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ducasseg'morning, all03:32
Bashing-omPotent stuff !03:58
lotuspsychjegood morning to all05:52
Bashing-omThe lotus is here .. we are in good hands :)05:54
lotuspsychjeyayy05:56
lotuspsychje!info linux-image-generic xenial05:57
ubot5linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.103.108 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 13 kB05:57
lotuspsychje70mb security updates05:57
Bashing-ommsg ubottu !info linux-image-generic artful05:57
ducassemorning, lotuspsychje06:00
lotuspsychjehey ducasse good morning :p06:00
ducassei've been here since 4:30 cet :)06:00
ducasseglad to see more familiar virtual faces :)06:01
lotuspsychjehehe06:01
lotuspsychjeload lotuspsychje virtualbox-ose06:01
lotuspsychje....booting lotuspsychje06:02
lotuspsychjeYour favorite Os is now operative06:02
ducassei've been toying with that old imac06:03
lotuspsychjeoh nice ducasse what have it become?06:04
ducasseturning off insane crap like gui sound feedback, 'natural scrolling', etc06:05
ducassenow trying to get it to mount nfs, but the damn thing doesn't want to06:05
lotuspsychjeyour gonna keep macosX?06:05
ducassewell, keep a small partition, just to have access to it. use the rest of the disk for something a bit more sane06:06
lotuspsychjecool06:07
ducassewondering if i'm going to bother stripping the damn thing down to put in an ssd...06:07
ducasseit needs to be taken totally apart for that06:07
lotuspsychjeyeah mac is a pain to unscrew06:09
lotuspsychjeand is that already sata hd inside?06:09
lotuspsychjeor still ide?06:09
ducasseoh god, i hope it's sata - didn't think of that :) got docs, can check later.06:10
lotuspsychjemore ram & linux are your best hopes i think06:11
ducasseit can only take 1gb more06:11
lotuspsychjeoh i sold that macbook myself 200 euro06:11
lotuspsychjeon the flee market06:12
lotuspsychje1gb more is nice no?06:13
ducasse1gb more would make it a total of 3, which is enough for my needs06:13
ducassethis machine is sort of perfect because of the 20" screen, just the right size for displaying monitoring stuff in a corner06:14
lotuspsychjeis that colored cube imac?06:15
ducasseno, white. just a screen on a stand.06:16
lotuspsychjeah yeah06:17
lotuspsychjemight be lucky with sata afterall then06:17
lotuspsychjedoublecheck that :p06:17
ducassehttps://photos.app.goo.gl/63ZB4xwMjAgCMeMw206:18
lotuspsychjeneat06:19
lotuspsychjecheck sys specs app ducasse it might say wich hd06:19
lotuspsychjenormally its got all info there, like mac version and hardware06:20
ducassei know, i just haven't been interested enough yet :)06:20
lotuspsychjelol06:21
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lotuspsychjesold one of those with a thin red line in screen for 100 euro once06:25
ducassetoday i'm thinking of trying syncthing, to keep shell config etc the same across all machines06:25
lotuspsychjenice06:26
lotuspsychjeyou have a nas at home ducasse ?06:26
ducasseself-buildt file server, at least06:28
lotuspsychjecool06:29
ducasseeverything is on zfs, important stuff on mirrors, unimportantt stuff on single drives until i can afford mirroring them06:30
alkisgGood morning everyone06:31
lotuspsychjehey alkisg morning mate :p06:31
lotuspsychjeducasse: what kind of stuff are you mirroring?06:32
ducassehi alkisg - wb :)06:32
alkisgHmm, kernel update, will need to reboot today :P06:32
lotuspsychjeyeah 70mb security updates06:32
lotuspsychjeprob that nex xenial stack06:32
lotuspsychjenew06:32
ducasselotuspsychje: just personal files, stuff i've built up over the years etc. lots of weirdness there :)06:32
lotuspsychjelol06:33
lotuspsychjeftp/allsorts i love those hehe06:33
ducassei'm a packrat, i keep everything i might need at some point06:34
lotuspsychjesame here06:35
lotuspsychjealot of usefull tools on hd06:35
