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Unit193bluesabre: So, I guess that wouldn't be tonight then. :P05:17
flocculantbluesabre: ha ha 06:07
Unit193Oh right, flocculant!06:23
Unit193Boop.06:23
flocculantyea that's fine - go for it :)06:23
Unit193Done!06:25
flocculantk06:36
flocculantback later06:36
Unit193Byebyebyebye.06:36
slickymasterWorkknome, I already have a brief description of Atril, Engrampa and Mate Calculator to the -docs08:38
slickymasterWorkwill push them to the branch tonight or tomorrow08:38
knomeslickymasterWork, you can't push to my branch though09:27
slickymasterWorkno, to yours I can't :P09:29
slickymasterWorkwhat we can do is you push yours into main and afterwards I'll push the descriptions09:29
knomebluesabre, are the mate apps in our seed already?09:29
slickymasterWorkwhat do you think?09:29
knomeor you just create a new branch based on mine09:29
knomeeg. pull it, then push to your personal repo09:30
slickymasterWorkor that, :P09:30
slickymasterWorkif bluesabre haven't seeded them yet, I'll go that way09:30
knomemy branch is a trivial change anyway09:30
slickymasterWorkhm hm09:31
knomeso i don't even care if i have a commit or chbgelog entry for that09:31
knomechangelog09:31
knomesigh at phone kb09:31
slickymasterWorkyeps09:31
knomebbabl09:33
bluesabreknome, yup, been there since about 2 days after we agreed on them12:26
slickymasterWorkthanks for the heads up, bluesabre 12:30
slickymasterWorkknome, I'll be pushing the descriptions to the main branch then12:31
bluesabre(feel free to take the bionic daily for a spin and report bugs) :-)12:34
slickymasterWorkbeen doing that for a few weeks now, bluesabre 12:35
slickymasterWorkeven with the PPAs12:35
slickymasterWorkthis week is core time though 12:35
bluesabreslickymasterWork: very nice :)12:36
slickymasterWork:P12:36
slickymasterWorkUnit193, both in VMware12:46
slickymasterWork17.10 installed fine12:46
slickymasterWork18.04 crashed immediately after copying the initial files 12:47
slickymasterWorkno crash log detected to paste you12:47
slickymasterWorkwill install both tonight in my Asus Eee PC12:48
slickymasterWorkUnit193, managed to get a print screen just before 18.04 crashed15:09
slickymasterWorkhttps://imgur.com/a/id9Ze15:09
flocculantevening 17:46
slickymasterWorkevening flocculant 17:48
flocculanthi slickymasterWork 17:49
flocculantochosi: notifications doesn't appear to be logging tbird currently, was fine this morning17:51
flocculantochosi: funnily enough - 2 of the mails it's not logging are from the error tracker about xfce4-notifyd :P17:53
slickymasterWorklol don't deal properly with self, flocculant 17:54
ochosiflocculant: what do you mean by "not logging tbird"? did you update notifyd since this morning..?19:41
flocculantochosi: just in time :p19:41
flocculantwas just about to say more lol19:41
flocculanttbird notifications look very hit and miss - some get notified, some don't - maybe filters in tbird affect it 19:42
flocculantand no I turned pc off at ~06:4019:43
ochosithat's weird19:43
ochosiso you log all of them and some appear but are not in the log..?19:43
flocculantochosi: yea19:45
flocculantbut 19:45
flocculantdon't know if this is something it would 'always or normally' do - I'm just looking at it cos you asked19:46
knomebluesabre, slickymaster: ack19:52
ochosiflocculant: very strange. what types of notifications are those then that don't get logged?20:11
ochosijust fyi, so-called "transient" notifications don't ever get logged20:11
ochosithat's part of the notification standard20:11
ochosiso possibly some tbird notifications are marked as transient20:11
ochosi(like e.g. audio-volume notifications or brightness-change notifications in xfpm 1.6.1)20:11
flocculantochosi: ok - perhaps that's what it is then20:42
