[00:18] <Hych> There are two similar directories, one existing on my computer and one on my USB. They have nearly the same content, but the one on the USB hasn't been updated since a long time. The directory on my computer, let's call it X, has some additions of new files and some of the already-present files were modified. How can I transfer all of these new changes to the USB?
[00:18] <Hych> I don't want to just copy the entire directory to the USB all over again.
[00:20] <adrian_1908> Hych: rsync is an option. e.g. `rsync -av /path/on/your/computer /path/on/your/usbstick/`
[00:21] <Hych> adrian_1908: i have a feeling that they'll instead copy simply the new files over, forgetting about the files which have the same names but were modified and are of a different size
[00:21] <Hych> about rsync -av
[00:21] <Hych> isn't some other parameter required for this whole thing
[00:21] <adrian_1908> Hych: no, it compares timestamps.
[00:27] <adrian_1908> btw, don't use a trailing slash like I wrote, just end with the directory name.
[00:29] <adrian_1908> Hych: Pass `--dry-run` if you're not sure, that'll show you what rsync would do.
[00:30] <adrian_1908> I tripped on rsync multiple time. I think source dir needs trailing slash, destination needs no slash. Then it's a 1:1 copy from one dir to another.
[00:34] <leftyfb> that's not going to work if it's a FAT32 usb drive. You'll want rsync -rlhtzv
[00:40] <EraserPencil> Are there server or ubuntu core images in the "lxc image list"?
[00:41] <leftyfb> EraserPencil: lxc uses cloud images
[00:41] <leftyfb> EraserPencil: https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/
[00:42] <EraserPencil> so its all server images
[00:43] <leftyfb> EraserPencil: you won't be running a desktop OS in a container
[00:48] <EraserPencil> is there an ubuntu core version? https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/02/27/ubuntu-core-in-lxd-containers/
[00:49] <tubal> Hello. On the cusp of doing the 17.04 -> 17.10 upgrade. Wondering if it's all smoothness? Particularly the Unity-to-Gnome/GDM transition.
[00:51] <bazhang> tubal, it's fine, 17.10 has a nine month support cycle
[00:51] <bazhang> tubal, and 18.04 is the LTS five year
[00:54] <blueingress> bazhang, when will 18.04 be available?
[00:54] <bazhang> blueingress, 4/18
[00:54] <bazhang> month april, year 2018
[00:55] <blueingress> bazhang, can't wait that long :-)
[00:55] <tubal> bazhang: Yeah, I think I'll jump anyway.
[00:56] <leftyfb> EraserPencil: why would you ask a question and immediately link to the answer on the same line?
[01:00] <EraserPencil> Oh! I ran "lxc image list ubuntu:" and couldnt find the core version he used. I tried "lxc image list ubuntu-core:" and couldnt find it either.
[01:02] <EraserPencil> I'm confused and that's why I'm asking if there is a core version. or is there a better way to find images
[01:07] <leftyfb> EraserPencil: install lxd from proposed
[01:08] <leftyfb> EraserPencil: remove lxc first
[02:19] <tubal> From what i'm reading, it looks like Gnome doesn't do titlebar menus. Is that correct?
[02:32] <econdudeawesome> Howdy #ubuntu! Long time. Looking for people's preferences. I'm currently running Ubuntu through Windows 10 Linux Subsystem. I'm curious as to people's opinions on a solid database to run through the subsystem. MySQL? PostGres? SQLite? Not looking for massive storage, but stability and ease of configuration to play nice with Windows (if needs be) would be awesome
[02:38] <k_sze> I just installed the proprietary NVIDIA driver from the PPA and I got a warning like this: cryptsetup: WARNING: target cryptswap1 has a random key, skipped
[02:38] <k_sze> Should I be concerned?
[02:38] <tomreyn> !wsl | econdudeawesome
[02:38] <k_sze> That's at the very end, after update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.13.0-19-generic
[02:40] <econdudeawesome> tomreyn: Much obliged
[02:40] <tomreyn> k_sze: this message is about an encrypted swap partition
[02:40] <tomreyn> so unrelated to nvidia drivers.
[02:41] <tomreyn> i suspect the source of this warning is os-prober, invoked automatically during update-initramfs
[02:42] <tomreyn> unless you have other operating systems installed and want to be able to have them selectable from the grub installation you use to boot into this ubuntu installation, you can just uninstall os-prober
[02:44] <EraserPencil> Am I getting the concept of lxd right?
[02:44] <EraserPencil> If I need to deploy 10 raspberry Pi to outfield as sensor boxes, I can create one container using lxd on my desktop and clone it to 10 different SD cards. That is opposed to installing and configuring the packages to 10 different SD cards
[02:51] <adrian_1908> EraserPencil: Different architecture, no?
[02:52] <tomreyn> EraserPencil: the processes you're looking for is called OS deployment, software deployment. you could also work with a golden image and clone it, but that's not what you use lxd for, after all those are different archiotectures.
[02:52] <tomreyn> also configuration deployment
[02:53] <EraserPencil> thought if i got the arm version, it would be fine
[02:53] <EraserPencil> arm version of the image
[02:53] <tomreyn> lxd is containers, not virtualization
[02:55] <EraserPencil> ahh okay. I'd get the kernel stuff of my laptop hard ware.
[02:55] <EraserPencil> So what I want is to configure one raspberry pi with lxd then clone it?
[02:57] <tomreyn> EraserPencil: why lxd?
[02:58] <EraserPencil> dosent have to be, I'm not sure what I'm looking for. I was reading up and thought LXD would be it
[02:58] <EraserPencil> lxd*
[02:59] <tomreyn> be what? what are you trying to achieve?
[02:59] <EraserPencil> have 10 identical OS
[03:01] <EraserPencil> for swarm robotics application
[03:01] <EraserPencil> I could do it the old school way by doing everything manually, but I was wondering if there was a quicker way.
[03:02] <tomreyn> okay, so either create a golden image by installing on one of them, then taking that image, then clone it and after cloning it modify central system settings like hostname etc. or use some form of OS, software and configuration deplyoment. the latter scales, the former not really. the latter allows you to deploy changes easily later on, the former not really.
[03:06] <EraserPencil> whats the keyword I'd be googling for if I wanna use the latter
[03:07] <tomreyn> "OS, software and configuration deplyoment"
[03:07] <tomreyn> "OS, software and configuration deployment"
[03:08] <EraserPencil> tomreyn: thx
[03:09] <EraserPencil> Oh, for completion sake, is docker a route I should consider?
[03:13] <tomreyn> EraserPencil: docker is a container management solution which (at leats on ubuntu) depends on lxd, i think. so, containment, not virtualization. if you are trying to create the golden image on a system which is a different hardware architecture than arm, you'll need to do so in virtualization (such as qemu), not (just) containment.
[03:14] <tomreyn> if you're thinking about running lxd and docker on those pi's (i.e. if it will be inside the golden image), then it's a different matter, you can do that.
[03:14] <tomreyn> (but it only makes sense if you're planning on using containers there)
[03:18] <Noldorin> Where is the help for `apt depends` and `apt rdepends`?
[03:19] <tomreyn> SEE ALSO
[03:19] <tomreyn>        apt-get(8)
[03:21] <tomreyn> actualyl that's in apt-cache(8)
[03:30] <EraserPencil> think i'll do just that, im more keen to learn lxd and docker than ansible or puppet
[03:31] <EraserPencil> dosent matter if its containered or not. I think
[04:01] <texla> I want to upgrade from 14.0.4 to 16.0.4 which command should i use
[04:08] <Bashing-om> texla: 14,04 fully upgraded and proprietary drivers reverted; then : ' sudo do-release-upgrade ' .
[04:11] <realies> a process has hung, how to kill
[04:11] <realies> kill doesn't work
[04:11] <realies> if i restart it starts stopping everythin except that process and i have to physically restart it
[04:12] <texla> Bashing-om, thanks why is it no longer in updates
[04:15] <Bashing-om> texla: ?? Sorry I do not follow " no longer in updates" . details please .
[04:18] <texla> When yuo open updatte it has a catagory for new releases or long term YOUNhad the option of updating 15.05 or 16.04 that option is no longer available
[04:23] <Bashing-om> texla:  A thought : /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades . prompt= is set to what ?
[04:26] <texla> Bashing-om,  /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades: command not found
[04:27] <Bashing-om> texla: Ya want to read that file " cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ' .
[04:29] <texla> Bashing-om, Prompt=lts
[04:34] <Bashing-om> texla: That is correct, I do not know what is wrong in the GUI . Not a GUI person .
[04:35] <texla> Bashing-om, Thanks for the info I will use your given command
[05:31] <Spiegel1> hello
[05:32] <ducasse> \o
[05:35] <virmaha_> Hello.I've a serious issue. I was running ubuntu 16.04 in a VM and suddenly, I get a message 'targeted filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init'. No init found. Try passing init=bootarg.
[05:36] <virmaha_> I've lot of important files. How do I recover them? I just end up with a text console :S
[05:42] <ducasse> virmaha_: what does 'ls -l /sbin/init' say?
[05:43] <virmaha_> ducasse: no such file or directory
[05:44] <ducasse> what kind of vm is this? what is the hypervisor?
[05:44] <virmaha_> ducasse: I am using vmware workstation
[05:46] <ducasse> i know nothing about vmware, sorry. what i would do is use an external tool to mount the vm disk image, and look at it that way. if necessary and possible, backup your stuff and set up a new vm.
[05:47] <virmaha_> but how do I get the files I already had? I've taken snapshots but I want to try getting my vm up and running without snapshot if possible
[05:47] <virmaha_> do you think it's a good idea to create bootable usb, login from that and fsck /dev/sda1?
[05:47] <virmaha_> https://askubuntu.com/questions/17647/target-filesystem-doesnt-have-requested-sbin-init
[05:50] <ducasse> worth a try
[05:50] <ducasse> it's just another approach to what i suggested
[05:51] <TsakNorris> i have still this - https://askubuntu.com/questions/983099/ubuntu-17-10-public-hotspot-problem
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> TsakNorris: to get your issue solved, repeat here once in a while with all details in one line please
[06:31] <alkisg> Good morning everyone
[06:49] <virmaha_> ducasse: i just reverted to previous snapshot
[07:18] <jk^> hi all
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> jk^: welcome, how can we help you?
[07:19] <jk^> which antivirus do u suggest to install on ubuntu?
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> !antivirus | jk^
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> jk^: if you do want to experiment, try clamav, rkhunter,snort,..
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> jk^: are you running specific services, or just ubuntu desktop?
[07:21] <jk^> maybe xubuntu
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> jk^: ok, just keep your system up to date at all times for security issues
[07:21] <jk^> i just want to say if after installation of operating system i need to install even an antivirus suite
[07:22] <jk^> [07:22] <lotuspsychje> jk^: that depends on your needs really, ubuntu is built with safety in mind by default
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> jk^: but that doesnt mean you cant get compromized
[07:23] <jk^> i need antivirus if files will pass from ubuntu to windows?
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> jk^: for windows security, we cant help here
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> jk^: lets say you download a harmfull exe with ubuntu, and transfer it to windows and run it.. its a security risk yes
[07:24] <jk^> I just said that because i read: "Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux, except where files are then passed to Windows computers (perhaps using Samba)."
[07:25] <jk^> yes, maybe i'll need to open file .exe in wine or similar emulators
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> jk^: we dont offer security support for windows, i hope you understand
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> jk^: common sense is also important here, try not to run harmful programs you dont know?
[07:26] <jk^> ok could ubuntu get security's problems by a program opened in wine?
[07:26] <jk^> a program .exe
[07:26] <jk^> opened in wine?
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> jk^: depending on the program you choose yourself, yes a rootkit can enter your system
[07:27] <jk^> ok
[07:27] <jk^> thnaks
[07:27] <jk^> thanks
[07:27] <jk^> !livedvd
[07:28] <jk^> !burningdvd
[07:28] <jk^> !iso
[07:28] <jk^> !burning
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> !msgthebot > jk^
[07:35] <ducasse> jk^: if you want to know what kind of harm a windows virus can do if executed through wine, i suggest you ask in #winehq - they are the experts on that
[07:35] <jk^> ok
[07:35] <jk^> my doubt is only if after installing ubuntu i have to install even an antivirus or not
[07:35] <jk^> :\
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> jk^: that depends what you gonna do
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> jk^: are you going to experiment with random exe's or not?
[07:37] <jk^> no
[07:37] <jk^> usually not
[07:37] <jk^> i download ever by their official site
[07:37] <jk^> [08:19] <lotuspsychje> jk^: if you do want to experiment, try clamav, rkhunter,snort,..
[07:38] <jk^> are these antivirus's names?
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> !info clamav | jk^ yes
[07:38] <jk^> clamav? rkunter, snort?
[07:38] <jk^> i hate command line software :(
[07:38] <jk^> i'm not expert on pc, so i need solutions by gui :|
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> jk^: there are GUI antivirus out there for ubuntu aswell
[07:39] <jk^> [07:39] <jk^> what's samba?
