[00:34] Anyone actually participating here? [00:35] SeanFromQueens: If you can boot into a terminal (text mode), you may be able to manually run an update. [00:36] how does one boot into terminal? [00:37] Can I assume doing anything (changing grub boot order & copying the profile directories from the Kubuntu partition) from the Windows session is moot and undoable? [00:37] wait, other idea. If you manage to get to the desktop, hit CTRL+ALT+F1, this will put you in a terminal (TTY1), you can then switch back to graphics mode with CTRL+ALT+F7 [00:38] First you will need a system that does not freeze, and updating the system MIGHT help, but i can;t guarantee anything [00:39] hopefully it doesn't freeze while in terminal mode, so that I can do the update and get back to GUI mode. [00:39] Once you are in terminal mode, enter "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" (without quotes of course), this will download and install all available updates. [00:41] the double && allows for multiple commands at a time, right? [00:42] Yup, that is correct [00:42] Fritigern: How about being able to do anything from Windows session? [00:42] sudo apt update will retrieve a list of updated packages, and sudo apt full-upgrade downloads and installs those packages [00:43] Is retrieving app profiles and reordering grub boot order, just a bridge too far? [00:43] I don;t know if anything *is* possible from Windows. It all depends on how you have installed Kubuntu, if that's on an image or a separate partition, and if you have a shared partition with one of the filesystems that Wondows supports. [00:44] Please ignore my typos. As funny as they may seem, they are not deliberate [00:44] separate partitions [00:45] Windows has no support for Ext4 file systems, which is what (K)Ubuntu uses by default. So you may have to get into Kubuntu first before you can mofe stuff around [00:45] But while I'm running Kubuntu (or when I could run it without it freezing up) I could access the Windows partition [00:46] Yes, Linux supports many different file systems, but Windows does not. Windows only cares about itself :-) [00:46] I guess Kubuntu can access FAT16 or FAT32, but it doesn't work the other way around [00:46] exactly [00:46] Linux can also access NTFS partitions [00:47] NTFS partitions, what's that? [00:48] NTFS is what Windows uses as a default since Windows Xp [00:48] Learn something new every day, thanks Fritigern [00:51] And I have just learned something as well. I figured that since it has been ages since I've used windows, that perhaps there have been new developments on their filesystem support. And wouldn;t you know it, I have just read the following: " Recently released ReFS file system was developed by Microsoft as a new generation file system for Windows 8 Servers." [00:52] This is where I've read this. http://www.ufsexplorer.com/und_fs.php#windows [00:58] Thanks I guess I've got to go and try this out [01:15] valorie: Here's a new paste showing me first doing apt full-upgrade, then apt install wine-stable which I decline, then a full-upgrade again. This to show that my system IS fully up to date, and still wine would cause a crapload of stuff to be uninstalled. http://paste.ubuntu.com/26151115/ [01:33] Fritigern: I'm back, that sudo apt update and full-upgrade commands (I entered the correct commands) gave a lot of 404 not found errors as the packages scrolled down the screen [01:36] then the system responded with advice to apt-get update and apt-get update --fix-missing [01:37] neither fixed the freezing system problem, I guess I'm going to have to scrap it and reinstall wiping out the settings and profiles that I had === ejat is now known as myfenris === myfenris is now known as ejat [01:58] SeanFromQueens: do you have some PPAs mixed in there or something? [01:59] unless your connections are dodgy, there should be no 404s [06:18] Kubuntu Live USB failed to load Plasma and GUI hung on the error window. I've switched to TTY2 to poweroff, but it's asking me for a password [06:19] Anybody know the login info for the Live CD/USB? [06:19] 17.10 [06:37] Live USB worked fine upon restart. Attempting install lol [06:37] I've never seen an OpenGL failure in a Live CD like that before. === jayhunold is now known as jhunold === Guest45420 is now known as AciD` [10:10] 'Morning folks === kubuntu is now known as Guest6856 [10:53] hola [11:06] Hallo, muss man etwas beachten, wenn man den GNOME-Software-Center anstelle von Discover haben möchte? === FFleder is now known as FFleder^afk [14:45] ajyotirmay was added by: ajyotirmay [17:26] Hi folks. I've a Thinkpad X1 Carbon 5th Gen running 17.10, with a Thunderbolt dock. The dock *was* working properly. However, for unknown reasons it's now not connecting any data. Just power. No ethernet, no video, no USB, nothing. I did not change any settings. Best I've found via Google is this: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/ThunderBolt-3-Dockingstation-and-Linux/td-p/3671481 - However, I already have TBolt security [19:31] selam [21:49] > Today’s daily ISO for Bionic Beaver 18.04 sees an experimental switch to the Breeze-Dark Plasma theme by default. [21:49] Very nice :-) === ss is now known as Guest71171 === Guest71171 is now known as tralfazer