[08:47] morning boys and girls. [08:52] o/ [08:59] o/ [09:03] \i [09:03] d'oh [09:03] \o [09:14] Morning [13:40] I'm looking through the irclogs.ubuntu.com - there appears to be some nicknames with spaces in them - that confuses me [13:41] e.g.: === [cro] smiley [n=smiley@83-131-87-119.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu [13:41] I'm thinking there's a character conversion issue there [13:45] another one: === [A] ndy80 [n=wettreyw@host22-140.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [13:53] ok, it seems whatever is saved the logs inserted a space after and ] character [13:53] any* [14:50] https://media1.tenor.com/images/a880b69001653a212fb30870b5f1fadb/tenor.gif [15:12] daftykins: which mobo did you get for your intel 6700? [15:13] daftykins: worth checking for a BIOS update, in any case: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025619/software.html [15:17] any recommendations for books or resources to teach my 7yr old to program? [15:27] something like https://www.amazon.co.uk/Micro-hobbyists-students-teachers-programmable/dp/1537331019/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1513006011&sr=1-1&keywords=microbit [16:54] diddledan: yeah i kept checking mine for the microcode fix for that rare but relevant hyperthreading bug, i've got Asus' "Z170 Pro Gaming" (daft names) but i've only seen last months [16:54] https://www.asus.com/uk/Motherboards/Z170-PRO-GAMING/HelpDesk_BIOS/ [16:58] diddledan: i think it's just the beginning though really, we'll see tonnes more of these into the new year :) [18:07] i got the Z170-A [18:07] i don't think ME works if you have a Z170 chipset [18:08] windows me... there's a name i haven't heard in a long time.../star wars :-) [18:12] ali1234: sure it does [20:00] what is lighter than lubuntu and what is better for a slow computer 16.04 or 16.10 [20:01] tiny core linux, puppy linux, raspian x86 are some i've heard bandied about... have downloaded raspian x86 but haven't tried it yet [20:02] that cna be installed on an hd and have similar features to lubuntu [20:02] I tried puppy it is okay [20:02] and works fast. [20:02] I am wondering if lubuntu is faster than debian testing [20:03] lubuntu is as light as it gets i suspect if you want most of ubuntu [20:03] I like lubuntu but is one version lighter than the other [20:05] ubuntu > xubuntu > lubuntu in terms of cpu and ram usage aiui [20:06] what are the system specs? [20:06] core2duo 2.1 2 gb ram [20:06] and what do you mainly use this system for? [20:06] browsing [20:06] but I open like 6 pages in chrome and it is done [20:06] that's not enough RAM for anything like youtube then [20:06] I am wondering if debian testing or a debian distribution is faster and lighter [20:06] well that's more chrome.... [20:07] I use chromium and firefox [20:07] honestly you can get a much higher spec system for £150 or under now, it's more cost effective to abandon that one [20:07] software won't fix that being a dinosaur [20:07] that is true [20:07] I have an i5 laptop but it is using windows 10 [20:07] * zmoylan-pi hits daftykins with my velociraptor netbook.... :-) [20:07] * youtube brings said netbook to its' knees [20:29] has anyone tried manjaro [20:30] yes [20:31] is it better than lubuntu [20:31] by better I mean faster [20:31] laptop212321321: it doesn't matter what you pick, there's not enough RAM on that machine to stand up to modern tasks - more than likely the graphics hardware is holding it back too [20:31] please, take it from experience, you can't polish a turd into doing modern things :) [20:31] I agree, you are right, but this is not about performance [20:32] this is now about features, I was going to install it on my i5 laptop [20:32] i liked it [20:32] I agree, with modern day operating tasks [20:32] you need a faster machine, no question [20:32] ah ok [20:32] well you don't need to go as low as lubuntu for an i5 [20:33] you are right, but I do a lot of multitasking [20:33] how much RAM does the i5 machine have then? [20:33] even with 8 gb [20:33] of ram it does not seem like enough [20:33] perhaps you're trying to leave 100 tabs open in a greedy browser such as chrome :) [20:33] that is it! [20:33] do you have an SSD in there? [20:34] no [20:34] then that's a worthy upgrade [20:34] even web browsing will speed up with an SSD [20:34] One last question what is the difference between debian testing and lubuntu in terms of software availablity and performance [20:34] really [20:34] okay will try it [20:34] a solid state drive? [20:34] yes [20:35] e.g. Samsung 850 EVO / 850 Pro === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD