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stephen101Hey guys I live booted on 17 Ubuntu and no issues.00:09
stephen101Both cores show working in system monitor.00:10
stephen101Even my WiFi working haha00:11
stephen101Wtf is the difference between 16 and 17?00:11
bazhangUbuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) release notes can be found here: https://ubottu.com/y/Artful stephen101 , and please no cursing here00:15
stephen101Thanks. But why would I have processor issues with 16 v. 17?00:15
stephen101Power, WiFi and CPU issues.00:16
bazhangstephen101, you'd need to specify more clearly00:16
stephen101http://paste.ubuntu.com/26158204/00:17
stephen101Biggest out of those issues it was saying "Processor context corrupt"00:18
stephen101I guess I am going to do a fresh format and install 17.00:19
stephen101Though will have to get used to the new interface.00:19
Ben6416.04 is supported until 2021, i recommend that00:19
stephen101But its not working with my PC correctly. I can't use WiFi, CPU has core issues, and there is random power issues saying my laptop has critical low battery though its plugged in.00:21
stephen101I tried every solution provided earlier nothing made a change.00:21
Ben64use the hwe to bring 16.04 to 17.10's kernel00:21
Ben64still gets you supported until 2021, and has the newer kernel and stuff00:21
stephen101So you saying 17 is like beta?00:22
bazhangstephen101, there are two 17's00:22
bazhangneither are beta00:22
Ben64well there is no "17" there is 17.04 and 17.10. both releases are not LTS versions. LTS versions are supported for 5 years. Non-LTS versions are supported for 9 months00:23
bazhang17.10 is the currently latest release stephen10100:23
Ben6417.04 loses support next month, 17.10 loses support in July00:23
stephen101Ya the version I grabbed is 17.1000:25
stephen101I mean worst case I can just revert is 6 months.00:26
bazhangstephen101, there are no downgrades00:27
bazhangstephen101, the next LTS is 18.04 , in april of next year00:28
stephen101I can just upgrade then :-)00:28
bazhangstephen101, yes, thats right00:28
stephen101In the mean time I am not rocking a system that is unstable. Lol00:29
stephen101I spent hours trying to stabilize it. Nadda.00:30
stephen10117.10 here we come XD00:30
stephen101I still wonder what they did different on the kernel, they need to apply it to 16 lol00:32
Ben64like i said, 17.10's kernel is already available in 16.0400:33
stephen101Its not harm though. It was a fresh install00:33
Ben64not sure what that means00:34
stephen101Meaning I just got the PC. I installed Ubuntu dual with windows 10.00:34
Ben64ok?00:34
stephen101Problem for me is, I expect a os to generally be fully functional out the box, 16 was not least for this laptop.00:35
stephen101I have it running on my other laptop without any issues.00:36
Ben64Well windows isn't fully functional out of the box. And it's still not "16" it's 16.04. And you could have installed the HWE kernel in 16.0400:37
stephen101But I have never spent a day on and off researching how to get it to work properly on a windows install lol.00:38
stephen101Or other Ubuntu installs...00:38
Ben64pretty easy though, just install newer kernel00:38
Ben64doesn't require a day of research00:39
stephen101Ya but nobody earlier even suggested that lol. We went though command after command and paste bin after paste bin lol00:39
stephen101Not that I didn't appreciate the help but nothing worked.00:40
stephen101And they were convinced it was hw related not software.00:40
stephen101Apparently I am not alone.00:47
stephen101https://communities.intel.com/thread/11596800:47
stephen101Fedora gave me same errors as Ubuntu 16. And this guy has same processor but Fedora.00:48
realieshow do you change the boot options menu to stay for 1 second instead of 15ish?01:00
Ben64realies: change 'GRUB_TIMEOUT' in /etc/default/grub01:02
realiesBen64, thanks01:02
realiesalso, im getting amdgpu_init to crash...01:03
realiesis it possible to boot without that driver?01:03
* realies managed to boot in recovery mode01:03
realiesBen64, it seems its' read only in that mode01:04
Ben64mount -o remount,rw /dev/null /01:05
realiesdo i have to "reload" grub settings after editing the timeout?01:07
krytarikrealies: Yes, "sudo update-grub"01:14
realiescool01:16
realiesmodified the network settings via the gui01:16
realiesand it seems they are not stored in etc/network/interfaces01:16
realiesany clues where do i find them?01:16
realiesnmtui :)01:20
realiesBen64, still takes 25 seconds in the grub menu01:23
Bashing-omrealies: Waiting on networking (??) . what does ' systemd-analyze blame ' relate in the boot process ?01:26
realieswhat?01:26
Bashing-omrealies: run terminal command ' systemd-analyze blame ' to see the times in the boot process .01:27
realies 7.542s NetworkManager-wait-online.service01:28
realiesim talking about the grub boot menu01:28
Baronesrunning packettracer on bash returns nothing, but running /opt/pt/bin/PacketTracer7 starts cisco packet tracer normally01:35
Baroneswhat could be?01:35
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snkcldon ubuntu 17.10, where are the wayland logs?02:13
KazooieHi. I've been handed a laptop this evening with Ubuntu 14.04 installed on it. I'm trying to upgrade it to Ubuntu 17.10 but none of the servers can be found when running `apt update`. Any ideas on how to force an update to artful?02:13
nicomachusKazooie: if you're going that far, probably best to just backup the /home folder and do a fresh install of 17.1002:16
Bashing-omKazooie: Proprietary drivers reverted .' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ; sudo do-release-upgrade '.\02:16
stephen102Could always install from USB. Gives option to save data.02:19
mentalitahey I have some custom actions in caja (thunar is my default) and it asks me for sudo pass when I want to perform the action, but in the terminal (if I didn't run caja through terminal nothing is displayed)...how can I overcome the issue?02:21
jrabbitsnkcld: are they not in /var/log ?02:30
jrabbitsnkcld: maybe uhhh ~/.local/log02:30
SemiNushi02:38
SemiNusplease I need help02:38
SemiNusI just copied 10 GB from my local drive to my hard drive02:38
SemiNuserm, I meant: to my external hard drive02:38
SemiNusafter I verified that all data has been successfully transfered to the external drive, I deleted the files from the hard drive in my computer02:39
SemiNusthen the computer had some issues,  shutting it down did not work,  and I had to unplug it02:39
SemiNushowever, after rebooting, all the files on the external hard drive were gone02:39
SemiNusI guess the files are still on the external hard drive as they have been copied02:40
SemiNushowever I cannot see them02:40
SemiNuswhat can I do in order to recover them?02:40
SemiNusfile system type is ntfs02:41
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stephen102New Ubuntu is very annoying lol.03:19
stephen10217.10 lol03:19
stephen102Was a total pain to install nuvola player 3.03:19
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stephen102Gdebi doesn't work correctly in 17.1003:20
Bashing-omstephen102: change to the Xorg desktop - see if that is not a beter experience for you .03:24
stephen102Ya had to use dgkg to install, didn't work, had to follow it with apt fix broken lol03:27
stephen102Technically support for nuvola player isn't listed for 17.1003:28
JoeRWHello, can anyone please help me figure out why I'm receiving this critical error? https://pastebin.com/XNKkHXeJ03:30
Ben64stephen102: should pick a player in the repos03:53
programoHi I have a problem with my wifi device drivers for Ubuntu 14.0404:09
programoThe enable wifi option does not show up04:10
programoHow can I resolve this issue04:10
programo?04:10
bjrohanHello. I have a new Dell xps 15, nvidia 1050 and I can not seem to get a few things corrected. 1st, the machine won't shut down. in the gui trying to shutdown, it gets to the logo, then just hangs. If I then press power, the machine appears to power down, but the next day when I try to start it up, the battery is dead04:13
bjrohanand the battery should last much longer off than 16 hours. it lasts when I boot and shut off in Windows04:13
bjrohanI have this issue with both the Nvidia 384 driver and the open source nouveau driver04:14
Jordan_Ubjrohan: Do you have the same problem if you use "systemctl poweroff" to shutdown?04:24
Jordan_Ubjrohan: Until you get this properly fixed, know that for most laptops if you hold the power button down for a long time, around 10 seconds, it will force power off the machine.04:26
