[02:40] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> I did not use phablet-shell before, but now I noticed that it seems not to be using no authentication at all, is that actually the case?
[02:42] <tgBot> <UniversalSuperBox> Should be using certificates
[02:43] <tgBot> <UniversalSuperBox> At least that's what the errors have indicated to me
[02:43] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> but how would that work? is that a general global certificate accepted by all UT devices?
[02:43] <tgBot> <UniversalSuperBox> No, your key is copied to the device when you use the command
[02:44] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> oh so it will use a key if I just happen to have one on my client machine?
[02:44] <tgBot> <UniversalSuperBox> Yep
[02:44] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> I see, thank you!
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[02:59] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> @UniversalSuperBox, i just read the script, so it became clear that it finds the newest key: … NEWEST_KEY=$(ls -t ~/.ssh/*.pub | grep -v — -cert.pub | head -1)
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[03:36] <tgBot> <Tina119> @s8321414, 👌
[05:02] <tgBot> <padraic7a> @dohbee, ubuntu-app-launch: command not found
[05:34] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> to those who use apt-get either on UT or on vivid chroot alike, today vivid sources stopped working (I mean I only noticed today) so you need to change all the sources in your /etc/apt/sources.list from "http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/" to "http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/"
[05:41] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> that said, we're expired on vivid :/
[05:51] <tgBot> <padraic7a> @padraic7a, Ah, thinking I should have done this in the chroot. Will do later today.
[06:21] <tgBot> <Montefrio> :)
[08:19] <tgBot> <Rocco> Hi all... I have this issue: … The command "adb devices" give me this result "xxxxxxx  offline". … My Oneplus One is always offline. I have yet enabled developer mode toggle... any ideas?
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[08:29] <tgBot> <lduboeuf> Rocco have your tried `sudo adb kill-server && sudo adb start-server`
[08:29] <tgBot> <lduboeuf> your device is recognized by your OS ?
[08:29] <tgBot> <lduboeuf> and you unlocked your screen on device ?
[08:32] <tgBot> <TronFortyTwo> @Rocco, You can try type in your phone terminal ```android-gadget-service enable adb``|
[08:40] <tgBot> <Rocco> @lduboeuf, Yes... without sudo
[08:41] <tgBot> <Rocco> @lduboeuf, Recognised. Yes
[08:41] <tgBot> <Rocco> @lduboeuf, Done also this
[08:42] <tgBot> <lduboeuf> @Rocco, sorry of course
[08:42] <tgBot> <Rocco> @TronFortyTwo, Ah ok... I'll try this. Thanks
[08:43] <tgBot> <Rocco> @lduboeuf, Thanks for helping... I done all this things. I don't know what's the problem
[08:51] <tgBot> <TomasOqvist> @Rocco, I believe your problem is related to this bug: https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/13 … It is a long time since I got adb working properly with my OPO. However, I get it to show itself as online once in a while by toggling developer mode, opening terminal on the phone, etc., but often it won't show anything but offline. Therefore, I connect to the phone over ssh instead. Works much better and no cables needed (of course, thi
[08:51] <tgBot> won't do you any good if you try to flash the phone). Anyway, @KrisJacewicz has written a blog post about UT with ssh here: http://kriscode.blogspot.se/2017/12/ssh-and-ubuntu-touch.html
[09:32] <tgBot> <Stereofont> @Seannyboy, Ha. That's two for a Gaelic group 😎
[09:36] <tgBot> <olisax> Hello ! To flash UT with UBPortsInstaller/CPT/MDT, a common prerequisite is to enable developper mode/ADB debugging on device and to install ADB drivers on computer, right ?
[09:37] <tgBot> <Stereofont> @olisax, Exactly right. Also phablet tools
[09:38] <tgBot> <Stereofont> With old Mediatek devices you may have to overcome the bootloader first
[09:39] <tgBot> <olisax> It's for FP2 so I think checking that  "adb devices" is returning the device id could be enough...
