[00:17] <tubal> TJ: So I just rebooted with the two parameters we discussed. Same outcome, though: no GUI controls.
[00:56] <V7> Hey all :)
[00:56] <V7> Is it possible to read a pipe and save it to a file ?
[00:56] <V7> I.e. "while [ 1 ]; do cat ~/myfifo 2>&1 | tee file.txt done" appends to a file
[00:57] <V7> but why ?
[01:00] <V7> Anyone ?
[01:19] <rolandbeowulf> Doesnt append on my end, actually overwrites
[01:19] <rolandbeowulf> That command at least
[01:20] <rolandbeowulf> you'd append the output of that command by making it tee -a
[01:20] <rolandbeowulf> if that's what you're asking
[01:21] <rolandbeowulf> https://askubuntu.com/questions/420981/how-do-i-save-terminal-output-to-a-file
[01:21] <rolandbeowulf> Second response has a table of outputs you might find useful
[01:26] <mentalita> can we all please file a bug in thunar?
[01:32] <Sean_McG> hi, is here a good channel to ask about compiling a kernel?
[01:41] <Sean_McG> I'm having trouble getting a kernel build to complete, even when using the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[01:49] <OrthoCube> Hello. I'm sorry, I need help setting up the NVidia drivers. At first, I chose the proprietary driver, and restarted (Secure Boot is, of course, off). It works fine, Minecraft reports that it's running on the NVidia 940MX. But since this is a laptop, I opened nvidia-settings and on NVidia PRIME, I chose the integrated Intel HD graphics and restarted. No problems so far--until I wanted to activate the NVidia graphics again. Clicking on the NVidia X
[01:49] <OrthoCube> Server Settings does nothing, while nvidia-settings says: "ERROR: Unable to find display on any available system". I have researched on this. It seems I'm on Wayland, but that shouldn't matter as it seems the latest NVidia drivers support Wayland. Also, the search results I get just point me to the Arch Linux wiki which doesn't tell how to solve this problem. Can anyone please help me, or at least point me to the right direction?
[01:50] <OrthoCube> Ubuntu 17.10 65-bit
[01:50] <OrthoCube> *64 LOL
[01:51] <OrthoCube> Intel Core i5-7200U, 4GB RAM, NVidia GeForce 940MX, 1920x1080.
[01:54] <OrthoCube> Sorry. Internet problems.
[01:59] <Bashing-om> OrthoCube: As I understand it . wayland has growing problems with nvidia drivers . what results when you boot up in the Xorg session ?
[01:59] <Pilfers> help
[02:00] <Pilfers> touchpad wont disable in touchpad-indicator
[02:00] <Pilfers> keeps coming back on
[02:00] <Pilfers> sometimes it works
[02:00] <Pilfers> most of the time it doesnt
[02:00] <Pilfers> any ideas?
[02:02] <OrthoCube> Bashing-om, I'm very sorry, can you please tell me how to do that?
[02:03] <Bashing-om> OrthoCube: In the login box . I expect when you clik on the idon there to be a drop down to select the Xorg session .
[02:04] <Bashing-om> icon*
[02:04] <OrthoCube> I may be a programmer, but I'm still pretty new to Linux. I have used it on an off more than 7 years (since 10.10) but I never used it for more than a week, so if I appear cluless, I'm sorry, because that's what I am XD Trying my best to learn, though. Thanks, I'll try :)
[02:05] <Bashing-om> Orphis: No shame .. We were all new at one time .. 'buntu is a constant process in learning .
[02:06] <mentalita> can we all please file a bug in thunar? this is insane, this needs to be better
[02:08] <OrthoCube> Thanks, Bashing-om, nvidia-settings GUI appeared, allowing me to choose the GPU to run on. I'll try to activate the NVidia one.
[02:09] <Bashing-om> Orphis: K .. We here here to help . Try and see what works . Be aware 17.10 is a radical change from prior releases .
[02:14] <OrthoCube> OMG I thought I won't be able to log in ever again XD Chose the NVidia GPU on nvidia-settings, logged out and back in, but the screen just turns black for a second, then shows the log-in screen again XD
[02:15] <Bashing-om> Orphis: Then all is now good ? No issue ?
