to replace the mobo + cpu, though.
[06:33] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Same .. this box is 2007 - sure want an 8 core ryzen system .. last another 10 years ??
[06:34] <ducasse> i want a threadripper, to run containers and vms on :D
[06:35] <ducasse> do i *need* one? of course not :)
[06:36] <Bashing-om> I just want enough horse power to do what ever pops into my mind to do - for a while too :)
[06:37] <Bashing-om> ducasse: The CPU I would like to have in the Ryzen line is only about one grand USD :)
[06:38] <ducasse> my desktop is two years old now, but has okenty power for me. i7 4790K 4ghz, 32gb ram, 250 + 599gv samsung 850 evos
[06:38] <ducasse> *500gb
[06:39] <ducasse> *plenty
[06:39] <ducasse> damn, this laptop keyboard!
[06:39] <alkisg> Where are the biscuits? :D
[06:39] <alkisg>  /o everyone :)
[06:39] <Bashing-om> well ! It will do .. for sure . This ole dual core Athlon ( Abit board ) still flying .
[06:40] <Bashing-om> alkisg: Top shelf .- right end .. behind the dough-nuts :)
[06:41] <ducasse> alkisg: we're currently discussing the new amd systems, some look quite nice :)
[06:41] <alkisg> I've had issues with AMDs in the past, so it's been a very long time since I recommended them... hope things are better now
[06:42] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Was a big recall on the Ryzen chip set . Think they got most of the bugs worked out now .
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> good morning alkisg ducasse Bashing-om EriC^^
[06:46] <alkisg> Heya lotuspsychje
[06:46] <ducasse> iknow the usb stuff on the first chipset was horribly broken, among other things, but i haven't heard anything but praise lately
[06:46] <EriC^^> morning lotuspsychje
[06:46] <ducasse> i'm no hardware guru, though
[06:46] <ducasse> \o lotuspsychje
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: got an asus i cant enter in to format
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: F12 doesnt get me to boot usb
[06:47] <EriC^^> try esc
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: and bios options shows like a path to boot, but cant find usb there
[06:47] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Good morning . ducasse serving up the coffee and biscuits :)
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> lets c
[06:48] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: disable any fastboot stuff
[06:48] <alkisg> I've seen Esc, F1, F2, F8, F10, F11 and F12 for boot menus/usb boots
[06:48] <ducasse> every mfg uses something different
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> there's an option to add boot option, but no usb i can choose
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> shows only windows boot manager
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> fastboot and launch csm are disabled
[06:49] <ducasse> don't understand why they didn't standardize on something with uefi
[06:50] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: which asus model
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> when i choose 'add new boot option, i can set a path, or choose PCI(1F...)
[06:50] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: copy the grub efi file to the windows' path
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: F552C asus notebook pc
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> american megatrends 204 BIOS
[06:52] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: apparently enabling csm should do the trick
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> lets c
[06:52] <EriC^^> but i think you will be installing in legacy mode not uefi
[06:53] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: which usb are you trying to boot?
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: cant enable 'launch csm'
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: sandisk w10 stick works, used on other systems lately
[06:55] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: did you disable secureboot
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> yes
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> does it need a reboot for that?
[06:56] <EriC^^> i dont think so
[06:56] <EriC^^> try enabling the admin password
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> weird i can choose nothing like usb, cdrom
[06:57] <alkisg> lotuspsychje: so with the stick connected, if you go to  system setup (not boot menu, the real firmware setup, F2 or what is it), you don't see it as a boot option?
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: you mean the blue screen uefi from windows?
[06:58] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: it might be unable to boot from usb
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> ESC worked as boot enter as EriC^^ said, but no usb there, just setup & windows boot manager
[06:58] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: is windows installed on it?
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> yes, buts its corrupted at boot blue screen after 3min
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> hence the format need
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> when i choose boot options, does nothing
[06:59] <EriC^^> i would do ducasse 's trick, remove the hdd put grub.efi instead of efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi (after backing it up)
[06:59] <ducasse> has it got an efi shell?
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: yeah saw that option, launch efi shell from filesystem device?
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> try that from bios?
