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tyhickshello16:30
tyhicks#startmeeting16:30
meetingologyMeeting started Mon Dec 11 16:30:38 2017 UTC.  The chair is tyhicks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.16:30
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mdeslaur\o16:30
tyhicksThe meeting agenda can be found at:16:31
tyhicks[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting16:31
tyhicks[TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report16:31
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tyhicksjdstrand: you're up16:31
jdstrandhi16:31
jdstrandLast week I was able to get through all the snapd 2.30 work (yay). This week I plan to focus on:16:32
jdstrand- being responsive to snapd PR reviews (eg, wayland slot, layouts, xdg-settings/userd, etc)16:32
jdstrand- rewriting the snappy-app-dev udev script16:32
jdstrand- finishing the planned review-tools updates for December16:32
jdstrand- pickup brand store snap declarations as have times16:32
jdstrand- pickup tun/tap and kmod spread test issues16:32
jdstrandthat's it from me. mdeslaur, you're up16:32
mdeslaurI'm on triage this week16:32
mdeslaurand I have an openssl update coming out16:32
mdeslaurI have a couple more things to test and release16:32
mdeslaurthat's about it, sbeattie, you're up16:32
sbeattieI'm in the happy place this week, and I've got a short week (friday off)16:33
sbeattieI'm focusing on snap cve triage16:33
sbeattieI have some apparmor tasks to do, plus prep for the apparmor upstream meeting16:33
sbeattieand the usual kernel triage bits16:34
sbeattiethat's it for me. tyhicks?16:34
tyhicksI'm in the happy place16:35
tyhicksI'm working on some embargoed issues16:35
tyhicksI'll be doing a squashfs-tools SRU for preserving symlink mtimes16:35
tyhickscontinue to fix any resquash issues that are found16:36
tyhicksthat's it for me right now16:36
tyhicksjjohansen: you're up16:36
tyhicksah, he's not in right now16:38
tyhickssarnold: you're up16:38
sarnoldi'm on community this week16:39
sarnoldworking on the libteam mir16:39
sarnoldthe buildlog and cppcheck output look different enough from last time around that I'm hopeful it'll go quickly :)16:39
sarnoldand uh figuring out if this is going to be a short week or not. maybe it's time to stop procrastinating that :)16:40
sarnoldthat's it for me, chrisccoulson?16:40
chrisccoulsonshort week for me this week - I finish for christmas today16:40
chrisccoulsonI plan to have chromium published before I finish16:41
mdeslaursarnold: if you wait until the new year, your accumulated vacation days will go away and the problem will solve itself16:41
chrisccoulsonThat's me done :)16:41
sarnoldchrisccoulson: _today_? :) nice16:41
ratliffenjoy your time off, chrisccoulson!16:41
ratliffI'm in the happy place this week.16:41
chrisccoulsonthanks :)16:41
sarnoldmdeslaur: wow :) that's next-level procrastination :D16:41
mdeslaurhehehe16:42
ratliffI hope to finish my internal project and then work on importing data into InfluxDB for kpis.16:42
ratliffI'm going to be adding the holiday rotation to the team calendar today, so if there are any changes to the proposal, please let me know.16:42
ratliffon to you, leosilva16:43
leosilvaI'm bug triage this week.16:43
leosilvaI have some research to do about libxml2 issue (it's trick and I'm thinking in publish the CVE I have before find and fix it)16:43
leosilvaAlso will do some CVE triage/research to push some pkgs on my stack.16:44
leosilvathat's it for me.16:44
leosilvatyhicks: it's back to you!16:44
* tyhicks catches up16:44
tyhicksthanks!16:45
tyhicks[TOPIC] Highlighted packages16:45
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tyhicksThe Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so.16:45
tyhicksSee https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved.16:45
tyhickshttps://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/tre.html16:45
tyhickshttps://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/w3af.html16:45
tyhickshttps://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/k4dirstat.html16:45
tyhickshttps://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/ccid.html16:45
tyhickshttps://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/elixir.html16:45
tyhicksDoes anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?16:45
tyhicks[TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions16:45
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tyhicksjdstrand, mdeslaur, sbeattie, jjohansen, sarnold, ChrisCoulson, ratliff, leosilva: Thanks!16:48
tyhicks#endmeeting16:48
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meetingologyMeeting ended Mon Dec 11 16:48:41 2017 UTC.16:48
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-12-11-16.30.moin.txt16:48
jdstrandtyhicks: thanks!16:48
ratliffthanks, tyhicks!16:48
sarnoldthanks tyhicks!16:48
sbeattietyhicks: thanks!16:49
leosilvaThanks tyhicks!16:51
gsilvapthey all17:01
kyrofaHey there gsilvapt17:01
Letozaf_o/17:01
gsilvaptIs everybody from the council around?17:01
nhaineso/17:02
kyrofaKen isn't here yet, it seems17:02
gsilvaptNeither is carla? I don't know her nickname17:02
Letozaf_I'm carla :-P17:02
gsilvaptAh, great :P17:02
kyrofaHaha17:03
kyrofaHas everyone read through the reverification applications?17:03
gsilvaptNot all but some. kyrofa before that, we should start the meeting officially17:03
kyrofagsilvapt, I'm just saying, while waiting for Ken, might be good to do17:04
nhainesI am reviewing the Swiss application.17:04
gsilvaptkyrofa, makes sense17:04
* Letozaf_ is reading the reverification applications17:05
tcarrondoI'm here, but commuting17:05
Letozaf_o/17:06
tcarrondoping me if you need something from me17:06
kyrofanhaines, the draft one? :)17:07
nhaineskyrofa: as it turns out, yes.  :)17:07
gsilvaptCan we start at 17:10 max if Karl does not show up?17:08
gsilvaptKen. not Karl17:08
nhainesYou forgot Sujeevan! >:o17:08
gsilvaptah daiumn. I thought we were already 4 here :)17:09
gsilvaptAnd I also thought the council had 5 members instead of the actual 617:09
nhainesOkay, I think we should get started.17:12
gsilvaptI'd appreciate that but if you want to wait until the 15'17:12
nhainesWe could.  Ken might be in by then.17:13
kenvandinesorry... i must have had the timezone wrong on my calendar17:14
wxlmight be a DST issue17:14
kyrofaHey kenvandine, welcome! No problem :)17:14
nhainesThat's okay, I still thought it was Tuesday yesterday.  :)17:14
kyrofanhaines, yikes, you had a bad weekend17:15
wxlor a good one? XD17:15
nhaineskyrofa: not *that* bad.  I forgot the meeting day was changed.  :)17:15
kenvandinewait... the meeting is 2000 UTC right?17:15
gsilvaptShall we start then?17:15
kyrofaHahahaha, totally read that wrong17:15
kenvandineThe next meeting is scheduled for Monday, 11th December 2017 20:00 UTC and will be held in #ubuntu-meeting on irc.freenode.net.17:16
kenvandineon the wiki17:16
nhainesI'd be happy for another nap.  :D17:17
kenvandineit's not 2000 UTC yet :)17:18
wxloh my XD17:18
kenvandineand that's the time we've advertised on the agenda :)17:18
gsilvaptwait, wut17:19
opedromekie, mitras?17:19
kyrofaWait... how on earth did I have an alarm set for this time, then?17:19
opedroall güd?17:19
opedro:D17:19
wxlah ha! it's gsilvapt who's had a bad ("good") weekend apparently XD17:19
kyrofaIt's not even close17:19
kenvandine:)17:19
opedrosalutations from the iberian peninsula, humanoids17:19
gsilvaptOh lord17:19
gsilvapthttps://screenshots.firefox.com/AiMWiTnsB6F9mPqO/www.timeanddate.com17:19
nhainesBecause the worldtime link is wrong.  :)17:19
gsilvaptWhy does this says the event is already gone?17:19
gsilvaptĨt's not my fault then :(17:20
kyrofaUgh, that explains things17:20
nhainesgsilvapt: because the wiki says 20:00 but the link asks for 17:00.  :)17:20
tcarrondoso? 20UTC?17:20
kenvandineoh... i never looked at the link17:20
kenvandinejust added it to my calendar as 20:0017:20
kenvandinewe have nearly 3 hours until the meeting starts17:20
nhainesI think we had probably better wait in case people were planning on attending.17:21
opedro@nhaines i know i was17:21
kenvandinewe need to wait until 2000, yes17:21
nhainesopedro: glad you're here at least.  :)17:21
kyrofaIndeed17:22
opedroahah. and im at work17:22
wxli mean, hey, /kd17:22
opedroi better beat it then, uh?17:22
wxlto be clear i'm not joking or ribbing, but being serious17:22
tiagopolicarpoptHI guys an ladeis.17:22
Letozaf_o/17:22
opedro@tiagopolicarpopt olá, mister17:22