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> !samba | jk^
[07:40] <ducasse> jk^: it's for sharing files and printers over a network
[07:44] <jk^> What does it has to do with antivirus? :\
[07:45] <bazhang> jk^, you dont need one for ubuntu
[07:45] <bazhang> jk^, unless you might be using samba, for example to file share iwth windows
[07:46] <ducasse> jk^: because if you download files for windows from ubuntu and save it over samba, the windows machine that runs it might get infected
[07:50] <ducasse> jk^: but seriously, just protect your windows machines, browse safely, update frequently and don't worry too much about malware on linux
[07:51] <DF3D2> i dont understand why I manually edit /etc/network/interfaces on a 16.04 server install and then do ifdown interface ifup interface why the old IP is still used?
[07:51] <DF3D2> even systemctl restart networking doesnt help only a reboot?
[07:51] <DF3D2> what am I missing ?
[07:55] <alkisg> DF3D2: networking isn't a systemd service afaik, try sudo service networking restart
[07:55] <alkisg> Hmm no both can be used, my bad there
[08:00] <jk^> does avast exist for ubuntu? :|
[08:00] <ducasse> DF3D2: can you pastebin the interfaces file? obscure the address if necessary.
[08:00] <DF3D2> I figured it out my bad
[08:00] <DF3D2> im new to proxmox and I was running ubuntu in a container, I had to change the network settings via proxmox apparently
[08:00] <bazhang> jk^, there's a version for linux and ubuntu , yes
[08:01] <bazhang> jk^, you'd need to hunt that down and maintain yourself
[08:01] <ducasse> jk^: there are commercial scanners, but they're not necessary and designed for enterprise environments. look at clamav for your desktop.
[08:03] <jk^> so poor english, just a moment, i need translator :)
[08:04] <jk^> bazhang, i can't find avast for linux
[08:04] <bazhang> jk^, thats something you need to websearch for, we dont support it
[08:04] <bazhang> jk^, although we have repeatedly said you do NOT need it
[08:06] <Spookan> jk^: Hello. It looks like Avast antivirus only support Windows/MacOS/Android.
[08:06] <jk^> yes, but i often pass files from linux to win, so i need antivirus. In the past i always used Avast, it's ever been very good
[08:08] <Spookan> jk^: I did some digging. They have a paid version for Linux.
[08:09] <xcom169> hello all
[08:10] <xcom169> can you help me?
[08:10] <Younder> How can we know that i you don't tell us what you wan't help with?
[08:10] <ducasse> !ask | xcom169
[08:10] <DF3D2> im proud of myself i remembered all the steps by heart to take a blank partition in to mounted disk space
[08:11] <Spookan> jk^: https://www.avast.com/en-us/linux-server-antivirus
[08:11] <xcom169> ubottu: Is it possible ( simply way ) to compile from C / C++ to Windows exe on Ubuntu?
[08:11] <jk^> for servers?
[08:12] <jk^> what version of ubuntu do u suggest for my pc?
[08:12] <DF3D2> well
[08:13] <ducasse> yes, it's an enterprise product. again, you don't need one.
[08:13] <DF3D2> what window manager do you want?
[08:13] <jk^> Which version of ubuntu do u advice/suggest for my pc?
[08:13] <ducasse> jk^: 16.04 desktop version
[08:14] <ducasse> jk^: unless you tell us more about the pc
[08:14] <jk^> Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu-Gnome, Ubuntu Mate, Ubuntu Budgie-Remix, Xubuntu or Lubuntu?
[08:14] <jk^> My pc is 1,4 GHz Celeron M, 2 GB RAM
[08:14] <DF3D2> yikes
[08:15] <ducasse> jk^: then i would probably try xubuntu or lubuntu
[08:16] <jk^> is there no chance for ubuntu or the other flavours?
[08:16] <jk^> for example, kubuntu or ubuntu mate?
[08:16] <Spookan> jk^: If you have alot off windows friends, my tip is to advice them to use a good antivirus and scan your files. As people are saying here, a AV  for Linux Desktop isnt needed.
[08:16] <alkisg> Ubuntu MATE will work, yeah
[08:16] <alkisg> Firefox browsing e.g. youtube will be slow no matter which OS or distro you select
[08:18] <alkisg> jk^: assuming you're talking about this CPU: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+M+360+1.40GHz&id=708
[08:18] <alkisg> ...with only 327 score, you'd better buy something newer with 1000+ score, it costs less than 100€... https://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-c_11262/nt1_windows~10/
[08:18] <jk^> ok Spookan, after the things you said me, i think i won't install any antivirus, maybe, i just use ClamAV possibly with a GUI interface... i think an avast or other one antivirs will just make slower my pc
[08:19] <alkisg> A current i3 has 6000+ score, i.e. 20 times faster than what you have
[08:23] <fub> Hi. How can I specific that my for a specific external monitor always 154 DPI is used?
[08:23] <fub> I know I can set this with xrandr, but to take effect I need to re-login, and then the xrand change is lost
[08:24] <DF3D2> you could add it to ~/.xinitrc
[08:24] <DF3D2> or some such
[08:24] <DF3D2> not sure what the right way to do that anymore is, i havent used linux with a window manager in some time
[08:24] <ducasse> fub: put the xrandrd line in ~/.xsessionrc
[08:24] <DF3D2> ^ yeah that sounds more right than what i said
[08:24] <ducasse> .xinitrc is only for xinit/startx
[08:24] <DF3D2> right
[08:24] <DF3D2> like i said im rusty on the old WM stuff
[08:25] <DF3D2> all linux server for me heh
[08:25] <alkisg> Maybe an alternative would be to put it in xorg.conf for all users, e.g. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xorg#Display_size_and_DPI
[08:25] <fub> ducasse: can this be monitor specific? My use case is: a) only laptop b) only external 4k monitor c) only external FHD monitor
[08:25] <alkisg> That would even work within the display manager
[08:25] <jk^> alkisg, if i can avoid, 100€ in my pockets are good at the moment :|
[08:25] <jk^> [09:17] <alkisg> Firefox browsing e.g. youtube will be slow no matter which OS or distro you select
[08:26] <jk^> i don't understand what do u want to say
[08:26] <DF3D2> your processor is bad
[08:26] <alkisg> jk^: I mean that youtube browsing needs a better CPU than what you have
[08:26] <DF3D2> long story short
[08:27] <fub> alkisg: For xorg.conf it can be tied to a specific monitor, is that right?
[08:27] <alkisg> fub: yes
[08:28] <jk^> so even if i try lubuntu that's so light, i can't use pc for normal uses?
[08:28] <fub> alkisg: so then I have to take each monitor I have, calculate the DisplaySize and add it in the xorg.conf, right?
[08:28] <jk^> usages?
[08:28] <jurgentje> Hi... I just tried installing PulseAudio Equalizer. I get a setting in Shell extensions that asks me if I want to enable system wide PulseAudio-Equalizer. But whatever I choose, I don't see the equalizer. Any experience with this? (supo apt install pulseaudio-equalizer)
[08:28] <alkisg> jk^: you can use ubuntu-mate or lubuntu or windows or whatever for light tasks like solitaire or libreoffice writer, but not for heavy tasks like decoding HQ video. It's not a limitation of the software, but of the hardware.
[08:29] <jurgentje> I'm getting that dialog box when trying to lanuch the equalizer from inside the software center.
[08:29] <Spookan> jk^: What OS do you use now?
[08:29] <alkisg> fub: right, and only for the monitors that autodetection doesn't satisfy you
[08:30] <jk^> ok, but now i'm not talking about decoding HQ video, i'm talking about "normal/basic" usage of the pc such as: web browsing, mail, youtube, chat, music :\
[08:30] <alkisg> jk^: youtube has HQ video
[08:30] <alkisg> web browsing nowadays is the heaviest common task
[08:30] <jk^> ok
[08:30] <jk^> :(
[08:31] <jurgentje> jk^, I think any computer that's less than 5 years old, should be able to do basic stuff like browsing the internet when you use a light distro like mate or lubuntu
[08:31] <alkisg> His isn't less than 5 years old
[08:31] <jurgentje> but I also have a computer with only 1 gig of RAM and a dual core. And that tends to get really slow with lots of javascipt loaded sites
[08:31] <fub> alkisg: the resolution is auto detected and fine, but the DPI is bad and so everything is tiny here on 4k
[08:31] <alkisg> fub: yeah, got it
[08:32] <alkisg> fub: i see a section on how to configure dpi on nvidia, but for others, I only see DisplaySize which indirectly causes DPI calculations
[08:33] <fub> yeah I have an intel card (its an thinkpad x1 carbon)
[08:34] <fub> so I will look for the dimensions of my external monitor now
[08:40] <fub> alkisg: so how do I get an unique identifier for my monitor?
[08:45] <Thyriaen> I installed Ubuntu on my X1 Carbon and everything works as it should ( WiFi, function keys, sleep, shutdown ) - if I choose the minimal install and reinstall Ubuntu with that - will those things work out of the box aswell ?
[08:46] <peet1> try it and tell me
[08:58] <mentalita> hi
[08:58] <mentalita> can I make my custom action appear under Create New Document/
[08:59] <mentalita> xubuntu thunar
[09:03] <alkisg> mentalita:  grep TEMPLATES ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[09:04] <alkisg> This will probably show that your TEMPLATES folder is ~/Templates, which is a folder that you can create and put documents inside it
[09:04] <alkisg> Those then appear in New> actions of file managers
[09:04] <mentalita> alkisg: not sure what should I replace with what?
[09:04] <alkisg> Just run the command and paste the result here
[09:04] <mentalita> XDG_TEMPLATES_DIR="$HOME/Templates"
[09:04] <mentalita> ok I see them
[09:04] <alkisg> Right. So create /home/mentalita/Templates and put your templates there
[09:04] <mentalita> ok
[09:04] <mentalita> cheers man
[09:04] <alkisg> np
[09:04] <mentalita> here's a joint
[09:07] <mentalita> alkisg: I can't change the icon tho :(
[09:08] <alkisg> mentalita: icon on what, the file type in general or the menu in thunar?
[09:09] <mentalita> alkisg: like when you right click somewhere in a folder, create new > python script. it's some generic icon...in a folder is different, like python's icon (it's still ugly but at least it's python's)
[09:09] <mentalita> it's different in a folder8
[09:11] <alkisg> Paste a screenshot, but that sounds thunar-specific, and I'm not using thunar...
[09:11] <fub> alkisg: so in xorg.conf I cant set settings for a specific monitor
[09:11] <fub> just for a specific "port" like DP1-1
[09:11] <fub> I now tried writing a little script and put it in my .xinitrc
[09:12] <fub> but even an echo "foo" > /home/myuser/test.log in the .xinitrc will not write to that log file
[09:12] <mentalita> alkisg: http://i.imgur.com/o6boXHr.png here's in a folder, but it won't let me take a screenshot while the right click pop up menu is open
[09:13] <fub> I have the feeling that gdm skips the xinitrc, because there is also no "exec i3" in there
[09:14] <ducasse> fub: don't use .xinitrc, use .xsessionrc like i said earlier
[09:15] <fub> ok, I will try
[09:15] <hotwater99999> does kern.log and syslog not regenerate if you delete them?
[09:15] <ducasse> fub: unless you actually use xinit/startx, which i doubt since you mention gdm
[09:15] <fub> ducasse: this is the script I will execute from there: http://dpaste.com/1BJP8YQ
[09:16] <fub> it should set the dpi only if I am using the 4k screen
[09:16] <alkisg> fub: sounds strange if displaysize isn't per display :D
[09:17] <fub> alkisg: what do you mean?
[09:17] <hotwater99999> im deleted those files and its been some time and they have not regenerated
[09:18] <ducasse> hotwater99999: try 'touch'ing them
[09:18] <hotwater99999> how you do that?
[09:18] <hotwater99999> ducasse:
[09:19] <ducasse> 'touch /var/log/syslog' (as root)
[09:19] <mentalita> can I change the icon of a template
[09:20] <jk^> so, is clamAV just a scanner :\ not a completely security solution :\
[09:20] <jk^> ?
[09:20] <mentalita> or can I at least group custom actions in a folder
[09:20] <hotwater99999> i think the other one is kern.log right?
[09:20] <hotwater99999> i mean thats the name of one of the files
[09:21] <fub> ducasse: thanks, putting it in xsessionrc executed it. it also executed xrandr --dpi 154 (as I wanted to), but maybe this is already too late in the xsession start so it has no effect? because all things are still tiny (and not the same as if I put the dpi setting in ~/.Xresources)
[09:23] <hotwater99999> ducasse: they appeared but they are blank right now
[09:23] <hotwater99999> i thought files like that would regenerate?
[09:24] <hotwater99999> is this something that might get fixed on a reboot?
[09:25] <alkisg> (11:12:06 πμ) mentalita: alkisg: http://i.imgur.com/o6boXHr.png here's in a folder, but it won't let me take a screenshot while the right click pop up menu is open => to do that you use a program that takes screenshots after 5 seconds (usually included)
[09:26] <alkisg> (11:11:38 πμ) fub: alkisg: so in xorg.conf I cant set settings for a specific monitor => but that's exactly what monitor sections are for, to be able to specify settings per monitor
[09:26] <alkisg> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xorg#Display_size_and_DPI
[09:26] <mentalita> alkisg: I know I had it on mint but it's not here
[09:26] <mentalita> alkisg: can I find out where are templates icon located?
