=== Map is now known as daft [00:17] TJ: So I just rebooted with the two parameters we discussed. Same outcome, though: no GUI controls. [00:56] Hey all :) [00:56] Is it possible to read a pipe and save it to a file ? [00:56] I.e. "while [ 1 ]; do cat ~/myfifo 2>&1 | tee file.txt done" appends to a file [00:57] but why ? [01:00] Anyone ? [01:19] Doesnt append on my end, actually overwrites [01:19] That command at least [01:20] you'd append the output of that command by making it tee -a [01:20] if that's what you're asking [01:21] https://askubuntu.com/questions/420981/how-do-i-save-terminal-output-to-a-file [01:21] Second response has a table of outputs you might find useful [01:26] can we all please file a bug in thunar? [01:32] hi, is here a good channel to ask about compiling a kernel? [01:41] I'm having trouble getting a kernel build to complete, even when using the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel [01:49] Hello. I'm sorry, I need help setting up the NVidia drivers. At first, I chose the proprietary driver, and restarted (Secure Boot is, of course, off). It works fine, Minecraft reports that it's running on the NVidia 940MX. But since this is a laptop, I opened nvidia-settings and on NVidia PRIME, I chose the integrated Intel HD graphics and restarted. No problems so far--until I wanted to activate the NVidia graphics again. Clicking on the NVidia X [01:49] Server Settings does nothing, while nvidia-settings says: "ERROR: Unable to find display on any available system". I have researched on this. It seems I'm on Wayland, but that shouldn't matter as it seems the latest NVidia drivers support Wayland. Also, the search results I get just point me to the Arch Linux wiki which doesn't tell how to solve this problem. Can anyone please help me, or at least point me to the right direction? [01:50] Ubuntu 17.10 65-bit [01:50] *64 LOL [01:51] Intel Core i5-7200U, 4GB RAM, NVidia GeForce 940MX, 1920x1080. [01:54] Sorry. Internet problems. [01:59] OrthoCube: As I understand it . wayland has growing problems with nvidia drivers . what results when you boot up in the Xorg session ? [01:59] help [02:00] touchpad wont disable in touchpad-indicator [02:00] keeps coming back on [02:00] sometimes it works [02:00] most of the time it doesnt [02:00] any ideas? [02:02] Bashing-om, I'm very sorry, can you please tell me how to do that? [02:03] OrthoCube: In the login box . I expect when you clik on the idon there to be a drop down to select the Xorg session . [02:04] icon* [02:04] I may be a programmer, but I'm still pretty new to Linux. I have used it on an off more than 7 years (since 10.10) but I never used it for more than a week, so if I appear cluless, I'm sorry, because that's what I am XD Trying my best to learn, though. Thanks, I'll try :) [02:05] Orphis: No shame .. We were all new at one time .. 'buntu is a constant process in learning . [02:06] can we all please file a bug in thunar? this is insane, this needs to be better [02:08] Thanks, Bashing-om, nvidia-settings GUI appeared, allowing me to choose the GPU to run on. I'll try to activate the NVidia one. [02:09] Orphis: K .. We here here to help . Try and see what works . Be aware 17.10 is a radical change from prior releases . [02:14] OMG I thought I won't be able to log in ever again XD Chose the NVidia GPU on nvidia-settings, logged out and back in, but the screen just turns black for a second, then shows the log-in screen again XD [02:15] Orphis: Then all is now good ? No issue ? [02:16] Fortunately, a restart let me log back in, and it seems I'm running on the discrete GPU right now... Hopefully switching it back to the integrated intel GPU works... *crosses fingers* [02:23] Okay, I was able to choose the integrated Intel graphics, although I had to *restart*, not log-out/log-in, since logging out then in reveals the same problem of not being able to log in. I'm fine with that, since restarts are fast on GNU/Linux, compared to where I came from LOL Thanks, Bashing-om :) [02:25] OrthoCube: :) .. Keep in mind that if there are issues, see if they persist in the Xorg session . Then we can point fingers at wayland and go to work on wayland interfacing . [02:26] Well, I can't activate the NVidia GPU itself in Wayland, so I guess that's a problem XD For me, as long as X11 works, I don't really have