Jordan_Ubjrohan: This bug sounds similar but not quite the same as what you're describing, and is also on an XPS 15: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1659623 . Looks like a enabling proposed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed and installing the proposed kernel will fix the bug, as presumably will just waiting for the package to graduate from -proposed to a standard update.04:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1659623 in linux (Ubuntu) "Shutdown/reboot hang on Dell XPS 15 9550 BIOS 1.2.18+" [Medium,Fix committed]04:30
bjrohanJordan_U, so in cli enter systemctl poweroff04:31
Jordan_Ubjrohan: Actually, don't bother testing that since this is likely a known bug (and for this bug I would not expect using "systemctl poweroff" to change anything).04:32
Jordan_Uprogramo: Can you test wireless from an Ubuntu 16.04 liveUSB? Any particular reason you're using 14.04 instead of 16.04?04:35
bjrohanHmm I have a quite newer kernel and BIOS than the reported bug. BIOS 1.5 and kernel 4.1304:37
bjrohanFWIW04:37
Ben64bjrohan: i'd do this if i were you http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html04:38
bjrohanBen64, Thank you, will read up on it04:41
programoJordan_U,  I have installed ubuntu 14.04 along side of windows 1004:45
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programoI have already installed Ubuntu  14.04 now dual booting with windows 10 as well.Since my wifi on Ubuntu 14.04 is not working can I switch to Ubuntu 16.04?04:47
bcowanshould be able to upgrade to next LTS which is 16.04, yes04:49
programobcowan,  will my windows break if I newly install Ubuntu 16.0404:53
programobcowan,  I had used this article to install ubuntu 14.0404:54
programohttps://www.tecmint.com/install-ubuntu-16-04-alongside-with-windows-10-or-8-in-dual-boot/04:54
bcowanyou already have ubuntu installed, you're just upgrading04:55
programoI do not have my wifi or ethernet working , so I cannot upgrade04:55
programobcowan, So should I boot from usb and install?04:56
bcowanwell thats a whole new install then, best to follow the guide04:57
programoCan I use this version of Ubuntu to install05:04
programohttp://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/05:04
programoon my desktop05:04
programodoes the wifi work  on this?05:04
Ben64programo: try it and see05:07
programookay, I am05:08
programogenerating a live cd05:08
programoof ubuntu 16.0405:08
programoif the wifi works on live cd , it should work if I install it as well right?05:09
Ben64should05:09
rolandbeowulfI recently bought a bluetooth keyboard with a device switching mode so i can quickly respond to txts and get back to work on my laptop, but every time i switch away from my ubuntu 17.04 laptop and switch back, my keyboard loses the connection and i have to re-pair it. Are there any workarounds to this?05:19
lotuspsychjerolandbeowulf: i think breaking a bluetooth connection always requier a re-pair05:22
rolandbeowulfMy iphone seems to handle being switched away from just fine though, so it apparently maintains the pairing in a way ubuntu doesn't understand05:23
lotuspsychjerolandbeowulf: are you using bluez?05:25
rolandbeowulfif that's ubuntu's default bluetooth, then yes05:26
lotuspsychje!info bluez | rolandbeowulf doublecheck plz05:27
ubotturolandbeowulf doublecheck plz: bluez (source: bluez): Bluetooth tools and daemons. In component main, is optional. Version 5.46-0ubuntu3 (artful), package size 915 kB, installed size 4186 kB05:27
lotuspsychjerolandbeowulf: maybe it can get easier for you?05:27
programoI have created a live usb with ubuntu 16.0405:32
programoI can see that it recognizes wifi near me05:32
programoIf I install this os on my laptop along with windos 1005:32
programowill the wifi work05:33
programoor do I need any drivers for wofo?05:33
lotuspsychjeprogramo: most wifi chipsets work by default on ubuntu yes05:33
programowifi*05:33
programookay05:33
lotuspsychjeprogramo: wich chipset is your wifi?05:33
programointel core i 5 7th gen05:33
lotuspsychjeprogramo: wifi chipset, not cpu05:34
programohow do i find that?05:34
lotuspsychjeprogramo: are you in ubuntu?05:34
programonope I am installing ubuntu on my other laptop which already has ubuntu 14.04 but the wifi does not work05:35
programoso I am trying to replace ubuntu 14.04 with ubuntu 16.0405:35
programolotuspsychje,05:35
lotuspsychjeprogramo: sudo lshw -C network05:35
programookay05:36
lotuspsychjeprogramo: no need to paste all, just chipset name05:36
programookay05:36
rolandbeowulflotuspsychje: I've double and triple checked and im pretty certain its bluez05:40
rolandbeowulfI didnt really touch bluetooth much before getting this keyboard so i doubt i wouldve installed an alternate bluetooth client05:40
lotuspsychjerolandbeowulf: bluez isnt installed by default, optional so i presume you installed it before then?05:41
programolotuspsychje,05:41
programohttp://lpaste.net/36069005:41
lotuspsychjeprogramo: okay..2 unclaimed devices not good news05:42
programocan I install ubuntu 16.04 on that machine?05:42
lotuspsychjeprogramo: try the 16.04.3 iso live install and see if your intel wifi is detetcted there05:43
programookay05:43
rolandbeowulflotuspsychje: I must've installed it later, point is im 9/10 certain this is using bluetooth05:43
lotuspsychjeprogramo: some chipsets can also be blocked by uefi settings05:44
programolotuspsychje,  I tried with live usb , without installing 16.04.3. It was able to detect wifi. So if I install the OS it should detect wifi right?05:45
lotuspsychjeprogramo: yes, but dont forget to enable updates during setup ok05:45
programookay05:45
lotuspsychjeprogramo: good luck!05:46
programoI had disabled secure boot as well in uefi settings05:46
programothank you!05:46
lotuspsychjeprogramo: if live usb detects, its good news05:46
lotuspsychjerolandbeowulf: not sure what else could be done, perhaps a tail -f /var/log/syslog and plugout/in BT to see errors reatime?05:47
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lotuspsychjerolandbeowulf: apt-cache policy bluez to see what version installed05:49
rolandbeowulflotuspsychje: 5.43-0ubuntu1.105:50
lotuspsychje!info bluez zesty05:51
ubottubluez (source: bluez): Bluetooth tools and daemons. In component main, is optional. Version 5.43-0ubuntu1.1 (zesty), package size 938 kB, installed size 4246 kB05:51
lotuspsychjerolandbeowulf: looks good05:51
lotuspsychjerolandbeowulf: perhaps trying your BT in an ubuntu LTS version might give you more light also? perhaps in a liveusb?05:52
rolandbeowulfWould loading it up in a VM work? I don't have any usbs free for booting right now05:53
rolandbeowulfmy sandisks *really* don't seem to like being booted from :I05:54
lotuspsychjerolandbeowulf: not sure how BT reacts in a vm sorry05:54
lotuspsychjerolandbeowulf: never have issues with sandisk before F12 works pretty well here05:55
rolandbeowulflotuspsychje: The particular sandisks ive had almost never work for booting for some odd reason, so I think this might be something ill have to jot down and report back later on05:56
lotuspsychjerolandbeowulf: perhaps uefi block at boot?05:57
rolandbeowulflotuspsychje: Perhaps, all i know is that ive dd'd the same iso with the same command on these sandisks and a generic garden variety usb, and the sandisks almost never work while the generics work just fine05:59
lotuspsychjerolandbeowulf: maybe a faulty one?06:01
alkisgIt's possible to configure grub to directly boot an .iso from the hard disk06:02
alkisg(good morning all :))06:02
lotuspsychjehey alkisg06:03
rolandbeowulflotuspsychje: Could be, but they seem to have functioned perfectly for conventional file transfer for the year ive had them06:03
lotuspsychjerolandbeowulf: try a tail -f /var/log/syslog on plugout/in usb also for errors06:04
lotuspsychjerolandbeowulf: some devices might get errors like was not an MPT device or so06:05
jk^!usb06:05
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent06:05
lotuspsychje!msgthebot | jk^06:06
ubottujk^: Please investigate me only with "/msg ubottu bot" or in #ubuntu-bots. Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu search <pattern>"06:06
jk^what means "Live usb Pendrive Persistent"?06:07
rolandbeowulfjk^: It means a usb with memory that remains after shutdown06:08
jk^ok06:08
jk^yesterday i tried to burn live dvd :\ but i had problems with burning devices :\ i wanted to try to burn ubuntu and all its flavours, so if i have problem with one of them, i can try with the other ones06:09
alkisgjk^: you can create a usb stick that has all the ubuntu .iso inside it, and select which one to boot from06:11
jk^really=? :-o06:11
jk^i have a pendrive with much capacity, 64 GB06:12
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alkisgI have one with 10 different ubuntu versions inside it, a couple of fedora/debian/opensuse, and also windows etc06:12
alkisgAnd of course a folder for my documents as well06:12
lotuspsychjejk^: there is an AOI ubuntu flavors iso out there to download also06:12
jk^slow slow, i'm so bad when i have to do operations at pc :|06:14
jk^what's AOI?06:14
alkisghttps://linuxaio.net/downloads/linux-aio-ubuntu/lts-releases/06:14
jk^lotuspsychje06:14
alkisgThat's ^ aio06:14
jk^alkisg how to put the all 7 flavours on the same pendrive? :\06:16
alkisgjk^: that's called "multiboot usb", you can google it, here's one of the possible tools: http://multibootusb.org/06:16
jk^however this is the log of the problem with dvd writer: https://pastebin.com/raw/smRuiBsg06:17
jk^alkisg do tools like unetbootin or rufus do it?06:18
lotuspsychjethats for single iso's jk^06:18
alkisgI think no06:18
jk^:(06:18
alkisghttps://github.com/pbatard/rufus/issues/45106:19
alkisgHis answer is NO :D06:19
lotuspsychjejk^: make your life easy and try those AIO06:19
jk^however someone tells me unetbootis is bugged :\ so they tells me to use rufus, but rufus give me a problem during creation of live usb06:19
jk^*unetbootin06:20
jk^what means "AIO"?06:20
lotuspsychjejk^: did you click the url alkisg gave you?06:21
jk^yes, they don't be opened yet06:21
alkisgFor windows users creating linux usb sticks, there's also http://www.easy2boot.com/06:22
asarchOne stupid question: if I actually don't have any sound card installed could I still hear the music on a bluetooth wireless headphones?06:22
EraserPencilasarch: Give it a try. I believe soundcards are DAC's for audio. SInce BLuetooth is digital, a soundcard isnt needed.06:24
jk^[[[however this is the log of the problem with dvd writer: https://pastebin.com/raw/smRuiBsg]]06:25
jk^i think the problem is the dvd writer, sometime it disappear from "File Manager" where there are the resources/drive of my computer06:25
alkisgjk^: for hardware problems see #hardware, and for windows problems see #windows06:26
alkisgThis is for ubuntu issues only06:27
jk^i saw https://github.com/pbatard/rufus/issues/45106:29
jk^it tells me to visit https://github.com/pbatard/rufus/wiki/FAQ#Do_you_plan_to_add_multiboot_support06:29
alkisgYes, it's the answer that "rufus doesn't support multiboot" that you asked06:29
jk^so long to read and to understand :(06:29
jk^ok06:29
alkisgShort version: rufus doesn't support multiboot06:29
EraserPencilI need assistance with a networking setup. I have an RPi conncted via ethernet to my living room's router on static IP. I sshed into the RPi with my laptop and went to my room and connected to my room's powerline wirelessly, yet my RPi ssh window stays connected. I cant understand why. Does it mean I wouldnt need port forwarding?06:30
jk^ok so have i to try that http://multibootusb.org/ ?06:30
jk^alkisg06:30
lotuspsychjeEraserPencil: perhaps an issue for ##networking?06:31
lotuspsychjejk^: read suggestions before chatting here06:31
jk^yes, the problem is my english :( excuse me lotuspsychje06:31
lotuspsychje!it | jk^ see also here06:31
ubottujk^ see also here: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)06:31
EraserPenciljk^: I use Multisystem from https://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/. Multiboot dosent support live versions for installation06:32
alkisgor easy2boot06:32
programolotuspsychje,06:34
lotuspsychjeprogramo: yes?06:35
programoInstallation is a success, I got the wifi on ubuntu 16.04.306:35
lotuspsychje!yay | programo06:35
ubottuprogramo: Glad you made it! :-)06:35
programothank you so much!06:35
lotuspsychjeprogramo: you did all yourself mate ; )06:36
programoThanks to this forum and internet. Thank you again!06:36
jk^is a problem installing software which is not from repository?06:37
lotuspsychjejk^: what are you going to do?06:37
programowhere can I learn more about Ubuntu and how to use it, I am fairly new to Ubuntu06:40
programolotuspsychje, any suggestions?06:40
rolandbeowulfprogramo: Depends on what exactly you want to learn how to use06:40
lotuspsychje!manual | programo06:41
ubottuprogramo: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/06:41
asarchThank you EraserPencil06:41
asarchThank you very much :-)06:41
asarchHave a nice day06:41
rolandbeowulfprogramo: Personally I find its easiest to learn things which you actually need to know for a specific reason, so I set projects for myself as excuses to learn specific tools/skillsets06:43
rolandbeowulfjust dont forget to walk before you sprint06:43
jk^i know there is a repository to download every kind of software from... if there isn't a software in official repository, is it harmful/risky to download from other sources?06:44
programorolandbeowulf, thanks for the inputs06:44
rolandbeowulfjk^: Depends on what you're installing and where from. I opt for installing stuff from github instead of the repos all the time, whether it be because the repos are too out of date or just not working right06:46
rolandbeowulfLinux isnt nearly as prone to malware as windows, but thats not an excuse to forgo common sense06:47
rolandbeowulfGenerally id stick to the repos if you don't know what you're doing though06:48
rolandbeowulfyou can also add third party repos but again, common sense needs to be exercised in what you add06:49
lotuspsychjeprogramo: every program has also a manual page from terminal06:54
lotuspsychje!man | programo06:54
ubottuprogramo: The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the  command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal | Manpages online: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/06:54
rolandbeowulflotuspsychje: Also for truncated guides/assistance there is --help and whatis ie cat --help06:55
rolandbeowulf!whatis07:05
rolandbeowulfwoops, bumped enter key lol07:05
jram0421Hey guys, have a really weird issue going on that I have no clue how to fix07:19
jram0421I've verified keymaps and that there aren't any shortcuts set to Shift+e and for the love of god, even after reconfiguring layouts and keymaps can't get it fixed. I'm running 17.1007:21
alkisgjram0421: can't get fixed what? You didn't state the problem you're trying to solve with shift+e...07:22
jram0421alkisg: It literally won't let me capitalize e using shift+e07:23
alkisgjram0421: and what happens when you type shift+e?07:23
jram0421it ignores e entirely.07:23
jram0421yet it works without shift and works on W1007:24
alkisgjram0421: is this on a laptop or on a normal keyboard?07:24
jram0421Normal keyboard. Let me try another kb07:25
hateballjram0421: if you run "xev" does it register the shift+e input at all?07:25
jram0421Recognizes the shift07:25
jram0421hateball: I'll be right back, I'm going to try a few things07:27
V7Hey all :)07:27
V7Why this one appends to file, rather than rewrites ?: xterm -hold -title "Checking victim" -geometry 83x26-0+0 -bg "#000000" -fg "#FFFFFF" -e "airodump-ng --bssid C8:3A:35:0D:F9:30 -a mon0 --ignore-negative-one 2>&1 | tee /tmp/TMPflux/C8:3A:35:0D:F9:30"07:28
V7Could you please ... if you have some time ofc07:28
alkisgV7: tee rewrites, tee -a appends. So what you wrote is supposed to rewrite.07:29
V7Yup07:30
V7But it appends07:30
V7This's really strange07:30
V7It looks like this: https://i.imgur.com/Ev3ij3E.png07:31
alkisgV7: that may be continuous output from the program you're running on xterm07:32
V7continuous ?07:32
alkisgYou run airodump-ng, suppose it outputs 3 lines per 10 seconds07:33
alkisgThen all those lines will just be continuously written to that file07:33
V7Hm07:33
V7Do you know hwo it would be right to write xterm output to file ?07:34
alkisgWell first I don't think you want xterm output, but airodump output07:34
EriC^^i dont think the scope of this channel is to help you "hack victims"07:34
V7Yup07:34
V7EriC^^: this is not to hack a victim07:34
alkisgso  it would be something like xterm -e 'sh -c "airodump-ng > file"', not using tee07:35
EriC^^what then? you forgot your wifi password?07:35
V7It's to lewarn how to get an output from a program which doesn't output to stdout07:35
EriC^^V7: what about your question and the title?07:35
V7Find some similar application which you can't redirect like > like airdoump and we'll work with it07:36
V7EriC^^: This's just a line copied from a sciprt07:36
EriC^^ok07:37
V7So ..07:37
V7airodump-ng doesn't support an output to a text file07:37
V7xterm doesn't too07:37
V7how then ?07:37
jk^https://goo.gl/images/qgjh6f07:39
jk^what have i to do at this warning of rufus?07:39
EriC^^jk^: update rufus maybe07:41
EriC^^get the latest version07:41
jk^i downloaded it few minutes ago07:41
jk^it's the latest version07:41
EriC^^jk^: it does say that it will reuse them automatically later07:41
jk^i don't understand :\07:42
EriC^^jk^: it's missing some files for the newer syslinux so it has to download them, in the future you won't get any warning message07:42
jk^ok, then have to click "Yes" or "No"?07:43
EriC^^click yes07:43
charithhellow08:03
adrian_1908I have a question about the openvpn package. It create two dirs `client` and `server` inside `/etc/openvpn`. If I only use OpenVPN as a client, should I place certs and/or config files in the `client` dir?08:08
