[00:00] <Neo1> neo is owner he can, what can group?
[00:00] <Neo1> and who is relate to group?
[00:01] <Neo1> it's bad exampel now I change permission
[00:02] <Neo1> mutante: see this is better
[00:02] <Neo1> drwxrw-r-x 2 neo neo  4096 Dec  4 23:22 new
[00:03] <Neo1> it's owner, neo can rwx, ok
[00:03] <Neo1> What can group??? Who is group (seems  rw)
[00:03] <adrian_1908> group can rw, others can rx
[00:03] <Neo1> What can others (seems x)? But who is others? Others it's ... seems I guessed
[00:04] <Neo1> adrian_1908: and see there exist user with test : test he is relate for others?
[00:04] <adrian_1908> I don't understand
[00:04] <Neo1> and there is still one user with kkk : neo he is relate to group?
[00:05] <Neo1> adrian_1908: I mean how we determine who is relate to group and to others..  Neo is owner he can do this actions
[00:05] <Neo1> rwx
[00:06] <Neo1> Who is group that do this rw? and who is others ?
[00:07] <Neo1> assume we have users, neo : neo, test : neo and kkk, kkk , Who can do and what if we have this permission on file
[00:07] <Neo1> drwxrw-r-x 2 neo neo  4096 Dec  4 23:22 new
[00:07] <Neo1> ???
[00:08] <adrian_1908> by "neo : neo", "test : neo" etc. do you mean "owner : group" ?
[00:09] <Neo1> I think
[00:09] <Neo1> neo : neo is owner he is able to rwx
[00:09] <Neo1> test : neo is group he is able to rw
[00:09] <Neo1> kkk : kkk is others he is able only x
[00:09] <Neo1> adrian_1908: yes
[00:09] <Neo1> adrian_1908: I right understood sense of permission?
[00:10] <adrian_1908> If it is   d rwx rw- r-x     then owner can "rwx", group can "rw-" and others can "r-x"
[00:10] <adrian_1908> and kkk in your example can  "r-x" because it's not "--x".
[00:10] <Neo1> adrian_1908: and see above I correctly determined permission for given users?
[00:11] <Neo1> adrian_1908: yes you are right
[00:11] <adrian_1908> Neo1: I would do 755 for directories, or even 750 if you don't need others.
[00:12] <adrian_1908> group should have "r-x" or "rwx", not "rw-" because group needs "x" to view directory.
[00:13] <Neo1> adrian_1908: no, I don't know, I remember when I use shared hosting for wp sites, I was able to isntall plugins and update wp and when I moved to VPS I couldn't update plugins it's asked password
[00:13] <dG___> hello all. I'm trying to install a package from a repo but unfortunately the signature provided is SHA1 and `apt-get update` fails with: `W: http://download.newrelic.com/infrastructure_agent/linux/apt/dists/xenial/InRelease: Signature by key A758B3FBCD43BE8D123A3476BB29EE038ECCE87C uses weak digest algorithm (SHA1)`
[00:13] <Neo1> support said if you customize your server it will also work like was before
[00:13] <dG___> is there a way to ignore the signature?
[00:14] <Neo1> adrian_1908: well, now more clearly
[00:14] <adrian_1908> Neo1: Yes, 755 for dirs and 644 for files should work in many cases, if you don't want to do any experiments.
[00:15] <Neo1> adrian_1908: its work, but directory read apache app, if it doesn't belong to group he cant do changes there only read and execute not write
[00:16] <johnnyfive> I'm receiving an error when pulling a package list from a custom repo: "E: Unable to parse package file  (1)". Is there a way for it to be more verbose, perhaps spit out what it was trying to do or what line it failed on?
[00:16] <Neo1> adrian_1908: who is write plugin to my directory when I press button update, seems its apache
[00:16] <adrian_1908> Neo1: Yes, probably Apache, or PHP.
[00:18] <Neo1> adrian_1908: yes, and see if they don't belongs to group that belong file/folder owner they it means they are belonged to other and can only read and write (5)
[00:18] <TJ-> johnnyfive: check the lists themselves under /var/lib/apt/lists/
[00:18] <Neo1> it's also doesn't help, help when I put 777 rights
[00:19] <adrian_1908> Neo1: You could make a new group for that and give both neo and apache ownership
[00:20] <multifractal> I replaced a program lmms with another version lmms-vst-full with apt-get. Now I try to run `lmms` but it says "bash: /usr/bin/lmms: No such file or directory".
[00:20] <adrian_1908> Neo1: But I find this stuff difficult as well, I had lots of headaches with Apache/PHP/Wordpress, so I left all 3 behind.
[00:21] <Neo1> adrian_1908: I've just understood how it work, before I always though others it's imaginable visitors of your site )))
[00:21] <adrian_1908> multifractal: what does `which lmms` say
[00:21] <multifractal> adrian_1908: it doesn't return anything
[00:21] <adrian_1908> Neo1: others is anyone who is not owner or group, all of them are on your server, others is not from "outside" :)
[00:21] <Neo1> adrian_1908: yes it's not easy, but really customize server is interesting thing...
[00:22] <Neo1> adrian_1908: yes, now I know it
[00:23] <Neo1> I though Apache is always can reach my files because he is inside system....
[00:23] <adrian_1908> Neo1: Right. I prefer Nginx over Apache, it is easier to configure in my opinion, and very fast.
[00:23] <Neo1> adrian_1908: I'm going to try it later as well
[00:23] <akik> multifractal: run "hash -r" and then lmms<tab><tab> you can also check the contents of lmms-vst-full with dpkg -L lmms-vst-full
[00:23] <adrian_1908> Neo1: If you make ownership "neo : apache", and 775 and 664, that might work as well.
[00:24] <adrian_1908> Neo1: (apache is probably called "www-data" or similar on ubuntu)
[00:25] <Neo1> adrian_1908: see and we restrict access to our site only for determined users inside system, but how can 777 rights to be dangerous? Seems nothing inside isn't destroy something?
[00:25] <Jack3k3> hi all, im trying to copmile a c++ program but getting an error from one of the header files because an "#ifdef NDEBUG" is evaluating true
[00:26] <adrian_1908> Neo1: 777 is only dangerous if outside users can log in, right. But also, you don't want unknown processes on your system (other) to be able to write/execute your code.
[00:26] <Neo1> or if we put 777 any app can change this file, But this can be possible if this app will do it deliberately? How you can install there some malicious app?
[00:27] <multifractal> adrian_1908: the first line is the result of typing lmms followed by tab key https://paste.ubuntu.com/26115440/
[00:27] <Neo1> adrian_1908: ok, understood, of course better restrict access, but I think nothing bad if we put even 777.
[00:28] <akik> multifractal: how about "which lmms" ?
[00:28] <adrian_1908> Neo1: e.g. PHP might interpret URL, "file.php?do_action=something" and if you don't do safety checks, they might do malicous actions.
[00:28] <akik> multifractal: did you run "hash -r" ?
[00:28] <Neo1> I can't imagine situation when it can hurt my files, oh or see
[00:29] <Neo1> adrian_1908: or see other users can also reach this file, just he logged in and can
[00:29] <multifractal> akik: yeah hash -r didn't output anything either.
[00:29] <multifractal> "which lmms" also outputs nothgin
[00:30] <Neo1> ok passed this, difficult imagine...
[00:30] <akik> multifractal: so why did you remove the lmms package?
[00:30] <Neo1> adrian_1908: it's php backdoor
[00:30] <akik> multifractal: the lmms-vst-full doesn't have the lmms binary
[00:30] <adrian_1908> multifractal: Have you tried/considered a fresh reinstall, e.g. apt purge lmms … ?
[00:31] <multifractal> akik: oh so i need both lmms and lmms-vst-full, and i run the program by typing "lmms"?
[00:31] <adrian_1908> Well, if akik is right then there's your answer ;o
[00:31] <multifractal> adrian_1908: yeah i already tried apt purge
[00:31] <Neo1> adrian_1908: if there will eval function, I see this in bespoke site
[00:32] <adrian_1908> Neo1: Yes. I'm not security expert either, but generally giving as little permission as possible is desirable. Unfortunately CMS often make this hard by their design.
[00:33] <Neo1> adrian_1908: ok, will do as should be
[00:34] <TJ-> Running a web-server from an unprivileged container is a good way to shut off a lot of potential escape exploits
[00:34] <akik> !info lmms-vst-full xenial
[00:35] <akik> multifractal: do you have the kxstudio repositories installed?
[00:35] <TJ-> !info lmms-vst-server
[00:37] <multifractal> akik: I think apt installed it. But thanks. I now installed lmms and lmms-vst-full and everything's working OK -I'm able to play .dll VST plugins.
[00:37] <akik> multifractal: which wine bridge do you use?
[00:37] <adrian_1908> Sounds good. (no pun intended)
[00:38] <multifractal> akik: I don't really know much about Wine, I just followed these instructions first http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/how-to-add-wine-repository-ubuntu
[00:39] <akik> multifractal: i mean in lmms, how do you enable the dll plugin?
[00:41] <multifractal> akik: Oh, there's an instrument called "VeSTige", which has a little file open dialogue which allows you to navigate to .dlls on disk. Remarkable! I've been using FL Studio on Win7 but I've been wanting to move my music life into Linux. It's the last thing I still use Win for. Looks like LMMS uses a lot of design cues from FL, so that's convenient.
[00:41] <akik> multifractal: i'm using ardour with carla rack plugin but it has some issues
[00:43] <akik> multifractal: it doesn't remember the vst dll that i loaded into it
[00:45] <multifractal> akik: Cool. I'll investigate that too. That bug sounds annoying. The next challenge will be to see how it copes with sophisticated VSTs like my drum program BFD, and my 8in8out USB interface. It already happily detected my Akai MPK49 midi keyboard/controller.
[01:11] <Whitor> Hi all.  I'm not sure if this is appropriate for this channel, but figgured I'd ask anyway... Clonezilla... I want to clone a 64GB  partition (My OS partition (on a 500gbdisk)) to a 128GB SSD... clonezilla keeps complaining that the destination disk is too small.  How do I put a partiton from a large disk onto a smaller disk (but bigger than the partiton being cloned)?
[01:11] <Whitor> Did that makes sense?
[01:12] <johnnyfive> TJ-, Thanks, that led me down the correct path (weird packages error)
[01:13] <Whitor> I started by cloning just the partitions (a 100mb boot and the 64gb OS),    not the whole drive
[01:13] <PTNapivoski> Whitor: DD?
[01:14] <Whitor> PTNapivoski, that might work, but I'm not as comfortable with it as I am with clonezilla.
[01:15] <BLZbubba> anyone here familiar with power settings?  when i set "Put computer to sleep when inactive for:" in the control center, which process is responsible for putting the computer to sleep?
[01:15] <Whitor> But I'm willing to give it a shot... I'm looking to put  sda1 and sda2 onto sdb1 and sdb2   ..... but I need the partition table created the same
[01:15] <TJ-> Whitor: if the source is a partition of 64GB, is there a 64GB partition for it (or free space) on the destination?
[01:16] <Whitor> TJ-, yes, the source is 64gb, and the destiantion is 180gb
[01:17] <Whitor> but the source is part of a larger drive... which I didn't think would matter, but clonezilla seems to get upset about it
[01:17] <TJ-> Whitor: how can you have a 180GB partition on a 128MB SSD?
[01:18] <Whitor> TJ-, It is a 180GB SSD the 128 was a typo
[01:18] <Whitor> regardless... the source partition is 64gb
[01:18] <TJ-> Whitor: OK, so is the SSD currently unpartitioned?
[01:19] <TJ-> Whitor: i don't use clonezilla but I wonder if it requires a partition on the destination to write into, rather than creating one itself.
[01:19] <Whitor> TJ-, it has a partiton table, but it can (and probably should be) overwritten with the source partition info
[01:19] <BLZbubba> what are you trying to do?
[01:20] <BLZbubba> if you want to copy sda to sdb just do: cat /dev/sda > /dev/sdb
[01:20] <BLZbubba> and then partprobe /dev/sdb
[01:21] <Whitor> I have a 64gb partiton on a 500gb drive... I want to put this partition on a 180GB disk
[01:21] <Whitor> in a nutshell...