any complaints. [02:26] I really just need to stop using Windows once and for all. [02:27] OrthoCube: Ho kay .. give it some time and wayland will grow up . Growing pains :) [02:28] I will never say Windows sucks, but the way it works is so unoptimized. I'll use Linux if it means my hard disk won't be on 100% utilization while reading at 0.1MBPS (unlike some OS out there... LOL ) [02:30] Yep, I mean, I'm a programmer myself (or at least an aspiring one--I have never worked as a programmer, but that's what I plan to be soon. I know how hard developing software is, and I really appreciate the efforts the community does to improve GNU/Linux for all of us users. [02:32] OrthoCube: .... :) .. chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic . Here is stricly support for the operating system . === Menzie607 is now known as Menzador [03:25] whats the best way to restart xvnc on 14.04? [03:51] I am trying to reinstall Ubuntu, but this time I want to install the 32-bit version, and I have a 64-bit computer. My current version of Ubuntu 16.04 doesn't recognize the thumbdrive. Is it possible to install a 32-bit version of Ubuntu on a 64-bit computer? [03:52] PlainDave: yes, I wouldn't recommend it. But yes you can. [03:52] PlainDave: any particular reason you wish to use 32 bit? [03:52] NegativeFlare, okay thanks. [03:52] np [03:53] rfleming, The 64-bit version freezes once a day or so, so I thought the 32-bit would run smoother on my weak ass computer. lol [03:54] PlainDave: honestly, it shouldn't make a difference. [03:54] (in terms of utilization) [03:54] Oh okay [03:54] PlainDave: how much memory do you have? [03:55] I have 4GB RAM and a core i3 cpu [03:56] PlainDave: what are you attempting to run that causes it to freeze? [03:56] are you using specialized video drivers? non-standard software packages? [03:57] I don't know about the video drivers. Is there a terminal command that will tell me? [03:57] oh, sorry. rfleming I should've mentioned your name [03:59] crap. I forgot to mention that I'm currently running Ubuntu MATE instead of regular Ubuntu. [03:59] PlainDave: no worries... lshw -c video [03:59] oh cool thanks [03:59] specifically in the configuration section [03:59] will say driver= [03:59] okay [04:02] howdy [04:02] why does ubuntu server hide system files in cli by default? [04:02] after a fresh install [04:02] Shawn|i7-720QM: could you give an example? [04:05] Shawn|i7-720QM: there are hidden files with Ubuntu, just like Windows. You can view them using la -a [04:05] is there a command to enable permanent view? [04:05] for cli? [04:05] on a server, there should be only 3 files in your home folder, a .profile, a .bash_rc and a .bash_history [04:06] Shawn|i7-720QM: yes, you can look in .bash_rc and set an alias that will always use -a [04:06] there already is a commented out example in the file [04:06] why is it not hidden in a full ubuntu distro? [04:07] it is [04:14] Shawn|i7-720QM, true as rfleming said, it is hidden, since hidden files start with a dot (.) ... but it still shows in the output of ls -l ... since the default bash profile is pre-set with an alias [04:14] check the output of "alias ls" [04:15] to use a command without any set alias run it with a backslash in the beginning .... e.g. \ls [04:15] I have been using ls -a [04:15] That will ignore all aliases [04:15] I'm used to lubuntu, they dont hide it in that [04:15] Well then -a will definitely show the hidden files, cause that is what it is supposed to be [04:15] aah i see :) [04:15] yeah well, diff distros/DEs, different aliases set up by default [04:16] Shawn|i7-720QM: there are so many superfluous files that keeping them hidden is helpful. [04:16] Shawn|i7-720QM: there's the use of aliases like la, and ll that help manage ls usage [04:21] alias la='ls -A' [04:21] alias ll='ls -la' [04:21] Hi guys, anybody know of a good ubuntu program to invoice customers? [04:21] alias l='ls -CF' [04:21] I need a program modified, willing to pay by the hour or split the potential rewards. Program is gpu based bitcoin wallet generator from https://github.com/exploitagency/vanitygen-plus potential reward is the 55 bit btc puzzle transaction (.55 btc for opening the wallet, roughly $8k USD, which Ill split if it works) Pm me if interested. [04:21] abomb, this is not an advertising channel, but a