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anddamhello09:13
mitmfhello how can i extract .img.xz?09:20
alkisgDouble click it, it should open with file-roller or whatever zip manager you have09:22
alkisgIt will produce an .img09:22
mitmfunzip?09:22
alkisgWhich desktop environment are you using?09:22
alkisgYou don't need the console, just double click from the file manager09:23
mitmfubuntu09:23
alkisgUnity, Gnome, MATE, XFCE, LXDE, KDE?09:23
mitmfi don’t know09:23
alkisgOpen a terminal and type: ls /usr/share/xsessions09:24
alkisgWhat is the output?09:24
mitmfubuntu.desktop09:27
mitmfalkisg:09:27
alkisgmitmf: ok, then you're using unity09:27
alkisgSo, open the file manager, and double click on the image09:27
mitmfi did it with unxz09:28
mitmf:(09:28
mitmfi can’t do it with double click09:28
mitmfalkisg:09:28
mitmf:(09:28
alkisgWhy, do you see any error messages?09:28
mitmfno errormessage09:28
alkisgWhat happens when you double click on it?09:28
mitmfstrange GUI is shown09:29
alkisgIs it this program? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/File%20Roller09:29
alkisgThis is the "zip for linux", it's called file-roller and it's preinstalled and it can uncompress xz files09:30
mitmfno09:30
alkisgUpload a screenshot then09:30
alkisg!screenshot09:30
ubottuScreenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imgur.com/ and link the created page here.09:30
mitmfi can’t because i did it with unxz09:30
mitmf:(09:30
alkisgWhat are you asking then?09:30
alkisgHow to already do it in the past?09:30
alkisg:D09:30
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BadBunnyHi, maybe someone here can help me. since the installation of smartmontools my disks are not going to standby anymore. here is my smartd.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/26162506/09:45
BadBunnyany idea what i may have missed? as far as i know, -n standby should prevent disks from being wake up09:46
pax_rhoshow to kill zombie processes?10:15
alkisgpax_rhos: they're already killed. You'll stop seeing them in ps when their childs are killed etc, allowing the os to clean them up10:15
pax_rhosalkisg: http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1512987492.png10:18
alkisgpax_rhos: update-notifier will eventually read their exit numbers, allowing the os to clean up the process table10:19
Dani-hphow can i list all packages which have been manually installed (for example via dpkg -i) and do not provide an upstream repo?10:19
alkisgpax_rhos: if you close update-notifier, they'll get closed too10:19
alkisgDani-hp: apt-mark showmanual10:19
alkisg"do not provide an upstream repo" => apt policy10:20
Dani-hphm that shoes other's to10:20
Dani-hpi want to filter the packages which dont get update via apt-get upgrade10:21
Dani-hpmeaning they do not have an entry when running "apt-cache policy xxx"10:21
Dani-hpjust locally10:21
alkisgI think you'd need a script for that one, that parses the output of apt policy10:22
Dani-hpah i found something that might help10:23
Dani-hpaptitude search ~o10:23
lotuspsychjeDani-hp: or perhaps apt-mark showmanual10:24
alkisg(12:19:57 μμ) alkisg: Dani-hp: apt-mark showmanual :D10:24
alkisgThat only covers part of the requirements...10:25
lotuspsychjeoh didnt see alkisg sorry10:25
zetaAnyone know how to fix operation="getattr" info="Failed name lookup - disconnected path" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r"10:56
zetaI've tried allowing everything I can think of, aa-logprof and aa-genprof gives nothing.10:56
zetaWhen I put the profile in complain mode I get10:56
zetaoperation="file_inherit" family="unix" sock_type="stream" protocol=0 requested_mask="send receive" denied_mask="send receive"10:56
zetaApparmor10:57
lotuspsychje!apparmor | zeta can this help?11:02
ubottuzeta can this help?: For information about the AppArmor security framework employed in Ubuntu (since Gutsy Gibbon), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor11:02
zetalotuspsychje, I have an apparmor profile that fails to read file metadata11:04
zetabut I have /** r,11:05
zetalooking at the logs it seems to have something to do with ipc singaling, but having signal, in both profiles doesn't help11:06
zetaI have a process that calls another process that access the files11:07
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zetato be more specific I run hg (Mercurila) from nodejs within a chroot11:08
zetaif I edit nodejs's profile and make it rix instead of px it works11:09
zetabut I don't want that11:10
lotuspsychjezeta: im not the apparmor specialist myself , try to re-ask your issue all in one line here in chat with all details, ubuntu version,kernel version,steps tryed etc and idle11:13
zetaIs there a appropiate forum where I can ask it, it's a bit long for chat11:14
bazhangzeta askubuntu.com is one11:14
lotuspsychjezeta: try to compact it to the root problem11:21
YounderI think apparmour issues belong here. As long as they address the ubuntu setup uf apparmour.11:22
YounderThat said you might not gen an answer11:22
andre144khi all - anyone have a sample configuration for mutt for sending mails out without postfix? i wanna only login via smtp on an existing gmail-account. mail-passwd shld be stored automatically.11:23
BluesKajHi folks11:29
lotuspsychjeandre144k: perhaps the #mutt guys know something for you?11:29
zetaomg, it was   network unix, that was missing11:32
lotuspsychje!yay | zeta11:34
ubottuzeta: Glad you made it! :-)11:34
SCHAPiEwhy is fonts-noto so incomplete and outdated, in 17.10?11:39
SCHAPiEblack&white emoji, i really wonder why11:39
lotuspsychje!info fonts-noto11:40
ubottufonts-noto (source: fonts-noto): metapackage to pull in all Noto fonts. In component universe, is optional. Version 20161116-1 (artful), package size 3 kB, installed size 30 kB11:40
lotuspsychjeSCHAPiE: whats happening exactly?11:40
SCHAPiEmy ArchLinux install shows many more emoji (with colours also), compared to noto-fonts on Ubuntu 17.10 (many missing emoji, no colours)11:41
SCHAPiEboth using Google's Noto fonts11:42
SCHAPiEbut on Ubuntu the font is incomplete and/or outdated11:42
SCHAPiEand I wonder why11:42
mitmfConnection reset by 192.168.8.44 port 22   <———— what is problem?11:44
lotuspsychjeSCHAPiE: perhaps not the same version as on arch?11:45
SCHAPiElotuspsychje: clearly not, indeed11:45
lotuspsychje!latest | SCHAPiE this is why11:46
ubottuSCHAPiE this is why: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.11:46
SCHAPiEstability, with a font.... doesn't make sense to me, tbh11:46
SCHAPiEi don't see why a font's package wouldn't be updated, in this scheme11:46
lotuspsychjeSCHAPiE: well if you find a bug on it, place a new !bug?11:46
SCHAPiEit's not a bug, it's just a massively outdated version with a stone-age lit of emoji11:47
SCHAPiE*list11:47
lotuspsychjeSCHAPiE: bugs can also contain a new idea right11:47
lotuspsychjeSCHAPiE: but in your case they might say, its already in a newer version?11:47
SCHAPiEi'll install it manually in ~/.fonts then, i don't see any other viable options11:48
SCHAPiElast time i'm using Ubuntu for my work machine, next install will be one that keeps fonts updated11:49
lotuspsychjeSCHAPiE: its your system, you can install anything you want..but we dont recommend mixing packages11:50
SCHAPiEi can imagine aiming for stability with non-font-packages, sure11:51
SCHAPiElet's say, things that contain actual code11:51
SCHAPiEbut with regard to fonts, it makes no sense whatsoever to stick with an old version11:51
hateballSCHAPiE: You can mail the mailing list and ask why it's not properly maintained I guess11:52
lotuspsychjeSCHAPiE: if you need newer/older package versions play with another ubuntu version, i see 18.04 got a newer one11:52
SCHAPiEemoji developments are speeding up, and this package here is lagging behind in a big way, in 17.10, the latest stable version11:52
lotuspsychjeSCHAPiE: also have you tested this on an LTS version to compare?11:52
SCHAPiEyeah, i saw that as well, but 18.04 isn't stable yet11:53
adrian_1908Aren't colored emoji a feature of applications, rather than fonts?11:53
SCHAPiEadrian_1908: nope, it's a font feature11:53
lotuspsychjeSCHAPiE: can you recall wich version you had on arch?11:54
adrian_1908SCHAPiE: do the fonts themselves container colored vector graphics, or how does it work?11:55
adrian_1908*contain11:55
SCHAPiEadrian_1908: https://unicode.org/emoji/charts/full-emoji-list.html11:56
adrian_1908I always though that fonts are monochrome and clients replace codepoints with their own set of graphics.11:56
adrian_1908*thought (tired, sorry)11:56
SCHAPiEit's simple; on ArchLinux i can use a significantly large part of those; on Ubuntu, many are lacking and all of them are in black/white11:56
SCHAPiEwith the version from apt11:56
lotuspsychjeSCHAPiE: you sure arch doesnt have an additional package installed or so that covers that?11:58