ducassegot a ton of rescue disk images, os images for nextstep/openstep, solaris etc - as if i'm ever going to need them, but i don't have the heart to throw them away :)06:46
lotuspsychje:p06:46
lotuspsychjeducasse: the IT mans dream, mirrors full of toolz06:53
lotuspsychjeyou got public stuff somewhere, or just local?06:54
lotuspsychjeim real nosy lol06:54
ducassei've got a vps that i'm setting up a web server on, maybe with some guides i've written etc, but it's closed to the public yet :)06:56
ducassestill not sure what's useful enough to put there06:57
lotuspsychjekk06:58
ducasselotuspsychje: i've got stuff like old firmware images for hardware that's no longer available, but they might be useful to some. been thinking of requesting permission to make them available, for free of course07:05
lotuspsychjeyeah07:05
ducasseguides on how i set up my yubikey for things like login+sudo auth, as well as gpg and ssh keys. also a guide on setting up a tpm and using it as a hardware rng source - little things like that07:07
ducassemight help someone,i guess?07:08
lotuspsychjeif they find it online, sure07:09
ducassethat is of course the problem, but at least if someone asks me i can just give them an url :)07:13
ducassefinding things is a nightmare when you don't know how/where to look07:14
lotuspsychjeindeed07:15
lotuspsychjebreakfast bbl08:04
ducasseeat well, lotuspsychje08:10
ducasseheading out, bbl09:52
BluesKajHowdy folks11:35
immuhowdy11:37
BluesKajhi immu11:39
immuwhats up11:40
BluesKajmorning coffee here11:42
immuhad afternoon lunch11:57
immufeeling sleepy :)11:57
immuhow is ducasse12:04
ducassehi guys, just back13:18
ducasseBluesKaj: the audio cards you asked about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creamware_(software_company)#Products13:19
ducassethey made some fantastic quality stuff, but it was expensive13:20
BluesKajHi ducasse well, quality parts cost \13:25
ducasseyep. i bought one of their dsp cards and some of their software modules that ran on them - cool as <expletive deleted>13:27
BluesKajducasse, how's things?13:28
EriC^^hey ducasse13:28
ducassehi EriC^^13:31
EriC^^how are you doing?13:31
ducasseBluesKaj: pretty good, can't complain :)13:31
BluesKajducasse, glad to hear that :-)13:32
BluesKaj reinstalled the m-audio 192 card and am forced to use pulseaudio becuase flash audio on websites needs it , but now my source switching is nicel and simple.13:32
BluesKajcan't wait til HTML5 is totally adopted and can rid myself of pulse13:34
ducasseBluesKaj: got through to a good doctor who actually read my journal, and he couldn't understand why the others had refused me pain meds13:34
BluesKajyeah, like my wife who suffered from migraines for yrs due to underactive thyroid, useless doctor who didn't keep up to date on old and known developments in migraine causes and treatment. A new Doctot diagnosed her problem immediately on her first visit and no more migraines after that.13:39
ducasseshe must be grateful; my mother suffers migraines, and they can be pretty horrible things13:41
BluesKajsure are13:41
ducassei've just killed off flash here. might miss some content, but most likely nothing i can't make do without13:42
BluesKajdid you purge it?13:42
ducassemost likely, my apt config automatically purges everything when it's removed13:45
immuhi EriC^^ hi ducasse13:48
immuducasse, are sound cards still a thing13:48
ducasseimmu: of course, especially for pro audio13:48
ducasse(which is what we're talking about)13:49
immudo they work on linux and are USB based13:49
ducassedepends. some do, some don't, and some are and others are pci13:51
BluesKajpcis are the preferred due to driver availability for starters13:53
immuokie13:54
immuthe only soundcard i heard from was creative's sound blaster13:55
daftykinsthey're pretty old school now :)13:55
BluesKajmost consumer sound cards have linux drivers available nowadays13:58
ducassedaftykins: and not really anything i would want to be known to have bought13:58