support & discussion channel for ubuntu users [04:22] Mr_Cyclops, sorry, just thinking some opensource devs might like some extra cash [04:23] abomb, I can understand, but then ... :) wrong place eventually [04:23] Mr_Cyclops, do you know where would be some good places to ask? [04:24] theres #ubuntu-offtopic [04:24] Ben64, thanks .. abomb there's your answer [04:26] thanks Ben64 and Mr_Cyclops :) [04:26] abomb, gluck [04:26] [05:01] why would an nfs share w/ the same UID of 1000 on client/server show up with "owner" root:root on the client side instead of the correct user? [05:01] bout to pull my hair out [05:05] its really just one subfolder [05:06] Will the ubuntu live usb allow me to temporarily install a small program under 200mb that I download via the included browser to test out? [05:07] I wanted to do some speed tests with an OpenVPN-vpn application via the live usb. [05:07] yeah if you got space [05:07] i dont see why [05:07] not [05:08] Ok DF3D2 thanks, haven't tried but wanted to compare vpn speeds on ubuntu vs windows 7 (current system) - apparently, there's some issues on windows capping vpn speeds over 150 Mbps but not on linux. [05:08] I ran a few openssl windows tests to check if the cpu was the bottleneck but it's not (i5) [05:09] The VPN servers and my net connection off vpn can handle the higher speeds. [05:14] peerings + transits can make a big impact at this bandwidth if you're pushing through the internet (i assume you do) [05:18] re: my perms issue [05:18] was zfs/nfs interaction heh. [05:18] got it fixed it [05:23] anyone know how to add a master key to apt with this? http://prntscr.com/hmb16i [05:24] So on the ubuntu live usb webpage it shows the cluster size for rufus to be "4096bytes and default" - the latest linked rufus shows 8192bytes as default, all the other options from the ubuntu live usb guide appear to be the same from the dropdown menu and other checked options. [05:24] Shawn|i7-720QM, terminal [05:24] copy/paste that run as sudo [05:24] I did [05:24] I ran "wget -qO - https://apt.z.cash/zcash.asc | sudo apt-key add -" [05:24] but without a fingerprint [05:24] how do I add that fingerprint? [05:25] paste the error [05:36] what is the recommended download manager similar to windows internet download manager? uget ? [05:40] I guess I will try that for the moment. [05:47] Hey all :) [05:47] Is it poissble to regex a mac address in string ? [05:47] I mean .... we have unfilltered mac address in string with command spaces i.e. so ... we need to get clean mac adress [05:47] address * [05:48] Is it possible in bash ? [05:51] V7: there's a whole IRC channel dedicated to bash,php,mysql,apache,xampp,sendmail,html,java, and also online documentation and forums and blog sites and reddit's and sub reddits [05:51] V7: just FYI :) [05:51] Thank you tatertots [06:22] does anybody else have the problem that ubuntu mate 17.10, the touchpad right click is interpreted as a left click ? [06:26] Linux Kernel 103 is still as buggy as the previous ones (since 98): My Blu-ray burner isn't detected anymore. Works fine in kernel 97 and previous. [06:32] even changing the orientation does not help [06:37] mr_lou: if one kernel works and the next doesn't, it's a regression, and you should report it initially in launchpad and if it's an upstream one, to the kernel.org bug tracker as well: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Bugs#Reporting_Bugs_Upstream [06:39] Hm.. [06:40] I find that process very complicated, and I have bad experience filing such things myself. [06:42] Hm... "Ubuntu One"? I thought that closed long ago? [06:43] mr_lou: ok, just don't expect someone to fix it for you if you don't report it [06:43] If some other person is affected and files it, maybe it will [06:43] In general, upstream bug trackers respond very well [06:43] alkisg, Well I can boot with kernel 97. Just trying to help out. [06:43] I didn't see Ubuntu One anywhere in that link [06:43] Signing up at Launchpad: " I am a new Ubuntu One user" [06:43] mr_lou: sure, but mentioning it in a forum where noone maintains the kernel is no help at all [06:44] Ah, that's to login, when you want to file a bug report at launchpad you need to login first [06:44] And their login process was coupled with ubuntu one, and they didn't de-couple it yet [06:44] hmkay [06:51] So I'm