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> shellx64.efi
[07:01] <EriC^^> yeah
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> same blue screen as before, your device needs repair:
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> enter to try again, F8 for boot options, esc for uefi firmware
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> i think i need a path to usb to ad as boot option
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> ahhh
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> it worked!
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: enable CSM did the trick, needed the reboot afterall
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> now all boot options show at ESC
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> yess :p
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: your bank account number? lol
[07:08] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: pay him in ethereum :-P
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: you accept bitcoins?
[07:11] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:11] <ducasse> hi lordievader
[07:11] <ducasse> all good today?
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> hey lordievader
[07:13] <lordievader> Hey ducasse lotuspsychje
[07:13] <lordievader> Doing good here, how are you guys?
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> great here :p
[07:18] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: maybe it just needed the disable secure boot?
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: think csm did the trick
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: can i wipe all partitions at setup?
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> wont vanish uefi stuff?
[07:24] <EriC^^> yeah
[07:24] <EriC^^> well leave th efi partition if you want
[07:25] <ducasse> i'm examining the wonders of rEFInd these days, a much better boot manager than the alternatives...
[07:25] <EriC^^> but i think if windows 10 booted earlier then it could boot in uefi mode and install the uefi stuff again
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> oh its 1 big 1TB hd
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> installing :p
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> god i what i hate uefi..
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> hmmm an error occured to install on partition grrr
[07:34] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Hardware error or software error type ??
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> yeah seems like that hd isnt healthy enymore hmmz
[07:38] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: Did you check smart already?
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> no
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> ill try override with ubuntu later
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> if that fails, hd out
[07:40] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: That is the first place to check a drive's health.
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> might explain the blue screen error
[07:42] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: `sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX`
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: im in win setup, ill try live xenial in a bit
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu setup launched
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> hi Ben64
[07:47] <Bashing-om> Yall have fun with out me . gots to beddy bye \o
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> nite nite Bashing-om
[07:48] <Ben64> hi :(
[07:48] <Ben64> my computer droze
[07:48] <Ben64> froze too
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: what you doing mate?
[07:50] <Ben64> hanging out before i have to go to bed
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu setup asked to continue in uefi mode
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> now waiting for partition screen
[07:58] <ducasse> one cool thing i found in rEFInd is the ability to launch things like efi binary partitioning tools
[07:58] <ducasse> very handy
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu partition freeze here
[08:05] <alkisg> efi binary partitioning tools? Like which one?
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> lemme try with csm off
[08:10] <ducasse> alkisg: seems it comes with one, haven't tested it yet
[08:10] <alkisg> Ah, nice
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[08:20] <ducasse> it also comes with rescue tools for apple hw, as it was originally developed as a mac boot manager
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu installing now bbl work guys
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> tnx 4 the support
[12:10] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:13] <ducasse> hi BluesKaj
[12:15] <BluesKaj> Hey ducasse
[12:25] <ducasse> how's it going?
[12:32] <BluesKaj> fine here, ducasse, how about you?
[12:40] <ducasse> BluesKaj: well, my doc wants me to go to the er :(
[12:42] <BluesKaj> ducasse, sorry to hear that ...sounds serious
[12:44] <ducasse> that's what we don't know - he said it _could_ potentially be serious enough that it couldn't wait until i can get to him
[12:47] <BluesKaj> ok, suggest you tahe your Dr's advice then
[12:47] <BluesKaj> yake
[12:48] <BluesKaj> oops, I need an eye doctor
[12:48] <BluesKaj> damn spellcheck never worked on this irc client
[12:49] <BluesKaj> don't delay ducasse
[12:50] <ducasse> i'm trying to organize transportation now...
[12:57] <BluesKaj> good
[13:00] <EriC^^> ducasse: hope you get better soon
[13:02] <ducasse> thanks, EriC^^ - hopefully it's not that serious...
[13:55] <EriC^^> ducasse: yeah
[16:32] <pauljw> Hi everyone
[17:44] <immu> hieee allll
[20:12] <EriC^^> !ping
[20:29] <BluesKaj> !boo
[20:30] <BluesKaj> I expected !hoo