[09:26] <mentalita> or all the icons
[09:27] <alkisg> mentalita: in general, .desktop files specify the icons. But I don't know about thunar, sorry.
[09:27] <alkisg> hotwater99999: you also need to chown the files to syslog:adm
[09:28] <omegaa_pdx> would anyone mind giving me a hand with blockid syntax for fstab ? I have all the information I need to mount my drive but I’m not parsing it correctly for some reason…..
[09:28] <alkisg> omegaa_pdx: ask the more specific question; noone can say "yes I'll help you" before seeing the details..
[09:30] <fub> alkisg: but if you look at the example there, you see the identifier is just "Monitor0"
[09:30] <hotwater99999> alkisg: do you know the command for that? I didnt realize that this would not happen on auto lol
[09:30] <omegaa_pdx> i think i figured it out, thanks anyways….
[09:30] <fub> how should this differentiate between a 4k monitor and a different monitor I have
[09:30] <alkisg> fub: of course not, it can be HDMI-0 etc
[09:30] <alkisg> It's just an example
[09:30] <alkisg> fub: type xrandr and check the output names
[09:31] <fub> alkisg: right, so imagin this: Im at home and plug my 4k in HDMI-0, then Im at work and plug the FHD
[09:31] <fub> both at HDMI-0
[09:31] <fub> then the "Identifier" is the same, but they have different resolutions and dimensions, right?
[09:32] <hotwater99999> anyone know the chown command for system log files?
[09:32] <fub> so the identifier option is not monitor specific, its (connecting) port specific (DP1-1, DP1-2, HDMI-0, HDMI-1, ..)
[09:33] <alkisg> fub: yes if you want to specify a different displaysize on the same output, it's getting more difficult, I'm not sure if a match xorg directive could do that. Alternatively, you could search to apply the xrandr command earlier, at the DM init stage.
[09:33] <fub> hotwater99999: sudo chown user:group file
[09:34] <fub> alkisg: exactly, thats what I am trying right now. I wrote a little script and put it in .xsessionrc, see here: http://dpaste.com/1BJP8YQ
[09:34] <alkisg> I'm not sure that .xsessionrc is early enough
[09:35] <fub> alkisg: yeah, thats what I also think, because the xrandr --dpi command in there has no effect on the UI
[09:35] <fub> so where else can I put this?
[09:35] <alkisg> Which ubuntu version and which display manager and which desktop environment?
[09:35] <hotwater99999> that command did not work
[09:36] <alkisg> hotwater99999: sudo chown syslog:adm /var/log/syslog
[09:38] <alkisg> fub: `xrandr --output VGA-1 --dpi 144` in .xsessionrc works for me in Lubuntu 16.04
[09:40] <hotwater99999> alkisg: the command worked but the files are still empty
[09:40] <alkisg> hotwater99999: now try: logger hi
[09:40] <alkisg> Then check your syslog
[09:41] <hotwater99999> alkisg: they are both still blank
[09:41] <Repentance> If we didn't get an answer on askubuntu, could we try here alternatively? I got a wifi issue ; . ;
[09:41] <alkisg> hotwater99999: service rsyslog status
[09:43] <alkisg> Repentance: yes, you can ask here. You can also mention the link of the question if you want.
[09:43] <Repentance> Thanks
[09:44] <hotwater99999> alkisg: https://zerobin.net/?e1da0cfa6a1d9f01#z2/76ahPn7MFpgxhz2V7YRGI1zR68fXLkeVlrTnX+B0=
[09:45] <alkisg> hotwater99999: ok, try sudo service rsyslog restart; logger hi; tail /var/log/syslog
[09:45] <Repentance> This was my issue: https://askubuntu.com/questions/983103/after-installing-bluetooth-headphones-wifi-drops
[09:47] <hotwater99999> alkisg: thanks they are both back up.. :)
[09:47] <alkisg> np
[09:47] <Repentance> I got on GitHub and went to the firmware driver's author's page where he has submitted his updated drivers for us to use: https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new/issues If you see the Issues page here, there are very similar issues to mine with the rtl8821ae LAN driver.
[09:49] <Repentance> lwfinger actually commented back to my issue but without good advice, as I am clearly noob. But, even the method I followed with on askubuntu doesn't work because for some reason, I'm getting a reply back that the .conf config file with the parameters I've entered as suggested on the Ubuntu page I've linked to, that the parameters are being ignored.
[09:53] <fub> I'm using ubuntu 17.10 with gdm and i3
[09:55] <Repentance> This problem all started when I installed some Bluetooth headphones. So my wifi keeps dropping and the only thing I can think of doing right now is typing into command: sudo modprobe -r rtl8821ae && sudo modprobe rtl8821ae
[09:56] <fub> alkisg: just tested, when I put "xrand --output DP1-1 --dpi 154" in my .xsessionrc, it does not change anything with the look (everything still tiny), but xdpyinfo shows the 154 dpi.
[09:56] <fub> (but this also happens when I started i3 and then type xrandr --dpi. the dpi is changed but it has no effect
[09:56] <alkisg> fub: put `xterm` in that file, and see if xterm starts before the session
[09:58] <fub> alkisg: "exec xterm" or just "xterm" ?
[09:58] <alkisg> Just xterm
[09:58] <alkisg> You're supposed to see an xterm without a window manager etc
[09:59] <alkisg> Then when you exit it, the session will continue normally
[09:59] <alkisg> In xterm, type `ps faux` to see what's running at that point and whatnot
[09:59] <fub> no xterm here
[09:59] <fub> I logged out and logged in again
[09:59] <fub> which xterm "xterm not found"
[09:59] <fub> maybe I need to install this first
[10:00] <fub> ok, next try
[10:01] <fub> alkisg: okay, xterm is started before everything else appears
[10:01] <Repentance> If I'm not replying it's due to the obvious issues.
[10:03] <alkisg> fub: run `ps faux | nc termbin.com 9999` to put a list of processes to pastebin
[10:03] <fub> got it in a text file, will paste, second
[10:03] <alkisg> ...if you only have systemd --user, gdm and xterm there... then it's early enough
[10:04] <fub> Xsession i3 > xterm
[10:05] <fub> alkisg: http://dpaste.com/3XPZ7JR
[10:05] <fub> line 160 is what you are looking for I guess
[10:06] <Repentance> I'm a noob with i3... I'd like to learn how to use it eventually.
[10:06] <alkisg> fub: yes, although it seems like i3 doesn't clean up the sessions properly, you still have processes from the previous logout, check the bottom
[10:07] <alkisg> fub: so, it's early enough, and it's weird if settings are not applied at that point. Try to set dpi manually now before typing exit to continue, does that work?
[10:09] <fub> alkisg: no, does not work. xdpyinfo shows its 154x154, but after exiting the term, its still tiny
[10:09] <Repentance> I wish I could see a print screen of what this setup looks like, sounds cool.
[10:10] <fub> Repentance: its tiny currently, when its normal size I can make a screenshot for you ;)
[10:10] <Repentance> cool !
[10:10] <fub> alkisg: can I leave all this gnome-shell session stuff out? maybe thats the problem?
[10:11] <Repentance> I downloaded someone's advertised color scheme for Vim I saw on his YouTube page link to his GitHub. Sometimes, it doesn't hurt borrowing creativity
[10:13] <alkisg> fub: you're using wayland btw :D
[10:13] <alkisg> fub: so, xorg is kind of "emulated" there... maybe you should be seeking wayland specific instruction instead. Try logging in with the xorg session.
[10:14] <fub> I thought when using i3, it falls back to xorg
[10:14] <fub> how do I switch to an i3 with xorg session
[10:14] <alkisg> I've never used i3, wait for someone else there...
[10:17] <Repentance> fub know of any good intro tutorials for i3?
[10:17] <fub> the i3 page had everything I needed
[10:18] <Repentance> I've had it installed, played with it months ago.
[10:18] <Repentance> OK, cool.
[10:18] <throstur> my 16.04 LTS virtual machines are all segfaulting on `apt update`... fairly new install, any known issues with the distribution?
[10:19] <fub> q
[10:20] <Repentance> Just using tmux for now. Will eventually give it a go again.
[10:20] <alkisg> throstur: no segfaults here
[10:23] <throstur> alkisg: what image did you base off?
[10:23] <alkisg> throstur: I'm talking about desktop ubuntu 16.04.3... mate, lubuntu and unity
[10:23] <fub> alkisg: are you sure I am using the "emulated wayland" ? Because echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE tells me "x11"
[10:24] <alkisg> fub: oh, I saw wayland in your process list, I didn't dive further
[10:24] <alkisg> I haven't used wayland yet a lot, I don't know its quirks
[10:24] <fub> ok
[10:24] <akik> fub: you can check with xrandr. it'll say WAYLAND0
[10:25] <fub> no WAYLAND in there
[10:25] <mosez> is it possible to create 2 independent software raids with mdadm?
[10:25] <throstur> alkisg: okay alkisg
[10:25] <fub> so then we are still left with the question why using xrand --dpi does not work in my xsessionsrc
[10:26] <mosez> background: i've got 2 spinning disk i want to use for the os as raid 1 and i've got 2 ssd i want to use as raid 0 for thing sthat require speed.
[10:29] <alkisg> fub: remind me, are you using 2 monitors simultaneously, or only one at a time?
[10:30] <fub> alkisg: just one
[10:30] <fub> laptop lid is closed
[10:31] <fub> I tried putting the xrand command in /etc/gdm3/PreSession/Default, but then the session will not start (I am thrown back to login screen)
[10:31] <alkisg> fub: and you're using i3 as the window manager, but you're using gnome apps with that, right?
[10:31] <akik> fub: it's xrandr not xrand
[10:32] <throstur> which versions *most closely* resemble 16.04 LTS ?
[10:33] <fub> alkisg: yeah but not a lot of them. just things like the screenshotter etc. for everything else I have other tools
[10:33] <fub> akik: yeah, was a typo
[10:33] <alkisg> fub: I mean, you could use a gsetting instead, e.g. https://askubuntu.com/questions/875832/how-to-set-per-monitor-scaling-on-wayland
[10:34] <alkisg> This changes text size on the fly
[10:35] <alkisg> Something like: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface text-scaling-factor 2
[10:35] <fub> alkisg: no, somehow the gnome settings do not make a difference
[10:35] <fub> also the media keys, touchpad, etc. are not controlled by gnome
[10:35] <akik> fub: gnome has hard coded the dpi to 96. but you were using i3?
[10:36] <fub> it was before when I could use gnome-settings-daemon
[10:36] <alkisg> So that command above does nothing?
[10:37] <fub> akik: when I put the dpi settings in ~/.Xresources, then it works and I have my 154dpi here on i3. No other way works. The problem is that I work with the laptop and sometimes with an 4k screen. Im looking for a solution where I do not have to change the Xresources before each login process.
[10:37] <fub> alkisg: exactly
[10:37] <alkisg> fub: ok, and what do you need to do to actually see your dpi settings applied?
[10:38] <alkisg> Sorry, just read about .xresources
[10:38] <akik> xdpyinfo will show the dpi value
[10:38] <fub> alkisg: Xft.dpi: 154 in ~/.Xresources
[10:38] <alkisg> fub: well then, instead of doing an xrandr command at .xsessionrc, maybe you could recreate .Xresources based on the connected display?
[10:39] <fub> alkisg: this might be an idea
[10:39] <fub> so in the .xsessionrc I echo the correct dpi in this file?
[10:39] <alkisg> Yup
[10:39] <fub> but then we need to hope its not read before xsessionsrc is executed
[10:39] <fub> let me try
[10:39] <alkisg> Right
[10:41] <fub> nope, its too late. dpi still at 96 now
[10:41] <rexwin_> what is purpose of uMap instance in ubuntu machine?
[10:42] <alkisg> fub: try doing it from gdm init dirs then
[10:43] <alkisg> If you don't have permission there, use a symlink instead, ~/.Xresources pointing somewhere where gdm has write permissions
[10:44] <fub> gdm init dirs?
[10:44] <alkisg> It used to support some init-presession.d etc etc dirs, I suppose it still does
[10:44] <fub> like /etc/gdm4/PreSession/Default ?
[10:45] <alkisg> Right
[10:45] <fub> *gdm3
[10:49] <fub> alkisg: a simple echo "Xft.dpi: 154" > /home/foo/.Xresources worked
[10:49] <fub> interestingly xdpyinfo still shows 96
[10:49] <alkisg> Cool
[10:49] <fub> but I can see that its 154
[10:49] <alkisg> Xft.dpi sounds like the font dpi, not the display dpi
[10:50] <fub> alkisg: maybe adjusting with xrandr already worked, but had no effect on the font?
[10:53] <xcom169> why 17.10 is missing from many ppas ?