nhainesOkay, I've updated the agenda.17:23
tiagopolicarpopti am where to help my loco team to valtion team loco17:23
kenvandinenhaines, thx17:23
wxlhey i figured it out! if you roundup(17) in python, you get 20!17:23
kenvandinelol17:23
wxlalso that penultimate line from me is a wrong chnanel message, my classic move17:24
opedroso what time is it, anyways?17:24
nhainesIt is in 2.5 hours from now.  :)17:24
wxlMon Dec 11 17:24:48 UTC 201717:24
tiagopolicarpoptthe team loco Portugal, is very organize and activite.17:24
wxlirssi: /exec -out date -u17:24
opedro@nhaines meh! :\17:25
opedrodinner time, sis17:25
wxli have a whole slew of helpful time aliases i should probably publish17:25
gsilvaptOH god17:25
opedrogotta eat my daily dose of kangaroo meat17:25
gsilvaptI feel so bbad :(17:25
wxlwell actually17:25
tiagopolicarpoptplease check the wiki loco team portugal17:25
wxlhow many re-verifications are there?17:25
opedro@gsilvapt fuxx it. it happens,. no beat yourself down17:25
opedrono worries, mate17:25
nhaineswxl: 6 standing for this agenda.17:26
wxlif we got people here maybe we could do them now. thoughts?17:26
nhainesThe applications are all pretty comprehensive.  We can do them in abstencia.17:27
opedroor we can all relax and have a smoke and sip some cognac17:27
nhainesI like his style.  :)17:28
opedrosay @nhaines, you from the tuga?17:28
opedroxD17:28
nhainesopedro: likely not, as I have no idea what that means.  :D17:29
opedrosay okay, then17:29
nhainesOkay!17:30
opedroso shall we begin, gents and misses17:30
nhainesWe really do need to wait--we have LCC members who aren't here, probably because they had the correct time.  :)17:30
tiagopolicarpopti have stop in gas station too connect to where17:30
nhainesOn the bright side, we probably won't have this problem in the future!17:30
kenvandine:)17:30
nhainesI think I'm going to go test whether or not I was kidding about that nap.... >_>17:32
tiagopolicarpopti using mobile data, if a lose my connection maybe my packet is off on mobile data17:32
nhainestiagopolicarpopt: have a safe commute and join us in 2.5 hours.  :)17:32
opedronap she says. go get it. »_»17:33
opedrocheck all laterz17:33
tiagopolicarpoptOk, nhaines17:34
lapisdecorI think I didn't understood well, is the meeting taking place now or in 2.5 hours?17:35
nhaineslapisdecor: in 2.5 hours.17:36
lapisdecorI have my syster birtday dinner in 2.5 hours, less or more, I'll read the logs later.17:38
nhaineslapisdecor: please have a happy party for her birthday.  :)17:38
lapisdecornhaines, thank you!17:38
opedroi was here, mr. printscreen man.17:45
tiagopolicarpoptsee you to later, tks17:45
gsilvaptWell, I'm guessing we are meeting in 2 hours then, right?17:48
nhainesYes.17:49
gsilvaptSorry for the confusion guys. I really thought we were starting 45 minutes ago. Oh well, time to go home17:49
Letozaf_see you later guys... :)17:53
DiogoCHi all17:59
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MajBHello Ubuntu-ites.  Swords stacked as per instructions.19:04
Guest23768hi19:18
Naudy_Hello / Hola19:26
elmudoHi19:31
x3mboyHi19:32
x3mboyt - 12 minutes?19:48
elmudometal8 minutes19:52
kyrofaHey everyone!19:57
gsilvaptnhaines, kyrofa, Letozaf_ kenvandine, we up this time?19:57
Letozaf_o/19:57
gsilvaptUgh, the timing :P19:57
kenvandine\o19:57
kyrofanhaines is probably still napping20:01
* kenvandine grabs the bull horn20:01
kyrofasvij mentioned that he'd be a bit late20:01
wxli thought i'd hang about since this is your first meeting together, but since nhaines is about, you probably don't need anything else (he's an old timer). that said, back to ignoring this channel unless pinged :)20:02
gsilvaptI'll try and ask in telegram20:02
kyrofaThanks wxl :)20:03
gsilvaptthank you, wxl20:03
kenvandinewho wants to drive the bot for the meeting?20:03
wxlhappy to help folks. thanks for taking on this big mass of re-verifications as your first task! i think this is something we should celebrate on the hub :)20:03
kenvandineindeed20:03
gsilvaptI can do that although I need to search for the commands. I don't remember20:04
wxlhm20:04
wxllook at the topic20:04
kenvandinegsilvapt, i think i know them20:05
wxlok not paying attention anymore ;)20:05
kenvandine startmeeting, topic, endmeeting :)20:05