[01:21] <TJ-> Whitor: I'm reading in Clonezilla tips: "Clonezilla is unable to create a partition to restore an image. If you deleted the target partition or are installing on an empty disk, create the partition before restoring an image"
[01:22] <BLZbubba> just use cat
[01:22] <Whitor> BLZbubba, I think I like your angle here
[01:22] <BLZbubba> create a partition on the 180gb drive that is = or > than the source partition
[01:22] <Whitor> done
[01:23] <BLZbubba> and then e.g. cat /dev/sda11 > /dev/sdb44 (replace 11 and 44 with the appropriate partition numbers)
[01:23] <BLZbubba> make a backup first of course
[01:23] <Whitor> got it
[01:23] <BLZbubba> unless you are feeling lucky
[01:23] <BLZbubba> if you want to monitor progress, install pv
[01:23] <BLZbubba> e.g.: cat /dev/sda11 | pv > /dev/sdb44
[01:23] <Whitor> pipe it throug pv
[01:23] <BLZbubba> ya the pipe viewer
[01:23] <Whitor> got it
[01:24] <TJ-> or you can use dd status=progress ...
[01:24] <BLZbubba> it just prints bandwidth and bytes copied to stderr so you can see what's up
[01:24] <BLZbubba> ya dd is good too
[01:24] <Whitor> dd is basically the same thing with different syntax, no?
[01:25] <Whitor> I'm good with either
[01:25] <BLZbubba> dd has many more options
[01:25] <TJ-> I prefer 'dd' since I can set the internal buffer size optimal for the devices. Usually I set something like "bs=200M"
[01:25] <BLZbubba> depends how OCD you are :D
[01:26] <BLZbubba> what kind of ssds are you using, just curious
[01:26] <Whitor> rather than creating the partition structure first on the destination... can I creat it on the fly so it is sized exaclty the same as the original?
[01:26] <Whitor> intel ssd
[01:27] <BLZbubba> which one
[01:27] <Whitor> 6gb/s ... one of my users needed a bigger hd for his laptop... so I get his old one :)
[01:27] <TJ-> Whitor: no, you'd need to create the partition table on the destination first
[01:28] <Whitor> I'll have to go look... its in my office
[01:28] <Whitor> TJ-, thats what I like about clonezilla... it creates the partitions exaclty the same...
[01:29] <BLZbubba> Whitor: you can only get away with it if you're doing sda1, and then you'd have some cleanup to do, so just create the same sized partition
[01:30] <Whitor> its a windows os on the drive, so there is a stupid 100mb boot partition in front of the 64gb main partition
[01:31] <ponyride1> nothing wrong with that
[01:31] <BLZbubba> if you ever want to boot from it maybe it would be good to copy it too... why not
[01:32] <BLZbubba> so then something like: dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=1048576 count=71680
[01:32] <BLZbubba> that is ~70GB, just to be safe
[01:33] <BLZbubba> and then check the sdb partition table when it's done, e.g. nuke extra partitions and/or fix the secondary gpt header
[01:34] <BLZbubba> did i mention that you probably want to back up the original first just in case?
[01:35] <TJ-> For a copy operation? why do 2 copies?
[01:36] <BLZbubba> paranoia
[01:37] <Whitor> the ssd can be nuked, and the original has been cloned to an image already
[01:37] <TJ-> Whitor: you say you're moving a Windows OS install to a different device? I'm not sure if Windows still has this limitation, but in te past the bootloader side was tied to the originally installed storage-device controller and storage device. So, ensure you fully test the target can boot/shutdown cleanly before deleting the original OS from the 500GB drive
[01:39] <rfleming> Greetings.  17.10 with network-manager-openconnect-gnome seems to be completely ignoring the manual DNS server settings I input.  After connecting to the VPN and running `nmcli device show vpn0` shows no entries for IPV4.DNS
[01:39] <Whitor> TJ-, thanks for the concern. I do have an image of the original that won't get deleted until we are back up and stable.  I'm familiar with re-registering a disk with windows and rebuilding the mbr
[01:39] <ponyride1> BLZbubba: sorry how is that 70G
[01:40] <Whitor> I was just being lazy and wanted clonezilla to do the partitioning for me.
[01:40] <BLZbubba> is my math off, it was supposed to be 70,000 MB
[01:40] <BLZbubba> or so
[01:40] <Whitor> i'll just fdisk /dev/sda and then -p and write it down exaclty
[01:40] <BLZbubba> maybe a GB/MB/GiB/MiB mismatch or two
[01:41] <akik> BLZbubba: no it's exact, MiB
[01:42] <BLZbubba> there is a first time for everything :D
[01:43] <ponyride1> calc "(1048576*71680)/8"
[01:43] <nolsen> I'm trying to livecd my friend's computer, and I keep getting a blank screen w/ blinking line, could this have to do with his nvidia SLI setup?
[01:43] <TJ-> Whitor: one thing to watch out for, if you're copying sector offsets for the partitions. Ensure that the logical sector sizes are the SAME on both devices. If one device has larger than 512-byte logical sectors it'll throw things out
[01:43] <ponyride1> 9395240960
[01:44] <ponyride1> 9395240960 BYTES
[01:44] <Whitor> TJ-, yet another reason why I like tools like clonezilla
[01:44] <akik> ponyride1: it's using 1 MiB blocks and 71680 is equal to 70 GiB
[01:44] <TJ-> Whitor: well, use it then... just read the docs first, or experiment. It's jsut that we don't use it so can't really help with the issue with CZ you reported
[01:45] <ponyride1> No you didnt specify 'm' on the end
[01:46] <ponyride1> rather... 'M' for Mib
[01:46] <akik> ponyride1: the big value is bytes
[01:46] <nolsen> I'm trying to livecd my friend's computer, and I keep getting a blank screen w/ blinking line, could this have to do with his nvidia SLI setup?
[01:46] <akik> ponyride1: bs=1048576 <- bytes
[01:47] <ponyride1> i see
[01:47] <Whitor> I'll just create the partition table manually...  I just want to dd if=/dev/sda1  of=/dev/sdb1   then sda2 -> sdb2
[01:48] <Whitor> I don't know what  bs=1048576 count=71680  is
[01:48] <Whitor> byte sectors I'm guessing
[01:49] <akik> Whitor: it's 70 GiB
[01:49] <TJ-> Whitor: 71,680 blocks of size 1048576 bytes
[01:50] <Whitor> thanks for the ideas!   dd (or even cat) is much sexier than clonezilla.
[01:52] <PTNapivoski> I think you can use bs=1M...
[01:52] <Whitor> do I have to define 'bs' at all?
[01:53] <PTNapivoski> Whitor: I think the default value is 512...
[01:53] <TJ-> Whitor: as I said earlier, the larger the value of bs the faster and more efficient the transfer will be.
[01:53] <Whitor> TJ-, I see... so it's not a make it or break it thing...
[01:53] <TJ-> Whitor: for large transfers I useually set it it to a large fraction of available RAM, e.g. 150M up to 2G
[01:54] <TJ-> Whitor: 'bs' controls the size of the RAM buffers being used to 'suck' the data in a continuous read operation from the source, and then 'blow' it back out in a continuous write operation to the target
[01:55] <Whitor> now you are talking dirty
[01:55] <TJ-> Whitor: with default 512 bytes it'll take maybe 100 times as long as 150M for example
[01:55] <TJ-> no, it's like a vacuum cleaner
[01:57] <TJ-> Whitor: it's especially helpful when doing a read of the source and destination to generate a hash to ensure data transferred without corruption
[01:58] <Whitor> TJ-, what tool would I use to make a hash of a partition?
[01:58] <Whitor> being lazy here... I'm sure I cold google that
[01:58] <TJ-> Whitor: I use something like "dd if=/dev/sda bs=200M status=progress |  sha256sum
[02:00] <dG___> hello all. I'm trying to install a package from a repo but unfortunately the signature provided is SHA1 and `apt-get update` fails with: `W: http://download.newrelic.com/infrastructure_agent/linux/apt/dists/xenial/InRelease: Signature by key A758B3FBCD43BE8D123A3476BB29EE038ECCE87C uses weak digest algorithm (SHA1)`
[02:00] <dG___> is there a way to ignore the signature?
[02:00] <Whitor> How about I just use DD and Pray? ... then let windows clean itself up with a chkdsk?
[02:01] <TJ-> Whitor: if you can afford for there to be random errors in any files in the target
[02:01] <TJ-> Whitor: these are things chkdsk may not/cannot find.
[02:01] <Whitor> thanks again TJ- , BLZbubba, PTNapivoski,
[02:02] <TJ-> dG___: Does it fail, or just warn?
[02:02] <PTNapivoski> Whitor: You are wellcome...
[02:02] <dG___> TJ-: gsil
[02:02] <TJ-> dG___: I think the "W" prefix is a warning only
[02:02] <dG___> *fail
[02:02] <dG___> it fails when I do `apt-get update`
[02:02] <dG___> and can't install a package from that repo
[02:05] <TJ-> dG___: you may be able to use the option Acquire::AllowDowngradeToInsecureRepositories=1
[02:05] <TJ-> dG___: as in "apt-get -o Acquire::AllowDowngradeToInsecureRepositories=1 ..."
[02:05] <dG___> can that be set via argument with apt-get?
[02:05] <dG___> perfecto
[02:05] <dG___> let me try
[02:07] <dG___> nope :/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/26115812/
[02:14] <dG___> it is a warning, it looks like. but it fail to include that repo, consequently not allowing me to install the package
[02:16] <TJ-> dG___: I've tested it here and the package lists are fetched; can see it in /var/lib/apt/lists/
[02:17] <TJ-> dG___: and I see the package with "apt-cache show newrelic-infra" too
[02:18] <dG___> ah, got it ! thank you
[02:18] <dG___> yeah, I assumed that, because it still warned about the signature the install would fail as well
[02:18] <dG___> but I did try installing and it did work
[02:18] <dG___> thank you TJ-
[02:36] <ca_cabotage> hey all, I've got a SAMBA share on LibreElec. I can access it easily with a Windows machine (just "\\ip.address\") but can't seem to access it from my Lubuntu machines, how can I do this?
[02:58] <BLZbubba> ca_cabotage: i'd start with smbclient to make sure it works
[02:59] <BLZbubba> and once you're confident, start playing with cifs & fstab
[03:01] <BLZbubba> e.g. try smbclient -L //ipaddress/
[03:01] <BLZbubba> (-U and/or -W as needed) and see if your shares show up
[03:25] <foul_owl> How do I preseed ssid and psk?
[03:33] <jgould> Is there some hidden conf file for Network Manager?  I'm trying to use the autoconnect-priority field to make my on board 1000mbit connection the default, and the 100mbit USB connection as a secondary (to be configured for my QEMU VM's). No matter what I do, I can't seem to get the default for the host to stop being the default connection...
[03:49] <tatertots> jgould: https://wiki.qemu.org/Documentation/Networking
[03:53] <blakehschwartz75> alkisg: you there?
[03:53] <jgould> The whole idea behind this is because when I enable networking on my guests, I loose networking on the hosts... Also, what happened to the days of eth0, eth1, etc? LOL
[03:55] <jgould> The stranger thing is that I was able to boot into a live disk of Fedora 27 (it's what I had on hand... *shrug*) and use the autoconnect-priority field to change which network was the default.. For some reason Xubuntu isn't listening to my config files
[03:58] <rfleming> Does anyone know the mechanics of how openconnect and network-manager work together with systemd-resolved?
[03:59] <rfleming> For instance, if I set specific DNS servers on a VPN connection, should they not override whatever was set by the local DHCP server?
[03:59] <rfleming> (whilst connected to vpn0 of course)
[04:14] <blakehschwartz75> ponyrider: do you know alkisg?
[04:14] <ponyrider> blakehschwartz75: no
[04:15] <blakehschwartz75> ok, thanks
[04:20] <rfleming> any systemd-resolved people online?
[04:20] <rfleming> err, any systemd-resolved knowledgeable people online?
[04:20] <blakehschwartz75> anybody here that can help me move my home directory?
[04:21] <rfleming> blakehschwartz75, I can help with that
[04:21] <blakehschwartz75> I re-installed ubuntu 17.10 on a system that already had partitions. old installation got borked
[04:21] <rfleming> blakehschwartz75, so you need to copy the files from the old home directory?
[04:22] <blakehschwartz75> someone by the nick alkisg helped me recover the partitions, but unfortunately I forgot the user name I had mounted it under
[04:23] <blakehschwartz75> rfleming: I'm not exactly sure what the issue is, but I know that the previous /home partition I had is still there
[04:23] <rfleming> blakehschwartz75, you can use lsblk to see what's mounted where
[04:23] <daMaestro> rfleming, cross posting like a champ
[04:23] <blakehschwartz75> rfleming: just a sec
[04:23] <rfleming> daMaestro, reddit taught me well :P
[04:24] <daMaestro> rfleming, sigh.
[04:24] <blakehschwartz75> rfleming: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26116346/
[04:25] <rfleming> blakehschwartz75, is your home on a secondary disk?