[11:00] <mentalita> hi
[11:00] <mentalita> hello
[11:00] <mentalita> can i please ask a q
[11:00] <mentalita> i need help
[11:00] <mentalita> hi?
[11:05] <mentalita> how can I make a folder for my custom actions when I right click somewhere in a folder in thunar, I want to have like that thing that expands 'Create New' ?
[11:05] <Neo1> I installed php 5 how to remove all lack?
[11:06] <Neo1> how I can check what apps installed and remove not important?
[11:08] <Ben64> Neo1: 'dpkg -l' will show you what packages you have
[11:10] <Neo1> I did it sudo apt-get remove php7.0 and sudo apt-get remove php7.1 and got it http://prntscr.com/hkqhts
[11:12] <Ben64> Neo1: ok
[11:13] <Neo1> they are not removed?
[11:13] <Neo1> Ben64: here only modules http://prntscr.com/hkqjjz
[11:13] <Ben64> why pictures of text
[11:13] <Ben64> pastebins exist
[11:16] <Neo1> installed php5.6 http://american-chat.ru/info.php
[11:17] <Neo1> not good, but work
[11:17] <Neo1> I have still one VPS there was installed ISPManager and all structure Apache2 changed. Who know where there created virtual hosts?
[11:18] <acresearch> people is there is a way to generate a beep from the terminal? a command that can generate a BEEEEEEP instead of \a that generates the default DUHB???
[11:18] <Ben64> don't run 5.6 on 16.04
[11:18] <Neo1> I have there 3 virtual host and went to folder /etc/apache2/sites-available and there only 000-defaul.php and I have 3 virtual host are made by ISPManager ....
[11:19] <Neo1> Ben64: why? majority wp plugins doesn't work with php7 ???
[11:19] <Ben64> then get better plugins
[11:19] <Neo1> php7 is raw
[11:20] <Neo1> Ben64: yes I will seek better plugin behalf php7...
[11:20] <Neo1> No
[11:20] <Ben64> well since  you're using 3rd party repositories and software, this channel isn't really for you
[11:20] <Neo1> a few years later when it will good made and compatible with old version then I'll use it
[11:21] <Neo1> Ben64: seems php5 presents in default repository
[11:21] <Ben64> it isn't
[11:21] <Neo1> sudo apt-get php5 and all installed
[11:21] <Ben64> from a 3rd party repository
[11:21] <Neo1> really?
[11:21] <Ben64> yep
[11:21] <Neo1> maybe
[11:22] <Ben64> it's kind of scary that you don't know what you're running on your own server
[11:22] <Neo1> Ben64: I bad understand commands, just trying if work all right
[11:22] <Neo1> not try other commands
[11:26] <Neo1> ubuntu early remove php5, should return it back
[11:35] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> BluesKaj
[11:36] <BluesKaj> hey MonkeyDust
[11:43] <acresearch> people is there is a way to generate a beep from the terminal? a command that can generate a BEEEEEEP instead of \a that generates the default DUHB???
[11:47] <geirha> acresearch: beep from the beep package, perhaps
[11:58] <acresearch> geirha: how do i use it? it keeps asking for an audio file
[12:03] <fub> alkisg: I also cant use the /etc/gdm3/PreSession/Default trick :/ Problem is that at this time, I cant get the resolution of the screen, so I dont know if highdpi or not...
[12:03] <fub> I know tried adjusting the /usr/share/xsessions/i3.desktop file. Cloning the file and making an entry for a) i3 b) i3 hidpi, but somehow I cant make an "echo ... > /home/myuser/.Xresources" there
[12:03] <fub> I just get back thrown to the login shell
[12:09] <fub> alkisg: I may have found a way to adjust Xft.dpi "on-the-fly": xrdb -merge <(echo "Xft.dpi: 154")
[12:10] <steenman> how do i run a command everytime my server boots?
[12:11] <Industrial> Hi.
[12:11] <steenman> hi
[12:11] <Industrial> How do I enable Java plugins in Firefox on Ubuntu?
[12:12] <steenman> i dont know sorry
[12:14] <steenman> wheres that ducasse when you need him!
[12:21] <catphish> is there any way to skip creation of a user during the normal server install process?
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Industrial,d they should be enabled bt default, but you can find java  if you type about:config in the FF addresbar then java in the search
[12:22] <mentalita> can I change this 'Create Document' to something else?
[12:22] <mentalita> in Thunar
[12:22] <mentalita> when you right click
[12:22] <mentalita> somewhere in a folder
[12:23] <jurgentje> Hi... I just tried installing PulseAudio Equalizer. I get a setting in Shell extensions that asks me if I want to enable system wide PulseAudio-Equalizer. But whatever I choose, I don't see the equalizer. Any experience with this? (supo apt install pulseaudio-equalizer). I'm getting that dialog box when trying to lanuch the equalizer from inside the software center.
[12:23] <geirha> mentalita: change to what?
[12:24] <mentalita> at least 'Create', or better yet add new child menu like that 'Crate Document'
[12:24] <mentalita> Create*
[12:24] <mentalita> I know I can make custom actions but I'm asking child menus
[12:26] <geirha> other than translating it, I don't think you can alter the menu in any meaningful way ... other than modifying the source code itself of course
[12:29] <TBotNik> All: What is the best tutorial for Apache Aliases?
[12:29] <BluesKaj> jurgentje, you might be better off using the alsa-equalizer, it's global by default
[12:30] <BluesKaj> jurgentje, aka Alsaequal
[12:32] <BluesKaj> jurgentje, my mistake it's libasound2-plugin-equal.
[12:45] <Seveas> !info debhelper trusty
[12:45] <Seveas> !info debhelper xenial
[12:45] <Seveas> !info debhelper zesty
[12:52] <eskatrem> Hello, I did a `sudo apt-get --fix-broken install` that removed me apt and I can reinstall it with dpkg
[12:54] <eskatrem> *and I CANT reinstall it with dpkg...
[12:55] <GrandPa-G> I am confused about ports "open" when ufw is disabled. My googling gives conflicting answers. If I use https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=scan%3afoo.com&run=toolpage# and ufw is disabled, should I get any port status open?
[12:57] <geirha> eskatrem: yikes. Did you add a bad ppa or something?
[12:57] <eskatrem> geirha: not AFAIK. I didnt add a ppa recently
[12:58] <jk^> !burning
[12:59] <Seveas> eskatrem: that sounds horrendously wrong. Do you still have the console output of that apt-get command?
[13:00] <alkisg> eskatrem: why, what's the message you get when you try to install apt with dpkg?
[13:00] <eskatrem> Seveas: here is the end of my apt history (from /var/log/apt/history.log): http://paste.ubuntu.com/26139293/
[13:01] <Seveas> eskatrem: ok, not quite as disastrous as I expected. My next question is the same as alkisg's :)
[13:02] <eskatrem> alkisg Seveas here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26139300/
[13:02] <geirha> seems it just removed all :i386 packages
[13:02] <eskatrem> yikes
[13:02] <Seveas> It did not
[13:03] <geirha> so 64 bit apt should still be installed
[13:03] <Seveas> eskatrem: you're installing libapt-pkg, which wasn't removed. Try installing apt
[13:03] <eskatrem> I have an i7 by the way, I am not sure if I should install :i386 or :amd64 packages
[13:03] <Seveas> geirha: this seems to be an i386 system
[13:03] <alkisg> eskatrem: dpkg --print-architecture
[13:03] <eskatrem> oh thanks alkisg
[13:03] <geirha> but it also mentions :amd64 packages
[13:03] <alkisg> Also, which ubuntu version is that?
[13:04] <eskatrem> ok, it's i386. I have ubuntu 17.10
[13:04] <linuxthefish> hi, why do I have a load of messages like "Starting delivery, 6099 message(s) in queue." in /var/log/syslog? my server is on the internet!
[13:04] <Seveas> !info apt
[13:04] <Seveas> !info apt zesty
[13:04] <Seveas> artful
[13:05] <alkisg> eskatrem: start there: https://packages.ubuntu.com/zesty/apt
[13:05] <alkisg> Ah sorry artful
[13:05] <Seveas> hm, wait
[13:05] <Seveas> it installed 64 bit apt and remved 32bit apt
[13:05] <alkisg> https://packages.ubuntu.com/artful/apt
[13:05] <eskatrem> alkisg Seveas here is what I get when trying to install apt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26139312/
[13:05] <Seveas> are you trying to move from 32 to 64 bit?
[13:06] <eskatrem> hmm no
[13:06] <Seveas> eskatrem: uname -a; lsb_release -a; dpkg --print-architecture
[13:06] <Seveas> (and pastebin the output of all that)
[13:07] <linuxthefish> when i do apt-get remove nullmailer why does it want to install exim? i don't want to send emails!!
[13:07] <Seveas> add dpkg --print-foreign-architectures to that list
[13:07] <alkisg> eskatrem: also, the output of this: dpkg -l '*apt*' | grep -v ^un
[13:07] <Seveas> linuxthefish: because something you installed wants an mta to be installed
[13:07] <linuxthefish> ah i just deleted "/etc/nullmailer /usr/lib/nullmailer /usr/share/man/man7/nullmailer.7.gz /etc/init.d/nullmailer" stupid email
[13:08] <tomreyn> linuxthefish: you'll have soemthing installed which depends on an mta
[13:08] <linuxthefish> tomreyn, how can i see what that is?
[13:09] <tomreyn> linuxthefish: i'm just trying to remember the mta meta package name
[13:09] <eskatrem> Seveas: here you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26139325/
[13:09] <Seveas> ok, so you have a 32 bit machine
[13:10] <Seveas> but for some reason a bunch of 64bit packages got installed
[13:10] <Seveas> dpkg -l | grep amd64
[13:10] <Seveas> pastebin the result
[13:10] <eskatrem> alkisg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26139331/
[13:11] <tomreyn> linuxthefish: mail-transport-agent
[13:11] <tomreyn> linuxthefish: try removing this package
[13:11] <eskatrem> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26139337/
[13:12] <linuxthefish> tomreyn, "Virtual packages like 'mail-transport-agent' can't be removed" O.o
[13:12] <Seveas> ah. This broke when you installed skypeforlinux
[13:12] <Seveas> so let's first remove that: sudo dpkg -P skypeforlinxu
[13:12] <eskatrem> Seveas: you're saying that I have a 32 bits machine, for some reason I installed packages for 64 bits, and then somehow apt decided to remove itself because of that
[13:12] <tomreyn> linuxthefish: good point. ;) do you still have any exim packages installed? dpkg -l 'exim*'
[13:12] <Seveas> eskatrem: there are a few more steps in that process, but basically yes
[13:13] <eskatrem> wow, I have no idea how you could get that
[13:13] <Seveas> and the package that caused this was skype
[13:13] <eskatrem> and I removed skype for linux by the way
[13:13] <linuxthefish> thanks tomreyn, fixed now!
[13:13] <Seveas> cool, now let's get apt back in order
[13:13] <eskatrem> hmm but I installed skype months ago
[13:13] <linuxthefish> the best skype client for linux is their web client, https://web.skype.com/en/
[13:14] <eskatrem> best/less worse
[13:14] <Seveas> eskatrem: dpkg -P libapt-pkg5.0:amd64
[13:15] <Seveas> might fail, in that case: dpkg -P libapt-pkg5.0:amd64 synaptic:amd64
[13:15] <eskatrem> Seveas: it did fail, gonna try the second instruction
[13:16] <Seveas> if that fails, pastebin output
[13:16] <alkisg> apt-transport-https:amd64 too
[13:16] <eskatrem> it failed... gonna pastebin the output
[13:16] <Seveas> alkisg: probably, yes
[13:16] <linuxthefish> is it possible to remove messages like this from the syslog? "Dec  8 13:11:01 user-OptiPlex-760 CRON[13124]: (root) CMD (bash cloudflare.sh > /dev/null)"
[13:16] <linuxthefish> i have to run this cron ever minute, and it's a lot of syslog spam
[13:16] <eskatrem> alkisg Seveas http://paste.ubuntu.com/26139377/
[13:17] <Seveas> alkisg: one point for you :)
[13:17] <alkisg> ;)
[13:17] <alkisg> bbiab
[13:17] <Seveas> eskatrem: dpkg -P libapt-pkg5.0:amd64 synaptic:amd64 apt-transport-https:amd64
[13:17] <eskatrem> yeah ok it did work after I added apt-transport-https:amd64
[13:18] <Seveas> cool, now try dpkg --configure -a
[13:18] <eskatrem> ok done, worked fine
[13:18] <Seveas> apt-get install --reinstall apt apt-transport-https
[13:19] <Seveas> and if that works, pastebin the outut of a new run of dpkg -l | grep amd64
[13:19] <eskatrem> WOW, it (seems to) work(s)
[13:19] <eskatrem> it WORKED!
[13:19] <Seveas> cool, apt works, time to clean up more
[13:19] <eskatrem> apt-get autoremove ?
[13:20] <Seveas> apt-get -s autoremove
[13:20] <Seveas> (and pastebin the output, together with that of dpkg -l | grep amd64)
[13:21] <Neo1> how to check default app on ubuntu I installed or now?
