[01:04] <mate|22788> Hi quick question - Does anyone know how good windowed 3D performance in mate on 17.10 and 18.04 is compared to kwin which seems to be the fastest WM
[01:11] <basilarchia> what kind of performance issues? It seems to be working excellently for me
[01:11] <basilarchia> try something like tuxracer to see if 3D is working correctly
[01:13] <ali1234> it depends a lot on which video card/driver you use
[01:13] <ali1234> in my experience kwin is terrible with nvidia and just about anything else works better
[01:27] <mate|22788> kde is super fast but the bugs are a pain, if mate's perf is better and does not mess up qt apps ill switch, long ago mate was kinda messy with it but if it's fine now...
[01:30] <ali1234> qt apps run better under gtk apps than gtk apps do under kde
[01:30] <ali1234> qt apps run better under gtk desktops than gtk apps do under kde*
[01:33] <mate|22788> is it possible to make ZFS my home partition? I know it's possible with XFS and btrfs
[07:15] <mate26> ciao ragazzi qualcuno parla italiano, ho bisogno di una mano a installare aceplayer mi potreste aiutare?
[07:17] <alkisg> !it
[07:18] <mate26> thanks you
[09:41] <TaZeR> i just saw Martin Wimpress posted here: https://flexion.org/posts/2013-01-microsoft-office-on-arch-linux-and-ubuntu/
[09:42] <TaZeR> is this the same as our Martin?
[09:56] <alkisg> Yes that's his blog
[09:57] <TaZeR> cool i am following the guide to install office 2010
[09:58] <alkisg> AFAIK the latest wine support office 2016 out of the box, doesn't it?
[09:59] <TaZeR> theres a regression bug with the latest: https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44036
[10:00] <TaZeR> im having to install an older version right now, i havnt got it working yet
[10:00] <alkisg> That's 2010, what I heard was about 2016
[10:00] <TaZeR> hmm im not sure, ill have to look into it
[10:02] <alkisg> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=CrossOver-17.0-Released
[10:03] <alkisg> The main problem is getting office installed for all users, instead of per-user
[10:04] <alkisg> Having to install it e.g. 1000 times gets tiresome soon :)
[10:04] <TaZeR> not a big deal for me, i hope ican get it working this woudl be very nice
[10:04] <TaZeR> i hope crossover isnt that paid one
[10:05] <alkisg> Yes it is, it's how many wine devs get to actually make money and continue its development
[10:05] <alkisg> So the changes end up in wine eventually
[10:07] <TaZeR> is it possible to run it without the crossover?
[10:08] <TaZeR> no way im paying for it
[10:08] <alkisg> You don't pay for ms office? How?!
[10:08] <TaZeR> for the crossover program i mean
[10:09] <alkisg> Ah, you only pay for proprietary programs, not open source ones, got it :D
[10:09] <alkisg> MS wins again :D
[10:09] <alkisg> OK seriously, wine should run it too, but a very new version of it
[10:09] <alkisg> Older wine versions => older office versions
[13:09] <bharat> hello
[16:10] <Kital_Dangerous> Hey I'm having issues with getting nvidia drivers to work on an HP Zbook G3 with Ubuntu Mate does anyone have any solutions I could try.
[16:11] <diogenes_> how you installed?
[16:12] <Kital_Dangerous> well i've tried downloading from nvidia's website ive tried apt install nvidia-current ive done the additional drivers from the menus in mate
[16:13] <diogenes_> and what result did you get/.
[16:13] <Kital_Dangerous> and ive done all from a fresh mate install
[16:13] <Kital_Dangerous> im having issues with open gl
[16:14] <diogenes_> did it actually install or not?
[16:14] <Kital_Dangerous> kind of...