gsilvaptyes20:05
kenvandinegsilvapt, i'll do it this time :)20:05
gsilvaptand vote etc20:05
gsilvaptOk, sure, take the lead!20:05
gsilvaptsvij said he needs 2 minutes. Lets wait for him :-)20:05
svijhowdy20:07
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kenvandine#startmeeting LoCoCouncil 2017-12-1120:07
meetingologyMeeting started Mon Dec 11 20:07:51 2017 UTC.  The chair is kenvandine. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.20:07
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick20:07
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kenvandinecouncil members please wave to record attendance20:08
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kenvandinejust missing nhaines20:09
gsilvaptFYI, I'm creating the minute page for this meeting. I'll take a previous sample and modify as we need and require.20:09
kenvandinegsilvapt, thx20:09
kenvandineanyone know what we need for a quorum?20:10
kenvandinei'd imagine we have enough20:10
svijI guess so20:10
svijmore than 50% :)20:10
* nhaines waves20:11
kenvandineyay!20:11
kenvandine100% attendance!20:11
kenvandineok... shall we move on to the re-verifications?20:11
gsilvaptYes20:11
kenvandine#topic AZLOCOTeam20:11
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kenvandinehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/Re-validationApplication201720:11
kenvandineanyone here to represent AZLOCOTeam?20:12
pavlosI'm here20:12
MajBI am here from the AZLOCO Team20:12
kenvandinethe re-verification wiki page looks very thorough and kudos for being so active!20:13
MajBThank you20:13
nhainesIt looks like you've continued your great work this year.20:13
kenvandinedoes anyone have questions for AZLOCO?20:14
svijno questions from me, looks good :)20:15
kyrofaIndeed, no question here either20:15
nhainesI think things are pretty straightforward.  No questions from me.20:15
Letozaf_ok for me too20:15
kenvandinei guess we should vote20:16
gsilvaptYeap. I like their page and although the roadmap is ambitious, they have some members in their group so they are up for it20:16
kenvandine#vote AZLOCOTeam re-verification20:16
meetingologyPlease vote on: AZLOCOTeam re-verification20:16
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)20:16
svij+120:16
meetingology+1 received from svij20:16
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nhaines+1 Good job, AZ team  :)20:16
meetingology+1 Good job, AZ team  :) received from nhaines20:16
kenvandine#endvote20:17
meetingologyVoting ended on: AZLOCOTeam re-verification20:17
meetingologyVotes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:020:17
meetingologyMotion carried20:17
svijcongrats :)20:17
pavlosthank you all20:17
kenvandinethanks for the great work!20:17
MajBThank you LoCo Council20:17
kyrofapavlos, MajB thank you for all your good work, and for attending today20:18
nhainesThank you for your service to the Ubuntu community.  :)20:18
kenvandine#topic MyanmarTeam20:18
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kenvandineanyone here to represent MyanmarTeam?20:18
kenvandinehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MyanmarTeam/VerificationApplication201720:19
kyrofaI'm afraid this loco looks relatively inactive to me20:20
nhainesIt does seem like outward events have dropped off sharply since the last two years.20:21
kyrofaMost recent event listed in the verification app is 2016, and most recent post on the website seems to be for 16.1020:21
kenvandineyeah, that concerned me as well20:21
gsilvaptI was reading their page a few hours ago and it feels they are inactive since 2016. At least according to the provided information. I'd suggest they work up their page and/or show some activity and apply again in some time20:21
kyrofaFlickr shows a 17.10 release party, though20:21
kyrofaI agre with gsilvapt20:21
kyrofaLooks like they have a community, but it needs more leadership20:21
gsilvapts/provided information/information provided20:22
nhainesI'm sure there is leadership, but I'd like to see more information about their recent activities and their roadmap for thefuture.  I suspect that the application is simply incomplete.20:22
kenvandineso do we vote?  or ask them to get added to the agenda when someone can be here?20:22
