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defenderoffreedohey anyone here?04:42
defenderoffreedoso i am installing lubuntu right now04:42
defenderoffreedoi have a 500GB hard disk where i just installed windows 10 on a 80GB volume04:42
defenderoffreedocreated a 4GB partition (from the windows 10 setup) for swap04:42
defenderoffreedoas the RAM is 4GB04:42
defenderoffreedoand the rest of the space is for lubuntu04:43
defenderoffreedonow should i go for ext4 or ext3 for the main lubuntu space?04:43
tsimonq2ext404:43
tsimonq2ex3 is really outdated04:43
tsimonq2*ext304:43
defenderoffreedodo i have to format it?04:44
tsimonq2Plus, swap partitions aren't really recommended anymore over a certain amount of RAM and can even be insecure04:44
defenderoffreedowhat do i select as the mount point?04:44
tsimonq2I'd *personally put /home on a separate parition then / as the main one, but for your setup you should be fine putting / in one partition04:45
tsimonq2Yes, I'd format it04:45
defenderoffreedoi heard that the swap partition needs to be the size of the RAM if hibernation feature is required04:45
defenderoffreedowhat's the benefit of putting /home on a separate partition?04:45
tsimonq2Hibernation has been disabled as a security measure for a few releases now04:45
tsimonq2If you're doing a fair bit of development it makes sure that if you have a lot of files in /home that your system is still usable if that fills up, plus you can easily do a reinstall and still have all your settings04:46
defenderoffreedohmmm i think that sounds like a good idea, how do i put /home separately? another partition?04:47
tsimonq2Yep, just another partition04:48
defenderoffreedowhat sizes do you recommend for the partition?04:52
tsimonq2I also do this on my systems, although on some systems with little RAM it isn't a good idea: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2016/01/data-driven-analysis-tmp-on-tmpfs.html04:52
defenderoffreedoi have like 420GB in total for lubuntu04:52
tsimonq2Whatever you feel comfortable with :) I'd usually put 50-100 GB for /home and the rest on /04:52
defenderoffreedoand as for swap, it is now recommended to not have the swap partition at all?04:52
tsimonq2Right04:52
tsimonq2If you really want swap, this is the most secure way to do it: https://askubuntu.com/a/248558/33482904:52
defenderoffreedowhat exactly is the security risk? that someone might be able to copy the swap contents and access everything on the RAM?04:52
defenderoffreedoalso, what do i choose in "Device for boot loaded installation04:53
defenderoffreedo"?04:53
defenderoffreedois it /dev/sda? or the partition where i will install lubuntu (/dev/sda4) or the windows 10 partition (/dev/sda1)?04:55
tsimonq2defenderoffreedo: Yep, someone can read the swap contentsp05:03
tsimonq2Yeah /dev/sda05:04
defenderoffreedook it's installing now05:07
defenderoffreedoi have lubuntu on one other machine where i was testing it and need to uninstall it there05:07
defenderoffreedonow lubuntu has the boot loader05:07
defenderoffreedoso if i remove the lubuntu partition from windows, what will happen?05:08
defenderoffreedowhat will be the way to remove the lubuntu partition and just make it windows safely?05:08
defenderoffreedoany idea?05:10
lubot<tsimonq2> wxl? ^^^^05:13
wxltl;dr tsimonq2 ?05:14
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl, Dual boot Windows and Lubuntu05:14
lubot<tsimonq2> Partitioning05:14
lubot<tsimonq2> Fwd from defenderoffreedo: <defenderoffreedo> so if i remove the lubuntu partition from windows, what will happen?05:14
lubot<tsimonq2> Fwd from defenderoffreedo: <defenderoffreedo> what will be the way to remove the lubuntu partition and just make it windows safely?05:14
lubot<tsimonq2> :)05:14
wxlwell afaik windows needs to be on there first05:14
wxlwindows is real greedy05:15
wxlassuming the file system can handle expansion, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to grow after removing a partition05:15
defenderoffreedoso i boot into windows, remove the lubuntu partition, format it to ntfs or something, and it should be okay?05:16
wxland if it's uefi.. sheesh i don't know05:16
wxli don't do windows05:16
defenderoffreedowhat happens after it boots?05:16
defenderoffreedoanyway i finished installing lubuntu on this other machine05:17
* wxl shrugs05:17
defenderoffreedoit said installation finish you can restart05:17
defenderoffreedobut on booting... windows 10 loads again05:18
defenderoffreedono option to go to lubuntu05:18
wxlah yeah05:18
wxlwelcome to uefi mode05:18
wxlyou ideally wanted to have them set up with the same boot options05:18
wxlyou basically have two options for booting:05:18
wxl 1. uefi boot05:18
wxl 2. legacy boot05:18
wxlit sounds like you have the former, but probably installed lubuntu as the latter05:19
wxlwhich means you'll need to toggle bios settings when you load up each OS05:19
wxlhttps://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/how-do-i-install-ubuntu-alongside-a-pre-installed-windows-with-uefi05:19
defenderoffreedoit's an old machine, like 5 to 7 years old desktop so might not be uefi05:19
wxlread that. they know a lot more than i do05:19
wxlas i said, i don't do windows05:20
defenderoffreedoi used this tool called easyBCD and now i'm booting into lubuntu05:44
defenderoffreedoit showed me the lubuntu boot loader05:45
defenderoffreedoand now i just see a black screen and the mouse cursor05:45
defenderoffreedois it loading?05:45
defenderoffreedoit worked fine with the live usb boot05:45
defenderoffreedobooted really really fast05:46
defenderoffreedoinstalling on harddisk, i just see a blank screen05:46
defenderoffreedorebooting05:47
defenderoffreedolooks like i'm in!05:48
defenderoffreedoyay!05:48
defenderoffreedoi see the desktop but it's not responding :(05:48
defenderoffreedothe mouse cursor is moving but nothing happens if i click anywhere05:49
defenderoffreedoany idea what could be going on?05:50
defenderoffreedoit worked perfectly from the live usb05:50
defenderoffreedorestarted again and it seems to be working but there seems to be some glitches with the graphics05:56
defenderoffreedo...and it's stuck again05:57
arktvrvshai question.  menu > other is full of duplicates from other categories.  i dont know how it got there or if it was always there, but how do i fix it.?08:42
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fishcookerwhat did happen here http://vpaste.net/lsFnP15:04
arktvrvshi, how do i fix or rebuild the menu? all my sound/video apps are duplicated in "Other" menu and theres wayyy to many thing to sift through.  Also those generic ones like Xman, can i get rid of those?15:52
leszekarktvrvs: you can install a menu editor like alacarte to edit the menu15:54
arktvrvsthanks, or I can use pcmanfm.  I mainly want to know why/how it is trashed and how to prevent this in the future15:57
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chrisrlinkhey having issues connecting my ps3 sixaxis via bluetooth in 17.0423:52
chrisrlinkanyone willing to help23:53
ibmr50e-sylwekyo23:53
ibmr50e-sylwekyou using bluetoothctl?23:53
chrisrlinklol hang on i think it's working forgot to connect it via usb first23:56
chrisrlinklet me configure my emulator now23:57
chrisrlinkyeah it works sorry23:59

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