here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu [06:51] And I click "Report a bug", but is just taken to a 50 mile long text, rather than somewhere I can report a bug. [06:52] Did you start with "ubuntu-bug linux" as https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Bugs#Reporting_Bugs_Upstream says? [06:53] Yes, tried that. But the initial popup doesn't seen to contain anything about what the bug is. Didn't wanna press Send. [06:56] It's like you gotta be a whizkid to report bugs. I know from experience that I can easily spend half a day just trying to report this. And when/if I finally manage to do so, I will have selected or written something wrong in the report, rendering it invalid. I tried this when creating "tickets" for VLC. Never wasting my time like that again. [06:56] There has to be some easier way of helping out. [06:57] If not, then sorry, I can't help. [06:57] mr_lou: well, if you can't get involved with bug reporting, there's internationalization, helping people in trying out ubuntu, etc etc [06:57] No worries though not everyone is required to help [06:57] I'm helping local people with Ubuntu. [06:58] Cool [06:58] They're always impressed and surprised that something like this existed. Yes, everyone lives blindfolded it seems. [06:59] They're also always veryh sceptical. :-> But that changes fast after trying it for a while. [06:59] initiating launch sequence [07:04] alkisg, Well, best I could do. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1737671 [07:04] Launchpad bug 1737671 in linux (Ubuntu) "Blu-ray burner no longer detected" [Undecided,New] [07:05] mr_lou: seems fine, congrats :) === _ruben_ is now known as _ruben [07:05] Right. Party at my place in half an hour. Bring your own beer. [07:05] lol [07:05] mr_lou: try to do a few steps tests now, and add it to your bug yourself [07:06] mr_lou: devs like that when your helping [07:06] Steps tests? [07:06] mr_lou: yeah try different things [07:06] Well I did already. I know that booting with Kernel 97 fixes my problem. [07:07] So of course that's just what I do. [07:07] mr_lou: that indeed is already a big step [07:07] I read that problems like this is usually related to kernel, so that's how I got the idea of trying to boot older kernels, and it worked. [07:07] That's how I know that kernel 97 is the last working one. [07:08] The timing of it all was terrible of course. These things always are. I had just finished a 5-year long Blu-ray project (www.8bitmemoirs.com) and was about to create copies. [07:08] Had to throw the burner into my better half's Windows machine.... which is not good, because we daily tease eachother about which OS is the better one. [07:09] So she loved that one. [07:24] Reboot [07:34] ok weird bug (in progress)... i've dragged and dropped some text from a text editor to a terminal - and the text is just floating in the middle and my mouse is stuck in the cursor mode of dragging and won't click [07:35] luckily i can still type/switch windows etc... with keyb only. [07:35] have already tried restarting the window manager and panel of my desktop environment - any other ideas? [07:36] You could paste it in a file manager, then from a terminal go to the file you pasted, and retrieve the text. Fixing the issue, no idea. [07:36] nah its stuck - its not a normal copy/paste - its me dragging text [07:37] i think the text editor has crashed but i don't want to kill it in case of unsaved work :S [07:37] tbh gedit/pluma has always been kinda iffy - i should just abandon it for geany [07:39] I like gEdit.... but it needs a code-formatter function. Does geany have that? [07:39] Like in NetBeans you press CTRL+SHIFT+F and it automatically sets correct indentation etc. [07:40] mr_lou, pretty sure they both do [07:40] oh that kinda thing - not sure [07:40] Maybe kill terminal since that's what is holding your mouse in place. If you dragged it then I guess there's a good chance it wont be in the text editor. Also, you said it may have crashed. [07:41] Hello, I have a doubt about upgrade from Ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04 [07:41] tbh i hate how pluma/gedit doesn't have a autosave which a) makes the autosaves in a certain location (uncluttering other areas where you actually want particular files) and b) doesn't autosave files that haven't