flocculantochosi: mmm - just had the notify icon change to tell me of track changes in clementine, I turned clementine off about 45 minutes ago20:57
flocculantcatch comments tomorrow - night all21:04
Unit193slickymaster: Oh right, should say thanks!  Bionic isn't as much of a worry right now, though that's a be disturbing.21:07
ochosiUnit193: any blockers to get xkb-plugin 0.8.x in bionic?21:16
ochosithat's one of the things i noticed that we're missing21:16
Unit193It was in a PPA somewhere I think.21:17
ochosiit has quite a few nice improvements over the fairly old and busted 0.7.121:17
ochosi(i know 0.7.1 is not *that* old ;))21:17
ochosicould also start with it in the staging PPA21:18
Unit193~/Downloads/xfce4-gtk3/xfce4-xkb-plugin-0.8.1 see?  Is it in a PPA somewhere?21:18
ochosinot that i know of21:18
ochosii think we just overlooked it21:18
Unit193Was in xfce4-gtk3.21:18
ochosi(so far)21:18
ochosiah ok21:18
Unit193No, because I have it, packaged.21:19
ochosi:)21:19
ochosiwe == everyone but Unit193 21:19
Unit193Dowh. :(21:19
ochosiin the list of packages to get into bionic we overlooked it21:19
Unit193Aha.21:19
ochosii had forgotten about it and nobody else mentioned i21:19
ochosit21:19
Unit193Well, it seems to have fallen out when we moved from xfce4-gtk3 to experimental.21:20
ochosianything else we're missing from there that's a potential candidate?21:23
Unit193Want to know our delta to Debian (vcs) if I upload xkb? :P21:26
Unit193http://paste.openstack.org/show/PTajaBLuv168daE2P33d/ :P21:27
Unit193ochosi: I'm not seeing anything other than perhaps whisker and pa-pl need bumped.21:29
Unit193ochosi: I'm looking at https://sigma.unit193.net/~unit193/xfce412.html though.21:32
ochosiheh, nice diff21:33
ochosiwow, debian has xfce4-settings 4.13.1?21:36
ochosifwiw, screenshooter seems fine it its gtk3 version21:36
ochosino differences that are noticeable21:36
Unit1931. Experimental, remember that polls experimental.  2. screenshooter is "stable", but depends on development libs so is in limbo (and a bit crappy too, but meh.)21:37
Unit193...Wait, did I just say that with my Debian hat on? :321:38
ochosi:)21:41
ochosidepends on devel libs?21:41
ninetlsbluesabre: I know this is not a good place to make such requests but I'll ask anyway21:42
ninetlsirrc you are developing lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings, isn't it?21:43
ninetlsI noticed that it supports to be plugged in xfce4-settings window21:44
ninetlsbut it doesn't work since X-XfcePluggable=true is not set in lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings.desktop21:44
ninetlsI know that this configuration tool is not related to xfce but it contains code to support xfce4-settings plug!21:45
ninetlshow about enabling it?21:45
ninetlsochosi: he probably means that libexo-2 is only available in exo 0.11.x which is development release21:52
ochosiah ok21:52
ninetlsbut being development release it's the only version that supports gtk321:53
ninetls0.10.x provided libexo-1 only with gtk2 dependency21:53
ochosii think that lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings *is* pluggable21:54
ochosiat least it is here21:54
ninetlsprobably ubuntu patch21:54
ninetlsbut not in upstream21:54
ochosihttp://i.imgur.com/xihaT77.png21:54
ochosiubuntu is pretty upstreamish for greeter-settings21:55
Unit193export PYBUILD_INSTALL_ARGS=--xfce-integration21:55
Unit193No patches.21:55
ninetlshttps://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lightdm-gtk-greeter-team/lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings/trunk/view/head:/lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings.desktop.in21:55
ninetlsoh21:55
ninetlsthere is an arg21:56
ninetlsseems that arch maintainers don't know about it21:57

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