nhainesI'd like to extend their verification provisionally and request more information from them for the next meeting.20:23
gsilvapt+1 with nhaines20:23
kenvandine+120:23
kyrofa+1 from me as well20:23
kenvandineshould we do a vote to extend 2 months?20:23
Letozaf_+120:23
gsilvaptlets vote on that, kenvandine20:23
nhaines+120:23
kyrofaDon't we meet once a month?20:23
kenvandineyeah, but thought with the holidy20:24
gsilvaptYes, but I think the idea is to give a few months so they have time to prepare their stuff20:24
kenvandinemight be good to give them a little more time20:24
nhainesYeah, but it's all kinds of crazy holidays right now.20:24
gsilvaptand there's that too20:24
kenvandinewe are behind20:24
kyrofaFair enough20:24
kenvandine#vote MyanmarTeam Two month extension20:24
meetingologyPlease vote on: MyanmarTeam Two month extension20:24
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)20:24
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nhaines+1 Please improve the application and get back to us.  :)20:25
meetingology+1 Please improve the application and get back to us.  :) received from nhaines20:25
kenvandine#endvote20:25
meetingologyVoting ended on: MyanmarTeam Two month extension20:25
meetingologyVotes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:020:25
meetingologyMotion carried20:25
kenvandine#topic VenezuelaTeam20:25
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kenvandinehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/VenezuelaTeam/Re-validationApplication201720:25
kenvandineanyone here to represent VenezuelaTeam?20:26
elmudometali am VenezuelaTeam20:26
NaudyI'm here20:26
x3mboyI'm here too20:27
kenvandinehello!20:27
gsilvapthi guys :-) I had a look to your application and I honestly think it is a similar case to Arizona. Well structure, nothing to point out. Very ambitious Roadmap, seems ok with your member's numbers20:28
gsilvapts/structure/structured20:28
svijI agree :)20:28
nhainesIt looks like you have a lot of momentum built up.20:28
kyrofaYeah, easy review indeed20:29
tiagopolicarpoptHi again20:29
kenvandineindeed20:29
nhainesI noticed that there were less events for 2017 than 2016.  But it's still extremely impressive.  Is there anything that lead to this that you're concerned about?20:29
gsilvaptThe only question I have is: Why didn't you guys renew your membership?20:29
kyrofanhaines, there were like 100 in 2016. They probably got burnt out :D20:30
svijhehe20:30
gsilvapthe he20:31
kenvandinelets hope not :)20:31
kenvandineor... hope they feel refreshed20:31
tcarrondohi! still on time?20:32
NaudyProblems with internet in Venezuela which have been many failures20:32
nhaineskyrofa: They have nothing to be ashamed about for a strong 2017.  I just want to get a feeling for how things are going.20:32
nhainesNaudy: that would be a good reason!20:32
kenvandineagreed20:32
Letozaf_sorry had a prolbem20:33
kenvandineshall we vote?20:33
svijyup20:33
kenvandine#vote VenezuelaTeam20:33
meetingologyPlease vote on: VenezuelaTeam20:33
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)20:33
kenvandine#voters kenvandine svij gsilvapt kyrofa Letozaf_ nhaines20:33
meetingologyCurrent voters: Letozaf_ gsilvapt kenvandine kyrofa nhaines svij20:33
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tiagopolicarpoptI'm part of the loco team20:33
kenvandine#endvote20:33
meetingologyVoting ended on: VenezuelaTeam20:33
meetingologyVotes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:020:33
meetingologyMotion carried20:33
svijtiagopolicarpopt: venezuela not portugal ;)20:33
kenvandinecongrats!20:33
kenvandinewe're looking forward to what 2018 has in store!20:34
nhainesGood job, Venezuela Team.  Keep up the excellent work!20:34
x3mboy:D20:34
elmudometalThz :D20:34
kenvandine#topic Ubuntu Tunisia20:34
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kenvandinehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/TunisianTeam/ReVerificationApplication201720:35
kenvandineAnyone here to represent Ubuntu Tunisia20:35
tcarrondocongrats Venezuela!20:35
x3mboyThanks20:35
Naudythanks to all20:35
gsilvaptKeep it up, Venezuela! :)20:35
tiagopolicarpoptSorry i am on mobile web, i lost some messenger, svij20:35
svijtiagopolicarpopt: no worries ;)20:36