[13:21] <Seveas> Neo1: I'm afraid that that sentence doesn't quite parse... can you rephrase?
[13:22] <eskatrem> Seveas: there you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26139398/
[13:22] <Neo1> I reinstalled server and tried ufw app list and get error this app doesn't exists
[13:22] <eskatrem> yek, I do have a bunch of amd:64 packages
[13:23] <Neo1> command now found, http://prntscr.com/hksata
[13:23] <Neo1> What does it mean?
[13:23] <Seveas> eskatrem: apt-get autoremoves removes a few more packages than just the amd64 ones. If you're ok with that, run it :)
[13:23] <Seveas> eskatrem: and afterwards, do another dpkg -l | grep amd64 and see what's left (pastebin)
[13:23] <Seveas> Neo1: that means ufw has not been installed
[13:24] <Neo1> Seveas: it was installed on ubuntu server default and on other server not, why?
[13:24] <Neo1> Seveas: they use differ ISO?
[13:24] <Seveas> Neo1: no idea. I hate that thing anyway, so it's always removed on my servers :)
[13:24] <eskatrem> hmm... how does `apt-get autoremoves` decide what to remove?
[13:25] <Neo1> Seveas: how I can check list of apps installed on my server?
[13:25] <Neo1> seems on this server default much
[13:25] <Seveas> eskatrem: if you install package A, and it depends on B, C, and D, then B, C and D are marked as auto-installed. If you then remove A, autoremove will see that B, C, and D can also be removed
[13:26] <Neo1> Seveas: I can install my OS on virtual server?
[13:26] <Seveas> Neo1: dpkg -l | grep ^ii
[13:26] <eskatrem> ok so basically the packages that were installed as dependencies of packages that were removed afterwards
[13:26] <Seveas> eskatrem: correct
[13:27] <eskatrem> uh I seem to have lots of amd64 packages still http://paste.ubuntu.com/26139420/
[13:28] <Seveas> eskatrem: apt-get -s remove libc6:amd64
[13:28] <Neo1> in my server exists disks, I can install OS from ISO? http://prntscr.com/hksdpi
[13:28] <Seveas> and pastebin the output. That *should* get rid of all of them (except that -s makes it a noop and it just shows what it would do)
[13:30] <Seveas> Neo1: that's a question for your hoster. Ubuntu supports installing on virtual servers just fine, but no idea how that's done in your environment.
[13:31] <eskatrem> Seveas: nope, still some left: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26139436/
[13:32] <geirha> the -s only simulated, it didn't remove anything
[13:32] <Seveas> eskatrem: because -s means 'don't actually do this'. I wanted to see the output first, as it could do bad things :)
[13:32] <Seveas> but it doesn't. So run it without -s
[13:33] <gulzar> anyone using vlc and themes (eg: arc-dark, deepdark etc) with vlc? I always get two windows in VLC. One hidden and one playing video. But with default theme there is only one window. Anyone?
[13:34] <eskatrem> ok, it's removing stuff now
[13:34] <fub> alkisg: so the trick I posted works fine!
[13:34] <fub> thanks anyway for your help :)
[13:35] <Neo1> there also nano not found
[13:35] <Neo1> vi instead
[13:35] <Neo1> how check ubuntu version?
[13:36] <eskatrem> Seveas I finished to remove libc6:amd64 but I still have some amd64 packages left
[13:36] <EraserPencil> What is the difference between setting up static IP from this guide https://www.modmypi.com/blog/how-to-give-your-raspberry-pi-a-static-ip-address-update
[13:36] <Neo1> seems there is not ubuntu 16.04
[13:36] <eskatrem> I suppose it's not such a big deal now...
[13:36] <EraserPencil> and this guide https://www.modmypi.com/blog/tutorial-how-to-give-your-raspberry-pi-a-static-ip-address
[13:37] <eskatrem> Seveas: I was impressed that you could diagnose and solve my problems so easily, thanks a lot!
[13:37] <Neo1> host support say me I can install any OS, load ISO and make hi as load OS and setup
[13:38] <Neo1> it means I can even windows server setup there
[13:38] <Neo1> on VPS can install any OS yes?
[13:38] <Neo1> on digitalocean too or only from list?
[13:39] <jurgentje> did anyone in here already try installing pulseaudio-equalizer on Ubuntu 17.10 (64 bits)? Here, it says it's installed, but I can't find a way to open it.
[13:39] <ducasse> Neo1: we don't support digitalocean, they do. ask them.
[13:39] <Thyriaen> i just installed ubuntu 17.10 on my x1 carbon and everything works as it should ( wifi, sleep, shutdown, trackpad ) will those things work out of the box aswell when i choose the Minimal Install ( the 50MB install ) or how much work would i have to do to get those drivers working ?
[13:41] <Thyriaen> I am asking because i had some problems when installing debian or other ubuntu based distributions - so thats why i am asking
[13:44] <alkisg> (03:34:43 μμ) fub: alkisg: so the trick I posted works fine! => nice
[13:48] <fub> Thyriaen: Im running 17.01 on a x1c here as well, except the fingerprint reader everything works
[13:49] <Thyriaen> fub: did you install with the minimal iso ? ( given here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD )
[13:49] <fub> no, I took the default installation
[13:49] <fub> but Im not running gnome
[13:49] <Thyriaen> fub: yea the default installer works for me perfectly too
[13:50] <Thyriaen> fub: but i prefer a minimal install - so i am wondering how much extra work i would have to do in oder to get everything working
[13:53] <fub> okay
[14:00] <Seveas> eskatrem: you're welcome :) And I've been doing support in here for 13 years, I've seen a lot of things before, this was not the first multiarch weirdness :)
[14:02] <ducasse> Thyriaen: depends what you mean by 'everything'
[14:02] <ducasse> Thyriaen: it's mostly a matter of just installing the right packages
[14:06] <Thyriaen> ducasse: by 'everything' i was refering to the appropriate drivers for my hardware
[14:08] <Thyriaen> ducasse: so how to get wifi working - cause on ubuntu i was using the proprietary iwlwifi package which had the effect of not shutting down my laptop correctly cause it would hang on the shutdown procedure of iwlwifi
[14:08] <Thyriaen> ducasse: so really all i want is wifi support, touchpad & trackpoint and proper shutdown with sleep support
[14:13] <Repentance> Can anyone help with this wifi issue I'm having? Lame
[14:14] <tomreyn> Repentance: depends on the issue, did you describe it, yet?
[14:19] <Repentance> Sure tomreyn
[14:19] <ducasse> tomreyn: most wifi chipsets are supported by the kernel, some require firmwares (but i don't know about yours), touchpad etc is normally included in the x packages, and shutdown/sleep is now handled by systemd/logind iirc
[14:19] <Repentance> Thank you.
[14:19] <Repentance> https://askubuntu.com/questions/983103/after-installing-bluetooth-headphones-wifi-drops is my question
[14:20] <Repentance> I'm using firmware.
[14:20] <tomreyn> Repentance: i believae what ducasse just addressed at me was meant to go to you
[14:21] <Repentance> Ah. Let me go looking.
[14:21] <Repentance> I continuously have to rely on my firmware to restart my wifi after it keeps dropping connection.
[14:22] <Repentance> I'm having to c&p sudo modprobe -r rtl8821ae && sudo modprobe rtl8821ae every few minutes
[14:24] <Repentance> I tried entering a command on my iwlwifi.conf file, but to no avail. And I was given a warning that my parameters in my rtl8821ae.conf file were being ignored.
[14:25] <tomreyn> Repentance:  sorry, reading it again i guess duscasse was actually talking to Thyriaen
[14:26] <Repentance> Ah ok.
[14:26] <tomreyn> Repentance: i'll check your askubuntu post now
[14:26] <Repentance> Thanks
[14:27] <Repentance> Me and quite a few others are going through the same issue. I tried contacting the firmware driver's author via GitHub but it wasn't successful.
[14:28] <Repentance> https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new/issues
[14:29] <Thyriaen> ducasse: ok - sounds good
[14:29] <Thyriaen> ducasse: if my wifi works on 17.10 does that mean it is included in the kernel and thus should also work with the minimal install ? :)
[14:29] <liefer> I would very much like to have vfio-pci load before xhci_hcd, is that possible? it seems that because xhci_hcd is compiled into the kernel (not as a module) i cannot get vfio-pci to load for my device before xhci_hcd has already claimed it.... what do?
[14:30] <tomreyn> Repentance: let'S start from the very beginning: which ubuntu (also point) release are you running, is it all updated, which hardware do you have exactly there?
[14:32] <Repentance> Sure.
[14:32] <Repentance> Running 17.10 with all updates made.
[14:35] <Repentance> Running an ASUS X555LAB w/ 7.7GiB Mem, Intel Core i7-5500CPU.
[14:38] <tomreyn> Repentance: what does "lspci -nn | grep Network && lsusb | grep Network" return?
[14:38] <Repentance> sure, I think I just ran lshw
[14:38] <Repentance> Which said  RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
[14:38] <Repentance> Hold on.
[14:39] <Repentance> 03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8821AE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network Adapter [10ec:8821]
[14:39] <alkisg> grep -i wireless....
[14:40] <Repentance> Thanks.. yeah, that last one was wired.
[14:42] <ducasse> Thyriaen: the intel cards usually 'just work', ime
[14:43] <Thyriaen> ducasse: alright thanks i will try the minimal install when i get home and hope everything 'just works' :p
[14:44] <ducasse> Thyriaen: remember to install the x stuff if you want a gui :)
[14:45] <Thyriaen> ducasse: ye xD
[14:47] <ducasse> Thyriaen: i've went this route myself a fair few times, and it always seems there's one or two more x-something packages i need to install for stuff to work as expected. most are pretty obvious, though :)
[14:48] <Thyriaen> ducasse: oh well
[14:48] <Thyriaen> ducasse: i did the same on debian
[14:48] <tomreyn> Repentance: so the rtl88921ae driver which comes with 17.10 does not provide stable connectivity out of the box, right?
[14:49] <tomreyn> Repentance: those combo modules (wireless + bluetooth) can be tricky.
[14:49] <GrandPa-G> if I am connected via ssh (port 22) and then I put in a rule for the firewall to block port 22, will I immedately be disconnected? i.e. when does the rule start, now or next boot?
[14:50] <tomreyn> Repentance: i found this similar report, I assume you've come across similar posts as well https://askubuntu.com/questions/972335/ubuntu-17-10-wifi-issues . If the stock 17.10 drivers do not work well for you, did you try building and loading the driver from the Git repository references by thios post, yet?
[14:51] <tomreyn> i.e. https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new.git
[14:51] <ducasse> tomreyn: unless imisremember totally, that particular chipset is infamous for making problems
[14:52] <tomreyn> search results suggest this
[14:52] <Repentance> Yeah, and if you see the Issues on the github page, rtl8821ae has been mentioned numerous times.
[14:52] <Repentance> Unstable connectvity.
[14:53] <Repentance> tomreyn If I could undo this, I would have. I had downloaded the firmware modules from the rtlwifi_new git, and it was working until thath appened.
[14:53] <Repentance> Let me read that post.
[14:54] <Repentance> Question tomreyn. I wondered about maybe 'uninstalling' and reinstalling. However, I wouldn't know how to do this.
[14:55] <Repentance> Because I tried to entering sudo make install via terminal and for some reason I got a no target error.
[14:56] <Repentance> I even uninstalled the Bluetooth headphones and my Bluetooth is turned off, EVEN though I have had installs from other Bluetooth devices in the past, like my wireless speakers.
[14:56] <ecdhe> Is there a definitive reference on administrating changes to xenial graphical sessions (adding workspaces, changing wallpaper, changing terminal profile preferences, removing icons from the dash, changing power button behavior and sleep settings, etc)
[14:57] <ecdhe> I can script this stuff when a single user is logged in, but I'd like to be able to configure it for mutliple users when they are not logged in.
[14:57] <ducasse> Repentance: no target = probably no makefile
[14:58] <Repentance> Weird, I was looking at the Makefile, too which confused me... and looking at the file it was targeting. Let me gitclone these files again.
[15:05] <Repentance> I like how the author of the firmware replied to me that I was entering "arbitrary parameters that you do not understand" . Noob alert.
[15:06] <Repentance> I'm going to restart my computer now tomreyn and see if there was any change. As arbitrary of a parameter he said it was, my wifi hasn't crashed yet and it's been almost 15 - 20 minutes now.
[15:07] <tomreyn> Repentance: so youz are pachecohjr on Github and the issue you reported is https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new/issues/294 - I assume.
[15:07] <Repentance> I went ahead and just recompiled and reinstalled the driver files, esp. since I saw there was an update 2 months ago in the btcoexist folder.
[15:07] <Repentance> Yes, tomreyn that's me.
[15:08] <tomreyn> Repentance: okay, it's good to know what we'Re tlaking about
[15:08] <tomreyn> Repentance: try shutting down the system and removing power, also battery, then replug both and power it up again.
[15:09] <Repentance> Good idea. Be back in a bit.