[04:25] <daMaestro> rfleming, `sudo netstat -plan|grep :53`
[04:26] <daMaestro> rfleming, first thing is to find out what is listening locally
[04:26] <blakehschwartz75> The issue now is, in file explorer all my directories are empty. But if I go to 'other locations' and select another disk, I can go to that home directory and my other user is there (with the home directory I want)
[04:27] <rfleming> daMaestro, let me pastebin it.
[04:27] <blakehschwartz75> rfleming: no, I just have the one disk but it's on a partition
[04:28] <rfleming> daMaestro, http://paste.ubuntu.com/26116357/ shows dnsmasq and systemd-resolv
[04:28] <ponyrider> blakehschwartz75: if you just add an entry in your fstab you should be good to go
[04:28] <blakehschwartz75> So basically, when I re-installed I made a new user. The home directory I want mounted as mine is also under /home
[04:29] <daMaestro> rfleming, are you specifically wanting to run dnsmasq?
[04:29] <rfleming> daMaestro, I have no special need...
[04:29] <rfleming> ... it came pre-installed :)
[04:30] <blakehschwartz75> ponyrider: there's curently an entry in /etc/fstab for the home directory
[04:30] <daMaestro> rfleming, uninstall it and reboot. (okay if you don't want to reboot there are other ways, but it's easiest)
[04:30] <rfleming> daMaestro, give me a second.  I've read something about a b0rked resolv.conf
[04:31] <rfleming> let me check that first
[04:31] <blakehschwartz75> ponyrider: currently I have this: ls /home/ blake/        bschwartz757/ guest/        lost+found/
[04:31] <daMaestro> rfleming, the resolve.conf matters less than your results from `systemd-resolve --status`
[04:31] <daMaestro> rfleming, effective config is showing that dnsmasq handles your queries
[04:32] <blakehschwartz75> When I log in, I'm user 'blake'. The stuff I want under home is under bschwartz757
[04:32] <daMaestro> rfleming, unless you really need it, i'd remove it as things like injected dns from an openconnect session might not work
[04:32] <rfleming> daMaestro, hehe, you don't say :)
[04:32] <rfleming> ok... give me 2 shakes of a lambs tail
[04:32] <daMaestro> rfleming, just trying to help you determine the difference between my working system as you'd expect it and yours ;-)
[04:33] <ponyrider> blakehschwartz75: look at: usermod -d
[04:33] <rfleming> daMaestro, I'm just going to disable the service first.
[04:33] <blakehschwartz75> ponyrider: ah ok thanks
[04:33] <ponyrider> blakehschwartz75: and read up on what the '-m' flag can do
[04:33] <daMaestro> rfleming, sure, disable is fine. but just reboot
[04:34] <rfleming> brb
[04:34] <daMaestro> rfleming, it makes sure any diag you've done so far is removed
[04:34] <blakehschwartz75> ponyrider: thanks
[04:35] <blakehschwartz75> ponyrider: the last person that helped me said I'd need to create a guest user, login as that user, and then move the home directory. Is that necessary?
[04:37] <rfleming> daMaestro, okie dokie... dnsmasq is disabled, resolv.conf shows 127.0.0.53 now
[04:37] <rfleming> doesn't change
[04:37] <rfleming> (on vpn connect)
[04:40] <blakehschwartz75> ponyrider: so it would be something like 'sudo usermod -d -m bschwartz757'?
[04:48] <blakehschwartz75> yo, anybody there?
[04:49] <daMaestro> fleming, well that is still a local resolver
[04:49] <blakehschwartz75> alkisg:
[04:49] <blakehschwartz75> or ponyrider:
[04:50]  * jgould bashes his head against a wall
[04:50] <blakehschwartz75> jgould: sorry
[04:53] <rfleming> Would someone pastebin their unmodified /etc/systemd/resolved.conf file please?
[04:53] <rfleming> (for Ubuntu 17.10)
[04:55] <ducasse> rfleming: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26116450/
[04:56] <ducasse> rfleming: that's straight from a fresh install
[04:57] <rfleming> ducasse, thanks
[04:57] <rfleming> I must have fudged mine.  I actually have DNS and FallbackDNS settings
[04:59] <blakehschwartz75> anybody still here that can answer questions on usermod?
[05:00] <rfleming> blakehschwartz75, renaming your user account?
[05:01] <rfleming> blakehschwartz75, or just renaming the home folder?
[05:01] <blakehschwartz75> rfleming: I don't think I need to rename it, just change which directory the /home references
[05:01] <blakehschwartz75> currently I have this: ls /home/      blake/        bschwartz757/ guest/        lost+found/
[05:02] <rfleming> blakehschwartz75, change the username, it's simpler
[05:02] <blakehschwartz75> The stuff I want under home is under /home/bschwartz757, but currently when I log in I'm /blake
[05:02] <blakehschwartz75> ok how would I do that?
[05:02] <rfleming> sudo usermod -l bschwartz757 blake
[05:03] <blakehschwartz75> ok... will that change the folder it references too?
[05:04] <blakehschwartz75> i.e., under File Explorer I want my /bschwartz757 documents, pics etc to show up
[05:04] <rfleming> blakehschwartz75, no, but you can then just edit /etc/passwd and change the name
[05:04] <blakehschwartz75> ok... what's that look like?
[05:05] <rfleming> blakehschwartz75, give me a sec
[05:05] <blakehschwartz75> currently I have an entry for /home/blake under /etc/passwd, but not for /home/bschwartz757
[05:05] <blakehschwartz75> rfleming: no prob
[05:06] <rfleming> blakehschwartz75, What version of ubuntu you using?  16.04?
[05:06] <blakehschwartz75> I was on 16.04, but now on 17.10
[05:07] <ponyrider> blakehschwartz75:
[05:08] <blakehschwartz75> ponyrider: yes?
[05:08] <ponyrider> blakehschwartz75: you were asking?
[05:08] <rfleming> blakehschwartz75, OK:  usermod --home /home/bschwartz757 blake
[05:08] <rfleming> that'll change the home folder, without changing the username
[05:09] <blakehschwartz75> rfleming: and then do I still need to change /etc/passwd?
[05:09] <rfleming> if you want to change the username use usermod -l blake bschwartz757
[05:09] <rfleming> blakehschwartz75, no
[05:09] <rfleming> if you want to change the group groupmod -n bschwartz757 blake
[05:10] <blakehschwartz75> rfleming: ok. I don't really care about the username
[05:10] <blakehschwartz75> rfleming: do I need to change group in order to keep the correct permissions on everything?
[05:11] <rfleming> blakehschwartz75, as long as the group numbers match, it'll be OK
[05:11] <blakehschwartz75> rfleming: ok thanks
[05:11] <rfleming> np
[05:20] <blakehschwartz75> hey - trying to use 'usermod -d -m /home/<targetuser> olduser' and it's not working - seems that i maybe have the flags in the wrong order? man page for usermod says -m should be used in conjunction with -d, but nothing about order
[05:21] <ponyrider> the -d takes the HOME_DIR
[05:22] <ponyrider> blakehschwartz75: ^
[05:23] <blakehschwartz75> ah
[05:24] <blakehschwartz75> so it would be 'usermod -m /home/<targetuser> -m olduser'?
[05:24] <blakehschwartz75> ponyrider:
[05:24] <ponyrider> usermod -d HOME_DIR -m USER
[05:24] <blakehschwartz75> er, sorry. so it would be 'usermod -m /home/<targetuser> -d olduser'?
[05:25] <blakehschwartz75> ok gotcha
[05:26] <blakehschwartz75> ponyrider: that must be what alkisg meant. he said I need to be logged in as another user. When I tried the command it said 'usermod: user blake is currently used by process 1148'
[05:27] <ponyrider> blakehschwartz75: can you really *LOOK* at the command i typed
[05:27] <ponyrider> the -d takes the HOME_DIR!!
[05:33] <blakehschwartz75> ponyrider: yes, I did look at the command. I tried 'sudo usermod -d /home/bschwartz757 -m blake' and 'sudo usermod -d blake -m /home/bschwartz757'. You don't need to start throwing insults
[05:41] <blakehschwartz75> anyone online that can help with moving a home dir?
[06:00] <blakehschwartz75> Hey, anybody on that can help with moving a home dir?
[06:03] <ducasse> blakehschwartz75: easier wat han the other suggestion- create a third user with sudo rights, log in as that and do the moving from there
[06:04] <ducasse> *way
[06:06] <blakehschwartz75> ducasse: ok I can try that. although, when I tried that before I was getting an error related to the guest account not being in sudoers (although I had added them with admin privileges and a password.) I tried adding them to sudoers (using 'sudo usermod -a -G ...') and that didn't work either
[06:07] <ducasse> don't use the guest account, create an actual user account with sudo privilees
[06:07] <blakehschwartz75> ducasse: as far as moving the home dir, if the user I'm logged in as is /home/blake but I want to have /home/bschwartz757 as my home dir, would the usermod command be 'sudo usermod -d /home/bschwartz757/ -m blake'? or is that backwards?
[06:08] <blakehschwartz75> ducasse: that's what I meant - I created a guest account (figured it didn't matter if I called it 'guest') with admin privileges
[06:09] <blakehschwartz75> ducasse: added the user according to instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/user-add.html
[06:10] <ducasse> i'm not entirely sure if 'guest' is a reserved name or not,tbh
[06:10] <blakehschwartz75> oh gotcha
[06:10] <blakehschwartz75> now, is there a way to just create the other user and switch to that user within a terminal session? like without logging out and back in?
[06:11] <blakehschwartz75> seems like I have seen that before
[06:12] <blakehschwartz75> ducasse: I knew I had seen that. I'll give it a try
[06:12] <ducasse> the point is that you want to exit all processes running as the users you want to rename/move
[06:14] <blakehschwartz75> ducasse: ok. So I created another user using 'adduser', gave them sudo access, and switched to them. That should be sufficient?
[06:15] <ducasse> as long as you logged out completely from the other user(s)
[06:16] <blakehschwartz75> but as far as the usermod command, if the directory that's currently popping up as my home directory is '/home/blake/' but I want it to use '/home/bschwartz757/' then I would use 'sudo usermod -d /home/bschwartz757/ -m blake', correct?
[06:19] <ducasse> sounds good after a brief look at the man page, i'd do it in the old, more complicated way :)
[06:21] <blakehschwartz75> ducasse: ok thanks a lot for your help. Any ideas on how to check if the other user is logged out fully?
[06:22] <ducasse> if you pressed 'log out', it is. or should be. you'll get a message if it isn't.
[06:23] <Bashing-om> blakehschwartz75: "who' to see who all is logged in and where .
[06:24] <blakehschwartz75> Bashing-om: yeah looks like that should work
[06:33] <alkisg> Good morning all :)
[06:34] <Bashing-om> aye, our heavy hitter alkisg is up to bat :)
[06:35] <alkisg> Haha :D
[06:35] <ducasse> hiya alkisg - good morning to you!
[06:36] <ducasse> coffee and biscuits in -discuss as usual :)
[06:55] <tzcrawford> I have no idea how to use IRC. I'm new
[06:55] <tzcrawford> lol
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> !support | tzcrawford
[07:02] <manornk> Hi guys, I have huge problem. After update from 13.04 to 13.10, I have old ubuntu GUI, and new one GNOME. On old gui my keyboard and mouse aren't working, but when I try to share screen(on every app, web based or skype) I can't, cause screen is all black.. Can you help me with either of these problems
[07:04] <illfated> hey
[07:05] <illfated> any luck with itunes running?
[07:05] <Bashing-om> !13.10 | manornk
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> manornk: clean install is recommended
[07:06] <manornk> Sorry, not 13, but 17.04 to 17.10, my mistake, I am tired, been trying to solve problem for hours
[07:07] <manornk> lotuspsychje: I know, but this is my work computer, and didn't have time for it, especially cause I have 2TB of data on it
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> manornk: graphics card chipset?
[07:08] <manornk> lotuspsychje: I have Intel HD Graphics 5500
[07:08] <Bashing-om> manornk: wayland interface issues ??.. what results when choosing the Xorg environment ?
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> manornk: did you try the guest account or xorg session ^
[07:09] <manornk> Bashing-om: when I use wayland I can't share screen. I can share any program, but not the screen itself. But on old interface(unity) my mouse and keyboard aren't working at all
[07:10] <manornk> lotuspsychje: no, just usual user
[07:11] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: the old ubuntu session will only be using x11...
[07:21] <Mr_Pan> !5.04
[07:21] <Mr_Pan> !4.10
[07:21] <Mr_Pan> !4.04
[07:27] <Bashing-om> !4.06
[07:35] <ducasse> !botabuse
[07:36] <ducasse> Mr_Pan: ^^
[07:38] <Mr_Pan> ducasse, check bot commands to replicate on italian ubuntu chan #ubuntu-it  :D
[07:39] <sruli> i want to install ubuntu for a friend, which is more stable ubuntu-gnome or ubuntu-ubnity? ubuntu-gnome seems more user friendly
[07:40] <ducasse> Mr_Pan: please check them like ubottu described, so they don't show in the channel
[07:41] <Mr_Pan> ducasse, ok ! :D
[07:41] <ducasse> sruli: well, unity has a very uncertain future now
[07:41] <sruli> ducasse: yes i am aware, dont know what to install for him
[07:42] <sruli> ducasse: at home i use ubuntu-mate, not as reliable as unity, question is where does gnome stand
[07:43] <ducasse> how capable is he with computers in general?
[07:44] <zentris> Does anyone here have a Ryzen CPU that segfaults, especially via kill-ryzen script?
[07:44] <sruli> ducasse: not very good, but i installed him elementry os few years ago, he's been using that but very buggy
[07:45] <ducasse> sruli: thenni would try gnome, see how he gets on with it. if it doesn't work for him, maybe try something like xfce?
[07:46] <sruli> ducasse: he's the type of guy that if it looks nice then he believes its a good product.. kinda rules out xfce
[07:47] <zentris> I am getting on odd result will kill-ryzen, segfaults with 2133MHz RAM (default setting) & doesn't appear to segfault with XMP Profile 2933MHz
[07:47] <zentris> Is it possible that Ryzen segfault, after week 25, is related to incorrect memmory settings and not a faulty chip?
[07:48] <ducasse> well, i like xfce and recommend it to all sorts of people, but as i said - try gnome
[07:48] <ducasse> zentris: i suggest you ask in ##hardware or ##linux
[07:49] <sruli> ducasse: thanks
[07:49] <sruli> is there anyway i can set boot flag to show grub menu on next boot?
[07:49] <zentris> ducasse: will do
[07:52] <ducasse> sruli: i _think_ you need to set GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 and RUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true in /etc/default/grub and run update-grub, but i might misremember
[07:53] <sruli> looking for a simple way to just show it on next boot, will have to reboot at pluymoth screen to get it
[07:53] <ducasse> sruli: that's for every boot, though
[07:54] <rh10> guys, is it real to reassign in unity (ubuntu 16.04) hotkey to access to app in panel? by default it super+1,2,3 and so on. but if i want to assign, for example super+m or smth else to app
[07:54] <rh10> how can i do it?
[07:55] <ducasse> sruli: i checked grub-reboot, but it doesn't seem to support it
[07:58] <sruli> ducasse: thanks
[07:59] <ducasse> can't find it in any of the grub tools, sorry
[08:00] <alkisg> sruli: why not just hold left shift pressed while it boots
[08:00] <alkisg> This shows the grub menu
[08:01] <alkisg> The grub menu shows automatically when boot doesn't finish properly, so I'm sure there's a flag there, we can find it if shift isn't enough :)
[08:02] <sruli> epoptes: its a vm, doesnt work, wanted to avoid forcing reboot, never mind
[08:02] <sruli> dosent work = shift doesnt show grub at boot
[08:03] <ducasse> try spamming esc instead
[08:03] <alkisg> Shift or Left Ctrl or Esc should work in VMs too, yeah
[08:10] <rh10> guys, is it real to speed up unity dash? maybe disable opacity or so on?
[08:11] <sruli> alkisg: ?
[08:11] <alkisg> sruli: all ok now :)
[08:12] <sruli> anyone know of a reliable way to make multi distro uefi live cd?
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> sruli: multiboot
[08:15]  * alkisg has a nice grub script that uses code to locate and boot .iso files, so I only need to copy .isos, not recreate sticks or run code... :)
[08:15] <sruli> lotuspsychje: tried it a year or 2 ago, not much luck, seems updated will try again, thanks
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> sruli: https://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[08:18] <sruli> lotuspsychje: that one is a disaster if you try to update / add distros, will try multiboot, thanks
[08:36] <sruli> alkisg: just noticed your message about grub script, more details?
[08:37] <alkisg> sruli: I have written a grub script that creates a menu for all the .isos that you put in a folder
[08:37] <alkisg> It works both under legacy bios and under uefi, and I even put windows in it, and a few other options to boot linux/windows from broken hard disk installations too
[08:37] <alkisg> ...and a few options for memtest etc etc
[08:38] <alkisg> I prefer it from everything else that I've seen :)
[08:38] <alkisg> So after the initial creation of the script, to add more distros, you just copy .iso files from explorer or from nautilus...
[08:38] <sruli> alkisg: i once tried by adding each iso to grub menu, didnt work well, where can i download the script from?
[08:38] <alkisg> *initial creation of the stick
[08:39] <alkisg> sruli: I haven't made it public
[08:39] <alkisg> :)
[08:40] <alkisg> (yet)
[08:41] <adac> ntpdate
[08:41] <adac>  5 Dec 09:40:16 ntpdate[21181]: no servers can be used, exiting
[08:52] <Lavinho> good morning
[09:10] <adac> How can i restart timesyncd?
[09:12] <adac> Is ntpd better then timesyncd?
[09:24] <ibmr50e> what was the name of this bot helping find channels?
[09:25] <auronandace> !alis | ibmr50e
[09:25] <ibmr50e> ye thank you
[09:54] <ibmr50e> negroes
[09:55] <ibmr50e> negroes in paris
[09:56] <ibmr50e> great song
[10:22] <ducasse> adac: timesyncd is really easy to set up and use, ntpd is quite complex
[10:23] <jonzen> ne1 here know how to contact freenode server admins
[10:23] <jonzen> pls
[10:23] <ducasse> jonzen: ask in #freenode?
[10:23] <jonzen> ty much
[10:25] <ducasse> jonzen: use full words, and maybe they'll even answer you
[10:50] <bittis> anyone know if is even possible from a "Failed to start Accounts Service" error on boot?
[11:17] <ducasse> bittis: pastebin output of 'systemctl status accounts-daemon.service -l --no-pager'
[11:41] <easyOnMe> hello everyone
[11:41] <easyOnMe> need your help
[11:42] <hateball> !ask | easyOnMe
[11:44] <easyOnMe> please have a look at this: https://imgur.com/a/07wcd
[11:44] <easyOnMe> I encountered this problem each time I log in to my ubuntu account
[11:48] <sruli> i installed megasync client on fresh ubuntu-gnome 16.04.3 i can only run it with sudo, any ideas what i need to do to change that?
[12:10] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:10] <ibmr50e> yo guys I installed Ubuntu and it updates every day, why?
[12:12] <ducasse> ibmr50e: check settings under "software and updates"
[12:14] <ibmr50e> ducasse, everything fine it installs updates every dday
[12:14] <ibmr50e> different apps
[12:24] <sruli> ducasse: I think ibmr50e's question was why so many updates, i have the same question on 1 of my lubuntu instals, every day there are new packages
[12:28] <hateball> sruli: Because broken things get fixed is why
[12:29] <ducasse> sruli: on my 17.10 machine, there are 58103 packages in the repos. any one of them might receive a bug or security fix - not really weird that they are frequent...
[12:29] <sruli> hateball: i know what updates are! question is 1 in 1 of my installs (which happens to be the one with the least installed packages) are there more updates than any of my other 15 machines
[12:30] <sruli> i am not worried about it, was just commenting on ibmr50e's question
[12:31] <ducasse> sruli: maybe the packages on that machine receive more attention for some reason?
[12:31] <hateball> sruli: All comes down to what packages are installed, regardless if the total number is lower
[12:32] <sruli> no prob, i hardly use that machine, not worried if it downloads updates all day long
[12:41]  * Rikem sighs
[12:55] <sruli> i cant get my usb 3 ports to work, any ideas why? usb 2 ports work fine, ubuntu 16.04
[12:55] <sruli> i wasn't able to get it to work on 14.04 either
[13:06] <BluesKaj> sruli, https://askubuntu.com/questions/755267/usb-3-0-ports-failing-intermittently-other-usb-ports-not-working
[13:09] <tatertots> good afternoon
[13:11] <tatertots> i'm hoping one of you gentlemen familiar with regex and expressions and such could enlighten me on how to grep for **: since they are special characters and all that fancy stuff.
[13:11] <tatertots> sincerely, tatertots
[13:12] <tatertots> oh and thank you
[13:12] <akik> tatertots: grep -- '**' file
[13:12] <akik> ascii art :)
[13:13] <akik> you don't even need the --
[13:15] <tatertots> hmmm that's doing something else
[13:15] <tatertots> i have a lot of text so i'll have to slow it down to find out what is "red"
[13:15] <tatertots> what ever it is that is "red" is only 1 or 2 characters
[13:16] <sruli> BluesKaj: thanks, will try it later
[13:17] <tatertots> and it's not red anymore when piped to less/more
[13:18] <tatertots> i may have to isolate some other unique characters that appear in this text besides "special" characters
[13:20] <tatertots> that doesn't find "WARNING **:"
[13:20] <tatertots> of course i could grep for WARN or something but i was trying to target that "**:"
[13:22] <akik> tatertots: you might have some control characters in there
[13:23] <akik> tatertots: grep '**:' test <- also works
[13:23] <akik> "od -c file" will show the characters in more detail
[13:25] <ajbone> Hello, when running apt-get update, it fails when a line for ffmpeg doesnt have a release file. I can't see this ffmpeg entry in /etc/apt/sources.list   How would I go about removing it?
[13:26] <alkisg> tatertots:  fgrep '*' /etc/adduser.conf
[13:28] <BluesKaj> ajbone, ffmpeg isn't a repos, it's an app located in a repos unless you have a special ppa for the app in your /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[13:30] <ajbone> Err:7 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kirillshkrogalev/ffmpeg-next/ubuntu artful Release             <--  thats the line it fails on.  If I go into the sources.list.d directory and delete the ffmpeg entries will that solve my problem?
[13:31] <BluesKaj> ajbone, ajbone like I postedabove, remove the ppa from  /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[13:32] <BluesKaj> then apt-update
[13:32] <ajbone> cool thanks for the help BluesKaj
[13:36] <zetheroo> how to get the wireless adapter to prefer 5ghz networks over 2.4ghz ?
[13:41] <mrhall> hello, i have a stranger issue with dual booting (linux - w7) when i use linux restart my computer and enter to w7 the time zone change
[13:41] <mrhall> i so strange
[13:46] <Lavinho> good afternoon
[13:51] <akik> mrhall: here's a doc on how to setup the windows ntp client https://atkdinosaurus.wordpress.com/2017/08/30/how-to-configure-the-windows-ntp-client/
[14:00] <JonelethIrenicus> anyone know when a 4.15 kernel will be in the repos?
[14:01] <JonelethIrenicus> or greater
[14:02] <ducasse> JonelethIrenicus: 4.15 _might_ make it into 18.04, otherwise 18.10. and the matching hwe updates, of course.
[14:03] <JonelethIrenicus> ducasse: where are we with those release dates again?
[14:03] <JonelethIrenicus> sorry I am on 16.04 and don't folow it
[14:05] <geirha> Ubuntu yy.mm gets released year 20yy, month mm
[14:05] <Yardan> Hello. I'm trying to install conky manager on 17.10 with gdebi using sudo gdebi conky-manager*.deb and it returns gdebi error, file not found: conky-manager*.deb and I'm literally staring at the file named conky-manager.deb on my desktop. Any ideas? I'm new at this, sorry.
[14:06] <geirha> Yardan: did you change to the desktop directory first?  cd ~/Desktop   or whatever it's called in your language
[14:07] <JonelethIrenicus> geirha: so 2018 April
[14:07] <JonelethIrenicus> is that really what the numbers mean?
[14:07] <geirha> JonelethIrenicus: yep
[14:07] <JonelethIrenicus> damn that blows my mind
[14:07] <JonelethIrenicus> i never realized that
[14:07] <JonelethIrenicus> haha
[14:07] <Yardan> Damn, that worked.
[14:07] <Yardan> Thanks mate
[14:09] <TaZeR> is anyone familiar with full disk encryption systems and disk imaging software such as clonezilla? for example if i where to clone my hard drive because i got a newer larger one will i have any problems with the decryption process, will my system boot and work normal?