[09:44] <tgBot> <Rocco> @TomasOqvist, Thanks... I'll read it
[09:44] <tgBot> <Rocco> (Sticker, 357x512) https://irc.ubports.com/ap3GL6Tb/file_2725
[09:47] <tgBot> <Stereofont> @olisax, That is an indicator. It isn't enough
[09:55] <tgBot> <Seannyboy> @Stereofont, Its a small group of irish for sure but that means we need to spread the word. Happy the ubuntu touch has grown legs again.
[10:04] <tgBot> <Stereofont> @Seannyboy, I don't mean myself but you are the second I have seen
[10:27] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> in case someone is using apt-get directly on UT, perhaps you will want to use a little tool that can move some of your data from system partition into the userspace, so that you end up having more free space, I uploaded it here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/all-things-ubuntu-library/?source=navbar … just download, extract, and run over ssh with x forwarding, it will install itself to your Apps. Or manually create launcher for it, then no 
[10:28] <tgBot> forwarding. … I am using it now that I hv couple of UT phones and am doing different things on them. Also, this tool will gradually get more and more functions, also the full source will go online. … It uses gksudo for where it needs root priviledge, so to use that you need to:  … $ sudo apt-get install gksu maliit-inputcontext-gtk2 … IF you cannot apt-get because of vivid sources changed today, you can either update them manually or over ssh with x f
[10:28] <tgBot> ./ATU_arm-linux and it will let you to fix the sources with a button, then apt-get will work again.
[10:28] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/l6VWsSxl/file_2727.jpg it now uses this random icon: "All Things Ubuntu"
[10:28] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/0VnlEUVA/file_2729.jpg when opens go to "About" Tab
[10:28] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/0sTflb7I/file_2731.jpg in the bottom click on the root tools
[10:28] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/5qz8Q0JZ/file_2733.jpg gksudo will ask you for sudo password
[10:29] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/KrvX7bon/file_2735.jpg click the "scan" button
[10:29] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/f42EnLtY/file_2737.jpg it will load all the folders in your /usr/share that are bigger than 10MB, you can select any and use "move to userspace" to move it, it will update your free space, see now it's only 9.7M free
[10:29] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/Rz59TTae/file_2739.jpg after moving, it increased to 70MB
[10:45] <tgBot> <lduboeuf> cool  :)
[10:48] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> @Federico, you can also use this tool if you still have problem due to deleted nvram, there is NVRAM tab in the root tools and currently it can fix your Wifi profiles that gets broken due to random MAC addressing
[10:48] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> I have wiped my nvram on my MX4, so yeah :/
[10:51] <tgBot> <Federico> unfortunately my nephew dropped my primary phone so I'm using now my BQ with Android until I buy a new one (because I needed a full working whatsapp for work) 😭
[10:56] <tgBot> <samitormanen> Very useful tools Kris! Thanks 👍
[10:57] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> (Photo, 768x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/bB7cZ3sS/file_2741.jpg also on my other phone I still have't updated sources.list, so...
[10:57] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> (Photo, 768x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/NjJJ8Nne/file_2743.jpg if you run root tools it will know that you need to update and show you a button to fix it, then apt-get update will work
[10:58] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> @samitormanen, just a top of an iceberg, there is much more functionality in the pipeline
[11:53] <tgBot> <TronFortyTwo> @KrisJacewicz If I remember correctly, have you done a script to automate the ssh X forwarding process, don't you?
[11:54] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> @TronFortyTwo, yes but I will have GUI for that as well
[11:55] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/D4yhq5VS/file_2745.jpg on the Apps tab there is a sample command, just replace with your username and IP and try how nicely apps work over compressed x forwarding!
[11:55] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/bihXjflp/file_2747.jpg super responsive actually
[11:58] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/SqzOjjQR/file_2749.jpg Telegram super smooth as well, this phone doesnt have matchbox installed, other wise it'd go fullscreen
[11:59] <tgBot> <TronFortyTwo> Could you share the link to the script please? I plan to package and publish all that stuff in the OpenStore so that can be easily installed, if this is not a problem for you.