been saved at least once [07:41] it also can't remember tabs :S [07:44] stevenm, Well, CTRL+S has been a reflex with me for decades, so.... :-> [07:44] Hey! Are do PGP Public and Private keys have abbreviations, like for example PX referring to private key? [07:45] Wow I did not know I could mess up my question that bad [07:50] Cavanini: what kind of doubt? [07:58] alkisg: I have a notebook with 14.04 running ok..... I'm not sure about to upgrade to 16.04 [08:00] I would like (telling how is my notebook) to know the risks in case of me .... I don't wanna have a slower performance [08:00] Cavanini: first of all you can try with a 16.04 live usb stick [08:00] In general, there's no slower performance from 14.04 to 16.04 [08:01] Upon fresh install, Ubuntu recommends installing Nvidia proprietary drivers that are 25 days out of date. Is there a reason for this, or does it just not know the new version came out? [08:01] I have a Toshiba Satellite .... Intel® Core™ i3-2350M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4 [08:03] I don't understand your last question [08:04] Cavanini: Leevancleef was asking his own question, he wasn't answering to you [08:04] Leevancleef: In general we put the names of the people we're talking to, in front of our sentences [08:04] !who [08:04] As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :) [08:04] Cavanini: your system sounds fine for 16.04, go ahead and upgrade [08:05] ahmmm sorry alkisg!! Now it's ok [08:05] !latest | Leevancleef [08:05] Leevancleef: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa. [08:05] Leevancleef: When it comes to nvidia drivers there's a !ppa you cna use for the latest versions [08:06] Alkisg: lot of thanks, primarily I need to have a pendrive.... With how much MB of capacity? [08:06] Cavanini: what do you need the pendrive for? [08:07] did I must backup my whole HD before? [08:07] alkisg, I think he means how much space should he use for a Live CD [08:07] Cavanini: no, you update through the update manager without backing up or using a pendrive [08:08] Cavanini: go there, and click next to see the slideshow: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-upgrading-ubuntu-desktop#0 [08:08] alkisg, I thought a fresh install was still recommended for 14.04 -> 16.04 upgrades? Were the issues with the in-place upgrade resolved? [08:08] Hello, would anyone know why changing the permissions of my .dbus folder in my encrypted home directory and starting the dbus daemon would break my desktop? [08:08] Leevancleef: I don't know of any such limitations, the link above is the official tutorial on how to update from 14.04 to 16.04 [08:09] JoeRW: do you mean that while you're logged in you killed dbus? A lot of services depend on that running... [08:10] Alkisg: Ok, I'll try .... Now I must sleep. Thank you again!! [08:10] You're welcome [08:10] Leevancleef: thank you too [08:10] No, I mean after I changed the permissions and started the daemon, then rebooted, I now am logging into a desktop without any of my customizations/preferences and Gnome is giving me many errors. [08:11] I desperately need some help to fix this as my entire desktop is essentially useless at the moment. [08:11] JoeRW: "started the daemon" => but wasn't it already started? You can't have a session without dbus running, and you can't really restart dbus while other programs are using it afaik [08:11] And why did you change the permissions in the first place? [08:12] Correct. It was never running because of the folder permissions. [08:12] So I changed the folder permissions then it allowed me to start it. [08:12] Then rebooted, and now everything is broken. [08:12] Let's take it from the start. Which folder are we talking about, ~/.dbus? [08:12] anyone have problem with keyboard... here when i open browser it always refresh accidentally [08:13] Which is weird because I didn't realize that changing the permissions of that folder would do such a thing. [08:13] Correct. [08:13] on terminal the character ~ input [08:13] JoeRW: ok, you can safely delete that folder while logged off, and it will be recreated with correct permissions on the next login [08:13] JoeRW: the settings are in another folder, in dconf, not related to dbus [08:13] I did that, and the desktop is still gone. [08:14] Maybe you managed to corrupt the dconf database then [08:14] I know this doesn't make sense but it's happening for some weird reason. [08:14] Oh man! [08:15] on terminal the character ~ input continously... [08:15] My home directory is encrypted so I wasn't sure if changing that folder's permissions caused a chain of events that broke everything. [08:16] fishcooker: maybe the key is stuck? [08:16] JoeRW: open a terminal, run: dconf dump / | wc -l [08:17] Ok, just did. [08:17] Output? [08:17] Should I restart now? [08:17] 0 [08:17] Eh, that means you don't have any setting at all :D [08:17] Did you see any errors there? [08:17] Nope. [08:17] Just 0 [08:17] ls -lha .config/dconf/ [08:17] Output? [08:18] total 52K [08:18] drwxr-xr-x 2 joe joe 4.0K Dec 10 22:24 . [08:18] drwxr-xr-x 56 joe joe 12K Dec 10 23:59 .. [08:18] -rw-r--r-- 1 joe joe 27K Dec 10 22:24 user [08:18] EriC^^: why on this pidgin text area input it doesn;t happen [08:19] fishcooker: try opening a terminal and run "xev" and see if it gives anything [08:19] JoeRW: ps -fC dconf-service [08:20] UID PID PPID C STIME TTY TIME CMD [08:20] gdm 1304 1030 0 22:06 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/dconf/dconf-service [08:20] JoeRW: are you logged in graphically now that you're running these? [08:20] Yes, but the desktop is barely usable. [08:20] dconf-service didn't even start, yes [08:21] So probably a lot of settings and apps choke on this [08:21] Oh man. [08:21] Run `mv .xsession-errors .xsession-errors.bad`, then logout, then login, then put your new .xsession-errors to pastebin [08:22] I received this: mv: cannot stat '.xsession-errors': No such file or directory [08:23] Hrm, then something's more wrong that it should :D [08:23] Are you sure you didn't break permissions for more folders? [08:23] yes it give ^[[15~^[[15~^[[15~^[[15~^[[15~^[[15~^[[15~^[[15~^[[15~^[[15~^[[15~^[^[[15 EriC^^ [08:23] JoeRW: you're issuing the command in the $HOME directory? [08:23] Better pastebin the output of this: ls -lha ~ | nc termbin.com 9999 [08:23] Not at all. I literally only adjusted .dbus then started the dbus daemon and rebooted my computer. [08:24] http://termbin.com/px5k [08:25] fishcooker: does it say anything like blablabla..... keycode ... blablabla ? [08:26] JoeRW: your dbus folder is owned by root, you can't write to it [08:26] JoeRW: remove it, logout, login, and let it be created on its own [08:27] Ok deleted it. Now logging out then coming back in. [08:28] Nothing changed. [08:28] JoeRW: try "sudo find ~ ! -user $USER" [08:30] /home/joe/pulseeffects/pulseeffects-build-deps_3.0.7.3_all.deb [08:30] /home/joe/.lesshst [08:30] /home/joe/.local/share/applications/FoxitReader.desktop.bak [08:30] /home/joe/.cache2/dconf [08:31] JoeRW: try maybe "chown -R $USER: ~/.cache* ~/.config" [08:32] *sudo chown ... [08:32] Just did that. [08:32] Should I log out then back in? [08:33] JoeRW: did you get anything in ~/.xsession-errors when you logged in now? [08:33] yes EriC^^ on syslog http://vpaste.net/t0Do4#uploads?ft=sh [08:34] fishcooker: is it a dell laptop? [08:34] lenovo [08:35] https://pastebin.com/QaatQxTP [08:35] fishcooker: see if one of the function buttons is jammed in, the wifi connect one etc [08:36] fishcooker: is it a thinkpad yoga? [08:37] fishcooker: this seems relevant https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/1440 [08:37] see if any button relating to that is pressed, or it's not hinged right or something [08:41] EriC^^ All the errors are in that pastebin. [08:41] JoeRW: try sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX [08:42] first type lsblk and get the name of your main hdd, /dev/sda /dev/sdb etc and replace it above' [08:43] EriC^^: !!ecrypts!! - check dmesg/kern.log [08:44] Ok, I just did that. [08:44] JoeRW: can you pastebin the output of smartctl? [08:45] TJ-: it could give input/output error cause of the ecryptfs, not any potential hdd damage? [08:45] https://pastebin.com/uFkEBYED [08:45] JoeRW: hdd looks good [08:46] EriC^^: yeah! I've been working on some extensive ecryptfs bugs recently and deep-dived into the code. Summary: it's a mess, don't use it! [08:47] I guess it's just toast then. [08:47] JoeRW: try pasting the output of " sudo cat /var/log/kern.log" [08:47] Ok [08:47] TJ-: aha [08:48] https://pastebin.com/YMZyCiAk [08:48] any idea why suddenly my keyboard shortcuts in 16.04 stopped