[14:10] <TaZeR> this is a ubuntu system which used its full disk encryption with lvm from the installer
[14:15] <TJ-> TaZeR: if it's a bit-for-bit copy there should be no problems
[14:16] <TaZeR> TJ-: should be, i would use clonezilla
[14:16] <TJ-> TaZeR: the 'FDE' is actually a smallish (~4MB) header at the start of a partition, followed by the encrypted data itself, so you can safely enlarge an encrypted partition and file-system
[14:17] <TaZeR> nice, i was hoping that would be the answer =) thanks
[14:37] <GrandPa-G> I am at wits end with a problem. I am trying to send a kill -SIGHUP <pid> to a system program (dnsmasq). I have it in a bash script file. if I run the script from command line, it works. However, if it runs from the program (openvpn) that is supposed to invoke it, it doesn't do anything. Any ideas of where to look would be helpful.
[14:38] <TJ-> GrandPa-G: lack of permissions for the openvpn process maybe
[14:38] <TJ-> GrandPa-G: usually the killing process owner needs to be the same user as the target process, or UID 0
[14:39] <GrandPa-G> TJ-:from everything I can check, it is running as root. I also tried with sudo kill...
[14:40] <TJ-> GrandPa-G: the other consideration is, how is your script getting the PID of the process to be killed? Maybe it's using the wrong PID?
[14:40] <c2tarun> Anybody using lastpass with firefox?
[14:41] <GrandPa-G> TJ-:I actually tried it by hardcoding the pid, still nothing. I can look, but how can I change the user to another so I can run as the same as the killee?
[14:42] <TJ-> GrandPa-G: usually, the openvpn server drops to the 'nobody' or some other unprivileged user once it has started and connected to sockets, so it won't have the permissions required to do the kill
[14:43] <GrandPa-G> tj-:In the script, I have put echo of user, and pid. both root and 0.
[14:45] <TJ-> GrandPa-G: so you've proved your script is executed by openvpn, but the SIGHUP doesn't appear to cause a reaction?
[14:46] <GrandPa-G> TJ-:Yep, but you gave me the clue I needed. I changed it to sudo -u dnsmasq kill... and IT WORKS! thanks
[14:48] <TJ-> GrandPa-G: if the script is running as UID 0 then 'sudo' should never be needed
[14:49] <GrandPa-G> TJ-:There is something I can't explain, but the -u did the trick.
[15:16] <multifractal> I just got Wine and am running an installer .exe file. It's asking me which path I'd like to install various stuff to, and by default it reads out C:\Program Files\Blah. Should I leave it as it is, or should I select an actual location that exists?
[15:16] <TJ-> multifractal: that path will exist, as an alias, under $HOME/.wine/
[15:17] <multifractal> TJ-: Ah I think I see, so if/when installation is complete I'll be able to navigate thse folders and find stuff. Thanks.
[15:18] <TJ-> multifractal: you'll find $HOME/.wine/dosdevices/c:/ for example
[15:18] <akik> multifractal: there'll be a drive_c there
[15:25] <multifractal> akik: I just ran the newly installed windows software. It says "No ASIO sound output driver was found on your system..." But I also read that ASIO isn't supported on Linux because they typically have lower latency than Windows. So is there something I can install via Wine that will trick this program into thinking I do have an ASIO driver?
[15:26] <akik> multifractal: there is wineasio but i wasn't able to make it work
[15:26] <akik> multifractal: try it and report back if you can :)
[15:27] <wawrek> hi there, I am writing to ask how do we get smart (opening and closing) quotes on ubuntu/linux. “to act
[15:27] <wawrek> or not to act”
[15:28] <wawrek> example of smart quotes above
[15:28] <multifractal> akik: I'll give it a go, but I'm brand new to all this Wine stuff. Is there a recommended installation method or guide you know of?
[15:28] <akik> multifractal: it's in the kxstudio repository
[15:29] <multifractal> akik: ah ok and after adding that repo it's a simple apt-get install?
[15:29] <akik> multifractal: yes
[15:36] <multifractal> akik: Since closing the program running via Wine and getting the wineasio, When I try to start running that program it says `wine: virtual memory exhausted`.
[15:38] <akik> multifractal: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1627558 it talks about changing the system's settings for realtime priorities
[15:38] <akik> multifractal: using wine in this way is kind of a hack with no guarantees on stability
[15:40] <akik> multifractal: i'm using a lowlatency kernel on my audio pc too
[16:01] <mentalita> !info gtk3
[16:01] <mentalita> !info gtk
[16:01] <mentalita> !info pygobject
[16:01] <mentalita> !search gtk3
[16:01] <mentalita> !search gtk
[16:01] <auronandace> !msgthebot | mentalita
[16:01] <mentalita> sry
[16:01] <mentalita> does someone know what is gtk3 package called?
[16:03] <Romantic> What is the nifty utility that is used to create paste output from the command line?
[16:05] <alkisg> Romantic: command | nc termbin.com 9999,
[16:05] <alkisg> or command | pastebinit
[16:07] <whaley> mentalita: apt search libgtk-3 should show you each of them (not sure which you want)
[16:12] <multifractal> akik: Is this the fix on the linked page you're talking about "After making my user a member of the audio group (System -> Administration -> Users and Groups) and logging out and in again (and of course using a realtime kernel) the issue was resolved... So for others to help you, you might want topost your wine version!"?
[16:12] <akik> multifractal: yes but it also needs another setting
[16:13] <multifractal> akik: Where's System>Administration>Users and Groups? Also I try launching Wine system settings from unity launcher and it just glows on the dock for a little while and disappears.
[16:13] <akik> multifractal: it's here http://jackaudio.org/faq/linux_rt_config.html
[16:13] <akik> @realtime   -  rtprio     99
[16:13] <akik> @realtime   -  memlock    unlimited
[16:13] <rh10> guys. which screenshot utility more handy? shutter - not suitable (sometime freeze)
[16:13] <akik> @realtime is the group name but it can be also audio
[16:14] <akik> multifractal: winecfg opens the wine settings
[16:14] <multifractal> akik: winecfg also says virtual memory exhausted :(
[16:15] <akik> multifractal: you need to do that change first, i guess
[16:15] <rh10> awesome screenshoter exists in unity DE. but im using xfce. can i install to xfce DE?
[16:17] <multifractal> akik: sweet thanks now I'm able to winecfg. I had to close all my tabs when logging out and in, do you remember what I need to do next?
[16:17] <akik> multifractal: there was the command to register the wineasio.dll in wine
[16:18] <Nik736> Hi guys, I am looking for a networking expert who wants to help me with some bond and bridge configuration. Will pay well, please qry for more details
[16:18] <akik> multifractal: regsvr32 wineasio but then there's also to consider 32-bit and 64-bit wine
[16:19] <akik> multifractal: and if your vsts are 32-bit or 64-bit
[16:19] <multifractal> akik: I think mine's 32 bit. And the VSTs I'm using are pretty old for the most part, 32 bit.
[16:19] <Romantic> what does "set -x" mean in bash?
[16:19] <TJ-> Nik736: you can have this for free: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25904382/
[16:19] <akik> multifractal: https://lkubuntu.wordpress.com/2014/01/09/how-to-set-up-wineasio/
[16:19] <Romantic> man set : no manual entry
[16:20] <akik> Romantic: it'll show the script execution verbose
[16:21] <brainwave> Romantic: -x enables the debugging mode for bash
[16:21] <TJ-> Romantic: you'd need "man bash" then search for the 'set' BUILT-IN
[16:22] <brainwave> Romantic: It basically expands all commands and variable values
[16:22] <multifractal> akik: hmmm I ran `regsvr32 wineasio`, which resulted "regsvr32: Successfully registered DLL 'wineasio'". But the program is still warning me that I have no ASIO driver.
[16:23] <brainwave> Romantic: for instance, if you had a script with a bunch of commands, it would print the command itself before executing it. You can try it on a simple script you wrote
[16:24] <akik> multifractal: that's as far as i got to :(
[16:26] <multifractal> akik: Fair enough it was a long shot. Thanks for the help anyway. I guess I'll be tied to Windows for a while longer...
[16:26] <akik> multifractal: but i can point you to some linux audio forums if you want to ask further info
[16:28] <akik> multifractal: http://www.kvraudio.com/ https://linuxmusicians.com/
[16:28] <multifractal> akik: Thanks. Is there any other way you know of testing out my wineasio installation, without necessarily relying on this drum program BFD which depends on it? Just to test independently whether it's been isntalled correctly?
[16:29] <akik> multifractal: sorry no. but there's also a native drum machine for linux
[16:29] <digitalboy> Hi guys, I would like to install Ubuntu Server 16.04 on my laptop (HP 2570P) I boot the installer from the prepared USB drive and the screen after loading the kernel suddenly "corrupts" (somethings along those lines: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/441428-screen-glitches-when-attempting-to-install-debian-on-my-laptop-any-ideas/) btw I'm the digitalboy at the end of the discussion
[16:29] <digitalboy> The problem here is that the solution provided works with Debian and other GNU/Linux distros, it doesn't for Ubuntu Server
[16:29] <akik> multifractal: http://www.hydrogen-music.org/hcms/
[16:30] <digitalboy> I've noticed that this doesn't happen at all on Ubuntu 16.04 Desktop
[16:30] <realies> installed the ati radeon driver and i cant login now
[16:31] <digitalboy> Some *buntu guru that could tell me what is going on?
[16:31] <realies> when i type in my password it blinks for a second and pulls me back to the login screen
[16:31] <brainwave> realies: sounds like a wrong password to me
[16:31] <realies> brainwave, no
[16:31] <realies> it had auto login also
[16:31] <digitalboy> I've also noticed that there are some differences in the GRUB2 configuration entries between the two versions
[16:31] <brainwave> realies: what error message does it throw if you try to login to a tty? sounds like some file needed for login is not being accessible anymore
[16:31] <realies> like x is dying
[16:31] <realies> brainwave, no errors
[16:32] <brainwave> realies: login to a tty? Ctrl+Alt+F2 ?
[16:32] <TJ-> digitalboy: the usual problem is GRUB going into graphics mode rather than staying in text mode, but I *thought* on the server ISO it used text mode throughout
[16:32] <realies> brainwave, as i said no errors, im in
[16:33] <brainwave> realies: so just to confirm, you are in through tty but not through your login manager?
[16:33] <realies> dude, the x server is crashing after installing the ati drivers
[16:34] <multifractal> akik: Interesting. BFD is what I use to plug my electric kit into, to make it sound more like a realistic kit - it simulates a real kit by layering HQ recordings, modelling crosstalk and so forth. Perhaps Hydrogen can fill in for that, at least temporarilty.
[16:34] <TJ-> realies: Sometimes that can be caused by the $HOME/.Xauthority file being owned by 'root' rather than the user
[16:35] <digitalboy> TJ-: Thank you for the reply, do you happen to have a way to "force" the text mode in Ubuntu Server?
[16:35] <realies> TJ-, owned by the right user
[16:36] <TJ-> digitalboy: well, your description in the linked article would be my suggestion. Edit the entry in the GRUB menu. Have you tried adding "nomodeset" to the kernel's command-line there?
[16:36] <TJ-> realies: OK, so not that. I've seen this also happen when the user's $HOME is encrypted and they've changed their user password and that failed to sync with the ecryptfs passphrase, so their files fail to be decrypted
[16:37] <realies> no encryption
[16:37] <digitalboy> Yes, I've tried, unfortunately no success :(
[16:37] <TJ-> realies: Phew! because that is a PAIN to try to fix sometimes
[16:37] <digitalboy> I've also noticed that:
[16:37] <digitalboy> Ubuntu Desktop loads "linux/casper/vmlinuz.efi"
[16:37] <digitalboy> While Ubuntu Server loads "linux/install/vmlinuz"
[16:37] <ioria> realies, what you mean with 'installed the ati radeon driver' ?  radeon is built-in the kernel
[16:37] <digitalboy> Maybe the culprit is there :-/
[16:37] <realies> ioria, AMDGPU-PRO
[16:38] <ioria> realies, ok, ... kernel and ubunru version ?
[16:38] <TJ-> digitalboy: I suppose it could be a weird interaction, if the -server isn't booting in EFI mode. Are you choosing the EFI mode in the firmware boot menu?
[16:38] <realies> ioria, 4.10.0-40 ubuntu 16.04
[16:39] <ioria> realies, have you followed this ? http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx
[16:39] <realies> yes
[16:39] <digitalboy> TJ-: I'm almost sure it's booting in EFI mode, I've disabled BIOS/CSM at the firmware level (HP firmware)
[16:40] <digitalboy> Maybe is the sketchy firmware of my HP laptop :-/
[16:40] <digitalboy> But I can't explain why Ubuntu Desktop works and Ubuntu Server doesn't..
[16:40] <TJ-> digitalboy: OK, that helps narrow it down. It *sounds* like an EFI GOP issue
[16:41] <ioria> realies, so your card it's not supported ... which is ?