[12:02] <tgBot> <TronFortyTwo> You published that on SourceForge iirc
[12:02] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> https://sourceforge.net/projects/ssh-pull-id/
[12:04] <tgBot> <TronFortyTwo> thanks
[12:07] <tgBot> <pablochere> @KrisJacewicz, Kris, is there a guide for dummies anywhere? It looks awesome.
[12:08] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> @pablochere, no, if you want just download the app ant try out anything except root tools
[12:08] <tgBot> <pablochere> ok, thanks. You made a great job.
[12:10] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> @pablochere, I mean that is nothing yet, super rough around the edges and does not do much, you can play with it but wait a month or so, it will get usefull then
[12:10] <tgBot> <pablochere> @KrisJacewicz, I love the concept. I will be waiting.
[12:14] <tgBot> <TronFortyTwo> It's all things ubuntu also available on sourceforge?
[12:19] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/GgYptb0z/file_2751.jpg LOL, Far Cry on UT, hahaha
[12:19] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/mpQvAd8l/file_2753.jpg will restart in landscape mode
[12:21] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> @TronFortyTwo, yes but only pre-compiled app for arm, no sources or other platforms yet, so you can dl and extract onto your ut
[12:21] <tgBot> <TronFortyTwo> ok thanks
[12:22] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/zgNdaKGg/file_2755.jpg trying in landscape
[12:22] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/XnO4I2gq/file_2757.jpg
[12:22] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/GgmaXOjl/file_2759.jpg LOL
[12:23] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> it is running off my Ubuntu desktop in wine, and ssh forwarded to my UT phone
[12:23] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> sound plays fom the PC, because I did not use any pulse audio forwarding
[12:24] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/6bGo17We/file_2761.jpg
[12:25] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> just a toy, but nice
[12:36] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/8RKTirtG/file_2763.jpg hedgewars totally playable, super smooth!
[12:36] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/iXsWpVyu/file_2765.jpg but in the ladscape some parts go off-screen, so I play in the landscape
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[13:07] <tgBot> <neothethird> @KrisJacewicz, haha, ncie
[13:13] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> @neothethird, not very practical at this point yet but lot of fun
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[13:27] <tgBot> <dohbee> @padraic7a, No, on the host.
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[14:22] <tgBot> <Seumas> I'll say I can speak a little (ruhd beag!) Gaelic, but primarily an English speaker so still probably not enough folk for a group in that language.
[14:41] <tgBot> <Seannyboy> Ana mhaith :)
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[15:34] <tgBot> <olisax> @TomasOqvist, Cool, I'll try Kris tutorial ! I never succeeded to setup the key exchange for SSH, so I'm stuck with ADB Shell 😉
[15:36] <tgBot> <dohbee> phablet-shell should generate a new ssh key and copy it to the device so you can ssh in, i think
[15:48] <tgBot> <TomasOqvist> @olisax, ssh works really well once you get it set up. I really love the sshfs thing, viewing your phone in nautilus as mtp isn't working for OPO.
[15:58] <tgBot> <olisax> Is there a way to autocomplete (with "TAB"?) when typing on UbuntuTouch terminal ?
[15:58] <tgBot> <UniversalSuperBox> Tap the terminal itself
[15:58] <tgBot> <UniversalSuperBox> Anywhere will do
[15:59] <jayarcs> Do I have a hope in hell of getting debian stretch (which supports aarch pretty well) on to an Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Ed?
[15:59] <jayarcs> I'm very interested in getting gnome shell on a tablet. x86 atom may be my only hope?
[16:00] <tgBot> <olisax> @UniversalSuperBox, Sweeeeeet ❤️ I'll gain a lot of frustration with this tip, thanks Dalton !
[16:00] <tgBot> <olisax> I'll remove frustration*
[16:00] <jayarcs> You can get to previous commands in the term by dragging a finger upwards
[16:00] <tgBot> <UniversalSuperBox> jayarcs, Ubuntu Touch uses libhybris to use Android drivers under Linux. I'm almost entirely sure that there are no drivers for graphics, GPS, or even touchscreen in the mainline kernel.
[16:00] <tgBot> <olisax> @jayarcs, Cool as well 😊
[16:01] <tgBot> <UniversalSuperBox> So you'd have to figure out how to use libhybris under Stretch, which would require you rebuild your Wayland compositor to use libhybris, which... Yeah, I only faintly understand what I'm talking about, but it isn't easy.
