[04:42] <defenderoffreedo> hey anyone here?
[04:42] <defenderoffreedo> so i am installing lubuntu right now
[04:42] <defenderoffreedo> i have a 500GB hard disk where i just installed windows 10 on a 80GB volume
[04:42] <defenderoffreedo> created a 4GB partition (from the windows 10 setup) for swap
[04:42] <defenderoffreedo> as the RAM is 4GB
[04:43] <defenderoffreedo> and the rest of the space is for lubuntu
[04:43] <defenderoffreedo> now should i go for ext4 or ext3 for the main lubuntu space?
[04:43] <tsimonq2> ext4
[04:43] <tsimonq2> ex3 is really outdated
[04:43] <tsimonq2> *ext3
[04:44] <defenderoffreedo> do i have to format it?
[04:44] <tsimonq2> Plus, swap partitions aren't really recommended anymore over a certain amount of RAM and can even be insecure
[04:44] <defenderoffreedo> what do i select as the mount point?
[04:45] <tsimonq2> I'd *personally put /home on a separate parition then / as the main one, but for your setup you should be fine putting / in one partition
[04:45] <tsimonq2> Yes, I'd format it
[04:45] <defenderoffreedo> i heard that the swap partition needs to be the size of the RAM if hibernation feature is required
[04:45] <defenderoffreedo> what's the benefit of putting /home on a separate partition?
[04:45] <tsimonq2> Hibernation has been disabled as a security measure for a few releases now
[04:46] <tsimonq2> If you're doing a fair bit of development it makes sure that if you have a lot of files in /home that your system is still usable if that fills up, plus you can easily do a reinstall and still have all your settings
[04:47] <defenderoffreedo> hmmm i think that sounds like a good idea, how do i put /home separately? another partition?
[04:48] <tsimonq2> Yep, just another partition
[04:52] <defenderoffreedo> what sizes do you recommend for the partition?
[04:52] <tsimonq2> I also do this on my systems, although on some systems with little RAM it isn't a good idea: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2016/01/data-driven-analysis-tmp-on-tmpfs.html
[04:52] <defenderoffreedo> i have like 420GB in total for lubuntu
[04:52] <tsimonq2> Whatever you feel comfortable with :) I'd usually put 50-100 GB for /home and the rest on /
[04:52] <defenderoffreedo> and as for swap, it is now recommended to not have the swap partition at all?
[04:52] <tsimonq2> Right
[04:52] <tsimonq2> If you really want swap, this is the most secure way to do it: https://askubuntu.com/a/248558/334829
[04:52] <defenderoffreedo> what exactly is the security risk? that someone might be able to copy the swap contents and access everything on the RAM?
[04:53] <defenderoffreedo> also, what do i choose in "Device for boot loaded installation
[04:53] <defenderoffreedo> "?
[04:55] <defenderoffreedo> is it /dev/sda? or the partition where i will install lubuntu (/dev/sda4) or the windows 10 partition (/dev/sda1)?
[05:03] <tsimonq2> defenderoffreedo: Yep, someone can read the swap contentsp
[05:04] <tsimonq2> Yeah /dev/sda
[05:07] <defenderoffreedo> ok it's installing now
[05:07] <defenderoffreedo> i have lubuntu on one other machine where i was testing it and need to uninstall it there
[05:07] <defenderoffreedo> now lubuntu has the boot loader
[05:08] <defenderoffreedo> so if i remove the lubuntu partition from windows, what will happen?
[05:08] <defenderoffreedo> what will be the way to remove the lubuntu partition and just make it windows safely?
[05:10] <defenderoffreedo> any idea?
 wxl? ^^^^
[05:14] <wxl> tl;dr tsimonq2 ?
 @wxl, Dual boot Windows and Lubuntu
 Partitioning
 Fwd from defenderoffreedo: <defenderoffreedo> so if i remove the lubuntu partition from windows, what will happen?
 Fwd from defenderoffreedo: <defenderoffreedo> what will be the way to remove the lubuntu partition and just make it windows safely?