[16:41] <TJ-> digitalboy: So GRUB menu is OK, but Linux goes screwey? Is there a (short) time where you see kernel messages correctly before the mode changes and it is screwed up?
[16:41] <digitalboy> TJ-: Ok, what could help in diagnosing/solving the problem (if possible at all?)
[16:42] <brainwave> digitalboy: what graphics card and drivers are you using?
[16:43] <digitalboy> TJ-: Yes, GRUB menu is functional (from what I can see) but as soon the Ubuntu Server kernel is loaded the screwing happens
[16:43] <digitalboy> I don't see any messages
[16:45] <digitalboy> Forgot to mention: When booting Ubuntu Desktop from the USB media, I can see the same issue of the server version (graphical corruption) for 1 maybe 1.5 seconds but then the screen flashes and it "fix" itself
[16:45] <brainwave> digitalboy: So heres what is likely happening. Your grub is working, but your compressed linux kernel (thats the vmlinuz) is not bootable
[16:46] <digitalboy> brainwave: I'm trying to install it on an HP 2570P laptop (booted in UEFI mode)
[16:46] <brainwave> digitalboy: So you likely need to try a different kernel to see if you can boot that instead
[16:46] <digitalboy> Thank you for the replies btw guys..
[16:46] <TJ-> digitalboy: If you tap a key once the display is stable, does it change, indicating you caused the display to be altered?
[16:47] <brainwave> digitalboy: my guess is that the server kernel is not configured with the EFISTUB switch during mkinitcpio (which makes the kernel)
[16:47] <TJ-> digitalboy: also, can you tell us the make/model of the GPU? I've seen this a few times myself with some GPUs when the firmware starts them in graphics mode
[16:48] <digitalboy> brainwave: Understood :)
[16:48] <digitalboy> TJ-: Sure, it is an Intel HD 4000 (iGPU)
[16:49] <realies> ioria, rx580
[16:49] <TJ-> brainwave: digitalboy the vmlinuz does have the EFI stub
[16:50] <TJ-> digitalboy: if you can do the 'tap a key' and see if it changes test, that'd indicate this is purely a display issue. I can talk you through what you should be seeing at each stage
[16:50] <digitalboy> Crazy idea I know, but do you think that I can "transplant" the Ubuntu Desktop kernel image to the Ubuntu Server USB media?
[16:51] <digitalboy> TJ-: I try and report back :)
[16:51] <realies> ioria, it is supported
[16:52] <digitalboy> Thank you again guys, I owe you one :)
[16:54] <multifractal> akik: I installed FL studio via Wine, in order to see whether wineasio was detected by programs other than BFD. FL installer includes the option to install ASIO4ALL and its own FL Studio driver. I opted to install these and now when running the BFD program it recognizes these ASIO drivers. Not sure if they'll work yet, because I can't successfully register the software (used the product key too many times)...
[16:55] <multifractal> akik: https://imgur.com/a/EerMb Notice the little green ASIO4ALL icon in my system tray near the WIFI icon.
[16:55] <digitalboy> Yep, the display changes, I can "clearly" see the distorted elements of the TUI changes as I move the directional keys (up and down arrows)
[16:55] <akik> multifractal: ok great to know
[16:55] <TJ-> digitalboy: when you edit the "Install Ubuntu Server" boot-entry, change "set gfxpayload=keep" to "set gfxpayload=text" and then Ctrl+X --- that'll maintain a text mode console
[16:56] <TJ-> digitalboy: I've got it up in an EFI virtual machine here in case you need to know what is on the display :)
[16:58] <akik> multifractal: although fl studio is a commercial product if i remember right?
[16:58] <multifractal> akik: yeah I'm a fully paid-up FL studio user, but you can install the demo without paying. I think the drivers it comes with are free.
[17:05] <realies> how do i find out why x is crashing on login?
[17:06] <TJ-> realies: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and $HOME/.xsession-errors
[17:07] <realies> does it matter if i'm running the monitor of the iGPU?
[17:10] <ioria> realies, can you paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log  ?
[17:15] <realies> ioria, http://ix.io/CNX
[17:16] <ioria> realies, 12.587
[17:18] <ioria> realies, and btw, you're using encryption (or lvm)
[17:18] <sruli> TJ-: I need some help with a issue you once helped me with, do you have a minute?
[17:18] <realies> ioria, lvm
[17:18] <ioria> ok
[17:18] <realies> does SElinux have to be enabled?
[17:18] <realies> has*
[17:19] <mentalita> can I make my apt-get install python3 install things for python3.6, not python3.5?
[17:19] <TJ-> sruli: I am just off out for a few minutes but I'll be back in about 15 mins
[17:19] <sruli> TJ-: thanks, will PM you you in 15
[17:20] <ioria> realies, try to reinstall with this  flag :   ./amdgpu-pro-install --compute
[17:22] <realies> ok, uninstalling now
[17:35] <yishan> Désolé pour le flood
[17:37] <wryfi> we have an upstream partner with an apt repo, and they're complaining that our servers are generating unexpected 404s on their repo server. this is the list of files: https://pastebin.com/XEk1wZ2h. it doesn't seem unusual to me that apt would be looking for these files, but apparently they are not seeing these requests from other customers. can anyone here comment?
[17:38] <leftyfb> wryfi: they're complaining about some 404's in apache logs? What's the big deal?
[17:38] <wryfi> we are not trusty, not precise, but they have instructed us to specify precise in the sources.list.
[17:38] <mentalita> what is decent ubuntu distro
[17:38] <wryfi> leftyfb: that's my feeling too, i'm just trying to do some due dligence.
[17:38] <mentalita> that ships with python3.6
[17:38] <freakyy> hi all. i wanna use my smartphone to stream from the netflix app to my linux laptop. is that possible?
[17:38] <mentalita> linux mint is 3.5
[17:38] <mentalita> like wtf
[17:39] <leftyfb> freakyy: I asked you yesterday, why not just watch netflix directly on your laptop?
[17:39] <freakyy> leftyfb: because i need to have the stuff downloaded
[17:39] <freakyy> and i can not download to my laptop
[17:44] <leftyfb> freakyy: https://www.maketecheasier.com/cast-android-screen-linux-desktop/   found with google
[17:45] <sruli> leftyfb: i believe he wants to stream full screen, the tools in that link show a little window with your screen
[17:46] <leftyfb> ok, then scroll down to the bottom of that article where someone suggests ApowerMirror and try that
[17:47] <freakyy> leftyfb: i think thats not possible as netflix video is drm protected
[17:47] <leftyfb> freakyy: if it uses google cast, then it should work
[17:49] <campitor> hi there everybody.
[17:51] <campitor> I am trying to calculate the hashsum of a dvd that I have burned like a few years ago, but I remember that the hash sum of a burned dvd is not the same as the iso, I have searched using google for how to calc the hashsum of the dvd, but all of them seem to need the size of the original iso file, so that they can calculate the original hashsum of th
[17:51] <campitor> e iso file
[17:51] <campitor> is there a way to calculate the hash of a dvd without having the iso file?
[17:55] <freakyy> leftyfb: i already tried usin screen mirroring pro streaming to some browser window, it streams the screen until i stream the video then it stops
[17:55] <mentalita> downloading ubuntu gnome now
[17:55] <freakyy> its just screen mirroring and thats not allowed with drm
[17:58] <Arshoon> Greetings. Is this a good channel to ask Ubuntu help for servers?
[17:59] <campitor> Arshoon : a very great place
[18:00] <Arshoon> I see you have an ubuntu-server channel as well. I asked there.
[18:00] <freakyy> thanks for the help though
[18:00] <freakyy> i think its not possible then
[18:00] <campitor> Arshoon : I am not an op, but yes, thanks.
[18:01] <campitor> Arshoon: : hope you got what you deserved
[18:05] <leftyfb> freakyy: then the answer is no
[18:12] <freakyy> leftyfb: ok thanks :)
[18:31] <rfleming> Hi!  Any gotchas upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04?
[18:33] <alkisg> I believe the release notes would be more comprehensive than some reply on irc :)
[18:33] <alkisg> It should be stable enough now, 3 years later...
[18:33] <alkisg> maybe you should go to 16.04 as well
[18:34] <jk^> Hi, where are the Minimum System Requirements?
[18:34] <jk^> for ubuntu 16.04.3?
[18:35] <rfleming> alkisg: One would hope
[18:35] <alkisg> jk^: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[18:36] <jk^> alkisg, there are the "Reccomended" ones. I need the "Minimum" ones.
[18:37] <alkisg> jk^: if you mean " it barely boots", that you be around 400 mb or something
[18:37] <alkisg> *would be
[18:37] <alkisg> How much ram do YOU have?
[18:37] <alkisg> and which cpu?
[18:37] <ibmr50e> yooooooooooooooooooooo are there custom themes for hexchat?
[18:37] <Sleaker> jk^: scroll down on that page and it has lower requirements depending on install type.
[18:38] <Sleaker> jk^: and those are the minimum requirements.
[18:40] <jk^> i'd need List of Minimum System Requirement for each distro, ubuntu and its flavours. But I can't find them. I'm trying by the page of each distro but if i remember well there is also a page on community site that list them
[18:40] <Jordan_U> jk^: What is your end goal?
[18:41] <jk^> no idea
[18:41] <ibmr50e> i know lubuntu requirements
[18:41] <ibmr50e> and ubuntu requirements are public too
[18:41] <jk^> Jordan_U, i don't know anyone of ubuntu distro, so i don't know which is the best for me
[18:43] <Jordan_U> jk^: I don't think that minimum requirements are really a good way to decide that. At "minimum" requirements you're not going to be happy using the computer for most tasks. Here are the minimum requirements for Lubuntu, the flavor tailored most to old low spec machines: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#System_Requirements
[18:43] <ibmr50e> i use lubuntu
[18:45] <Jordan_U> jk^: How much RAM do you have? What graphics card? What do you plan to do with your computer?
[18:45] <mutante> what's the point unless you actually have a bunch of Celerons any recent (as in the last 15 years?) PC will be "good enough"
[18:45] <jk^> why isn't there a list of those? :| i remember that list :\ at least on a community page :|
[18:47] <jk^> Jordan_U, this pc is old but maybe i need even for a more powerful pc, it is useful for me to know that minimum system requirements
[18:47] <jk^> however 2 GB RAM
[18:47] <mutante> jk^: maybe because it doesnt matter as much anymore as it used to back in the days
[18:47] <jk^> Graphics card i don't remember
[18:47] <mutante> jk^: how old is old for you?
[18:48] <rfleming> ibmr50e: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Hexchat+Themes
[18:50] <qazeeassad> hi
[18:50] <qazeeassad> how to make a file Executable?
[18:51] <jk^> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes?_ga=2.84395792.842698874.1512489726-2020163700.1511993359
[18:51] <jk^> i guess i could find them in that page
[18:51] <jk^> but they aren't
[18:52] <nsnzero> qazeeassad: chmod +x filename.ext
[18:52] <qazeeassad> thank you nsnzero
[18:52] <nsnzero> to run the file ./filename.ext
[18:52] <qazeeassad> yea... just forgot that +x
[18:53] <qazeeassad> thanks bro
[18:53] <nsnzero> you are welcome
[18:53] <jk^> however it's so strange there aren't the Minimum System Requirements anywhere on ubuntu sites and on Ubuntu's community pages :\ even for its flavours
[18:55] <qazeeassad> what is chmod 775 filename.ext used for?
[18:57] <mutante> qazeeassad: it let's the owner and the group read/write/execute and everybody else just read/execute the file
[18:57] <mutante> (whoever the owner and group is, that's another question)
[18:58] <qazeeassad> mutante, is it good to do chmod 775 after chmod +x??? or simply +x is sufficient...
[19:00] <mutante> qazeeassad: that all depends on what it was set to before and what you want to achieve
[19:01] <mutante> qazeeassad: if it's just to let a single user execute it, +x is sufficient
[19:01] <mutante> qazeeassad: 775 means that also other users who are in the same group might be able to execute it
[19:05] <qazeeassad> thanks a bundle... that helped a lot
[19:08] <mutante> qazeeassad: quite welcome
[19:09] <alkisg> jk^: nowadays, a distro can boot with 400 mb ram = minimum requirements, and then you'll want to open the browser = 2 GB ram minimum requirements
[19:09] <alkisg> jk^: i.e. if you need a browser, check ITS requirements, not the distro requirements
[19:09] <ibmr50e> jk^, dude there are requirements
[19:09] <ibmr50e> which requirements you want?