lotuspsychjeSCHAPiE: can you doublecheck apt-cache search fonts-noto to see?11:59
SCHAPiElotuspsychje: ah, i found the cause12:04
TsakNorrisI have verbatim usb-stick what has write protection. How i can format it? mount and df shows path for it, but fdisk and gparted can't find it because its secured some how12:04
SCHAPiE17.10 still lacks cairo >1.15.8 and fontconfig >2.12.512:05
SCHAPiEtherefore it's impossible to do colour emoji12:05
SCHAPiEthanks lotuspsychje, for convincing me to search better :p12:05
lotuspsychje!yay | SCHAPiE12:06
ubottuSCHAPiE: Glad you made it! :-)12:06
SCHAPiElotuspsychje: still does not change my feelings i have towards not being able to use proper emoji in 17.10... but oh well, it is what it is.12:07
SCHAPiEi use emoji in my i3status/i3bar to function as icons/pictograms12:08
mitmfConnection reset by 192.168.8.44 port 22  <———— what is problem?12:12
TsakNorrisi have this same problem. some how verbatim has secured it. there isn't anything inside i just want to format it to be normal stick.12:12
TsakNorrishttps://askubuntu.com/questions/457081/how-can-i-use-a-verbatim-securengo-usb-key12:12
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Rockwoodinternet breaking after few mints12:12
Rockwoodi am facing internet disconnection issue on my ubuntu.12:16
YounderThen how are you herse?12:16
Younderhere12:16
lotuspsychje!details | Rockwood12:17
ubottuRockwood: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.12:17
lotuspsychjeTsakNorris: can you tail -f /var/log/syslog when plug out/plug in your usb, to see whats going on?12:18
mitmfConnection reset by 192.168.8.44 port 22  <———— what is problem?12:19
alocergvfs-monitor lotuspsychje12:19
TsakNorrislotuspsychje: this is tricky usb thing from verbatim i have to say. Yes i can see how linux will mount it to /dev/r1 but i can't do anything to it12:19
lotuspsychjemitmf: we cant guess symptons without all details12:19
lotuspsychjealocer: ?12:20
mitmfyou means that you are starter?12:20
mitmflotuspsychje: ?12:20
lotuspsychjemitmf: it means, we dont know what you are doing, on wich ubuntu version,details please12:20
lotuspsychjeTsakNorris: no write protection switch on the device?12:21
TsakNorrislotuspsychje: nope, no physical switch.12:22
lotuspsychjeTsakNorris: what does the tail say?12:24
TsakNorrislotuspsychje: when i mount it gparted or fdisk can't find it.12:25
TsakNorrislotuspsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26163214/12:25
hateballgoogling suggests it has some annoying firmware to handle that stuff, and that it's less of a headache to simple replace the device12:26
Younderhateball, bullshit12:29
lotuspsychjeYounder: keep language polite here please12:30
hateballYounder: That's nice12:30
TsakNorrislotuspsychje: Dec 11 14:30:16 boss udisksd[3212]: Mounted /dev/sr1 at /media/boss/SECUREDATAUSB on behalf of uid 100112:31
lotuspsychjeYounder: this channel is not used for discussion with other volunteers, if you have an idea to help, please reply to the asker12:31
lotuspsychjeTsakNorris: i think what hateball suggest will be the end of it, cant find more usefull neither12:32
lotuspsychjeTsakNorris: perhaps this tool from win or wine? http://u3-tool.sourceforge.net/12:34
TsakNorrislotuspsychje: hmmm i tested that already :Error opening device: Read-only file system12:35
lotuspsychjeTsakNorris: yeah ive seen errors pass on this tool also12:36
TsakNorrislotuspsychje: ok it's only 4GB stick. i will give this back to that guy. Can't help with it. i have more important work now :D but first coffee. Thank you anyway.12:37
lotuspsychjeTsakNorris: no sweat mate12:37
lotuspsychjeTsakNorris: i also reccomend the ##hardware channel and perhaps email verbatim for usefull format tool?12:39
Rockwoodmy ubuntu's internet connection making problem for me12:43
Rockwoodit is disconnecting automatically in ubuntu but working fine windows12:44
Rockwoodwhat should be cause of this12:44
lotuspsychjeRockwood: we cant help you without details mate: ubuntu version, wifi chipset? kernel version?12:44
Rockwoodping fine every time, just browsing stops12:45
lotuspsychjehey ioria12:45
Rockwoodi have ubuntu 16.0412:45
iorialotuspsychje, hi lotus how you doing ?12:45
lotuspsychjeRockwood: fully up to date?12:45
lotuspsychjeRockwood: sudo lshw -C network for wifi chipset12:46
Rockwoodlotuspsychje: updated yes12:46
Rockwoodlshw12:47
Rockwoodlotuspsychje: hardware lister (lshw) - B.02.1712:49
lotuspsychjeRockwood: hastebin.com the output of : sudo lshw -C network12:49
Rockwoodokay12:50
Rockwoodhttps://hastebin.com/conodiwefi.sql lotuspsychje12:53
lotuspsychjeRockwood: not good mate, you need type the exact command, not just lshw12:54
Rockwoodokay12:54
Rockwoodlotuspsychje: https://hastebin.com/ahilasivax.coffeescript12:56
Rockwoodhope right this time12:56
lotuspsychjeRockwood: yes good now, driver loaded okay...12:57
Rockwoodnow ?12:57
lotuspsychjeRockwood: lsb_release -a shows wich ubuntu version?12:57
Rockwoodokay12:58
Rockwoodlotuspsychje: https://hastebin.com/negihereyi.css12:59
lotuspsychjeRockwood: also looks good13:00
Rockwoodanymore maybe cause ?13:00
Rockwoodlotuspsychje:13:00
lotuspsychjeRockwood: i have to do dinner now, try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and switch OFF/ON your wifi please and hastebin all output13:00
lotuspsychjeRockwood: i read you bit later ok13:01
Rockwoodlotuspsychje: if you dont mind13:01
Rockwoodyou are from where ?13:01
Rockwoodi think we have almost same timezone13:01
Rockwood-f /var/log/syslog  only13:02
Rockwoodhttps://hastebin.com/acabuboceg.pl lotuspsychje13:06
Rockwoodhow to clear temp files in ubuntu ?13:09
Rockwoodcya friends13:10
Rockwoodi think help possibilities are less here13:11
akikRockwood: if you want to clear tmp files, look into /tmp and $HOME/.cache for them13:16
cedrahello13:22
cedraIs the 16.04 Release.gpg key expired13:22
akikRockwood: also the browser cache files will be in your home dir13:24
Rockwoodakik even my hexchat stops not only browser13:26
cedraW: Failed to fetch http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/jgeboski/xUbuntu_16.04/./Release.gpg  The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 150680434313:33
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alkisgcedra: Ubuntu is not related to opensuse, so you're using something that people here don't even know what it is13:41
acresearchpeople i have a question, i have a python script on my github, is there a way to run it from github instead of downloading it then running it?13:52
lapisdecoracresearch, not that I know13:54
acresearchlapisdecor: isn't there a curl command or something?13:55
lapisdecoracresearch, I think curl downloads the file, type man curl on a terminal13:56
acresearchlapisdecor: i see13:58
ChryzoGood morning,14:13
ChryzoI,ve been trying to split a csv file so that the first column value gets outputed in a file named based on the second value. I have been using: cat GeoIPCustom.csv | awk -F',' '{ print $1 >> $2".subnets" }'14:14
Chryzoissue is that I get bad characters in my $2 var and the filenames end being like this: VN?.subnets and fails midway14:15
ChryzoHow do I stri pthat character from my variable?14:15
ian5vhiya. i'd like to change an interface's mac address without taking down the interface. is this possible?14:24
lotuspsychje!info macchanger | not sure for the down part14:25
ubottunot sure for the down part: macchanger (source: macchanger): utility for manipulating the MAC address of network interfaces. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.7.0-5.3 (artful), package size 186 kB, installed size 677 kB (Only available for linux-any)14:25
lotuspsychjeian5v: ^14:26
ian5vmacchanger afaict requires knocking the interface down14:26
ian5vbeen playing with it a bit14:26
lotuspsychjeian5v: perhaps the ##networking guys might know of such a linux tool?14:27
ian5vi'll give em a shot!14:28
alkisgChryzo: is this a utf8 issue? How did that character get there?14:30
alkisgChryzo: what happens if you just print $2 to stdout, is that character there?14:31
Chryzoalkisg, I think it is the line return from the CSV file. If i just pring to stdout, the character is not there14:32
alkisgChryzo: what's the output of `file your-file.csv`? Does it say it has windows line endings?14:32
ChryzoGeoIPCustom.csv: UTF-8 Unicode (with BOM) text, with CRLF line terminators14:33
alkisgRight, it's a windows file14:33
alkisgSave it with normal, linux endings14:33
Chryzok, thanks14:33
lotuspsychje!yay | ian5v via ##networking14:33
ubottuian5v via ##networking: Glad you made it! :-)14:33
LilleCarlCan anyone explain why this part of interfaces config doesn't add the routes i'm asking it to add? https://gist.github.com/Lillecarl/d152e0f93405005ea2fd451f3364596814:38
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lotuspsychje!crosspost | LilleCarl14:40