 :)
[05:14] <wxl> well afaik windows needs to be on there first
[05:15] <wxl> windows is real greedy
[05:15] <wxl> assuming the file system can handle expansion, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to grow after removing a partition
[05:16] <defenderoffreedo> so i boot into windows, remove the lubuntu partition, format it to ntfs or something, and it should be okay?
[05:16] <wxl> and if it's uefi.. sheesh i don't know
[05:16] <wxl> i don't do windows
[05:16] <defenderoffreedo> what happens after it boots?
[05:17] <defenderoffreedo> anyway i finished installing lubuntu on this other machine
[05:17]  * wxl shrugs
[05:17] <defenderoffreedo> it said installation finish you can restart
[05:18] <defenderoffreedo> but on booting... windows 10 loads again
[05:18] <defenderoffreedo> no option to go to lubuntu
[05:18] <wxl> ah yeah
[05:18] <wxl> welcome to uefi mode
[05:18] <wxl> you ideally wanted to have them set up with the same boot options
[05:18] <wxl> you basically have two options for booting:
[05:18] <wxl>  1. uefi boot
[05:18] <wxl>  2. legacy boot
[05:19] <wxl> it sounds like you have the former, but probably installed lubuntu as the latter
[05:19] <wxl> which means you'll need to toggle bios settings when you load up each OS
[05:19] <wxl> https://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/how-do-i-install-ubuntu-alongside-a-pre-installed-windows-with-uefi
[05:19] <defenderoffreedo> it's an old machine, like 5 to 7 years old desktop so might not be uefi
[05:19] <wxl> read that. they know a lot more than i do
[05:20] <wxl> as i said, i don't do windows
[05:44] <defenderoffreedo> i used this tool called easyBCD and now i'm booting into lubuntu
[05:45] <defenderoffreedo> it showed me the lubuntu boot loader
[05:45] <defenderoffreedo> and now i just see a black screen and the mouse cursor
[05:45] <defenderoffreedo> is it loading?
[05:45] <defenderoffreedo> it worked fine with the live usb boot
[05:46] <defenderoffreedo> booted really really fast
[05:46] <defenderoffreedo> installing on harddisk, i just see a blank screen
[05:47] <defenderoffreedo> rebooting
[05:48] <defenderoffreedo> looks like i'm in!
[05:48] <defenderoffreedo> yay!
[05:48] <defenderoffreedo> i see the desktop but it's not responding :(
[05:49] <defenderoffreedo> the mouse cursor is moving but nothing happens if i click anywhere
[05:50] <defenderoffreedo> any idea what could be going on?
[05:50] <defenderoffreedo> it worked perfectly from the live usb
[05:56] <defenderoffreedo> restarted again and it seems to be working but there seems to be some glitches with the graphics
[05:57] <defenderoffreedo> ...and it's stuck again
[08:42] <arktvrvs> hai question.  menu > other is full of duplicates from other categories.  i dont know how it got there or if it was always there, but how do i fix it.?
[15:04] <fishcooker> what did happen here http://vpaste.net/lsFnP
[15:52] <arktvrvs> hi, how do i fix or rebuild the menu? all my sound/video apps are duplicated in "Other" menu and theres wayyy to many thing to sift through.  Also those generic ones like Xman, can i get rid of those?
[15:54] <leszek> arktvrvs: you can install a menu editor like alacarte to edit the menu
[15:57] <arktvrvs> thanks, or I can use pcmanfm.  I mainly want to know why/how it is trashed and how to prevent this in the future
[23:52] <chrisrlink> hey having issues connecting my ps3 sixaxis via bluetooth in 17.04
[23:53] <chrisrlink> anyone willing to help
[23:53] <ibmr50e-sylwek> yo
[23:53] <ibmr50e-sylwek> you using bluetoothctl?
[23:56] <chrisrlink> lol hang on i think it's working forgot to connect it via usb first
[23:57] <chrisrlink> let me configure my emulator now
[23:59] <chrisrlink> yeah it works sorry