[19:09] <alkisg> The browser requirements are heavier and more significant than the OS requirements
[19:10] <alkisg> If you WONT be using a browser, then you can talk about minimum requirements for distros. That's why they're not as important anymore.
[19:13] <jk^> Excuse me, so many difficulties to understand even by translator... however i can't find any type for list of requirements :\ i'm searching on the flavours sites too :\ i can't find them :\
[19:13] <Sleaker> jk^: minimum requirements don't mean anything for the most part.
[19:13] <jk^> i found this
[19:13] <jk^> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu
[19:14] <Sleaker> if your use case is having a web browser, you need 2GB and some form of graphics acceleration
[19:14] <Sleaker> if not, then it's closer to 512mb of ram and any cpu made within the last 20 years.
[19:16] <jk^> ok, but are there some web pages on the ubuntu.com that explain all about that?
[19:16] <jk^> however i have 2 GB of RAM
[19:17] <Sleaker> jk^: cool, I'd suggest going with one of the lightweight versions then, like Xubuntu or LUbuntu
[19:17] <realies> ssh server takes ages to start (like a minute+ after im on the desktop)
[19:17] <realies> why?
[19:18] <leftyfb> realies: what version of ubuntu? What sort of hardware is this installed on?
[19:18] <jk^> ok sleaker but just to try or just to know, i'd like read some documents about minimum system requirements. I remember there are some pages about them, but i can't find them
[19:18] <jk^> :\
[19:18] <realies> leftyfb, 16.04, dualcore kabylake celeron with 4gb ram
[19:18] <Sleaker> jk^: why do minimum requiremnts matter so much to you?
[19:19] <realies> leftyfb, and an ssd
[19:19] <leftyfb> realies: non-standard/incorrect network settings? I've never seen that
[19:19] <jk^> They explain me which to choose, which to try even on different pcs :\
[19:20] <ibmr50e> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[19:20] <Sleaker> jk^: linux distributions take different amounts of memory dependant more on what they install by default and are configurable at the user level. anything beyond what you see is up to you to figure out if it works well for your use case.
[19:20] <Sleaker> if you want to keep ignoring what peopel are telling you in here that's fine.
[19:20] <realies> leftyfb, just installed openssh-server and did sudo systemctl enable ssh
[19:21] <Sleaker> just because you see a list of requirements doesn't mean your installation will get you what you want. so continually asking for information like that doesn't make sense.
[19:21] <realies> leftyfb, https://dpaste.de/4Pvg/raw
[19:22] <Sleaker> jk^: for instance, you said you had 2gb of memory, so I gave you 2 recommendations.
[19:24] <jk^> thanks Sleaker, but is useful for users know those requirements. However excuse for my english, not all u say, i understand...
[19:25] <Sleaker> jk^: you were given the official page, but apparently general guidelines aren't good enough for you.
[19:25] <madghost> hello masters of Linux, I need your help.
[19:25] <mutante> !ask
[19:25] <madghost> I installed Android 86x on my netbook, but it can't load, disk is not bootable :-( How I can fix it ?
[19:26] <jk^> Sleaker, the page i posted is about "Reccomended System Requirements".
[19:26] <leftyfb> madghost: your question is not related to Ubuntu and is not supported here.
[19:26] <jk^> I need "Minimun" ones and even for the differents flavours
[19:26] <Sleaker> jk^: yup, because there's very little use trying to pair down to a minimum.
[19:26] <madghost> I started Ubuntu live cd from USB, mount hard disk of my netbook, I see grub folder, but how I can make disk bootable ?
[19:27] <jk^> Just a while, i need translator
[19:27] <Sleaker> jk^: again, what use case is there for knowign that you can technically run ubuntu on 128mb of ram and a Pentium 1?
[19:27] <ppf> hi folks
[19:27] <ppf> since some time i don't receive any dhcp offers via ethernet
[19:28] <Sleaker> jk^: you've already stated that you have atleast 2gb of memory, so it's seems superfluous to talk about technical minimums.
[19:28] <madghost> leftyfb: yes, you are right, I just think it is a common problem
[19:28] <ppf> is there any thing i can do about this?
[19:28] <ppf> several machines on the networks don't have this issue, same machine can connect via wifi
[19:28] <leftyfb> madghost: running Android on a netbook is not common, nor supported by the Ubuntu community. Seek support from the Android on PC community.
[19:28] <madghost> and I write here from my Ubuntu system, I like this channel, and I think someone can help me with GRUB here (
[19:28] <madghost> ok, sorry
[19:29] <jk^> So poor english :\
[19:29] <dynaflash> Anyone know of or have any insight into an nfs plugin for nautilus or maybe a gui alternative?
[19:29] <jk^> i can't understand even by translator
[19:30] <Sleaker> jk^: for your situation treat the recommended requirements as minimums.
[19:30] <Sleaker> problem solved.
[19:35] <ibmr50e> jk^ is trolling hard
[19:36] <jk^> no, i'm not a troll
[19:36] <jk^> i'm just not expert about pc
[19:37] <qazeeassad> is anyone expert on the app FreetuxTV
[19:38] <leftyfb> jk^: you probably want #ubuntu-it
[19:38] <qazeeassad> I have it on my pc in Ubuntu. but it doesn't run properly
[19:39] <qazeeassad> when I click on its icon to start it, it displays listing channels, but exits without any erormessage or something
[19:46] <Neo1> Hi!
[19:46] <coder-bts> Hi
[19:46] <qazeeassad> HI
[19:47] <Neo1> How copy all files from directory to another?
[19:47] <Neo1> I did $ Sudo cp -r wordpress /var/www/test.american-chat.ru/public_html
[19:47] <Neo1> and get there full folder, but I need only content from that folder
[19:47] <coder-bts> qazeeassad: Sounds like Kodi
[19:48] <coder-bts> Neo1: go into the folder
[19:48] <coder-bts> Then
[19:48] <coder-bts> Cp -rf * #target
[19:48] <Neo1> coder-bts: and in tern each file?
[19:48] <Neo1> coder-bts: * ?
[19:49] <Neo1> mean take each file?
[19:49] <coder-bts> Right
[19:49] <Neo1> . mean one symbol?
[19:49] <qazeeassad> coder-bts: what is Kodi?
[19:49] <coder-bts> Google it
[19:49] <Neo1> coder-bts: I know Regular expression
[19:50] <coder-bts> Neo1: . Means the current path or hidden file, .. means previous path
[19:50] <qazeeassad> coder-bts: so you mean I should install Kodi instead of FreeTuxTV?
[19:50] <coder-bts> qazeeassad: I’m not a user of freetuxtv, I’m not sure sorry
[19:51] <qazeeassad> coder-bts, thank you for mentioning kodi, i'll try my luck with that
[19:51] <coder-bts> :)
[19:52] <Neo1> coder-bts: this help cp -r * /dest_path
[19:53] <coder-bts> Neo1: correct
[19:53] <Neo1> if I do cp -r kkk* /dest_path?
[19:53] <Neo1> it should take all files begin from kkk
[19:53]  * coder-bts busy now
[19:55] <Neo1> yes it's work, I tried
[19:55] <coder-bts> Great
[19:55] <coder-bts> Busy now
[19:55] <coder-bts> BRB
[19:56] <sigma__> Trying to run do-release-upgrade to go from 14.04.5 LTS to 16.04.3 LTS, but /boot is full. It suggests I run 'sudo apt autoremove', but that fails due to 'no space left on device' as well. Is there a safe way to manually clear up space on /boot? Or another method of resolving this issue?
[19:56] <Neo1> I did it cp -r xm* /var/www/test.american-chat.ru/
[19:56] <Neo1> and was copied only one file begin from xm
[19:57] <akik> sigma__: yes, remove a couple of unused initrds
[19:57] <sigma__> akik: Like /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-67-generic?
[19:57] <sigma__> uname -r prints "3.13.0-110-generic"
[19:58] <akik> sigma__: yes
[19:58] <sigma__> There are 7 initrd files in /boot. Is there a way to choose the safest ones to remove?
[19:58] <akik> sigma__: you can remove the older ones safely
[19:59] <skinux> This may be a stupid question, but is there any way I can make my laptop serve as an external storage media for a digital converter box (TV) to record onto?
[20:00] <multifractal> I plugged in my USB soundcard and it's listed as "1 [FCA1616]: USB-Audio - FCA1616 BEHRINGER FCA1616 at usb-0000:00:14.0-1, high speed" from `cat /proc/asound/cards`. But it's not in the list of devices in LMMS. What do I need to do to get the soundcard properly recognized?
[20:01] <qswz> how many .js files does the raw ubuntu have?
[20:01] <qswz> do you think
[20:01] <qswz> not many I guess
[20:01] <qswz> I mean when you just install ubuntu
[20:01] <sigma__> Thanks akik
[20:04] <roger_padactor_w> a little confused I moved a folder into /var/www/html dir and the dir i moved was created by my user it shows user and group as me, however when I try to access the dir I get permission denied.
[20:06] <roger_padactor_w> fixed
[20:07] <Ploppz> any idea how to solve this? https://bpaste.net/show/9c2912e69a27
[20:08] <Ploppz> oh that's right, following this https://github.com/neovim/neovim/wiki/Installing-Neovim#ubuntu
[20:09] <EriC^^> roger_padactor_w: access how
[20:09] <ioria> Ploppz, trusty is not supported anymore
[20:10] <ioria> Ploppz, https://launchpad.net/~neovim-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/stable
[20:10] <EriC^^> roger_padactor_w: type "ls -ld /var/www/html"
[20:10] <ioria> Ploppz, this is supported : https://launchpad.net/~neovim-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/unstable
[20:11] <Ploppz> Thanks!
[20:11] <ioria> np
[20:19] <AshIndigo> so ive been running the badblocks command on  a 1tb usb drive and i was wonder if a string of numbers of numbers incrementing up is the proper output?
[20:20] <AshIndigo> i.e 639175 639176 639177
[20:24] <Ploppz> trying to install this https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libpcre2-dev but `sudo apt-get install` doesn't find the package.. any idea
[20:24] <Ploppz> ?
[20:26] <ppf> the router doesn't receive my DHCPDISCOVER actually
[20:26] <ppf> but tcpdump shows traffic on the interface
[20:27] <ioria> Ploppz, are you on trusty 14.04  ?
[20:27] <ibmr50e> ploppz 2013 called they want ur distro back heh
[20:27] <Ploppz> ioria: yes
[20:28] <Ploppz> yeeah just trying to install something in a VM ...
[20:28] <ioria> Ploppz, don't you see that 14.04 it's not listed ?
[20:28] <Ploppz> no way to get it on 14.04?
[20:28] <ioria> !info libpcre3-dev trusty
[20:52] <mentalita> how can I make images not appear twice in taskbar
[20:52] <mentalita> there's an image of a launcher
[20:52] <mentalita> and when I start the app
[20:52] <mentalita> another instance apperas
[20:52] <mentalita> appears
[20:52] <mentalita> xubuntu
[21:04] <ibmr50e> yo guys, what light text editor you recommend using qt libraries?
[21:28] <Neo1> I estimate server response time for equal host and I got 0.39 for my current server http://kselax.kselax.ru and less then 0.2 for this http://test.american-chat.ru
[21:28] <Neo1> What does it mean?
[21:28] <Neo1> current:
[21:28] <Neo1> https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fkselax.kselax.ru%2F
[21:28] <Neo1> New on digitalocean:
[21:28] <Neo1> https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftest.american-chat.ru%2F
[21:28] <Neo1> it means on digital ocean server is better or what?
[21:29] <Neo1> digitalocean placed in Frankfurt, current in Moscow, but I test a few servers from Moscow like this site http://cyberforum.ru and it has low server response time
[21:29] <Neo1> it means server is bad yes?
[21:36] <Neo1> well, test show digitalocean is the best server
[21:47] <Neo1> who know how correctly set up permissions on site folder?
[21:47] <kenrin> site folder?
[21:48] <Neo1> owner root:root and 755, for test.american-chat.ru, inside this folder exists folder public_html and root:test with rights 775 because instead I can't reach it using sftp as user test
[21:49] <Neo1> kenrin: yes,  for folder should be rights 755 for files 644, I know it
[21:49] <Neo1> it's wordpress standard directory 755, files 644
[21:50] <kenrin> That sounds correct.  But it really depends on what you are running.  nginx would be different from apache.  and the MPM might run as nobody or the user itself
[21:50] <Neo1> but I can't put any plugins there and install wordpress in official way, my apache or php should create/edit file wp-config.php but they can't do it because owner root and for group rights 5 only execute and read
[21:51] <Neo1> kenrin: see /site_folder owner root:root , inside wp site
[21:52] <rainbowwarrior> hello, i am having problem installing java , i get this message :- E: Package 'oracle-java8-installer' has no installation candidate
[21:52] <rainbowwarrior>  , how can i fix please?