[16:14] <Kital_Dangerous> i get the nvidia x server settings application but there are no options inside
[16:18] <diogenes_> Kital_Dangerous, run: lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A3 | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:18] <diogenes_> share the link here
[16:19] <Kital_Dangerous> http://termbin.com/psd6
[16:20] <diogenes_> Kital_Dangerous, it means that you've got optimus nvidia
[16:22] <Kital_Dangerous> yeah ive tried turning hybrid graphics off in the bios to force it to use the Nvidia card but still had issues
[16:24] <diogenes_> Kital_Dangerous, run: glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer" | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:24] <diogenes_> link here
[16:25] <Kital_Dangerous> http://termbin.com/kija
[16:26] <Kital_Dangerous> so it looks like its using the intigrated right now which is probably because i turned hybrid graphics back on in the bios to see if that would solve the issue yesterday
[16:27] <diogenes_> yeah, from what I see,  you can use your nvidia only with bumblebee
[16:27] <Kital_Dangerous> ok ill try grabbing bumblebee realy quick then
[16:27] <diogenes_> ok
[16:27] <diogenes_> but it needs a lot of configuration and tweaking around
[16:27] <Kital_Dangerous> yeah thats ok
[16:28] <Kital_Dangerous> ill be poking around in it for awhile im sure
[16:28] <diogenes_> ok
[16:30] <Kital_Dangerous> thanks diogenes
[16:31] <diogenes_> yw
[16:41] <Kital_Dangerous> diogenes_ any reason to use bumblebee over nvidia-prime that you know of
[16:42] <Kital_Dangerous> other than it seems like prime is not so much on the fly as bumblebee
[16:42] <diogenes_> Kital_Dangerous, power saving, better rendering of simple graphic tasks, many features that are available only with integrated intel graphic
[16:43] <diogenes_> that's also the logic behind optimus technology
[16:43] <Kital_Dangerous> thats fair lol
[16:44] <diogenes_> Kital_Dangerous, using prime, you don't get any advantages from optimus, just money in vain
[16:47] <Kital_Dangerous> ok ill be back later
[16:47] <diogenes_> ok
[18:56] <alfialf_> hallo bin neu hier ist jemand da
[18:59] <alfialf__> ich brauche hilfe ist jemand hier
[19:37] <qwererfrrthyty> U-Mate Pi2 16.04/17.10 PC ->router->Nas Openmediavault https://www.dropbox.com/s/n5srkofbw1j4jtq/NAS.zip?dl=0 Who knows what to do to be able to read NFS from a NAS connected to the U-Mate. Using OPV-SSH access have.
[19:49] <qwererfrrthyty> For many years there have been i see this in Linux (Ubuntu's versions) with version 15 and 17 or problems only with Openmediavault (Debian). I using only Openmediavault NAS?
[19:49] <qwererfrrthyty> 15 - 17
[19:50] <qwererfrrthyty> windows ok
[19:53] <qwererfrrthyty> For many years there have been i see this in Linux (Ubuntu's versions) with version 15 and 17 or problems only with Openmediavault (Debian)? I using only Openmediavault NAS.
[23:04] <PlainDave> I'm wondering if there's anything I can do about this problem - Ubuntu-MATE 16.04 locks up every day or two. I try Ctrl+Alt+Del, Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, and Ctrl+Alt+Esc, but nothing works to reboot it. I have to hold down my power button for 5 secs to reboot. Any help would be appreciated.
[23:05] <PlainDave> Oh, I have 4GB RAM and Core i3 cpu.
[23:14] <qwererfrrthyty> Computer freezes? And you have to do a reset?
[23:16] <PlainDave> qwererfrrthyty, yeah
[23:26] <qwererfrrthyty> AMD APU 4gb RAM real PC and virtual machine 2gb U-mate 17.10. I have it and i think this when no free memory and pc freezes, but i not sure on 100%. I see this on real PC and Virtual Machine. Look this video. https://www.dropbox.com/s/clhe4v15m8pq2f9/Untitled%202017-12-02%2005-51-29_Xv
[23:28] <Nathan> have you tested it out on any other distro?
[23:28] <Nathan> or does this only happen on ubuntu mate?
[23:28] <qwererfrrthyty> I wrote about it here + video file
[23:29] <qwererfrrthyty> video because en is not my language to translate is inconvenient
[23:30] <qwererfrrthyty> have you tested it out on any other distro? I or <PlainDave>
[23:30] <Nathan> either
[23:31] <basilarchia> PlainDave, do you get video corruption or funny looking text at all when you boot? Do you have AMD video?
[23:31] <basilarchia> I had a box locking up a similar way and upgraded the video and it has been more stable for the last week. (that could just be coincidence of course)
[23:32] <qwererfrrthyty> I see this on Virtual machine host Windows Guest Lubuntu 17.10 once or 2
[23:32] <Nathan> I've got an old dell running ubuntu mate that hasn't been shutdown for weeks now
[23:33] <basilarchia> woops, I meant to say I upgraded the kernel, not the video.
[23:41] <qwererfrrthyty> i know on 100% on vm guest when freezes vm used 100% HDD and big read until I close (turn off the virtual machine). I'm not sure but it looks that way and on a real PC c U. M. Since I hear this moment of intense sound of the HDD.
[23:43] <qwererfrrthyty> i know on 100% on vm guest when freezes, vm use 100% HDD and big read until I close (turn off the virtual machine). I'm not sure but it looks that way and on a real PC c U. M. Since I hear this moment of intense sound of the HDD.
[23:45] <qwererfrrthyty> i use zram
[23:45] <qwererfrrthyty> Everywhere zram
[23:48] <qwererfrrthyty> btrfs
[23:52] <qwererfrrthyty> most of the memory is used the browser
[23:52] <qwererfrrthyty> firefox
[23:56] <qwererfrrthyty> if the video quality is bad in the dropbox player download the file and view on PC,video quality is good.