[15:11] <jk^> On guide's page i read it's better burn DVD at a low speed. Have i to set the "lowest" speed in the burning software?
[15:12] <jk^> https://pastebin.com/raw/bNH3YyQc
[15:15] <MWM> I have been reading https://askubuntu.com/questions/32164/what-does-a-keyring-do and want to check if I understand what the keyring is correctly
[15:17] <MWM> so (as I understand it) the keyring is an encryption system for anything that stores a password (like your web browser) so that the file containing these stored passwords is encrypted?
[15:18] <tomreyn> Repentance: so, i think the reply of 'lwfinger' to the issue you posted at https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new/issues/294 is a good place to start, and may require some translations / explanations. He has a point about you risking to break hardware if you apply module options you have not read documentation for.
[15:20] <Repentance> Thank you.
[15:20] <jk^> anyone can help me?
[15:20] <jk^> On guide's page i read it's better burn DVD at a low speed. Have i to set the "lowest" speed in the burning software?
[15:20] <jk^> https://pastebin.com/raw/bNH3YyQc
[15:21] <tomreyn> Repentance: he also discusses that the 'default view' on this Git repository he provides is actually quite outdated and you'd better use the one available in the mainline kernel (i.e. what ubuntu are built from)
[15:21] <Repentance> I'll look up this parameter, however, it seems like the wifi is running stable again.
[15:21] <Repentance> Understood. And how can I do that, then?
[15:22] <tomreyn> Repentance: do what, use the default kernel + module? you'd undo the changes you may have made and maybe reinstall the packages ubuntu provides.
[15:23] <Repentance> Yes.
[15:23] <tomreyn> Repentance: do you currently use custom module parameters? which driver / kernel module do you currently use, the one from ubuntu, the one from iwfinger, or something else? do you use a different kernel, too?
[15:24] <Repentance> I believe I'm using iwfinger's.
[15:24] <Repentance> And I think a different kernel.
[15:24] <Repentance> How may I confirm?
[15:24] <tomreyn> "cat /proc/version" should tell you about your kernel
[15:25] <tomreyn> "cat /proc/cmdline" should tell you about custom kernel boot options.
[15:25] <Repentance> OK, cool.
[15:25] <Repentance> Linux version 4.13.0-19-generic (buildd@lcy01-amd64-021) (gcc version 7.2.0 (Ubuntu 7.2.0-8ubuntu3)) #22-Ubuntu SMP Mon Dec 4 11:58:07 UTC 2017
[15:25] <tomreyn> and the files in /etc/modprobe.d/ should contain any custom module parameters
[15:26] <Repentance> Right. I've been in modprobe.d resolving some of the issues I've had since this all started.
[15:26] <rrman> Hello. The ghost of my MTP device remains when I replug it once more there are more ghosts shown in Nautilus, also when I run the command "gio mount -l". Command log: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26140000/
[15:27] <rrman> Volume 1 to 4 is the same and 3 of them aren't mounted.
[15:27] <tomreyn> Repentance: "modinfo rtl8821ae" should provide information on the kernel module itself
[15:29] <Repentance> I can view the information, yes, thank you.
[15:29] <tomreyn> Repentance: you seem to be running the default artful (17.10) kernel
[15:29] <Repentance> Yes.
[15:29] <Repentance> And I will keep it that way.
[15:30] <tomreyn> Repentance: the end of the lsmod output explains which module parameters are available and (sometimes) what they do
[15:30] <Repentance> icarus@icarus-X555LAB:~$ modinfo rtl8821ae filename:       /lib/modules/4.13.0-19-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/realtek/rtlwifi/rtl8821ae/rtl8821ae.ko
[15:31] <Repentance> Yes, I see the parameters available.
[15:32] <Repentance> I see the control power save here. But, in the github he mentions how the parameter applies to the wireless interfaces and not the host computer. Wouldn't that mean then that the parameter I entered for turning off firmware power-save control, not work?
[15:33] <Repentance> Or would it work on somewhere else besides my computer? I'm assuming this laptop is the host computer.
[15:38] <tomreyn> Repentance: package "linux-image-extra-4.13.0-19-generic" provides the /lib/modules/4.13.0-19-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/realtek/rtlwifi/rtl8821ae/rtl8821ae.ko module file. to make sure you use the module provided by ubuntu, you can run: sudo apt reinstall linux-image-extra-4.13.0-19-generic
[15:40] <tomreyn> Repentance: about power control: fwlps=0 disabled power control by the module, supposedly meaning it will push as much power to the chipset as it can at all time. this can break hardware if it's not meant to run fully powered at all time.
[15:41] <tomreyn> more likely, it won't immediately break it but it may remarkably reduce its remaining life time (so it may fail in weeks rather than 10 years)
[15:42] <akik> there's also the option to disable the wireless power management with "iwconfig wlan0 power off" that has helped me many times with wireless problems
[15:44] <tomreyn> Repentance: with a problematic wireless chipset like yours i would just decide to use it for either wireless or bluetooth, not both. probably wireless. and if i need the other functionality i'd provide this by connecting a seperate piece of hardware to usb (or other buses you have available).
[15:47] <arora> hey, is there any way to get git flow chart?
[15:47] <Repentance> Thank you tomreyn. It unfortunately seems like that would have to be the option I'd have to take. I don't use Bluetooth that often anyway.
[15:48] <Repentance> Thanks tomreyn, I will make sure I'm running the module provided by ubuntu since I see it available for use.
[15:48] <isaiahnixon> I have a live persistent usb install of ubuntu 16.04 and I want to make a new default user. I know there are some caveats to doing things that way. Anybody have any advice?
[15:51] <Emospice> Good morning. I'm currently having trouble debugging a problem with systemd user jobs seemingly not getting a journal entry. Is there somewhere I might read up on how this behavior is handled? The SystemD logs seem to indicate all I have to do is set "StandardOutput" and possibly "StandardError" to "journal" and "inherit" (or "journal" and "journal").
[15:51] <Emospice> (this is on 16.04, if that changes anything)
[15:52] <Repentance> tomreyn I tried reinstall just in case: got error message E: Invalid operation reinstall
[15:52] <alkisg> isaiahnixon: just install ubuntu on the usb instead of using the live version :D
[15:52] <alkisg> Then you can have persistance, users and all
[15:54] <isaiahnixon> alkisg, I have tried time and again. I cannot get a proper uefi boot with a full install.
[15:54] <tomreyn> Repentance: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall
[15:54] <tomreyn> + package name
[15:56] <ducasse> isaiahnixon: check the grub-install man page on the --removable option
[15:57] <jk^> problem with burning :(
[15:59] <Repentance> Thank you tomreyn, just did it.
[16:00] <Repentance> Hopefully this stays working.
[16:00] <isaiahnixon> ducasse, do you have a guide for how to use that flag in a practical sense. Because I have installed Grub on a boot partition of a full ubuntu install before with that flag and it has not worked out for me.
[16:02] <alkisg> isaiahnixon: I haven't seen any such issues, did you use an mbr or a gpt partitioned stick, and did you have a vfat efi partition there?
[16:03] <alkisg> Since your stick obviously boots, it's just a matter of providing a grub.cfg, to boot a normal ubuntu from there...
[16:04] <isaiahnixon> I used gpt and this usb is an hdd not flash. if that makes any difference.
[16:04] <leftyfb> How can I get some traction on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/1736794 ? I know oerheks was interested in looking into it the other day but I haven't seen them online since.
[16:05] <alkisg> isaiahnixon: not much difference, and what was the error message while trying to boot it?
[16:07] <jk^> https://pastebin.com/raw/hGS3US1D
[16:07] <jk^> :(
[16:07] <isaiahnixon> No error message, just the grub terminal. A recovery revealed that the grub install could not find root or home partitions or even the linux kernel, despite me writing in the uuids in the fdisk file.
[16:08] <alkisg> isaiahnixon: I would suggest trying it again, and coming here to troubleshoot any issues. Don't do anything manually, just a normal installation on the external disk.
[16:09] <isaiahnixon> A normal install assumes a dual boot environment.
[16:09] <isaiahnixon> Which means I have to reconfigure my boot settings on Windows, again.
[16:10] <isaiahnixon> Unless I'm just doing it wrong (very probable at this point)
[16:10] <alkisg> isaiahnixon: no mixing of boot managers
[16:10] <alkisg> The efi partition would be on the external disk
[16:10] <alkisg> Not related at all to the efi partition on your internal disk
[16:11] <alkisg> The external disk would be bootable in any pc, not related to your internal disk at all
[16:11] <alkisg> You can even remove the internal disk while installing :D
[16:12] <isaiahnixon> That might be a good idea lol. The efi partition on my internal has picked up the install even when I set the boot instructions to go to the external drive.
[16:14] <isaiahnixon> Thank you for your time, alkisg and ducasse :)
[16:14] <alkisg> np
[16:31] <Epx998> Is there an option for service to get only an exit code returned instead 'is running' or what have you?
[16:51] <Neo1> I include to virtual machine ISO with ubuntu server 16.04, I can it setup using shell?
[16:52] <Neo1> from one ubuntu run ISO with other ubuntu and install it
[16:53] <compdoc> if you boot an iso in a virtual machine, should install fine
[16:55] <Neo1> compdoc: I did not right, support has given me guide
[16:56] <Neo1> you make stop virtual machine and than run
[16:56] <Neo1> how to do who interesting https://www.host-food.ru/faq/vps/resize.disk.on.linux.vps/
[16:57] <compdoc> I cant read that
[16:57] <compdoc> are you saying everything works now?
[17:06] <ecdhe> What process is responsible for setting XDG_RUNTIME_DIR for my shell?
[17:07] <Neo1> how to get link on ubuntu server?
[17:08] <Neo1> I need link for VPS load from there
[17:09] <borw3> Wow, ubuntu is slow!!!
[17:09] <borw3> Memory hog
[17:09] <bcowan> lol
[17:09] <borw3> Boots with 1.3GB consumed.
[17:10] <borw3> And on new Gnome, it uses 1.5GB
[17:10] <borw3> even worse
[17:19] <kantlivelong> anyone know if converting ext4 to 64bit results in a large amount of data changing? would it be safe to take a lvm snapshot prior?
[17:25] <GrandPa-G> does anyone have a good idea how to remotely manage a ubuntu server in a server room when it doesn't seem to respond (like ports closed) without physically going to the server?
[17:26] <borw3> can you ping it?
[17:31] <lakitu> how can i play midi (easily)?
[17:31] <lakitu> hi, btw
[17:31] <lakitu> with gui
[17:32] <lakitu> all wiki's music theory files are / seem to be in midi
[17:32] <lakitu> & so far i can't find something to play them =/
[17:39] <nicomachus> lakitu: midi files are not technically music files. they have to be processed by sound synthesizer.
[17:40] <nicomachus> lakitu: you can convert the midi files to wav and play them that way.
[17:40] <shazbotmcnasty> Hey, I'm having difficulties transferring data from one external HDD to another. I dd'd the drive to another partition, but since it brought the partially corrupted file system, i have to transfer the data off, then back on.
[17:41] <shazbotmcnasty> When transferring with rsync, it only gets 404GB out of 582GB transferred
[17:41] <shazbotmcnasty> any way to ensure that it moves ALL data, in the exact same structure as the source drive?
[17:41] <shazbotmcnasty> other than dd, that is.
[17:42] <compdoc> you ever read teh drive's SMART info?
[17:42] <nicomachus> lakitu: there's a program called timidity that can convert easily. 'sudo apt install timidity', then 'timidity -Ow <filename>' will convert to .wav
[17:43] <shazbotmcnasty> the source drive is bad - I dd'd it to another drive, and it transferred everything - but it also brought the bad filesystem. I'm now transferring from that second drive to another one, then back onto the good drive. "Source > 2nd drive > 3rd drive > repair file system on 2nd drive > transfer good data back onto 2nd drive
[17:44] <lakitu> i'm aware what a midi file is, but it's a basic amenity to be able play them even with weak soundfonts,etc -
[17:45] <lakitu> i need a gui one, since i'm opening web-files
[17:46] <nicomachus> lakitu: you can try rhythmbox
[17:46] <nicomachus> I've never used it.
[17:47] <realies> using teamviewer on a headless ubuntu 16.04 produces some extremely low fps feed
[17:47] <realies> any ideas?
[17:47] <realies> resolution is low and all animations, etc are 1fps and like moving in slow motion
[17:51] <nicomachus> realies: wait, teamviewer on a headless server? with no gui? what am I missing?
[17:53] <romance> hello, any bad thing may happen if i change ip_default_ttl to 65? on vps
[17:58] <shazbotmcnasty> I have to go to an on-site, but if anyone knows of a good way to do what I asked please let me know. I'll leave this open.
[18:02] <realies> nicomachus, by headless i mean no monitor
[18:02] <jk^> [17:07] <jk^> https://pastebin.com/raw/hGS3US1D
[18:02] <jk^> [17:07] * seen_ (~seen_@gateway/tor-sasl/seen/x-50706747) has joined #ubuntu
[18:02] <jk^> [17:07] <jk^> :(
[18:02] <jk^> [17:07] <isaiahnixon> No error message, just the grub terminal. A recovery revealed that the grub install could not find root or home partitions or even the linux kernel, despite me writing in the uuids in the fdisk file.