working (I may have updated last week, I'm not sure)? [08:49] I want to install polybar. Can someone tell me how to do the following on terminal? [08:49] `Go to System-Administration-Software Sources, Third-Party Software tab, Add: [08:49] deb http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu zesty-getdeb apps` [08:49] JoeRW: try creating a new user, if the desktop works fine, then maybe copy your data over there, if you want to use home dir encryption again it's up to you [08:49] EriC^^: right, looks like the wrong key was used at some point. [08:49] Sounds good. [08:49] JoeRW: have you at any time changed the user's password? [08:50] I didn't [08:50] JoeRW: sudo adduser , for home dir encryption sudo adduser --encrypt-home [08:51] A1Recon: echo 'deb http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu zesty-getdeb apps' | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/zesty-getdeb.list === thorre_se is now known as thorre [08:51] A1Recon: then sudo apt-get update to get the new packages list [08:52] Ok. I'm going to log out and login with the other user. [08:53] EriC^^, thanks! God, ive missed this place [08:53] EriC^^: thankfully there's usable file-system native encryption in ext4 now [08:53] A1Recon: your welcome! [08:53] so.. keyboard shortcuts.. anyone? :p I'm going crazy, not being able to navigate through my workspaces :p [08:54] TJ-: nice! [08:55] EriC^^, Thanks.....but sorry to sound like a grammar nazi, but its "You're welcome." as in "You are welcome". ignore if "your welcome " was a typo [08:56] yeah i know :P [08:56] A1Recon: It's also "I've" [08:56] A1Recon: not everyone on IRC is a native English speaker [08:57] A1Recon: and of those, many get confused by when to use the apostraphe [08:58] Unfortunately that didn't do anything. [08:58] just wanted to help out [08:58] The desktop is still barely usable and no settings get saved or anything. [08:58] A1Recon: that's fine; just wanted to be sure you're aware :) [08:59] JoeRW: odd [09:00] JoeRW: is that after a reboot? [09:00] Also, my .dbus folder never recreated like it was supposed to. [09:00] No, I just logged out. [09:00] And logged in with the other user. [09:00] JoeRW: Before going further try a reboot - it might save a lot of messing about. [09:00] Ok, will do. [09:01] Brb. [09:03] Still the same. :( [09:04] JoeRW: OK, I missed the original problem. Can you summarise it for me? [09:04] Who'd ever thought a single folder permissions change would take down an entire desktop? [09:04] I changed the permissions of my .dbus folder in encrypted home directory then started the dbus daemon. [09:05] Then I rebooted, and now my desktop has lost all of its settings, doesn't save any new settings, and is riddled with Gnome errors/crashes. [09:07] JoeRW: OK, and after the reboot is this affecting the newly created user account also? [09:07] Yup. [09:07] JoeRW: bhah! Got to leave for a while, hopefully EriC^^ can continue [09:08] No worries. Thank you for trying at least. :) [09:10] JoeRW: just before I go - is /home/ a separate file-system mount from the root file-system? [09:11] I think? [09:15] JoeRW: sorry was afk, so the result is that this happens even with newly created users or the guest account? [09:15] Correct. [09:15] And no problem. I honestly just appreciate the help. :) [09:15] JoeRW: then this isn't related to whatever you did under /home/joe [09:15] Think of other things [09:16] JoeRW: I can help via vnc if you want, but this look rather complex to be solved over irc [09:16] Sure. [09:17] How would I do that? [09:17] sudo apt install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr [09:27] JoeRW: I ran dconf-service [09:27] Do you see your settings come back? [09:27] While it's running now? [09:27] I don't see them. [09:27] Should I restart? [09:27] No don't restart because it won't be started [09:30] JoeRW: your dconf folder was owned by root [09:31] JoeRW: logout and then login again, and let's see if it fixes anything [09:31] K, one sec. [09:32] Still the same. [09:32] Hello! I'm trying to change io_poll_delay via sysfs to 0. Using 4.10.0-42-generic kernel (generic-hwe for 16.04). When i do echo 0 > /sys/block/sdc/ququq/io_poll_delay i see error: -bash: echo: write error: Invalid argument [09:32] Could someone help me to find out where to look at to fix this? [09:32]