[03:57] <mozammel> hi,... looking for help, kmail crash, and every time crash.. please help here is my terminal print. https://pastebin.com/FkCnEneK
[05:07] <mozammel> kmail cant open, Need help..
[05:08] <mozammel> it was just working, then suddnly crash, and since then its keep crashing when ever I try to open it.
 (Photo, 882x617) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/SIMUROVB/file_3793.jpg This is my System info. Krunner crashes when I type something in the krunner.
 (Photo, 927x105) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/BWkDNTFk/file_3795.jpg and if I try to to run it from konsole after the crash, the above error appears
 can anybody help me to sort out the problem
[05:20] <jaafar> Anyone send files to your system via Bluetooth from Android?
[05:21] <jaafar> It's been years but it never seems to work
[05:29] <DarinMiller> jaafar: bluetooth files transfer works fine here (kubuntu 17.10...)
[05:31] <jaafar> DarinMiller: thanks so much for responding... Can you walk me through it? Android displays a PIN, kubuntu does not and seems to think it is connected. Android shows failure message.
[05:31] <jaafar> I'm also 17.10
[05:32] <DarinMiller> Clickon the bt icon near the clock.
[05:32] <jaafar> okay
[05:32] <DarinMiller> Then click on settings icon in the upper right of the popup window...
[05:33] <jaafar> okay, I've seen that one a lot lately :)
[05:33] <jaafar> it's up
[05:33] <jaafar> My Android will appear here as "connected"
[05:33] <jaafar> though Android itself thinks it failed
[05:33] <DarinMiller> sry if I am repeating what you have tried many times... but just covering the bases...
[05:33] <jaafar> at the moment, not present.  What's next?
[05:34] <jaafar> no worries at all, makes sense
[05:35] <DarinMiller> On the Adapters tab, ensure the Powered box is checked and set visibility to Always Visible (for now).
[05:35] <DarinMiller> On the Advanced Setting tab, ensure Enable Bluetooth integration is checked.
[05:36] <jaafar> all as specified
[05:37] <DarinMiller> Ok, back on the Devices tab, click the plus [+] button.
[05:38]  * DarinMiller funny, I can see my neighbors soundbar.... I should play some holiday music for him....
[05:38] <jaafar> :)
[05:38] <jaafar> OK my Android device is visible
[05:39] <DarinMiller> on your phone, tap and hold the bt icon to bring up the bt connections
[05:39] <DarinMiller> On the PC screen, select your phone and click the next button.
[05:39] <jaafar> hm, I have the "bluetooth settings" open, if that's what you mean
[05:40] <jaafar> on Android
[05:40] <jaafar> And on my PC I have a "Connect" but no "Next"
[05:40] <DarinMiller> Does the phone show the spinning search option somewhere on the screen?
[05:41] <jaafar> spinning search option... no
[05:41] <jaafar> it does list my PC though
[05:41] <jaafar> This is the "bluetooth settings" menu, I guess, which does list visible bt devices
[05:41] <DarinMiller> Find the bt screen on the phone where you have the scan option for paring devices...
[05:41] <jaafar> I know if I click on my PC name it will attempt to connect
[05:41] <jaafar> which fails
[05:42] <jaafar> DarinMiller this screen does scan when I first bring it up
[05:42] <jaafar> Is it enough that it shows my PC name or should I look for some other menu?
[05:42] <DarinMiller> I only iniate connect from the PC side, and confirm on the phone side.
[05:42] <jaafar> because it's there
[05:42] <jaafar> DarinMiller: shall I try to initiate from the PC side now?
[05:42] <jaafar> by clicking "Connect"
[05:42] <DarinMiller> yes.
[05:43] <jaafar> OK that causes my Android to display a PIN
[05:43] <jaafar> shall I click "pair" on Android?
[05:43] <DarinMiller> yes, accept on the phone...
[05:43] <jaafar> Android displays "pairing"
[05:44] <DarinMiller> then confirm on the pc side.
[05:44] <jaafar> when you say "confirm" on the PC side, I'm not sure what you mean
[05:44] <jaafar> it seems to think it is connected
[05:44] <jaafar> no PIN was displayed on the PC
[05:45] <DarinMiller> On mine, I confirm the code on the phone, then the PC wizard want confimation that the pin was correct.
[05:45] <jaafar> OK now Android says "Couldn't pair with xxx because of an incorrect PIN or passkey"
[05:45] <jaafar> which is what usually happens
[05:45] <jaafar> I will try the process again without pausing
[05:45] <DarinMiller> Ensure to delete your device from the list and try again.
[05:46] <jaafar> OK will try that
[05:46] <DarinMiller> Yes, time windows are very small. Do not let your phone screen blank out or you may miss the window.
[05:46] <jaafar> OK I have removed Android from the list of known devices and will try again
[05:46] <DarinMiller> very good.