ubottuLilleCarl: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support.14:40
daniel331hi all. How do I enable my laptop's built-in keyboard? atm it thinks its in tablet mode and I can't type anything!!14:41
LilleCarl@lotuspsychje Didn't know ##networking was an Ubuntu channel sorry =)14:41
lotuspsychjedaniel331: wich laptop is this?14:41
lotuspsychjeLilleCarl: are you on ubuntu?14:41
LilleCarlThe machine having trouble is Ubuntu 16.0414:41
LilleCarlIf that's what you're asking :)14:42
daniel331<lotuspsychje>: its an HP Spectre 360. good laptop otherwise.14:42
lotuspsychjeLilleCarl: okay14:42
lotuspsychjeLilleCarl: desktop or server?14:43
LilleCarl@lotuspsychje Server14:43
lotuspsychjeLilleCarl: you might wanan check #ubuntu-server they are used to it there14:43
LilleCarlOh thanks14:44
lotuspsychjenp14:44
LilleCarlI'm guessing it'll be a crosspost if i ask there too? Haha14:44
alkisgLilleCarl: it's ok if you do it when explicitly requested to ask elsewhere :)14:45
LilleCarlN1, thanks :)14:45
lotuspsychjedaniel331: some forums mentioning open/close lid brings keyboard back, can you try this for me?14:47
lotuspsychjedaniel331: also try the rotate, to see if it switched to tablet mode14:48
daniel331<lotuspsychje> I've had this laptop for about 2 years and this problem happens regularly. Opening and closing the lid is what has fixed it for me in the past. Today no joy though and the problem remains no matter how many times I open/close the lid14:49
lotuspsychjedaniel331: wich ubuntu version are you on mate?14:50
daniel331possibly some minor update has fucked things. I tried to run a screen rotation script and it said "Failed to change the screen configuration" when before I was able to rotate the screen fine14:50
daniel33116.0414:51
lotuspsychjedaniel331: up to date system to 16.04.3?14:51
daniel331yep14:51
lotuspsychjedaniel331: doesnt it rotate without the script?14:51
daniel331<lotuspsychje>: no. the accelermoter has never been recognized by linux. :-(14:52
lotuspsychjedaniel331: this what i found: http://academic.bancey.com/hp-spectre-x360-keyboard-turning-off-problem-solved/14:52
daniel331thank you14:52
daniel331hmm thats a good theory actually and useful information. i bet it would have worked for me before and i wish i'd known that earlier. but today it isn't working. :-(14:54
lotuspsychjedaniel331: perhaps a hp manual download could be usefull?14:57
lotuspsychjedaniel331: i also wonder what your syslog would do on a tail -f /var/log/syslog when turning device and lid open/close?14:58
lotuspsychjedaniel331: maybe we dealing with a weird acpi and its working on windows?14:58
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clabHello I'm having problem with xkbset to set the mouse keys, it always resets the setting16:57
GoldenHartHello17:05
dreadkopphey guys. xubuntu17.10 should run fine with Ryzen 1600X + GTX 1060, righty ?17:05
GoldenHartUbuntu 16.04 Issue. I have tried everything relating to my issue that I can find to this point. The other day I installed Oracle VirtualBox, and turned off my laptop after doing so. When it booted up again, the login screen froze and I have not been able to log in; this repeats each time I boot up.17:07
GoldenHartThrough recovery mode I uninstalled the virtualbox, but the problem persists17:08
alkisgGoldenHart: which desktop environment?17:14
alkisgUnity?17:14
bender|Hey guys17:17
GoldenHartAll I did, when I installed Ubuntu, was just get plain Ubuntu. I had no knowledge to do anything else. Desktop environment is foreign to me17:17
bender|So I installed Ubuntu 16.04 on an old machine (Core 2 Duo, 5 G RAM, Intel G45/43 chipset), I’m currently running GNOME on it, and it seems rather laggy. Animations are really awkward. Any suggestions?17:18
tonytbender do you have amd or nvidia's own video driver installed?17:19
tonytor intel. what ever video card you are using17:19
bender|Well I tried looking into the proprietary Drivers section17:20
bender|It says it’s using Intel microcode17:20
bender|This thing doesn’t have a discrete GPU17:20
tonytoh ok. that is the only thing i can htink of17:20
tonyt*think17:20
GoldenHartAnybody got any ideas for me? :317:22
bender|Is it expected on G45/43? I ran Windows 10 on this system without any UI-associated lag, although I had to separately install graphics drivers17:22
adamdelinuxbender| If it's an old machine, have you considered using Lubuntu? Much lighter than the full version.17:22
bender|glxgears also gives an average of 61 FPS17:22
bender|adamdelinux: I’m not using Unity, is GNOME a problem?17:23
adamdelinuxbender| GNOME version 3 is a bit heavier, I think, but that's all I can think of.17:24
GoldenHartUbuntu 16.04 Issue. I have tried everything relating to my issue that I can find to this point. The other day I installed Oracle VirtualBox, and turned off my laptop after doing so. When it booted up again, the login screen froze and I have not been able to log in; this repeats each time I boot up. Any help? VB was uninstalled and the problem persists.17:25
bender|GoldenHart: I’m doing the same thing man. Hunting for the ideal desktop environment17:25
GoldenHartI'm just trying to get to my desktop...lol17:26
GoldenHartA bit different17:26
adamdelinuxGoldenHart Do you have a live boot disk?17:26
bender|GoldenHart: Hm? Did you mean to say you uninstalled VirtualBox and then reinstalled it and tried to log in through the same system (as in the same VDI/VHD file)?17:26
bender|Wait. Are you running Ubuntu natively or inside VBox?17:27
GoldenHartNo, VB is uninstalled now. Uninstalled through recovery mode console17:27
GoldenHartNatively17:28
GoldenHartAnd live boot disk no I don't have17:28
akikbender|: mate desktop is much lighter on the system resources17:28
bender|Thanks I’ll look into that.17:28
akikbender|: and the lightest of ubuntu flavours, lubuntu17:29
adamdelinuxGoldenHart If you can get a copy of your OS onto a flash drive or CD, you can boot into it and do a live session.  Then you can at least access your files and back them up while you do repairs.17:29
adamdelinuxakik Using MATE myself... very good.17:30
bender|If you have an additional USB and a PC, you can create a recovery/install disc yourself17:30
GoldenHartSo, to search up how to do that on google, what would be my general search phrases?17:30
GoldenHartAnd no, all I have is a tablet at this point, outside of the laptop that is not working17:30
adamdelinuxTry "create ubuntu bootable usb"17:31
GoldenHartAlright sir. Will try17:31
adamdelinuxGoldenHart Oh... sorry about your laptop.  You can also purchase a flash drive or CD with the OS online.  Might take a few days to get it in the mail.17:31
bender|Hm, can you access the command line at least?17:32
adamdelinuxGoldenHart https://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=120617:32
bender|You did say you were able to uninstall VBox?17:32
GoldenHartRecovery mode allows me to do so17:32
purplepotatohoofdletterirchexchat17:33
adamdelinuxpurplepotato ??17:34
GoldenHartbender| yes I can17:34
mmturkany idea why mpv doesn't draw borders on ubuntu-desktop 17.10?17:44
mmturki also can't see the controls (forward, pause etc.)17:45
arvin_grab the gnome-mpv package (sudo apt install gnome-mpv) for a nice frontend to it17:46
mmturkwell i don't need/want a frontend17:46
arvin_i don't understand your issue17:49
arvin_either, $ mpv your-video-file17:49
arvin_or grab gnome-mpv17:49
mmturksee the screenshot: https://image.ibb.co/hbjLNw/Screenshot_from_2017_12_11_20_49_34.png17:50
PTNapivoskiWhy not VLC?17:53
theoceaniscoolSometimes I have to do network testing, and I change manually my ip with "ip addr add", but after some time, the interface looses its IP, how do I prevent that?17:54
oerheks"i don't want a front-end"..  if you drop a movie on it, you have controls17:54
PTNapivoskiK...17:55
ioriammturk, i think it's a  wayland thing17:57
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lordcirth_worktheoceaniscool, probably network manager is changing it.18:03
mmturkioria, thanks for pointing that out, using "opengl-backend=x11" fixes the problem18:04
ioriammturk, yeah, i was posting to you that : https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/mpv18:04
lordcirth_worktheoceaniscool, you could disable network manager and configure your normal network in /etc/network/interfaces.18:04
theoceaniscoollordcirth_work, It was my first idea, but I want my wifi adapter to be managed by NetworkManager18:05
ioriammturk, this exactly : https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/mpv#In_GNOME_Wayland18:05
lordcirth_worktheoceaniscool, I'm pretty sure there's a way to blacklist a specific interface in network manager18:06
theoceaniscoollordcirth_work, I'm searching18:06
theoceaniscoolhttps://askubuntu.com/questions/21914/how-can-i-make-networkmanager-ignore-my-wireless-card, in case anyone else needs it18:07