[18:03] <jk^> is it for me the message?
[18:03] <jk^> :|
[18:03] <nicomachus> realies: ok, that's much different than headless
[18:05] <hotwater99999> I'm seeing similiar notices or maybe errors in syslog and kern.log to the rate of like sometimes serveral per second or a few each seconds..so this is producing a bunch of these notices or errors concering i2p and or zulu9 which is a version of openjdk java: https://zerobin.net/?c6930faece4af844#wKGWqPAj4S4V1NtMek3Xug6BHAdnb5ERQakqyvCPoQM=
[18:05] <hotwater99999> those logs where slightly edited
[18:06] <hotwater99999> i mean or a few every 3 seconds or so ..in another words a whole bunch of those.
[18:07] <hotwater99999> the reason i started looking is because im getting segment faults in another program and I started digging in the sys logs and so a bunch of those..
[18:07] <jk^> Do u understand which is the problem/s?
[18:07] <jk^> https://pastebin.com/raw/s7578UXC
[18:08] <nicomachus> jk^: use rufus
[18:09] <leftyfb> How can I get some traction on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/1736794 ? It's become pretty mission critical.
[18:09] <realies> nicomachus, nope https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headless_computer
[18:38] <steenman> what on earth does this mean
[18:38] <steenman> version magic '4.10.0-38-generic SMP mod_unload ' should be '4.10.0-40-generic SMP mod_unload '
[18:41] <steenman> i plugged a a wireless usb adapter in
[18:42] <genii> The driver for it contains what version it is within some bytes in the driver itself, "magic bytes"
[18:42] <steenman> are you serious?
[18:43] <genii> So it's telling you the driver says it's for kernel version 4.10.0-38 but you're currently on kernel 4.10.0-40
[18:44] <steenman> that makes sense because i havent plugged this device in for a while but the system has had updates to it
[18:44] <ylwghst> How should generate vmlinuz ?
[18:44] <ylwghst> I
[18:44] <steenman> hmm the driver is the latest i beleive
[18:45] <steenman> *believe
[18:49] <genii> steenman: If you want to override the version number, it would be done in /etc/modules
[18:50] <genii> Sorry on lag, I'm back and forth from doing work away from the computer
[18:51] <genii> steenman: With the --force-vermagic option of modprobe
[18:52] <steenman> right ill look into that - thxs
[18:53] <ugnius> Hi, my wireless is not connecting to 5Ghz band, I'm on ubuntu 17.10, network managed by NetworkManager, Windows has no problem connecting, WiFi-card http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/cat-11_Archer-T9E.html, my router - TP-Link TL-WDR3600 v1 with flashed DD-WRT, 5Ghz channel has own SSID, encryption WPA2-AES, Channel - Auto (currently 40, card supports up to 106).
[18:54] <ugnius> Oh and 5Ghz channel is set to N-Only
[19:01] <supeingo> Hi, anyone know the way to hibernate in 17.10?
[19:01] <supeingo> I can't see the bottom :(
[19:02] <genii> ylwghst: vmlinuz is provided by kernel package. So if you're missing one for the default GRUB entry it's probably for whatever version kernel your linux-image-generic package is. Boot into an earlier kernel which is working, then: sudo apt update&& sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic
[19:03] <genii> ylwghst: Then reboot and see if the default one is working now.
[19:03] <genii> ..or not
[19:10] <genii> ugnius: Check that package bcmwl-kernel-source is installed
[19:11] <genii> !info bcmwl-kernel-source
[19:11] <ugnius> genii: thanks, but bcmwl-kernel-source/artful,now 6.30.223.271+bdcom-0ubuntu3 amd64 [installed]
[19:11] <genii> ugnius: You may need to enable the "restricted" repository first, as the bot shows that's where it is
[19:12] <genii> ugnius: So see if the w1 driver is loaded
[19:12] <genii> wl rather
[19:13] <ugnius> It's loaded I suppose: lsmod | grep wl / wl                   6447104  0
[19:14] <ugnius> genii: I'ts now on 2.4 Ghz band and working, but 5Ghz refuses to connect, not sure how to troubleshoot
[19:15] <ugnius> genii: I thought may be it's some well known bug, or complete silliness on my side
[19:17] <genii> ugnius: Maybe check if your access point that is using 5GHz has a hidden SSID, or not broadcasting, or possibly even not enabled
[19:18] <genii> Can you se it with some other thing, like your phone?
[19:18] <ugnius> genii: It sees SSID, asks for password, tries to connect but 30 sec later falls back to 2.4 Ghz
[19:20] <ugnius> genii: Just tried a phone, it has no problem connecting
[19:21] <bencc> is there a way to find external ip address without making a request to external server?
[19:24] <genii> ugnius: I'd tell it to forget the 2.4, then try again on the 5, and doublecheck the password, also make sure you're not doing something like maybe hitting capslock by accident during password entry, or numlock, etc
[19:25] <genii> ugnius: It might be reverting because the 2.4 signal is stronger
[19:26] <ugnius> genii: Ok, thanks for help, let this be a mystery for a while, not that it's vital or something
[19:29] <zimzam> Hi, I'm looking for some help. When I type n
[19:30] <zimzam> When I type nano -v, I want it to refer to nodejs -v. But creating a symbolic link doesn't work for me. I try typing ln -s /usr/bin/nodejs /usr/bin/node, but the error I receive is. ln: failed to create symbolic link ‘/usr/bin/node’: File exists
[19:30] <genii> bencc: Not really. But you might be able instead to logon to your modem/router and find out what it's IP is, if it's masquerading the computers on the LAN
[19:31] <akik> zimzam: isn't /usr/bin/node the application you wanted?
[19:31] <akik> zimzam: you can also create shell aliases to do that
[19:31] <zimzam> akik no because my /usr/bin/node returns version v0.12.7 when I type node -v. nodejs -v returns the correct version.
[19:32] <zimzam> v8.9.2
[19:32] <akik> zimzam: alias node=nodejs
[19:32] <zimzam> akik ok I'm trying that
[19:32] <akik> zimzam: the other choice is to remove the package that delivered /usr/bin/node
[19:33] <zimzam> akik I tried that as well, but when I type sudo apt-get purge node, it tells me that no node package exists
[19:33] <zimzam> strange, I know
[19:33] <akik> zimzam: no it's not strange
[19:33] <akik> zimzam: use: dpkg -S /usr/bin/node to see which package it comes from
[19:34] <zimzam> akik the reponse is "nodejs: /usr/bin/node"
[19:34] <zimzam> but that doesn't make sense because the version I get when I type node -v is different from nodejs -v
[19:35] <akik> zimzam: maybe a packager's problem then
[19:35] <ylwghst> Any alternative to nvidiabl module??
[19:35] <akik> zimzam: you can also list the nodejs package contents with: dpkg -L nodejs
[19:35] <zimzam> akik should I try adding alias node=nodejs to my ~/.bashrc?
[19:36] <akik> zimzam: that would work
[19:36] <zimzam> akik I added node=nodejs to my ~/.bashrc, but node -v still returns the wrong version
[19:38] <akik> zimzam: start a new shell
[19:38] <zimzam> ahh it works now, thank you akik
[19:38] <zimzam> restarting the shell did it
[19:39] <akik> zimzam: you could report that problem
[19:43] <akik> zimzam: i read on the web that there's even a ubuntu package called node
[19:43] <akik> !info node
[19:43] <zimzam> hmm
[19:43] <miniboxer> Hello, I had a problem before with ubuntu and someone gave me commands to have ubuntu autoinstall all the drivers that I needed, and I was wondering if anyone knew them off Hans. Thanks!
[19:43] <akik> !info node trusty
[19:43] <akik> it's been removed since trusty
[19:44] <zimzam> Oh I see
[19:44] <akik> zimzam: could you check if /usr/bin/node is a symlink to something?
[19:44] <zimzam> akik yeah
[19:45] <zimzam> akik how do I check to see what /usr/bin/node is symlinked to?
[19:46] <akik> zimzam: ls -l /usr/bin/node
[19:46] <miniboxer> nvm I found the command
[19:48] <zimzam> akik for nodejs I get lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 Dec  8 14:24 /usr/bin/nodejs -> /etc/alternatives/nodejs. For /usr/bin/node I get -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 29091400 Dec  6 01:09 /usr/bin/node
[19:49] <zimzam> It looks like /usr/bin/nodejs is a symbolic link, but /usr/bin/node is not.
[19:49] <akik> zimzam: check that /etc/alternatives/nodejs too
[19:49] <akik> it's interesting that they would tell you different versions
[19:49] <zimzam> ah yes, and lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Dec  8 14:24 /etc/alternatives/nodejs -> /usr/bin/node
[19:50] <zimzam> So /usr/bin/nodejs refers back to /usr/bin/node
[19:50] <akik> zimzam: so they should be the same
[19:50] <akik> zimzam: some apps function differently according to how you call them
[19:50] <zimzam> they appear to be the same now. My new problem is that npm is using /usr/local/bin/node, which is still out of date. I need to create a symbolic link so that /usr/local/bin/node refers back to /usr/bin/node
[19:51] <akik> zimzam: i don't think ubuntu installs things to /usr/local
[19:51] <akik> zimzam: maybe that's where your version difference is coming from
[19:51] <zimzam> ./usr/local/bin/node -v returns the outdated version that's giving me problems, v0.12.7
[19:52] <akik> zimzam: you can use "which node" or "which nodejs" to show you the path
[19:52] <zimzam> npm is giving me an error because it's trying to run /usr/local/bin/node. I somehow have to stop that
[19:52] <zimzam> which node returns /usr/local/bin/node
[19:52] <zimzam> which nodejs returns /usr/bin/nodejs
[19:52] <akik> ok that's it then
[19:53] <akik> somehow /usr/local/bin is searched before /usr/bin ?
[19:53] <zimzam> I wonder why "which node" returns /usr/local/bin/node, which is out of date, but if I type node -v, I get the correct version
[19:53] <zimzam> yeah
[19:53] <zimzam> node -v
[19:53] <akik> zimzam: you fixed it with the shell alias
[19:53] <zimzam> oh yes
[19:54] <zimzam> How can I create a symbolic link so that /usr/local/bin/node refers to /usr/local/bin/node?
[19:54] <zimzam> err
[19:54] <zimzam> refers to /usr/bin/node
[19:54] <akik> zimzam: if you don't need it, i would remove it
[19:55] <zimzam> sudo rm /usr/local/bin/node? Then, ln -s /usr/bin/node /usr/local/bin/node ?
[19:55] <akik> zimzam: yes
[19:55] <zimzam> ok thanks I'll try it
[19:55] <akik> zimzam: i meant, remove it completely :)
[19:56] <zimzam> Well, the versions are correct now. thanks for the help
[20:16] <alexas> my ubuntu have some software center problem and recently after i've tried to install emacs-snapshot it would not update any mode, here is the log https://0bin.net/paste/5VwILXZx4arSdPJJ#IXrBI+6T2ndmpZokirrCC1f56rjOqnG9Ecnzg0XKmMn
[20:21] <alexas> now i've got constant 'system problem detected' and 'sorry, ubuntu 17.10 has experienced an internal error' pop-up in gnome asking me to send the report and each time I confirm it will show it again after few seconds
[20:31] <alkisg> alexas: ls /var/crash shows the error reports, and sudo rm /var/crash/* deletes them
[20:31] <alkisg> You're supposed to report them...
[20:33] <alexas> alkisg: how can I report them manually?
[20:34] <alkisg> Just click the ok button
[20:34] <alkisg> If you want command line, it's apport-bug /var/crash/whatever
[20:35] <alexas> alkisg: you mean click on the windo in the gnome that popping up saying there is an error?
[20:35] <alexas> window*
[20:36] <alkisg> yes
[20:36] <alkisg> There should be a [report bug] option there
[20:36] <alexas> alkisg: yes I did but I have constant repeat of the same window again and again
[20:36] <alexas> and I can't apparently update anything
[20:36] <alexas> please see log
[20:38] <alkisg> alexas, type: apt policy 'emacs*'
[20:38] <alkisg> and upload the result to pastebin
[20:38] <alkisg> You probably have some broken ppa or something...
[20:42] <ChunkzZ> I have the exact same problem as this, anyone know of a fix? https://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2335651.html
[20:42] <alexas> what is the prefix that can save the output of the command to the file, please?
[20:42] <alkisg> apt policy 'emacs*' | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:42] <alexas> aha thanks
[20:43] <alexas> alkisg: please see http://termbin.com/0m2x
[20:43] <alkisg> !info emacs-snapshot-common
[20:43] <alkisg> alexas: see, broken PPAs there
[20:44] <alkisg> Use ppa-purge to remove them, they are not supported here
[20:44] <alkisg> !ppa-purse
[20:44] <alkisg> !ppa-purge
[20:44] <alkisg> Remove the ubuntu-elisp ppa
[20:44] <ChunkzZ> anyone?