tiagopolicarpoptcongrats Venezuela!20:36
gsilvaptSo, nobody from Tunisian LoCo?20:36
kenvandinetheir team reports page ends at 201520:37
kyrofaThis loco does not seem tremendously active, although their application indicates a fairly constant number of events per year, none of their other pages have been updated for years, and I see no website20:37
gsilvaptMy opinion is they are opting for an educating strategy to gain more members which seems plausible and I understand this problem some LoCos often experience. That said, they present an interesting roadmap and with focus on educating new people to Ubuntu and open source software.20:37
svijI agree to gsilvapt20:38
nhainesI also agree with gsilvapt.20:38
kenvandinethere has been recent activity on their mailing list20:38
svijtheir mailing lists looks aktive too20:38
svijkenvandine was faster than me :)20:38
gsilvaptWell, we do not have a representative here but they could use other means of communication20:39
kyrofaThe loco verification page (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/TeamVerificationGuidelines) lists a website as an example of an established resource. Does the lack of one here seem concerning?20:39
gsilvaptStill, they use the mailing list for topics related to the LoCo so I don't know whether the ML is their main form of communication or not20:39
svijwe don't know much about the irc channel though20:40
svijbut I see some of the ubuntu-tn people around in other channels20:40
gsilvaptThe entire sentence says more than that, kyrofa: This requires some evidence that the team has established various resources (website, mailing list, listing of activities on the LoCo Directory etc)20:40
kenvandinethe wiki pages are quite out dated20:41
nhainesTheir Facebook pages seem at least semi-active (I don't use Facebook so I can't tell for sure).20:41
Letozaf_They have done some presentations in 2017: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TunisianTeam/Presentations20:41
kyrofagsilvapt, yes, I said "an example" :)20:41
gsilvaptkyrofa, sorry. Wanted to clarify that part a bit as it did not concern me too much. However, it concerns me the fact they do not have their LoCo directory updated or with much activity20:42
kyrofaFrom my perspective, I see an application that is up-to-date but nothing else20:42
nhaineskyrofa: but they have two webpages listed in the application.  :)20:42
kenvandineyeah20:42
kenvandinealthough the mailing list is active20:42
kenvandinethat's something20:42
nhainesAnd they have clear plans for the future as well.20:42
svijyeah, I guess we should advise them to update their pages20:43
gsilvaptI'd vote positively as they are betting on educating new people. On the other hand, we could advise some general updates to their pages and keep an eye on their activity logs20:43
nhainesDocumenting their work will help their team and others as well.20:43
gsilvaptTrue20:43
gsilvaptShall we vote?20:43
kenvandinei wonder if they have meetings?20:44
gsilvaptkenvandine, according to their LoCo directory, not since 2013 but I hardly doubt this is an updated information20:44
kenvandinelatest pictures is also 201320:44
kenvandinebut they did renew in 201520:44
kenvandineshall we suggest they update the directory and some pages?20:45
gsilvaptOk, to be consistent that makes sense20:45
kenvandineor... just vote to re-verify or not?20:45
nhainesYes, I think that's important.  And they seem to know it, according to their mailing list.20:45
kyrofaYeah, I think they need to update stuff20:46
svijthey also use facebook, didn't check how active that is20:46
kenvandinenot terribly20:46
kenvandinesome current stuff20:46
kenvandine#vote Ubuntu Tunisia Two month extension20:46
meetingologyPlease vote on: Ubuntu Tunisia Two month extension20:46
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)20:46
kenvandine#voters kenvandine svij gsilvapt kyrofa Letozaf_ nhaines20:46
meetingologyCurrent voters: Letozaf_ gsilvapt kenvandine kyrofa nhaines svij20:46
gsilvapt+120:46
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Letozaf_+120:46
meetingology+1 received from Letozaf_20:46
kenvandine+120:46
meetingology+1 received from kenvandine20:46
kyrofa+120:46
meetingology+1 received from kyrofa20:46