[21:52] <ibmr50e> need to add some good repositories friend
[21:52] <Neo1> kenrin: when we run site in browser we started installation and install.php should create wp-config.php inside folder /site_folder, but he can't do it, because he is not root and folder has right for group 775, and I doubt he is belonged to group, he is sooner others
[21:53] <kenrin> Check your http.conf and see what group it uses.  Then chown the files to that group.  Add any users that need access to the group too
[21:53] <Neo1> kenrin: well, I'm trying now
[21:54] <Neo1> would be good if I know where that httpd.conf...
[21:55] <kenrin> Probably under /etc/apache2/
[21:56] <Neo1> kenrin: seems in ubuntu exists default user or group nobody and nogroup, but this is not exactly...
[21:57] <rainbowwarrior> ty ibmr50e
[22:12]  * coder-bts is back
[22:13] <coder-bts> ibmr50e: I only use vim
[22:13]  * coder-bts BRB
[22:15] <mentalita> can someone please help me install latest java jre and jdk for ubuntu?
[22:16] <Neo1> how to output all directory started on letter p?
[22:16] <Neo1> with ls?
[22:17] <siva_machina> mentalita, do you explecitlly need the Oracle Java?
[22:17] <siva_machina> if you don't care
[22:18] <siva_machina> apt install default-jre default-jdk
[22:21] <jk^> is the procedure to fake pae applicable to every flavour, isn't?
[22:27] <Sleaker> jk^: pae is cpu level flag for 586 architecture CPUs.
[22:28] <Sleaker> jk^: what do you mean 'fake pae'
[22:28] <jk^> i read a post on wiki documentation
[22:29] <jk^> that's possibile apply procedure of fake pae not only on lubuntu 16.04.3
[22:29] <Sleaker> jk^: do you have a 64bit cpu?
[22:29] <jk^> but even on the other flavours
[22:29] <jk^> or ubuntu (main)
[22:29] <jk^> no
[22:29] <jk^> 32 bit
[22:29] <Sleaker> what cpu?
[22:29] <ibmr50e> i use fakepae
[22:29] <ibmr50e> used it to install and now i use it to run my system
[22:30] <Sleaker> jk^: if you are on the wiki it says fake-pae is depcrecated and the correct method in newer version is forcepae instead.
[22:30] <jk^> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE
[22:31] <jk^> A. Install 16.04.1 LTS as described at the top of the page. For most users this is the easiest and best solution.
[22:31] <Sleaker> jk^: are you sure you even need to force it?
[22:32] <jk^> yes
[22:32] <jk^> several days ago i run a pendrive
[22:32] <jk^> live usb
[22:32] <jk^> with ubuntu
[22:32] <jk^> it shows me the error PAE
[22:33] <Sleaker> it's a kernel option so it should work as long as the kernel has the option enabled.
[22:34] <ibmr50e> you have to press F6
[22:34] <ibmr50e> on first screen
[22:34] <jk^> just a moment
[22:34] <ibmr50e> and type forcepae into bar
[22:34] <jk^> i think my cpu haven't pae
[22:34] <ibmr50e> and you can try ubuntu live
[22:35] <ibmr50e> your PC is potato
[22:35] <jk^> the page i linked show procedure for "lubuntu"
[22:35] <jk^> but i read that it's possibile even for ubuntu and for the all other flavours
[22:35] <ibmr50e> i checked and you cant have ubuntu
[22:35] <Sleaker> jk^: sure. kernel options should work the same if you're running the same kernel.
[22:36] <jk^> why ibmr50e?
[22:39] <jk^> i can't found the URL i would show u
[22:40] <jk^> "Follow the instructions below to install or upgrade a Ubuntu (or any flavor) system with a Pentium M processor that doesn't announce its PAE support. "
[22:40] <jk^> this page is refer to Pentium M
[22:41] <Bashing-om> jk^: ' cat /proc/cpuinfo ' look in the flags field for pae . ' grep -w lm /proc/cpuinfo ' "lm" in red ,, then it is a 64 bit processor .
[22:43] <jk^> just a moment
[22:43] <jk^> are they command for linux?
[22:44] <Bashing-om> jk^: Affirmed .. linux terminal commands .
[22:44] <jk^> at the moment i'm on win
[22:45] <jk^> i just want to know if the procedure for fake/force pae is suitable for ubuntu and all of its flavours or just for lubuntu?
[22:47] <ibmr50e> it worked for me in both ubuntu and lubuntu
[22:47] <ibmr50e> just added forcepae to startup command line
[22:47] <jk^> not just forcepae
[22:47] <ibmr50e> but I have Pentium M
[22:51] <sakhd> hi, is it possible in Ubuntu to change a character for one certain key? For example when I press № (in Russian layout) I want it to be # (American) without changing layout
[22:51] <Ben64> yes it is possible, you'd have to manually edit stuff though, it's not really intuitive
[22:53] <ibmr50e> its possible
[22:53] <ibmr50e> and not that hard friend
[22:54] <ibmr50e> but you want it permanently right?
[22:55] <senaps> i have upgraded to ubuntu 17.10( from 17.04). i can't move windows to different workspaces anymore.
[22:58] <sakhd> ibmr50e, yes
[23:04] <Neo1> I added root to apache group did this:
[23:04] <Neo1> usermod -a -G www-data root
[23:04] <jk^> [23:47] <ibmr50e> just added forcepae to startup command line
[23:04] <jk^> [23:48] <jk^> not just forcepae
[23:04] <jk^> [23:48] <ibmr50e> but I have Pentium M
[23:04] <jk^> Now a string of options is visible, often with 'quiet' or 'quiet splash --' at the end. Add 'forcepae' to the string before and after the two dashes ("forcepae -- forcepae").
[23:05] <jk^> but i don't have pentium M
[23:05] <Neo1> and put on folder /var/www permission 775
[23:05] <jk^> i have celeron M
[23:05] <Neo1> how to look what group belong root?
[23:05] <jk^> That procedure is suitable for ubuntu and for all its flavours? Or just for lubuntu? :\ I need to know that...
[23:05] <jk^> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE
[23:06] <Neo1> on ubuntu apache2 belong to www-data group
[23:06] <jk^> PAE, Physical Address Extension
[23:06] <jk^> A guide for getting computers with older Pentium M and Celeron M processors to work with the latest Lubuntu
[23:06] <Neo1> I should add root to group www-data and make permission on folder with my sites 775? Yes?
[23:07] <Neo1> this is allow Apache make there changes and root
[23:08] <Neo1> oh no, it's wrong?
[23:08] <Neo1> should to do opposite, www-data set to root group because all folders belongs to root group
[23:11] <Neo1> I set root to www-data group, how I can output all group for user root?
[23:13] <teward> Neo1: uhm... why are you messing with the `root` user?
[23:13] <teward> or the `www-data` user?
[23:13] <teward> you shouldn't have to modify their memberships
[23:13] <teward> what're you trying to achieve ultimately?
[23:13] <Neo1> I did this
[23:13] <Neo1> cat /etc/group and see this
[23:13] <Neo1> www-data:x:33:root
[23:13] <Neo1> Before I had done it
[23:13] <Neo1> usermod -a -G www-data root ?
[23:14] <teward> that doesn't answer my question
[23:14] <Neo1> teward: because folder /var/www belongs to root:root
[23:14] <teward> you didn't answer my question
[23:14] <teward> [2017-12-05 18:13:53] <teward> what're you trying to achieve ultimately?
[23:15] <Neo1> oh I did not right should ppesite www-data add to root group
[23:15] <Neo1> teward: what the answer? Why I use root?
[23:15] <Neo1> teward: shan't I use it?
[23:16] <teward> Neo1: the proper thing to do is leave /var/www/ alone, create subdirectories for a given site, then change ownership of that sub directory to www-data directly rather than try and make the root user or the www-data user have access to each other's data.
[23:16] <teward> it's a very detailed process, but...
[23:17] <brym> Neo1: better to sudo su if you want to perform tasks as root. or as teward says, create virtual hosts in apache.
[23:17] <teward> ^ this
[23:17] <Neo1> brym: no I want make Apache possible modify files for sites, now i can't install any plugins on site
[23:17] <teward> You might find point #1 in my answer to a question about permissions and web servers on Ubuntu relevant - https://askubuntu.com/questions/767504/permissions-problems-with-var-www-html-and-my-own-home-directory-for-a-website/767534#767534
[23:18] <Neo1> site ask sftp access
[23:19] <jk^> anyone can help me?
[23:19] <brym> try this rackspace link for a good tutorial on virtualhosts: https://support.rackspace.com/how-to/set-up-apache-virtual-hosts-on-ubuntu/
[23:20] <brym> Neo1: regarding sftp, i'd personally prefer scp as opposed to sftp
[23:20] <teward> brym: if it's Wordpress it's looking for localhost FTP/FTPS access.
[23:20] <teward> which isn't *that* hard to set up, but... eh
[23:21] <teward> but we're without a lot of info needed to help debug the issue.
[23:21] <brym> it's not. just personal preference :)
[23:21] <Neo1> see I added neo and root to www-data group, and neo in sudo also http://prntscr.com/hjmcce
[23:21] <Neo1> I've learnt this command usermod -a -G usergoup username
[23:23] <Neo1> I want add www-data to root group and put on folder /var/www with owner root and group root permission 775.
[23:23] <Neo1> will only apache and root abole to change files
[23:31] <brym> Neo1: keep it as it is mate. it's not broken. it's permitted this way to avoid nasty mistakes like accidental deletion, overwriting config files incorrectly causing runtime errors, etc. as the expression goes, if it isn't broke, don't fix it ;)
[23:32] <jk^> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE/PentiumM
[23:32] <jk^> Follow the instructions below to install or upgrade a Ubuntu (or any flavor) system with a Pentium M processor that doesn't announce its PAE support.
[23:32] <jk^> it says "Ubuntu or any flavor" :\ but that guide is for Pentium M, i have Celeron M :\
[23:32] <jk^> I need to know if the procedure to fake/force pae is suitable even for ubuntu and for all its flavours :\
[23:33] <realies> tryinna start screen from rc.local
[23:33] <realies> but it doesn't like it
[23:34] <realies> su - myUser -c "screen -dmS session /home/myUser/Documents/test.sh"
[23:34] <realies> this makes screen exit straight away, when not having su - myUser -c it works as expected
[23:38] <lordcirth> jk^, you have a 32bit system with more than 4GB of RAM?
[23:38] <Jordan_U> realies: What is the contents of test.sh?
[23:38] <jk^> no, lord4163
[23:38] <jk^> lordcirth, no
[23:38] <jk^> why do u ask that to me?
[23:39] <lordcirth> jk^, I'm wondering why you need to force PAE on?
[23:39] <realies> Jordan_U, starts an executable with some parameters, having !#/bin/bash as the first line
[23:39] <lordcirth> Or do all 32bit Ubuntu images now require PAE?
[23:40] <Jordan_U> realies: What executable? Please pastebin the full contents.
[23:40] <jk^> lordcirth, several days ago i boot a live usb with ubuntu, it tells me that my cpu doesn't have pae
[23:40] <realies> Jordan_U, i cant, an executable in the folder of the script called as ./executable
[23:41] <Jordan_U> realies: OK. I can't help you then.
[23:41] <realies> sure you can
[23:41] <realies> but that's fine
[23:41] <jk^> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE/
[23:41] <jk^> I need to know if the procedure at that link to fake/force pae is suitable even for ubuntu and for all its flavours :\
[23:41] <Jordan_U> realies: I refuse to. Maybe someone else will be willing to, but I don't like tiptoeing around secret configurations when trying to debug issues.
[23:42] <lordcirth> jk^, it's an official doc.  Do you have reason to believe it wouldn't work?
[23:42] <realies> it's a two line script, as I've said first line #!/bin/bash, second calling an executable within the folder as ./executable -parameters
[23:43] <TaZeR> its probably to launder bitcoins from the darknetmarkets or something
[23:43] <realies> without the su - myUser -c part the screen works all good
[23:43] <jk^> lordcirth, in that official doc it talks just about "Lubuntu"
[23:43] <jk^> not "ubuntu" e not all the others flavours
[23:44] <lordcirth> jk^, well, that's probably because any computer that old should probably be running Lubuntu.  But the Ubuntu kernel should be the same across all.
[23:44] <lordcirth> Actually, they probably copied the page from a Lubuntu guide somewhere
[23:58] <realies> ssh server starts pretty slow
[23:58] <realies> on boot
[23:59] <realies> how do i figure out why?