[05:47] <jaafar> Same problem
[05:47] <jaafar> Android displays PIN, I say connect, long pause, error message from Android
[05:48] <DarinMiller> OK, I have the following BT packages installed:
[05:48] <jaafar> maybe I need dpkg-reconfigure :)
[05:48] <DarinMiller> https://paste.ubuntu.com/26161809/
[05:49] <DarinMiller> check your list with this command: apt list *blue* | grep installed
[05:51] <jaafar> DarinMiller: I checked it by attempting to install all of those :) no changes made
[05:51] <jaafar> so I think they must be there
[05:52] <jaafar> actually I have a lot more bluez modules than you do
[05:52] <DarinMiller> Have you connected any other bt devices such as a speaker?
[05:52] <jaafar> I believe so
[05:53] <jaafar> btw this is a problem I've seen for years
[05:53] <DarinMiller> How many device connection options are listed on the PC?
[05:53] <jaafar> something like 20+
[05:53] <jaafar> including somebody's MacBook Pro
[05:53] <mozammel> https://pastebin.com/Ef1kjWxP Kmail keep crahing, any idea how to fix it ?
[05:53] <jaafar> and a bunch of MAC addresses
[05:53] <DarinMiller> I have had BT issues with my PC's over the years, but in the last year, most of the BT issues have been fixed..
[05:54] <jaafar> I haven't had any luck sending files from my Android devices... several generations of them, and many versions of kubuntu
[05:54] <DarinMiller> What verion of Android?
[05:54] <jaafar> I just assumed it doesn't work
[05:55] <jaafar> 7.1.2
[05:55] <jaafar> but this has been true for some time
[05:55] <jaafar> starting with a Samsung Infuse maybe 3, 4 years ago
[05:55] <DarinMiller> I am running 7.0 here.
[05:55] <DarinMiller> S7.
[05:55] <jaafar> what could explain Kubuntu failing to display the PIN dialog?
[05:56] <jaafar> that's what it's supposed to do, right?
[05:56] <DarinMiller> mozammel: Sry, I don't use kmail, so I can't help much.
[05:56] <DarinMiller> just a sec, I will delete mine again, and let you know..
[05:58] <DarinMiller> OK the pin popped up on the PC screen and on the phone at the same time.  I confirmed on the phone 1st, then on the PC and everything worked fine.
[05:58] <DarinMiller> Testing on 2nd PC....
[05:59] <DarinMiller> 2nd PC connected and paired just fine.  By chance is your phone paired to a set of headphones another device in the house?
[06:00] <jaafar> nope
[06:00] <DarinMiller> If so, disconnect that device and start the connection process again.  Current BT devices can only connect to one device at a time.
[06:01] <jaafar> I am going to test with a bluetooth speaker now
[06:02] <DarinMiller> run this command: sudo lshw > t.txt && kate t.txt &
[06:02] <DarinMiller> then in kate search for "blue"
[06:03] <DarinMiller> what brand of BT adapter is listed?
[06:03] <jaafar> DarinMiller: sorry should I try the speaker or no...
[06:03] <jaafar> you had asked previously
[06:04] <DarinMiller> yes, try the speaker
[06:04] <DarinMiller> also break up the previous command: sudo lshw > t.txt
[06:04] <DarinMiller> then: kate t.txt
[06:08] <DarinMiller> Does the speaker work with either PC or the phone?
[06:09] <jaafar> OK speaker works with PC
[06:09] <jaafar> sorry that took a bit of audio configuration
[06:09] <DarinMiller> np. :)
[06:09] <jaafar> it is paired and can output audio from Spotify
[06:09] <jaafar> I will switch to your other question now
[06:10] <DarinMiller> very good.
[06:11] <jaafar> DarinMiller: I assume this is the one that interests you: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26161874/
[06:13] <jaafar> Android can pair with the speaker too
[06:15] <DarinMiller> that adapter is exactly what I have in the 2nd PC I tested.
[06:16] <jaafar> I presume some software issue
[06:17] <jaafar> It's like some part of the negotiation is busted
[06:17] <DarinMiller> On the PC side, try clearning all BT devices from the list. on the phone side, clear the PC if its listed. Then try again.
[06:17] <jaafar> DarinMiller: what do you think about me removing and reinstalling some packages
[06:17] <jaafar> or some other kind of reconfiguration?
[06:17] <jaafar> or deleting files out of my ~/.config or ~/.kde
[06:17] <jaafar> etc.
[06:18] <jaafar> I have been upgrading for a long time instead of clean installing
[06:18] <DarinMiller> you could use the sudo apt purge <package>
[06:18] <DarinMiller> then reinstall.
[06:18] <DarinMiller> purge should clear any of the config files.
[06:20] <jaafar> Here's the weird thing: the PC side thinks it is connected
[06:20] <jaafar> despite never displaying the PIN or whatever
[06:20] <jaafar> it's the Android side that thinks it failed
[06:21] <jaafar> blowing away all packages matching *blue* :)
[06:21] <jaafar> A system restart is necessary
[06:22] <jaafar> wish me luck
[06:23] <DarinMiller> my desktop system has been upgraded several times (I think since 15.04 days, but not exactly sure).  My desktop has Asus BT card and until this last year, I was having similar problems as yours.