svij+120:47
meetingology+1 received from svij20:47
nhaines+120:47
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kenvandine#endvote20:47
meetingologyVoting ended on: Ubuntu Tunisia Two month extension20:47
meetingologyVotes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:020:47
meetingologyMotion carried20:47
gsilvaptThe next LoCo is my own LoCo. Should I abstain from voting?20:48
kenvandine#topic Ubuntu Portugal20:48
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kenvandinehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/PortugalTeam/Re-validationApplication201720:48
kenvandineAnyone here to represent Ubuntu Portugal20:48
tcarrondohere! From Ericeira, Portugal :)20:48
kenvandinegsilvapt, not sure :)20:48
tcarrondohi, all20:49
svijhey tcarrondo20:49
DiogoCme to, but tcarrondo is the representative20:49
nhainesThanks for being here.  :)20:49
DiogoCtoo20:49
svijfamiliar faces to the nicknames for me :)20:49
tcarrondohi, svij20:49
tiagopolicarpoptMe too from portugal20:50
tcarrondoand nhaines20:50
DiogoCall20:50
DiogoC:)20:50
kenvandinegreat representation!20:50
kenvandinesays allot :)20:50
tcarrondoI don' know how to mention here...20:50
tcarrondomy bad20:50
kyrofaI have a question on the application: what is the difference between events "Organized by the LoCo" and "events where we participated" ?20:50
tcarrondoI'll answer20:51
tcarrondosome events we are "just" invited to participate20:51
tcarrondoand give talks20:52
nhainesThis sounds very humble.  Those still count as events!  :)20:52
tcarrondobut those events are not organized by the LoCo,20:52
kyrofaAh ha-- so these lists need to be added together?20:52
nhainesAnd it's a great way to get more exposure and give newer members experience without being overwhelming.20:52
tcarrondoso we shouldn't get the organization credits for them20:52
kyrofaYeah this is great20:53
kenvandineexcellent application20:53
tcarrondothanks!20:53
kenvandineany more questions before we vote?20:53
nhainesDo you have any specific plans or wishes for the team in 2018?20:53
svijI hope for an UbuCon Europe 2019 ;)20:54
kyrofaIndeed. My only suggestion is to double check your wiki page, it looks a tad old. Make sure it's still relevant20:54
kyrofaNo more questions from me20:54
tcarrondoUbucon 2019? don't ruin the surpise...20:54
svijhahaha20:54
nhainesHaha!20:54
gsilvapt:D20:54
tcarrondowiki page? It should be done! thanks20:55
kenvandine#vote Ubuntu Portugal20:55
meetingologyPlease vote on: Ubuntu Portugal20:55
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)20:55
kenvandine#voters kenvandine svij gsilvapt kyrofa Letozaf_ nhaines20:55
meetingologyCurrent voters: Letozaf_ gsilvapt kenvandine kyrofa nhaines svij20:55
kyrofagsilvapt, I suggest you obstain, although I suspect it won't matter ;)20:55
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nhaines+120:55
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svij+120:55
meetingology+1 received from svij20:55
kyrofa+120:55
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Letozaf_+120:55
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gsilvapt0 as it is my LoCo and this feel more adequate20:55
meetingology0 as it is my LoCo and this feel more adequate received from gsilvapt20:55
kenvandine#endvote20:55
meetingologyVoting ended on: Ubuntu Portugal20:55
meetingologyVotes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:120:55
meetingologyMotion carried20:55
kenvandinecongrats!20:55
svijcongrats, keep up your good work :)20:55
DiogoC:)20:55
kenvandineand thanks for all the great work20:55
nhainesCongratulations, and keep up the great work!  :D20:55
tcarrondo:)20:55
kyrofaLooking great guys, keep it up20:55
DiogoCthanks20:55
gsilvaptThank you guys ::)20:55
Letozaf_Congrats20:55
tiagopolicarpopt:)20:55
tcarrondothanks!!20:56
kenvandine#topic SwissTeam20:56
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kenvandinehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwissTeam/ReVerificationApplication201720:56
kenvandineAnyone here to represent SwissTeam20:56
tiagopolicarpoptThanks20:56
kenvandinei guess we don't have a SwissTeam representative20:58
gsilvaptTheir information is not very clear. They seem active, but don't have a LoCo Directory nor is that up-to-date20:58