oerheksioria, on 17.04 mpv shown no controls either, unless you drop a movie into it18:07
oerheksgnome-mpv fixes that18:07
ioriaoerheks, ok18:08
theoceaniscoollordcirth_work, Thanks, it works perfectly18:08
lordcirth_worktheoceaniscool, good.18:09
clabhello can anyone help me with a bug in xkbset?18:12
oerheksclab, just ask, wait an see, and show us the bug report perhaps?18:20
claboerheks, the config always reset18:22
clabI use mouse keys with xkbset config18:23
clabearch on google and I don't have success, I think I'll have to configure it manually18:27
clabI just want to know where is hahah18:30
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megmanx9hi18:36
megmanx9i need to make my own proxy server and make anyone at www go from it i install squid and make my squid online via ngrok but i don't know if i should make some config to make all things work18:37
Popziany ideas on why i can run a service as sudo and it works, but not as root/systemd boot18:48
lordcirth_workPopzi, what service, and any error message when you try?18:50
Popzilordcirth_work: https://bpaste.net/show/c0a974a7d876 :P18:53
Popziworks fine if i run it as another user as sudo, but not root :\18:53
EriC^^Popzi: the environment must be different18:57
lordcirth_workPopzi, it doesn't work when su'ing to root after boot?18:57
lordcirth_workPopzi, looks like you should ask the author about it, though.18:57
Popzilordcirth_work: correct, doesnt work as root / systemd (am trying to get it to start on boot), but works for a sudo user18:58
EriC^^Popzi: does it work for sudo -H command_here ?18:58
PopziEriC^^: for user or root?18:59
EriC^^or sudo -i command_here ?18:59
EriC^^user18:59
EriC^^try sudo -i command_here18:59
PopziEriC^^: -H fails for user18:59
EriC^^Popzi: it must expect that $HOME is set to your username's home then19:00
Popzioh hang on it's decided it now wants to fail for user entirely if sudo'ing19:00
Popzi-H or -i must've done something19:00
PopziEriC^^: I'll look into homes :P thanks19:01
PopziEriC^^: actually, it does depend on the usb drive being mounted, in order to read a config file on it, perhaps this may be the issue19:03
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EriC^^Popzi: try in the systemd file ExecStart=/bin/bash -c 'HOME=/home/user ExecStart=/bin/uwsgi --ini /home/user/EXHDD_NTFS/PlexDownloader/config/config.ini'19:06
EriC^^typo, ExecStart=/bin/bash -c 'HOME=/home/user /bin/uwsgi --ini /home/user/EXHDD_NTFS/PlexDownloader/config/config.ini'19:07
Popzirighto19:07
Popzinice idea19:07
EriC^^Popzi: same for ExecStop=/bin/bash -c 'HOME=/home/user /bin/uwsgi --stop /run/uwsgi-emperor.pid'19:08
EriC^^Popzi: do you need plex to run as root btw?19:08
Popzino I've not sorted plex out yet :P19:08
EriC^^maybe you have to let it run as your user or something, better consult the docs on these kind of stuff19:09
Popzimm same error even with bash19:12
Popziuwsgi is horrible19:12
EriC^^Popzi: https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/200288586-Installation19:14
EriC^^what's that19:14
PopziEriC^^: none of this is plex related yet :P19:14
EriC^^oh19:14
EriC^^you know the drill :P19:14
EriC^^what is uwsgi anyways?19:15
Popzipart of a webserver stack, im using it to run a python framework (Flask) as a website - http://uwsgi-docs.readthedocs.io/ documentation goes on for lightyears19:15
Popzia very annoying and buggy program to deal with, nightmare19:16
EriC^^how did you install it? ubuntu repos?19:16
Popziyea19:16
Popziwell19:17
Popziinstalling it is a mess it's self.19:17
Popziinstalled it through pip, installed through repo's, and installed python plugins to get it to somewhat work, it took me all day to just get it to work with python (like it's supposed to.)19:17
Popzii might try and see if i can just get it to launch on boot via upstart instead :\19:18
EriC^^did you try journalctl -xn ?19:19
PopziEriC^^: it has nothing related to the service in it lol19:20
Popziimma try copying my works uwsgi service actually, that uses a different exec command19:21
maestrojedI've asked about this in #linux a few weeks ago. If I am annoying just tell me, but I am still stuck. I use vagrant and my VM's OS is Ubuntu14. Some directories/files are being treated as if they do not exist. But they do. Assume a problematic directory modules/taxonomy/. if I list the parent directory, "ls -al modules/", that problematic directory does not appear in the list, as if it is missing. But if I list the actual problematic19:26
maestrojed directory, "ls -al modules/taxonomy/" it and its contents are listed, as if they exist. Example: https://gist.github.com/maestrojed/4b784672b1b79dd3268c7da5b394e92719:26
lordcirth_workmaestrojed, is there any bind mounting / autofs / anything funny like that?19:28
alkisgMaybe run an offline fsck? :)19:30
maestrojedlordcirth_work maybe! Getting a little outside my knowledge zone. But these ubuntu boxes are running in vagrant. The directories or files affected have so far always been in the vagrant_synced_folders path. So a path shared between guest and host.19:30
maestrojedwhen I look at the files on the host machine, they look normal and can be listed on the CLI. The host machine is OSX19:30
lordcirth_workmaestrojed, It's possible the syncing is buggy19:30
maestrojedThese files are also version controlled with Git which shows no changes.19:30
alkisgWhat's the file system that's reported inside the VM?19:31
alkisgIs it ext4?19:31
maestrojedlordcirth_work yeah, It is quite the coincidence. But once that VM is running, seems I should be able to solve this from a Linux POV? no?19:31
maestrojedalkisg let me check19:31
lordcirth_workmaestrojed, is vagrant mounting the host folder in, or just copying at startup?19:31
maestrojedalkisg  I believe its NTS19:32
maestrojedlordcirth_work I believe mounting, as typically changes made in one system are realized in the other19:33
lordcirth_workmaestrojed, yeah, I bet that's the problem.  Did you mean NTFS?19:34
maestrojedI have tried so much, I am not sure if its worth listing the stuff. But I can move, remove, touch, edit, change permissions, ownership, etc. on these files. But they still behave this odd way.19:34
lordcirth_workmaestrojed, and if you copy the whole tree somewhere local in the VM, does it behave properly there?19:35
maestrojedlordcirth_work This is how I determined NTS https://gist.github.com/maestrojed/30fa7c9299e7721296e97825467ab4fb19:36
maestrojedlordcirth_work  I will try!19:36
lordcirth_workthats NFS19:36
maestrojedSo sorry!19:37
torontoyesdoes anyone know how to prepare the windows image to work with MAAS?  is there any documentation for this?  I don't really see much19:40
maestrojedOk, I copied the entire tree. That problematic directory was not copied.19:41
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maestrojedFYI, I can copy the problematic directory specifically. "cp -Rf /var/www/docroot/modules/taxonomy/ ~/debug/". The directory is copied and I can list it at its new location.19:44
PopziEriC^^: lol, fixed it, made a bash script to wait 30 secs, and run a systemctl start command as the 'user' user, and just added that to run on a @reboot cron for either user since the script works on both... hacky fixes ftw19:47
EriC^^:D19:48
torontoyesjoin #juju19:55
erdaveHello, I have installed postgresql 9.4 from snap, but I don't know how to execute it. It drops the following error:19:58
erdavecreatedb: could not connect to database template1: could not connect to server: No such file or directory19:58
erdaveIs the server running locally and accepting19:58
erdaveconnections on Unix domain socket "/tmp/.s.PGSQL.5432"?19:58
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snkcldwhere would i find the wayland logs?20:39
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DeeJayTwoHi, I have an strange issue... as soon as I'm connecting a storage device to any of my USB ports, my wireless mouse and keyboards aren't working anymore.21:00
DeeJayTwoHmm... I think I've found the reason for my problem...: http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/whitepapers/327216.pdf21:11
DeeJayTwoUSB3 is leaking RF in 2.4 Ghz and breaks communications between my usb antenna and my keyboard/mouse...21:11
tubalHello. I'm trying to figure out the following... it has worked before. ...21:15
tubalecho 7 | sudo tee  > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness21:15
tubalbash: /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness: Permission denied21:15
tubalD'oh! Just saw it... the errant > . Duh.21:16
tubalAnyway, as you might have guessed, I'm having trouble getting backlight to work properly with 27.20/Gnome. Up to 17.04, backlight-vendor in grub.conf worked. not anymore. Booting with "acpi_osi=" gets backlight to respond to the kb, but not to gui controls. Does anyone  know any other approaches?21:22
