[00:56] <swift110_> hwy LL
[00:56] <swift110_> hey all
[00:57] <swift110_> how do I get wobbly windows to work?
[00:57] <nemo> swift110_: turn on compiz I guess
[00:58] <swift110_> did that
[00:58] <nemo> aaaand enable the compiz extension?
[00:59] <swift110_> did that
[01:00] <swift110_> i have the compizconfig settings manager
[01:01] <nemo> do other compiz effects work?
[01:01] <swift110_> snapping works
[01:01] <nemo> well. that works without compiz
[01:02] <swift110_> compiz is set in mate tweak
[01:03] <nemo> $ ps auwxf | grep -E "[m]arco|[c]ompiz"
[01:03] <nemo> nemo     25950  0.6  0.1 562664 29512 ?        Sl   19:59   0:01 marco --replace
[01:04] <nemo> you should see compiz, not marco if it actually is running
[01:04] <swift110_> put this in the terminal
[01:04] <nemo> I don't use it 'cause compositing is kinda of a waste of my poor gfx card
[01:04] <nemo> sure
[01:04] <mate|87468> I switched the top what I call the applications panel to the bottom. Is there anyway to do away with what I call the Welcome Panel on top by transferring everything on it to the bottom Application panel?
[01:04] <nemo> sure you can put whatever you want on any panel
[01:05] <nemo> my preferred is thinnest possible panel on top, with single icon application menu in corner, and an autohide panel on the left for my most common apps
[01:05] <mate|87468> cool.
[01:05] <swift110_> it says compiz is set
[01:06] <swift110_> this works fine on my 11 year old x60 but for some reason this t420 is having issues
[01:06] <nemo> and ofc all the usual things. network monitor, notification, window list on top
[01:06] <nemo> ok
[01:06]  * nemo sighs and turns on compiz in his
[01:07] <nemo> annoying to do 'cause it messes up all my windows
[01:07] <nemo> The program 'ccsm' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[01:07] <nemo> sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[01:07] <nemo> hm. didn't have it installed yet
[01:07] <nemo> installing
[01:08] <nemo> I don't use compiz since the only plugin I really loved, the one for arbitrary shaders, is gone now ☹
[01:08] <nemo> "Plugin Snapping Windows provides feature edgeresistance which is also provided by Wobbly Windows"  says ccsm
[01:08] <nemo> and prompts to disable
[01:08] <nemo> fine
[01:08] <nemo> snapping windows now disabled aaaand
[01:08] <swift110_> i have that package you just installed already
[01:09] <nemo> windows are all wobbly
[01:09] <nemo> so. yeh. all I did was ① mate-tweak compiz ② ccsm ③ click on wobbly windows and click ok on prompt to disable snapping
[01:10] <swift110_> I got it now
[01:10] <swift110_> I had to disable snapping apparently
[01:10] <swift110_> thanks
[01:12] <nemo> ccsm should have prompted you
[01:12] <nemo> as it did for me
[01:35] <mate|64309> What do you call the applications things you are currently using as they are shown on a panel - both minimizing and maximizing them. For example, Firefox. I feel ridiculous.
[02:08] <mate|43019> I need some help. How do I add inclusive minimize, maximize, and close buttons show up on a ubuntu mate panel? Or where could I find instructions on the Internet?
[02:13] <Astro7467> @mate|43019 ; you mean buttons on the panel like on the windows & similiar to how web browser have a close button on the tabs? If so, not sure I have ever seen it done
[02:14] <Astro7467> Those options are available thru right clicking the button
[02:15] <Astro7467> I think you can also assign mouse (and/or mouse + special key) short cuts to those - if not already assigned
[02:44] <mate|43019> Hey Astro, please go to this Webpage and you will see where it says on the bottom panel: Welcome Ubuntu Mate, System Monitor, etc. Go to: https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/ubuntu-mate-15-10-is-out-including-raspberry-pi-2/2477
[02:45] <mate|43019> This is what I am talking about, maybe tabs.
[02:46] <Nathan> the panel at the bottom?
[02:46] <mate|43019> yes
[02:46] <Astro7467> OK - you have lost the panel is it?
[02:47] <Astro7467> if so go to control centre - MATE Tweak, and click on Interface
[02:47] <mate|43019> oh
[02:47] <Astro7467> change the panels (1st drop down on top)
[02:48] <Astro7467> can change back to current setting after - this will reset the panels to original
[02:51] <mate|43019> What is Mate Tweak under?
[02:52] <Astro7467> Control Centre - Look & Feel
[02:52] <Astro7467> if you have search /advanced menu you can also just type weak for a shortcut
[02:54] <Astro7467> ^ ... type 'tweak' for ...
[02:55] <Nathan> https://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-mate-customization/
[02:59] <mate|43019> I am wondering if I have the latest version of Ubuntu Mate? How can I tell?
[03:00] <Nathan> system / details
[03:08] <Nathan> how did you go mate?
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[15:26] <snchz> hello everybody
[15:29] <snchz> just trying out ubuntu-mate
[17:00] <husnain> hi
[17:00] <husnain> ciao
[17:01] <husnain> salve??
[20:53] <alkisg> flexiondotorg: trying mate-daily, I got: "Ooops welcome encountered an internal error.... script error .... line 0"
[21:15] <basilarchia> has anyone tried to build a newer kernel to fix sound out on ATI video cards over HDMI?
[21:16] <basilarchia> sound out doesn't work on any of the machines I've tried that have ATI video cards. It looks like it needs a 4.15 kernel (git://people.freedesktop.org/~agd5f/linux)
[21:17] <basilarchia> I can't seem to build a working initrd yet.
[21:18] <basilarchia> also, the way 'quiet' and 'spash' are appended to the grub.conf is obnoxious IMHO. Does anyone know if that is ubuntu specific or are the /etc/grub/ bash scripts from upstream.
[21:18] <basilarchia> OK, that question is me being lazy and I should find upstream. Maybe someone knows off the top of their head
[21:22] <rock64> yone know whether its possible to dual boot o9n the rock64.
[21:27] <alkisg> basilarchia: there's an ubuntu mainline ppa
[21:27] <alkisg> It has newer kernels which you can try without compiling
[21:28] <alkisg> Google for ubuntu mainline ppa, it has instructions
[21:28] <sixwheeledbeast> I seems to have no issues with my video card. I had a bug where the binaries where not installed on upgrade to 17.10 but that's about it.
[21:29] <rock64> info on rock64 dual boot?