kenvandineevents seem quite lacking20:58
gsilvaptOr is this a first-time request and thus they don't have a LoCo Directory?20:59
nhainesIt appears to me that they were concerned that they needed to be on the agenda to at least gain more time to finish the application.20:59
kyrofaYeah, judging from the Linux Day site they have things going on, but the application seems incomplete20:59
svijthe application also says DRAFT at the top20:59
kyrofaHeh20:59
kenvandinehuge gap in mailing list traffic21:00
kenvandineoct 16 to dec 1721:00
kyrofaOuch21:00
kenvandineand dec 17 was about re-verification21:00
kenvandinesounds like they might be trying to get the loco going again21:00
svijbut swiss is a bit different to other countries, since Germany has a strong community and many people are helping online over there21:00
kyrofaYeah, I say give them a two-month extension21:00
nhainesYeah, I think things look positive but we need concrete information.  They should have more time to get it to us.  :)21:01
kenvandineok21:01
kenvandinelets vote on that21:01
gsilvaptshall we vote on that?21:01
svijyup21:01
kenvandine#topic SwissTeam Two month extension21:01
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kenvandinewhoops21:01
gsilvaptvote not topic :P21:02
kyrofaHaha21:02
kenvandine#vote SwissTeam Two month extension21:02
meetingologyPlease vote on: SwissTeam Two month extension21:02
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svij+121:02
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kenvandine#voters kenvandine svij gsilvapt kyrofa Letozaf_ nhaines21:02
meetingologyCurrent voters: Letozaf_ gsilvapt kenvandine kyrofa nhaines svij21:02
Letozaf_+121:02
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nhaines+1 Please continue working on your application and get back to us.  :)21:02
meetingology+1 Please continue working on your application and get back to us.  :) received from nhaines21:02
kenvandine#endvote21:02
meetingologyVoting ended on: SwissTeam Two month extension21:02
meetingologyVotes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:021:02
meetingologyMotion carried21:02
kenvandine#topic any other business?21:03
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kenvandinewho wants to go update all the expirations?21:03
* kyrofa waves, because I have no clue how21:03
nhaines#vote Who wants to update all the expirations?21:04
kenvandinegreat time to learn :)21:04
kyrofaExactly!21:04
* Letozaf_ me too does not have idea21:04
nhainesIt's actually pretty easy.21:04
kyrofaLetozaf_ we can split them unless someone else also doesn't know?21:04
* nhaines hides /o\21:04
kenvandinenhaines, we have a voluteer :)21:04
kenvandinejust change the date and enter a comment for why21:04
kenvandinei can show you on the first one21:04
nhainesI've done it before.  :)21:05
* Letozaf_ ok looks easy21:05
kenvandinenhaines, for kyrofa :)21:05
kenvandineshall we confirm a date for our next meeting?21:05
nhainesSure.21:05
kyrofakenvandine, you do AZ, I'll do Myanmar, Venezuala, and Tunisia, Letozaf_ you can do Portugal and Switzerland. Sound okay?21:06
kenvandineok21:06
nhainesAny questions, just ask in the IRC channel or Telegram group.  :)21:06
Letozaf_ok21:06
kyrofaGood deal21:06
kyrofaNext meeting, Jan 8th, 2000 UTC?21:06
nhainesWorks for me!21:07
kenvandineyeah21:07
kenvandineworks for me21:07
kyrofaAnyone not gonna be here?21:07
Letozaf_ok21:07
svijyup21:07
kyrofaCool21:07
x3mboyo/21:08
kenvandineanything else?21:08
MajBThanks.  Good meeting.21:08
nhainesHappy holidays to everyone, of course.  :)  Happy new year in particular!21:08
kenvandine#endmeeting21:09
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meetingologyMeeting ended Mon Dec 11 21:09:25 2017 UTC.21:09
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-12-11-20.07.moin.txt21:09
Letozaf_Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you all21:09
kenvandineHappy Holidays to all!21:09
kyrofaMerry Christmas!21:09
kenvandinegsilvapt, http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-12-11-20.07.moin.txt21:10
kenvandinegsilvapt, you can grab the notes from there21:10
NaudyMerry Christmas and Happy New Year to you all21:16
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