[08:47] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:52] <Nafallo> o/
[08:59] <brobostigon> o/
[09:03] <SuperMatt> \i
[09:03] <SuperMatt> d'oh
[09:03] <SuperMatt> \o
[09:14] <diplo> Morning
[13:40] <diddledan> I'm looking through the irclogs.ubuntu.com - there appears to be some nicknames with spaces in them - that confuses me
[13:41] <diddledan> e.g.: [13:41] <diddledan> I'm thinking there's a character conversion issue there
[13:45] <diddledan> another one: [13:53] <diddledan> ok, it seems whatever is saved the logs inserted a space after and ] character
[13:53] <diddledan> any*
[14:50] <diddledan> https://media1.tenor.com/images/a880b69001653a212fb30870b5f1fadb/tenor.gif
[15:12] <diddledan> daftykins: which mobo did you get for your intel 6700?
[15:13] <diddledan> daftykins: worth checking for a BIOS update, in any case: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025619/software.html
[15:17] <foobarry> any recommendations for books or resources to teach my 7yr old to program?
[15:27] <brobostigon> something like https://www.amazon.co.uk/Micro-hobbyists-students-teachers-programmable/dp/1537331019/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1513006011&sr=1-1&keywords=microbit
[16:54] <daftykins> diddledan: yeah i kept checking mine for the microcode fix for that rare but relevant hyperthreading bug, i've got Asus' "Z170 Pro Gaming" (daft names) but i've only seen last months
[16:54] <daftykins> https://www.asus.com/uk/Motherboards/Z170-PRO-GAMING/HelpDesk_BIOS/
[16:58] <daftykins> diddledan: i think it's just the beginning though really, we'll see tonnes more of these into the new year :)
[18:07] <ali1234> i got the Z170-A
[18:07] <ali1234> i don't think ME works if you have a Z170 chipset
[18:08] <zmoylan-pi> windows me... there's a name i haven't heard in a long time.../star wars :-)
[18:12] <daftykins> ali1234: sure it does
[20:00] <laptop212321321> what is lighter than lubuntu and what is better for a slow computer 16.04 or 16.10
[20:01] <zmoylan-pi> tiny core linux, puppy linux, raspian x86 are some i've heard bandied about... have downloaded raspian x86 but haven't tried it yet
[20:02] <laptop212321321> that cna be installed on an hd and have similar features to lubuntu
[20:02] <laptop212321321> I tried puppy it is okay
[20:02] <laptop212321321> and works fast.
[20:02] <laptop212321321> I am wondering if lubuntu is faster than debian testing
[20:03] <zmoylan-pi> lubuntu is as light as it gets i suspect if you want most of ubuntu
[20:03] <laptop212321321> I like lubuntu but is one version lighter than the other
[20:05] <zmoylan-pi> ubuntu > xubuntu > lubuntu in terms of cpu and ram usage aiui
[20:06] <daftykins> what are the system specs?
[20:06] <laptop212321321> core2duo 2.1 2 gb ram
[20:06] <daftykins> and what do you mainly use this system for?
[20:06] <laptop212321321> browsing
[20:06] <laptop212321321> but I open like 6 pages in chrome and it is done
[20:06] <daftykins> that's not enough RAM for anything like youtube then
[20:06] <laptop212321321> I am wondering if debian testing or a debian distribution is faster and lighter
[20:06] <zmoylan-pi> well that's more chrome....
[20:07] <laptop212321321> I use chromium and firefox
[20:07] <daftykins> honestly you can get a much higher spec system for £150 or under now, it's more cost effective to abandon that one
[20:07] <daftykins> software won't fix that being a dinosaur
[20:07] <laptop212321321> that is true
[20:07] <laptop212321321> I have an i5 laptop but it is using windows 10
[20:07]  * zmoylan-pi hits daftykins with my velociraptor netbook.... :-)
[20:07] <daftykins> * youtube brings said netbook to its' knees
[20:29] <laptop212321321> has anyone tried manjaro
[20:30] <Maefs> yes
[20:31] <laptop212321321> is it better than lubuntu
[20:31] <laptop212321321> by better I mean faster
[20:31] <daftykins> laptop212321321: it doesn't matter what you pick, there's not enough RAM on that machine to stand up to modern tasks - more than likely the graphics hardware is holding it back too
[20:31] <daftykins> please, take it from experience, you can't polish a turd into doing modern things :)
[20:31] <laptop212321321> I agree, you are right, but this is not about performance
[20:32] <laptop212321321> this is now about features, I was going to install it on my i5 laptop
[20:32] <Maefs> i liked it
[20:32] <laptop212321321> I agree, with modern day operating tasks
[20:32] <laptop212321321> you need a faster machine, no question
[20:32] <daftykins> ah ok
[20:32] <daftykins> well you don't need to go as low as lubuntu for an i5
[20:33] <laptop212321321> you are right, but I do a lot of multitasking
[20:33] <daftykins> how much RAM does the i5 machine have then?
[20:33] <laptop212321321> even with 8 gb
[20:33] <laptop212321321> of ram it does not seem like enough
[20:33] <daftykins> perhaps you're trying to leave 100 tabs open in a greedy browser such as chrome :)
[20:33] <laptop212321321> that is it!
[20:33] <daftykins> do you have an SSD in there?
[20:34] <laptop212321321> no
[20:34] <daftykins> then that's a worthy upgrade
[20:34] <daftykins> even web browsing will speed up with an SSD
[20:34] <laptop212321321> One last question what is the difference between debian testing and lubuntu in terms of software availablity and performance
[20:34] <laptop212321321> really
[20:34] <laptop212321321> okay will try it
[20:34] <laptop212321321> a solid state drive?
[20:34] <daftykins> yes
[20:35] <daftykins> e.g. Samsung 850 EVO / 850 Pro