[00:00] <diddledan> under the banner of: "oh hello, Pot, meet Kettle..." https://www.androidcentral.com/google-announces-new-security-measures-apps-collecting-personal-data
[00:11] <popey> No wai
[00:11] <diddledan> I really should have food
[00:11] <diddledan> it's got to silly oclock and I haven't eated yet
[00:27]  * zmoylan-pi has a new christmas song to add to my yearly playlist... :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5nfznDwTdM
[00:32] <diddledan> oh that's awesome
[00:32] <zmoylan-pi> it's good, isn't it?
[00:33] <zmoylan-pi> country and christmassy....
[09:11] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:19] <zmoylan-pi> morning mammals
[09:20] <brobostigon> morning
[09:27] <SuperMatt> BLEEP BLOOP ENGAGE MAMMAL GREETING: Hello, world!\n
[10:41] <TwistedLucidity> I think we just found Maybot's alter ego
[10:46] <SuperMatt> BLEEP BLOOP ENGAGE BREXIT NEGOTIATIONS: CRITICAL WARNING: Interal logical inconsistencies. KERNEL PANIC
[11:33] <TwistedLucidity> Maybe "sudo dkms remove -m DUP" would help?
[11:33] <SuperMatt> Still wouldn't help
[11:36] <TwistedLucidity> Holy Moly
[11:36] <TwistedLucidity> BASH can autocomplete ant? 8-o
[11:42] <SuperMatt> what's ant?
[11:45] <TwistedLucidity> Apache Ant. A way for scripting builds.
[11:45] <SuperMatt> I see
[11:46] <diddledan> is it difficult to type ant?
[11:46] <diddledan> :-p
[11:47]  * Laney remembers the red alert ant missions
[12:05] <TwistedLucidity> Much lol. It seems to be autocompleting based on the targets in the build.xml. Which surprised me.
[12:07] <Laney> look at /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/
[12:07] <Laney> neat stuff
[12:32] <TwistedLucidity> From the CLI, can I test if a mouse is connected?
[12:32] <TwistedLucidity> (Integration in VBox keeps dying, trying to figure out why)
[12:37] <TwistedLucidity> Strange...using xinput I can see that it know where the mouse is; it just can't see the clicks.
[18:04] <diddledan> you know when tv or movies have a scene where there's someone stealthily approaching via commando-moves? how does the camera know where they are to film them when they're supposed to be stealthing
[18:04] <diddledan> ??
[18:46] <zmoylan-pi> they have ninja cameramen who follow people who think they are been stealthy... duh!! :-)
[21:37] <daftykins> oof that was a tough one - https://imgur.com/a/nUI5l
[21:38] <daftykins> just added a third, showing the ripped out plastic mount on the hinges
[21:40] <zmoylan-pi> don't you love designs that assume you've done this a 1000 times previously
[21:41] <daftykins> ooh yes
[21:42] <zmoylan-pi> i used to have a bunch of ast low profile pcs that cut the bejezus out of your hands adding or removing parts internally. even cables... so many sharp edges
[21:43] <daftykins> oof
[21:43] <daftykins> i remember AST, my dad got one of their laptops for his QS'ing department in the government way back when
[21:44] <zmoylan-pi> in the 80s they were quite good, then by the 90s the beancounters took over and they got cheaper and cheaper build wise...
[21:44] <daftykins> this thing needs an SSD and RAM upgrade now before it can be popped back into the hands of whence it came