tubals/27.20/17.10/21:24
TJ-tubal: what's in the sysfs nodes for class/backlight/21:34
tubalTJ: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26166117/21:37
TJ-tubal: do both allow you to control the brightness manually?21:37
tubalTJ: By manually, do you mean with the kb buttons?21:38
TJ-tubal: no, by echoing the value to the brightness node21:38
tubalOnly backlight=vendor did so. Current boot, with acpi=osi, I have the kb, but not the fs.21:39
tubalNeither allowed for gui controls.21:39
TJ-tubal: you can test with something similar to: echo 6 | sudo dd of=/sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness21:42
TJ-tubal: you can get the maximum allowed value with cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness21:42
snkcldim on ubuntu 17.10, and id like to disable "tap to click", but it doesnt show up under the "mouse and touchpad" settings21:43
TJ-tubal: if one of the nodes under class/backlight does NOT change the backlight my guess would be the GUI has bound to that one21:43
tubalTJ: The dd line had no effect. So, by the logic of your last line, you're saying the GUI controls should respond to /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video_0 ?21:47
TJ-tubal: my hypothesis is that one of those two backlight device nodes doesn't actually work, but the GUI has found it first and bound to it21:48
TJ-tubal: if you can't change the brightness using  acpi_video/brightness but can using intel_backlight/brightness, it would suggest the GUI is trying to use acpi_video021:49
tubalecho 300 | sudo dd of=/sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness21:49
tubalThat line did what you'd expect.21:49
tubalSo, your hypothesis is the GUI is trying acpi_video0. So, based on that, how do I get it to actually do so?21:51
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soeeif i reinstall system without formatting / partition than all mysql databases or data under /var/www will be lost ?21:51
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PTNapivoskisrgjames: Difference of microtime in the beggining and at the end o script?21:57
PTNapivoskioops...21:57
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TJ-tubal: what's on the kernel command-line? do you also have acpi_backlight=vendor ?22:01
pointydripHello I am having trouble repairing grub from a live usb22:05
pointydripam I at the right channel for help?22:06
p0aHello I've removed firefox with apt-remove but I still get updates on language packs & chromium stuff. How can I completely remove the firefox virus from my system?22:08
pointydripI am on natty and tried using boot repair from a live USB but I got an error, I am now on chroot to sda1 but it says grub-pc has not installation candidate and unable to locate package grub-common22:10
pointydripI'm stuck with no bootloader....22:10
adrian_1908p0a: try `sudo apt purge firefox && sudo apt autoremove`22:10
macgeek312I have a weird question...is there a way to move /run off of tmpfs and have it just be a normal directory?22:10
macgeek312I haven't been able to figure out where it even gets mounted to adjust the size or anything22:11
p0aadrian_1908: what's autoremove?22:13
p0aadrian_1908: It's going to remove a bunch of linux-headers* and linux-image* files22:14
adrian_1908p0a: it removes old dependencies that are no longer needed, among them packages that came in with now-uninstalled software.22:14
p0aadrian_1908: well that's a whole GB of data! nice22:15
p0aadrian_1908: thank you22:15
adrian_1908p0a: Since you say you're still getting updates for stuff you don't want, that might be an option. Otherwise, nothing from firefox should "stick around".22:15
adrian_1908np22:15
pointydripIs anyone able to help me get my bootloader back?22:15
p0ayeah I get language packs and ffmpeg stuff for chromium22:16
tomreyn!natty | pointydrip22:16
ubottupointydrip: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) was the fourteenth release of Ubuntu. !End-Of-Life on 2012-10-28, see https://ubottu.com/y/natty for details.22:16
p0aanyhow we'll see now22:16
pointydriptomreyn: ya I know... but I need to retreive stuff from it22:16
tomreynyou'd better just backup and reinstall22:17
tubalTJ: "acpi_osi="22:17
tomreyn!eolupgrade | pointydrip22:17
ubottupointydrip: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades22:17
tomreynpointydrip: ^ this is the other option, but i guess with a system that opuutdated, a reinstall is a *much* better option.22:18
tubalFYI: Anyone having trouble running gufw, gparted or other GUI apps requiring  root privs, see fix at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/backintime/+bug/1713313/comments/322:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1713313 in xdiagnose (Ubuntu) "Unable to launch pkexec'ed applications on Wayland session" [Undecided,Confirmed]22:18
pointydripI'll try to reinstall ...and come back if I can't get anything off it22:19
tomreynpointydrip: so just boot from some live media, mount the file systems of the old installation, backup data, install current ubuntu, restore data22:19
pointydriptomreyn: K thx I'll try that22:20
TJ-tubal: you should have/try acpi_backlight=vendor in addition to any acpi_osi= options22:20
tubalTJ: So, *both*? I will try  that.22:20
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TJ-tubal: they're entirely different options22:21
tubalTJ: Got it. :) Thanks. Will report back when I reboot.22:22
CarlFKhow do I zero out grub so I can verify that my installer is installing it? (3 drives, sda,b,c are moving around on me...)22:41
CarlFK something like dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bc=10022:41
CarlFKit's ok if I break the partition table and everything else too22:41
pavlosCarlFK: I think you need to write 512 bytes22:44
TJ-CarlFK: Depends on whether its BIOS or UEFI, and whether the disk label is MBR or GPT22:45
CarlFKTJ-: bios.  not sure the 2nd - how about i do both?22:45
TJ-CarlFK: if you're wanting to zap the MBR boot-strap then something like  "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdZ bs=442 count=1"22:46
CarlFKautomated install should rebuild from whatever broken state things are in22:46
gsilvaptHello all. A friend of my who hasn't updated his personal wiki page since 2014. He wants to update it now but it says page immutable for him but I can edit it. Any suggestions about what is happening here=22:46
gsilvapts/=/?22:46
TJ-CarlFK: if it's GPT the GRUB core image will be in a small BIOS Boot Partition (around 1MB size, which gdisk etc shows as type EF02)22:46
CarlFKgsilvapt: if you dont' hear anything here,  try /j #launchpad (probably not the right place, but maybe closer)22:47
gsilvaptThanks, CarlFK22:48
pavlosgsilvapt: my page reads immutable but after I login with my lp account, I can edit my page. Could your friend do the same?23:01
gsilvaptpavlos, he is logged in. All pages display as immutable23:02
TJ-gsilvapt: has he logged in afresh or relying on a stored cookie from a previous session?23:03
gsilvaptTJ-, he also cleaned cookies before experiencing this issue and still maintained.23:03
TJ-gsilvapt: maybe the browser is blocking some resources?23:04
gsilvaptI have no idea. He was inactive for 3 years, I thought that was somehow relate23:04
gsilvaptd*23:05
pavlosgsilvapt: check that his LP account is ok, then he should be able to edit23:06
gsilvaptpavlos, please tell me if there's anything out place as I am not seeing what: https://launchpad.net/~tiagopolicarpo23:07
TJ-gsilvapt: can he see his user account preferences in the Wiki?23:08
gsilvaptYes, he does23:08
pavlosgsilvapt: looks good23:09
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gsilvaptEverything seems in place, I can't understand what is going on23:09
TJ-gsilvapt: do you/he have ubuntu-wiki-editors membership?23:13
gsilvaptTJ-, he doesn't nor I didn't23:13
gsilvaptAnd I can edit pretty much all wiki pages, lol x)23:13
TJ-gsilvapt: are you an Ubuntu member?23:14
gsilvaptI am, he isn't23:14
gsilvaptWell, he was a long time ago23:14
gsilvaptBut you don't need membership to edit Wiki Pages23:15
CarlFKthis will work, but is there a better way?  like some  /sys/proc list of block devices?23:16
TJ-gsilvapt: I think you do now, due to the spam. Check in #canonical-admin23:17
TJ-gsilvapt: his page is immutable to me also23:18
gsilvaptTJ-, you are not a member?23:18
TJ-gsilvapt: correct23:18
gsilvaptHum, ok, I see. That's consistent than23:18
TJ-gsilvapt: according to this its the ubuntu-wiki-editor membership requirement: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Forums/Membership#Create_a_Wiki_page23:20
CarlFKgsilvapt: my wiki page is also Immutable - huh.23:22
gsilvaptWell, I asked him to join this team and see what goes from there23:22
gsilvaptThanks for the help anyways, CarlFK and TJ-23:29

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