[20:45] <ChunkzZ> :P
[20:45] <alexas> alkisg: I can't seem to install app-purge http://termbin.com/0m2x
[20:46] <alkisg> Read again
[20:46] <alkisg> It's called ppa-purge
[20:46] <alexas> yes sorry I mistyped
[20:46] <alexas> http://termbin.com/iv74
[20:47] <alkisg> alexas: start with sudo apt purge --auto-remove emacs-snapshot
[20:49] <alexas> alkisg: done
[20:49] <alkisg> ok, everything ok now?
[20:49] <miniboxer> Hello, i just recently switched to ubuntu and i was wondering if there is a way to overclock my computer like with the percisionx program i used on windows.
[20:49] <miniboxer> . Thanks!
[20:50] <alexas> alkisg: there was a lot of stuff removed but am not sure how to test it now
[20:50] <alexas> alkisg: usually I get an error after the reboot, should I try it now?
[20:50] <alkisg> alexas: try sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:50] <alkisg> Also, to remove previous errors, sudo rm /var/crash/*
[20:50] <alkisg> Because those might have been related to the broken ppa
[20:50] <user401> how comes i am able to delete a root owned file in my home directory(0755) using pcmanfm and also nautilus but i can't delete it from the terminal without sudo?(lubuntu 16.04)
[20:51] <alkisg> user401: what's the output of `ls -lha . file` ?
[20:51] <alkisg> ls -lhad . file
[20:53] <alexas> alkisg: sorry but still the same error, apparently http://termbin.com/2fbv
[20:54] <alkisg> alexas: run sudo apt --fix-broken install, and put the result to pastebin before pressing enter
[20:54] <MonkeyDust> alexas  i didnt follow from the beginning or didnt read your initial question, but theres this... I picked this up in this channel ... save it as 'fixpackages' ... make executable with 'chmod +x fixpackages' ... then run it with './fixpackages' ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/15121279/
[20:55] <alexas> alkisg: http://termbin.com/f1fy
[20:56] <alkisg> alexas: eh, press y, although I doubt that will fix it
[20:56] <alexas> still got red indicator near system clock with package error message after system restart
[20:57] <alexas> alkisg: same error, you right!
[20:57] <alkisg> alexas: so if it doesn't work, go to http://termbin.com/0m2x,
[20:57] <alkisg> see which packages you got from the ppa, and purge them all in a single apt-get purge line
[20:58] <alkisg> e.g. sudo apt-get purge emacs-snapshot-nox-dev emacs-snapshot-common etc etc
[21:00] <alexas> alkisg: can't purge got the following error once again http://termbin.com/mwu5
[21:01] <alkisg> I don't see the command you used there
[21:01] <alexas> sudo apt-get purge emacs-snapshot-nox-dev
[21:03] <alkisg> Then you didn't do what i said
[21:03] <alkisg> I said put ALL the packages in one command
[21:04] <alexas> ok let me try again please
[21:04] <alexas> hold on
[21:14] <alexas> alkisg: so the command should look like this, right? https://pastebin.com/Sy7BnWps
[21:15] <alexas> ok I think I did
[21:15] <alexas> the ones I did not have it just says that they can't be removed
[21:17] <alexas> but I still got the fillowing error anyway
[21:23] <Jordan_U> adhawkins: Make sure to run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh grub-pc --frontend=text" to be sure that on future updates/upgrades grub will be installed to the boot sector of all of the drives (do *not* select any partitions).
[21:25] <alkisg> alexas: and what's the output of apt policy 'emacs*' now ?
[21:25] <alkisg> Are those packages still installed?
[21:26] <alexas> alkish ok I did apt --fix-broken install and it worked apparently
[21:26] <alexas> let me reboot
[21:27] <alkisg> remember to remove the ppa
[21:27] <alkisg> from your sources
[21:27] <isaiahnixon> So I installed ubuntu 16.04 on an external hard drive with the normal installer and told the installer to put the boot loader instructions on a 1 gig efi partition. Now I try to boot to the drive and literally nothing happens. What am I missing?
[21:29] <Jordan_U> isaiahnixon: What does happen when you try to boot? Do you see a white screen? Monitor off? Purple screen? Error message? Immediate reboot? Something else?
[21:30] <isaiahnixon> Jordan_U: I press f9 select the hard drive and get spat right back to the boot menu.
[21:30] <alexas> alkisg: I did but it seems to freeze on 'updating cache' afterwards.... waiting...
[21:31] <alexas> seems that it freezed or/and something wrong
[21:34] <alexas> alkisg: do you think my emacs policy file is ok now? http://termbin.com/3oaj
[21:38] <alexas> ok it seems that it was just my local server was slow am now updating from the main
[21:40] <thejester> how do the rules of the ufw interact with network name spaces ? will a rule set in the host itself also apply in a created nns ?
[21:40] <Jordan_U> isaiahnixon: Are you trying to boot the drive from the same computer that you rand the installer from?
[21:41] <isaiahnixon> Yes
[21:41] <isaiahnixon> However, I would like this hdd to be portable.
[21:42] <Jordan_U> isaiahnixon: Are you booted from a GNU/Linux system on that machine right now? If so, please pastebin the output of "sudo efibootmgr".
[21:42] <isaiahnixon> I am not on a linux system. It's an HP Windows laptop.
[21:43] <isaiahnixon> I can boot into the installer usb if that will help.
[21:44] <Jordan_U> isaiahnixon: Yes. Please do.
[21:45] <isaiahnixon> Jordan_U: Ok, I will be able to do that in a few minutes and I'll send the output.
[21:54] <mentalita> any thunar devs here? or other people who can help me make submenus in thunar for custom actions when you right click somewhere?
[21:59] <alexas> ok my updating cache seems to freeze again in software program
[22:00] <bencc> genii: thanks
[22:01] <mentalita> https://askubuntu.com/questions/984366/xubuntu-thunar-not-showing-templates-icon-correctly
[22:22] <Jordan_U> isaiahnixon: It looks like the UEFI boot entry that the Ubuntu installer added to your boot firmware didn't stick. You want to be able to boot this drive from machines that don't have an entry added anyway, so let's just get the drive to a state where no entry is needed.
[22:22] <Jordan_U> isaiahnixon: Do you know how to mount the EFI system partition from your external drive?
[22:23] <isaiahnixon> I think so
[22:27] <isaiahnixon> alright it's mounted
[22:27] <Jordan_U> isaiahnixon: OK. Where is it mounted to?
[22:28] <isaiahnixon> Jordan_U: /mnt
[22:29] <Jordan_U> isaiahnixon: Please pastebin the output of "find /mnt/".
[22:30] <isaiahnixon> Jordan_U: The output is just "/mnt/"
[22:31] <Jordan_U> isaiahnixon: Then you haven't mounted the EFI system partition there (or it's completely empty). Please pastebin the output of "mount" and "sudo blkid".
[22:35] <blueingress> Hi, I have problem updating firefox: E: Failed to fetch http://mirror-lax.psychz.net/Ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox_57.0.1+build2-0ubuntu0.17.10.1_amd64.deb  404  Not Found
[22:35] <isaiahnixon> Jordan_U: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26142240/
[22:35] <blueingress> Anyone have this problem?
[22:37] <vimart> blueingress: as it says - NOT FOUND
[22:38] <blueingress> vimart, How can I get through this?
[22:39] <Jordan_U> isaiahnixon: Looks like you have two fat32 partitions on that drive, maybe the second one is the EFI System Partition. Do you know why you have two fat32 partitions on that drive?
[22:40] <isaiahnixon> Maybe I had a bios and a uefi partition. I tried a lot of different configurations, trying to peice together forum posts and old internet guides.
[22:40] <vimart> blueingress: use: sudo upgrade
[22:41] <isaiahnixon> The EFI one is definitely mounted a /mnt I just checked the disk utility
[22:41] <blueingress> vimart, or maybe this is the problem of this mirror. How can I change to another mirror?
[22:41] <blueingress> vimart, I did "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --fix-missing"
[22:44] <Jordan_U> isaiahnixon: Did you use manual partitioning or automatic paritioning in the Ubuntu installer? That EFI System Partition is completely empty, which explains why it won't boot.
[22:45] <isaiahnixon> Jordan_U: I used manual partitioning.
[22:46] <isaiahnixon> Jordan_U: Let me move the information from one partition to the other and see if I can boot.
[22:47] <Jordan_U> isaiahnixon: Since you don't have any UEFI boot entry for Ubuntu I would be surprised if you were able to boot after moving the files from one partition to the other.
[22:48] <isaiahnixon> Jordan_U: Oh. What should I do?
[22:49] <vimart> Blueking: sudo apt update then sudo apt upgrade supposed it to upgrade of firefox if any in reps
[22:49] <vimart> blueingress: sudo apt update then sudo apt upgrade supposed it to upgrade of firefox if any in reps
[22:50] <Jordan_U> isaiahnixon: The easiest thing to, in my opinion, would be to just re-install wiping the existing partitions and use automatic partition (which will set things up properly). You will still need to do some manual steps afterward to make the drive bootable on other machines, but at least you'd be starting with something reasonable and working. We can also manually fix everything without re-installing but
[22:50] <Jordan_U> it will take more effort and probably more time too.
[22:52] <isaiahnixon> Jordan_U: That makes sense. Thanks so much for your help. I will have to do the reinstallation later tonight. Do you have any sort of guide for the post-install steps I need to take to make it bootable from other machines?
[22:53] <blueingress> vimart, I checked the server, there's some other version there. but it is not the version apt asking.... So I uninstalled/remove the firefox. the problem *solved* lol.
[22:58] <Jordan_U> isaiahnixon: The primary thing would be boot from the USB drive then from your installed Ubuntu system run "sudo cp /usr/lib/shim/shim.efi.signed /boot/efi/EFI/bootx64.efi". I think that would be sufficient, though I haven't tested it. Also, you would need to be aware that if you ever get an update for the grub-efi-amd64 package and you install that update while the drive is booted from a different
[22:58] <Jordan_U> computer, like your friend's for example, it will add an entry to their computer saying to boot from Ubuntu by default. That entry would probably just be ignored if the computer booted without the external drive plugged in, and their other entry would be used.
[23:03] <Jordan_U> isaiahnixon: /EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.efi (capitalization doesn't matter since this is a fat filesystem) is the path where UEFI machines look for a UEFI image to load if there is no boot entry for that drive pointing to a different specific path (like /EFI/Ubuntu/shim.efi which is the default path for Ubuntu).
[23:05] <isaiahn63> Jordan_U: Thanks again for your help. :)
[23:07] <Jordan_U> isaiahn63: You're welcome :)
[23:13] <PissWizard> I don't know where the problem is but my game won't use the proper native resolution of my monitor now that I have two Dell Ultrasharps of differing resolution. In windowed mode is seems fine, but in windowed{fullscreen} or fullscreen is looks like it's resizing the text and it looks really bad. Ubuntu's display settings show it in the proper resolution. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong.
[23:14] <PissWizard> for some reason whether I pick monitor 1 or monitor 2, it always does fullscreen only on the new monitor that's shorter, 1920x1080, the same resolution it thinks my old monitor is.
[23:20] <jeremysalwen> How do I build libc6:i386 from the eglibc source package on amd64?
[23:21] <jeremysalwen> dpkg-buildpackage -ai386 demands packages which conflict with the 64 bit gcc, etc.
[23:32] <beefjoe> bluetoothctl shows that I'm connected to my beats but there's no option to choose it in pulseaudio as output
[23:32] <beefjoe> what could be the problem ? it's not the first time I use this headset with my laptop
[23:32] <shazbotmcnasty> Is there any way to exactly transfer everything on a hard drive to another without bringing the file system? Rsync didn't grab everything. I DD'd, but it brought over a corrupt file system. I'm kind of at a loss. I've heard of people using tar, but I'm not sure how, or if it would be any better than rsync
[23:33] <shazbotmcnasty> i don't know /what/ rsync missed, but it missed over 170GB of data. maybe hardlinks or softlinks or something got messed up
[23:37] <mentalita> can someone explain to me how can I switch to different file manager without breaking anything
[23:43] <Jordan_U> shazbotmcnasty: It sounds like you're asking for how to copy more than can actually even be read from the original. Can you clarify what you want if not that?
[23:48] <Jordan_U> shazbotmcnasty: What is "bad" about the source drive?
[23:50] <mentalita> which stackexchange node should I ask on a q regarding software recommendation when it comes to ubuntu's file manager? is it software recommendation or askubuntu? also I'll ask here as well: I need a file manager that lets you configure custom actions pop up menu by adding other submenus and stuff
[23:59] <shazbotmcnasty> Jordan_U: well the original source drive file is failing. I've dd'd it onto a second drive, which now has a dirty file system. I've attempted repairing the file system, but it's still too dirty to work correctly.
[23:59] <shazbotmcnasty> The source drive has 582GB used, the DD'd destination drive has 582GB used - if I attempt to transfer the data from the DD'd drive to another drive with rsync, i get 404GB data.