[16:01] <jayarcs> Yow yeah
[16:01] <jayarcs> This...
[16:01] <jayarcs> https://github.com/bq/aquaris-M10
[16:02] <tgBot> <UniversalSuperBox> unfortunately that won't include glibc-compatible drivers for much of the hardware
[16:02] <jayarcs> Ok yeah that's over then for me. Not going to that extent I'd love to have the time
[16:04] <tgBot> <olisax> cat: /home/phablet/.ssh/authorized_keys : No such file or directory
[16:04] <tgBot> <olisax> Do I have to create it before?
[16:04] <jayarcs> So it's off topic but off the top of your head would an atom based x86 tablet work? Will I be stuck with limited 32bit packages?
[16:04] <jayarcs> Yeah mkdir ~/.ssh
[16:04] <tgBot> <arudy> (Sticker, 512x339) https://irc.ubports.com/LcaEBChm/file_2770
[16:04] <tgBot> <arudy> @arudy, When i see all the new screenshots
[16:04] <tgBot> <olisax> ok 😊
[16:06] <tgBot> <UniversalSuperBox> @jayarcs, I have an Asus Transformerbook T300 Chi. Perfectly acceptable tablet, runs GNU/Linux fairly well. Couple problems, like the rotation sensor is 90 degrees off. Could probably fix it if I was particularly clever.
[16:06] <tgBot> <UniversalSuperBox> I believe the T100 chi, its little brother, is about as well supported. You'll have to do some research on that, though.
[16:07] <jayarcs> That sounds do-able. I make a very dark/black theme for gnome/gtk etc... and would like to test it on touch
[16:07] <jayarcs> https://github.com/jayarc/adaptdark - For those who like it dark and run gnome shell. Thank you Uni for your help, saved me much time!
[16:07] <tgBot> <UniversalSuperBox> The predecessor, the Transformerbook T100 (no chi) is really popular in the portable Linux world for some reason.
[16:08] <jayarcs> Gotcha
[16:08] <tgBot> <UniversalSuperBox> Should be able to get that guy cheap?
[16:08] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> @jayarcs, if gnome/gtk than your theme will only be applied to xmir apps I think
[16:08] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> I mean, IDK, just assuming
[16:08] <tgBot> <UniversalSuperBox> Sure, but that's not really what he's talking about
[16:09] <jayarcs> @UniversalSuperBox - I will check out the T300 that looks pretty perfect
[16:09] <tgBot> <KrisJacewicz> i see, but I want to know this, does UT currently allow for switching themes?
[16:10] <jayarcs> @KrisJacewicz - This is true but I'm not spending any more time on anything Unity. Even before it was unsupported I really did not like it one bit. I'm focused on contributing to Gnome as well, pretty particularly.
[16:10] <jayarcs> I know that may sadden some here... Sorry
[16:11] <tgBot> <UniversalSuperBox> @jayarcs, Words of warning: The T300CHI keyboard fn-keys don't work under Linux and Gnome's brightness control will sometimes smash the brightness to 100% randomly while adjusting. It seems like every new version of Linux will fix one thing and break another. It's not a perfect experience.
[16:11] <tgBot> <UniversalSuperBox> Choice is the best feature of desktop Linux
[16:12] <jayarcs> @UniversalSuperBox - I've been running linux as my main OS since Madrake was the hotness, those are tiny little problems :P
[16:12] <jayarcs> I'll take choice every time
[16:12] <tgBot> <UniversalSuperBox> Also, like I said before, the rotation sensor is always 90 degrees off.
[16:13] <tgBot> <UniversalSuperBox> The pen digitizer works, though. So that's neat.
