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Guest7041Hello12:45
ibmr50e-sylwekhello13:37
ibmr50e-sylwekGuest7041,13:37
ibmr50e-sylwekhey kanye16:57
tsimonq2?16:57
ibmr50e-sylwekyo tsimonq2 mtpaint sucks16:59
ibmr50e-sylwekremove it from lubuntu16:59
tsimonq2...?16:59
ibmr50e-sylwek?17:00
ibmr50e-sylwekits not a good app bro17:00
ibmr50e-sylwekinintuitive17:00
ibmr50e-sylwekand lacks half of options17:00
ibmr50e-sylwekand this sylpheed redirects me to japanese website17:00
tsimonq2That's not my choice17:01
ibmr50e-sylwekye but you have something to say right in future releases17:01
tsimonq2Right, but LXDE version has been in maintenance mode for a while.17:01
tsimonq2We are looking to change very little.17:02
ibmr50e-sylwekso like 19.10 it could be dropped entirely?17:02
tsimonq2It all depends17:02
ibmr50e-sylweki tried lubuntu next but it didnt convince me17:02
ibmr50e-sylwekthere are more gtk apps17:03
wxlibmr50e-sylwek: what lightweight app should we replace it with?17:12
ibmr50e-sylwekmtpaint? with pinta17:12
wxl!info pinta17:12
ubottupinta (source: pinta): Simple drawing/painting program. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6-2 (artful), package size 674 kB, installed size 2795 kB17:13
wxl!info mtpaint17:13
ubottumtpaint (source: mtpaint): painting program to create pixel art and manipulate digital photos. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.40-3 (artful), package size 528 kB, installed size 1798 kB17:13
wxlit's about double the size17:13
wxlnot sure about memory usage. why don't you do some testing on memory/cpu usage and report back to the lubuntu-devel list?17:13
ibmr50e-sylwekye imma do that17:14
wxlewww mono depends boooooo17:14
wxli would like you to report how much space it takes up17:15
wxlinstalled size doesn't consider all dependencies17:15
wxlgiven the mono depends, i'm sure it will be massive17:15
tarunquit19:14
SauliI update to 17.10 online but I can't install new programs20:45
SauliI need a magic command to solve this20:46
ibmr50e-sylweksudo apt upgrade!!20:47
Saulibut I am not superuser in the version 17.10 ¡¡20:50
wxlhow do you know?20:51
SauliI enter in Gnome-software to install new software and says 'you are not superuser'20:52
wxland does `sudo apt upgrade` work?20:52
Sauliyes, works it but I can't install new software20:53
wxlso `sudo apt install pastebinit` for example does not work?20:53
Saulithank you I go to try ...20:54
craigbass76Is there anything hinkey about booting Lubuntu to text mode? I tried changing the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT setting from "quiet splash" to "text" in /etc/default/grub, but still landed at a Lubuntu login screen after an update-grub and init 620:54
tegintry to open gnome-software by using sudo with 'sudo gnome-software' and see if you can install software that way as a workaround20:54
wxlyeah well it's certainly a timesaver20:55
wxloops wrong channel20:55
Saulioh really works ¡¡¡ thank you very much my friends ¡¡¡20:56
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tegincraigbass76 try uncommenting the "GRUB_TERMINAL=console" line by removing the # before it.20:59
craigbass76tegin: I actually just added that line (there wasn't one) and rebooted. Still no love.20:59
craigbass76tegin: that was me leaving and coming -- forgot that I should be in irc on my laptop instead of the lubuntu box...21:00
craigbass76I'm on 17.10, if that makes a difference21:00
craigbass76And I could live with booting into GUI, but it's leaving the world of desktop and becoming just a headless web server21:01
craigbass76I don't think I've ever done this on a systemd box before, last one used init21:02
teginI'm afraid i don't know much then, all i see is that you need to have a combination of GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="text" and uncommenting the GRUB_TERMINAL line.21:03
teginApologies.21:03
craigbass76tegin: no worries. Probably something numb we're both missing. :)21:04
teginah, let me see...21:05
teginokay so below "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT" there should be another line "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX". Attempt to comment out the line that has DEFAULT in it and add the "text" part to the "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX" one, if that makes sense.21:05
craigbass76tegin: Funny you should mention that... I've just done it. RUbbing my hands together and waiting for a reboot.21:06
teginI'm not sure if it makes a difference but the information i'm looking at specifically says to put the "text" part where it says "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="text"" and the part with DEFAULT in it is just commented out.21:07
craigbass76Bah... I get all excited because I land at a text login, then after a few seconds get a mouse pointer. :(21:07
teginBummer.21:07
teginApologies again.21:07
craigbass76I'll see if anything occurs to me while I'm cooking supper...21:09
teginPlease take a look at the information provided here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/16371/how-do-i-disable-x-at-boot-time-so-that-the-system-boots-in-text-mode21:10
teginThey mention something about making some changes to systemd after messing with the grub file.21:10
teginSeems like this is a required step for ubuntu 15.04 and later so this might be the missing step, hopefully!21:12

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