[06:23] <DarinMiller> But now, all my BT devices are working great.  I connect to speakers, receiver and phones
[06:24] <jaafar> oh wow, with the PIN issue?
[06:25] <jaafar> I mean, did Android pause and then fail with a PIN-related error?
[06:25] <DarinMiller> yes, seems the hookup would almost work then fail at the last step.
[06:26] <jaafar> Well, hopefully the master purge will work :)
[06:26] <jaafar> back in 5
[06:26] <DarinMiller> Ensure pulseaudio-module-bluetooth is re-installed as my intel system would not connect to speakers without it (even on 17.10)
[06:27] <DarinMiller> cu in 5
[06:28] <DarinMiller> jaafar: your back! whew...!
[06:29] <DarinMiller> you're^
[06:31] <jaafar> BOOYAH
[06:31] <jaafar> DarinMiller: yeah the grand purge did it
[06:32] <jaafar> All working as you described now
[06:32] <DarinMiller> good to know!
[06:32] <jaafar> Perhaps the "Next" vs "Connect" should have been a sign
[06:32] <jaafar> Now I have "Next" where before I had "Connect"
[06:33] <DarinMiller> yes, I was confused by the "connect" button as mine said next.
[06:33] <DarinMiller> Did you send a file?  It should work now.
[06:33] <jaafar> DarinMiller: very much appreciate your help
[06:33] <jaafar> yep, it worked :)
[06:34] <DarinMiller> awesome.  You actually solved the problem.  I was just the rubber ducky... :)
[06:34] <jaafar> that has been an irritant for so long
[06:34] <jaafar> DarinMiller: but I would not have known that it "should" work without your information
[06:34] <jaafar> I had assumed it was just broken and nobody had time to fix it
[06:34] <jaafar> Or was aware, etc.
[06:35] <jaafar> OK one more for you but very trivial!
[06:35] <DarinMiller> glad I could help.
[06:35] <jaafar> I have to select "reboot" (or powerdown, etc.) twice every time
[06:35] <DarinMiller> Ok, its getting late...
[06:35] <jaafar> do you observe that?
[06:35] <jaafar> there is a fine workaround, I am just curious
[06:36] <jaafar> K menu, Leave, Reboot
[06:36] <jaafar> nothing happens
[06:36] <jaafar> K menu, Leave, Reboot
[06:36] <jaafar> it reboots
[06:36] <DarinMiller> oh, I am aware of the issue, but I do not know the fix.  I suspect it's possibly a package like your bluetooth, but I have not clue.
[06:36] <jaafar> haha so it is known :)
[06:37] <jaafar> thanks DarinMiller enjoy your well-deserved rest and thanks for helping out in the channel
[06:37] <DarinMiller> in sys setting, do you have the restart prompt enabled?  (checking sys settting location, just a sec...)
[06:38] <jaafar> oh man, listen, don't stay up on my account I was just wondering about that
[06:39] <DarinMiller> it just take a sec... sys setting -> Startup and Shutdown
[06:39] <DarinMiller> Desktop session tab, turn off Confirm logout and see if that fixed the issue.
[06:40] <jaafar> OK
[06:40] <jaafar> that will cause me to vanish
[06:40] <jaafar> so I will try it later :)
[06:40] <DarinMiller> yes.
[06:40] <jaafar> appreciate the tip
[06:40] <DarinMiller> ok, gn
[06:40] <jaafar> gn to you too
[06:45] <hateball> jaafar: do you have Steam running?
[06:45] <hateball> As that will halt shutdowns
[06:45] <hateball> There are other apps as well
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[06:57] <jaafar> hateball: nope.  Anyway it does work, the second time...
[06:57]  * jaafar should install Steam
[07:13] <lordievader> Good morning
[10:43] <user|63453> Hi! ....
[10:43] <user|63453> What requirements do I need to have to install the latest version of kubuntu?
[10:43] <user|63453> please help me!
[11:29] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[16:51] <[Relic]> Thinking of installing 17.04(usb already made) and then dist upgrading to 17.10.  Any forseeable problems with that or should I make a new 17.10 and just install that?
[17:00] <bings[m]> The latter, every time. Regardless of what you're doing, less chance of problems just to install what version you want.
[19:52]  * ronnoc raises hand - count me in for the Breeze Dark theme by default :)
[19:52] <acheronuk> ronnoc: thanks
[19:54] <ronnoc> acheronuk: Anytime. It's classy and kool.
[21:16] <ronnoc> BTW - anyone else use Akregator and have issues on start of a corrupted feed file that was automatically restored from backup?
[21:35] <Joel_> hi
[22:32] <MrPechi> oi