immucool i can run linux commands in Windows powershell14:07
immui have heard less about creative based sound cards ? ????14:16
ducasse'creative labs'14:20
ducassethey were really the first ones to make sound cards for pc's, maybe except roland midi stuff14:21
immuyeah14:23
immui don't see any systems like displaying sound powered by Sblive14:23
immufor a long long time14:25
daftykinsnah everything comes with onboard now14:43
ducasseplus, they reached the point where there weren't much more you could do with sound cards that gamers care about14:45
daftykinsMOAR RGB!14:48
ducasse...and moar channels! 360.1 audio!14:54
daftykinsoh they've already moved onto three places for Dolby Atmos :) my receiver recommends 5.1.2 minimum, but you can do 7.2.214:59
immuwhats a 7.2.215:01
immuhttp://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/future-3d-graphics,2560-2.html15:01
ducassedaftykins: i never cared about that stuff. i spent a fortune on a good _stereo_ system, and only bought something halfway-insanely priced for the home cinema setup :)15:05
daftykinsD:15:06
daftykinsimmu: 7 surround speakers, 2 subwoofers and two 'height' for 3D audio15:06
immuoooooooo15:06
immuu have such a setup daftykins15:06
daftykinsno15:07
daftykinsstill 5.1 here15:07
immuKlipsch ProMedia is recomended15:09
jink0.0 here15:14
jinkWell, 0.1 really, but the sub isn't connected.15:15
ducassemy desktop has a pair of crap speakers, but they're only for playing background music while doing something else. there are also speakers in at least two of my screens, those might be better - never tested.15:29
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ducasseBluesKaj: can i ask what kind of audio software you run on linux?15:41
BluesKajducasse, for music , just plain ol' vlc15:43
daftykinso0 surely that lacks any library function15:44
BluesKajI use the music library in dolphin , I hate playlists etc , they always muck up, I keep it simple15:45
daftykinsoh so that's not a library so much as just file browsing15:47
EriC^^evening all15:47
daftykins\o15:47
daftykinsback in a bit, off to the shops, dafty's new 4K toys need new HDMI cables, ugh15:47
ducassefor playing music i used vlc, then smplayer for a long time, then i discovered mpd+ncmpcpp (or gmpc if i need/want a gui client). not going back15:48
ducassedaftykins: have fun! buy some nice gear :)15:48
BluesKaj4k wow, must be nice, my sat provider wants an arm and a leg for 4k service , and there aren't very many sources.15:51
ducassewith my eyesight it would be pointless to spend money on...15:59
kkremitzkirhythmbox clients plus minidlna server work pretty nicely for me16:00
ducassei've heard good things about rhythmbox, but not tried it myself. my amp can actually play from a dlna source, but i ran into problems with high-bitrate flac tracks...16:06
BluesKajI convert flac to wav files., fewer processr stages16:24
BluesKajand avoid mp3 as much as possible16:26
kkremitzkiBluesKaj: why do you avoid mp3?16:56
nicomachuskkremitzki: probably because it's lossy17:27
nicomachusducasse: ncmpcpp can't be beat17:27
nicomachushttps://i.imgur.com/aGGoP4M.png17:29
ducassenicomachus: yep, it's excellent. been playing with cmus for local playback, but really want ncmpcpp everywhere17:35
nicomachusI tried configuring it to use mopidy server instead of mpd, so that I could import spotify/soundcloud/youtube tracks, but it just did not work.17:36
nicomachusI was able to set up my HTPC at home as an audio device though, so I can use ncmpcpp on my laptop to play tracks on my HTPC which outputs to my home stereo.17:37
BluesKajkkremitzki, lossy compressed audio isn't my thing, I"m a bit of an audiophile18:23
nicomachusBluesKaj stores .wav files only18:51
nicomachus:D18:52
pauljwHi everyone20:12
Bashing-omNap time - back soonest .21:01

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