| jbicha | ricotz: I don't have gtk2 installed here any more :) | 21:22 |
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| ricotz | jbicha, doesn't seem to be a real system to do some work ;P | 21:53 |
| jbicha | what do you use gtk2 for? | 21:54 |
| ricotz | gparted, filezilla, gimp, hexchat, inkscape, ... still quite a list | 21:57 |
| jbicha | ok, the browsers were the only thing I needed gtk2 for in 2017 | 21:58 |
| jbicha | ricotz: do you use thunderbird? | 22:00 |
| ricotz | yes | 22:00 |
| jbicha | what do you think about us finding someone to upload 58 to bionic? | 22:01 |
| ricotz | huh, no way | 22:01 |
| ricotz | why? | 22:01 |
| jbicha | well I want to make sure we get gtk2 off the default install before 18.04's release | 22:02 |
| jbicha | Firefox 59 gets released around mid-March, not sure how closely Thunderbird will follow | 22:02 |
| ricotz | I would object pushing mozilla betas to the archive | 22:03 |
| ricotz | firefox is precisely scheduled though, but thunderbird is not at all | 22:03 |
| jbicha | which version of Thunderbird are you using now? | 22:04 |
| ricotz | 57.0 beta 2 | 22:05 |
| ricotz | I haven't got around fixing 58 yet | 22:05 |
| jbicha | ok, maybe I'll ask again when FF58 gets into bionic later in January, when Thunderbird will probably be the only thing keeping gtk2 in | 22:06 |
| ricotz | anything before thunderbird 59 won't happen | 22:06 |
| ricotz | stable releases of thunderbird are 52.x | 22:07 |
| jbicha | I guess I'm sort of more asking about a thunderbird 59 beta since it's hard to tell when they will drop the beta flag | 22:07 |
| ricotz | https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar | 22:08 |
| jbicha | theoretically, it would be nice to give it more testing before we release it to everyone | 22:08 |
| ricotz | usually a week before the release there will be first buildX tags | 22:09 |
| jbicha | ok, TB 52 was April 4, about a month late | 22:10 |
| ricotz | first beta tags for the next series are in the same week of the release | 22:10 |
| ricotz | but as said thunderbird is not so precisely scheduled as firefox | 22:11 |
| jbicha | the other issue is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule | 22:11 |
| jbicha | but I guess Thunderbird has a standing freeze exception anyway, right? | 22:11 |
| ricotz | I would say so | 22:12 |
| ricotz | so I would assume the first thunderbird beta in early February | 22:12 |
| ricotz | better plan with actual final releases here | 22:13 |
| jbicha | I would be happy if we could get TB59 in and gtk2 out by Bionic Final Beta (Apr 5) | 22:13 |
| jbicha | based on last year, TB may not have a final 59.0 build by then | 22:14 |
| ricotz | so maybe for 18.04.1 then | 22:14 |
| jbicha | (gtk2 will still be on the iso's anyway because of input methods, same with qt5) | 22:15 |
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