[16:13] <jayarcs> I'll do some googling before jumping in, that sounds configurable to me
[16:13] <jayarcs> Super cool, I do use inkscape
[16:18] <jayarcs> @UniversalSuperBox - I see on the debian wiki manual rotation works for the T300, works for me
[16:22] <tgBot> <UniversalSuperBox> Looking here? http://www.linlap.com/asus_transformer_book_t300_chi
[16:23] <tgBot> <UniversalSuperBox> Ah, right. Multi-touch trackpad doesn't work either. Forgot about that
[16:35] <tgBot> <wayneoutthere> @Stereofont, every time I see 'Broin" i keep thinking about "Joe in" (here)...
[16:38] <tgBot> <wayneoutthere> @UniversalSuperBox, do we have a useful 'hot tips' for terminal usage guide or video?
[16:38] <tgBot> <UniversalSuperBox> no
[16:41] <tgBot> <wayneoutthere> @UniversalSuperBox, oh.
[17:22] <tgBot> <Jaume81> @UniversalSuperBox, 🍾🤙🏻 Greats news!!
[17:41] <tgBot> <wayneoutthere> @Jaume81, does Ubuntu Touch run on this thing?  I remember the transformer...
[17:42] <tgBot> <wayneoutthere> I guess we are talking about porting to it?
[17:43] <tgBot> <UniversalSuperBox> No need.
[17:44] <tgBot> <UniversalSuperBox> It's a standard computer.
[17:44] <tgBot> <wayneoutthere> woah.  I could Gnome myself on it?
[17:44] <tgBot> <UniversalSuperBox> Sure
[17:44] <tgBot> <wayneoutthere> dear me and my
[17:44] <tgBot> <wayneoutthere> sounds excitant as the french might say
[19:32] <tgBot> <gouchi> :)
[20:39] <tgBot> <wilder_Hund> Does uMatrix work with tchncs.de account ?
[20:42] <tgBot> <neothethird> @wilder_Hund, i think it should work
[20:45] <tgBot> <wilder_Hund> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/8NpNH4XM/file_2772.jpg
[20:46] <tgBot> <wilder_Hund> Here we stay for 5minutes
[20:58] <tgBot> <wilder_Hund> Okay, its working now. 😅
[21:59] <tgBot> <padraic7a> @dohbee, I tried this again just now. I must have mistyped earlier because now Iget a different response.
[21:59] <tgBot> <padraic7a> "ablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ ubuntu-app-launch 4firefox_firefox_0_0 … (process:18030): WARNING: Unable to start app '4firefox_firefox_0_0': AppID is empty         "
[22:00] <tgBot> <dohbee> weird
[22:01] <tgBot> <dohbee> oh
[22:01] <tgBot> <dohbee> you mistyped
[22:01] <tgBot> <dohbee> it is `0.0` not `0_0` there
[22:01] <tgBot> <dohbee> @padraic7a `ubuntu-app-launch 4firefox_firefox_0.0` that is
[22:02] <tgBot> <dohbee> there can only be two underscores in an AppID
[22:25] <tgBot> <onajjar> Hey again , I’ve tried so many times to have Ubuntu Touch on my Nextbit Robin , but with no luck at all , I’ve got my self a new Oneplus One , and now I’ll flash the 16.04 on it , but I’ve got 2 questions please , what is the difference between 16.04 devel and 15.04 stable ? And can I have the WhatsApp on it ?
[22:25] <tgBot> <Lyokanthrope> 16.04 isn't really usable yet
[22:26] <tgBot> <onajjar> @Lyokanthrope, Why is that ? And why it’s on the ubports options
[22:45] <tgBot> <ebetonro> @onajjar, for testing purposes
[22:47] <tgBot> <ebetonro> 16.04 is not usabel because of the multiple changes that will ocur like the qt version is not compatible with most of the apps causing them to crash
[22:47] <tgBot> <ebetonro> whatsapp is almot working using LoquilM at least mine still works
[22:47] <tgBot> <ebetonro> with some minor bugs
[22:48] <tgBot> <ebetonro> but I can leave with them
[23:23] <tgBot> <Flohack> @onajjar, Because we are developing it but for daily use plz use old stable
[23:25] <tgBot> <onajjar> @ebetonro, Thanks a lot
[23:25] <tgBot> <onajjar> @Flohack, I’ve returned it to stable Version
[23:25] <tgBot> <onajjar> @Flohack, Thank U