[02:16] <OrthoCube> Fortunately, a restart let me log back in, and it seems I'm running on the discrete GPU right now... Hopefully switching it back to the integrated intel GPU works... *crosses fingers*
[02:23] <OrthoCube> Okay, I was able to choose the integrated Intel graphics, although I had to *restart*, not log-out/log-in, since logging out then in reveals the same problem of not being able to log in. I'm fine with that, since restarts are fast on GNU/Linux, compared to where I came from LOL Thanks, Bashing-om :)
[02:25] <Bashing-om> OrthoCube: :) .. Keep in mind that if there are issues, see if they persist in the Xorg session . Then we can point fingers at wayland and go to work on wayland interfacing .
[02:26] <OrthoCube> Well, I can't activate the NVidia GPU itself in Wayland, so I guess that's a problem XD For me, as long as X11 works, I don't really have any complaints.
[02:26] <OrthoCube> I really just need to stop using Windows once and for all.
[02:27] <Bashing-om> OrthoCube: Ho kay .. give it some time and wayland will grow up . Growing pains :)
[02:28] <OrthoCube> I will never say Windows sucks, but the way it works is so unoptimized. I'll use Linux if it means my hard disk won't be on 100% utilization while reading at 0.1MBPS (unlike some OS out there... LOL )
[02:30] <OrthoCube> Yep, I mean, I'm a programmer myself (or at least an aspiring one--I have never worked as a programmer, but that's what I plan to be soon. I know how hard developing software is, and I really appreciate the efforts the community does to improve GNU/Linux for all of us users.
[02:32] <Bashing-om> OrthoCube: .... :) .. chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic . Here is stricly support for the operating system .
[03:25] <truexfan81> whats the best way to restart xvnc on 14.04?
[03:51] <PlainDave> I am trying to reinstall Ubuntu, but this time I want to install the 32-bit version, and I have a 64-bit computer. My current version of Ubuntu 16.04 doesn't recognize the thumbdrive. Is it possible to install a 32-bit version of Ubuntu on a 64-bit computer?
[03:52] <NegativeFlare> PlainDave: yes, I wouldn't recommend it. But yes you can.
[03:52] <rfleming> PlainDave: any particular reason you wish to use 32 bit?
[03:52] <PlainDave> NegativeFlare, okay thanks.
[03:52] <NegativeFlare> np
[03:53] <PlainDave> rfleming, The 64-bit version freezes once a day or so, so I thought the 32-bit would run smoother on my weak ass computer. lol
[03:54] <rfleming> PlainDave: honestly, it shouldn't make a difference.
[03:54] <rfleming> (in terms of utilization)
[03:54] <PlainDave> Oh okay
[03:54] <rfleming> PlainDave: how much memory do you have?
[03:55] <PlainDave> I have 4GB RAM and a core i3 cpu
[03:56] <rfleming> PlainDave: what are you attempting to run that causes it to freeze?
[03:56] <rfleming> are you using specialized video drivers? non-standard software packages?
[03:57] <PlainDave> I don't know about the video drivers. Is there a terminal command that will tell me?
[03:57] <PlainDave> oh, sorry. rfleming I should've mentioned your name
[03:59] <PlainDave> crap. I forgot to mention that I'm currently running Ubuntu MATE instead of regular Ubuntu.
[03:59] <rfleming> PlainDave: no worries... lshw -c video
[03:59] <PlainDave> oh cool thanks
[03:59] <rfleming> specifically in the configuration section
[03:59] <rfleming> will say driver=
[03:59] <PlainDave> okay
[04:02] <Shawn|i7-720QM> howdy
[04:02] <Shawn|i7-720QM> why does ubuntu server hide system files in cli by default?
[04:02] <Shawn|i7-720QM> after a fresh install
[04:02] <rfleming> Shawn|i7-720QM: could you give an example?
[04:05] <rfleming> Shawn|i7-720QM: there are hidden files with Ubuntu, just like Windows.  You can view them using la -a
[04:05] <Shawn|i7-720QM> is there a command to enable permanent view?
[04:05] <Shawn|i7-720QM> for cli?
[04:05] <rfleming> on a server, there should be only 3 files in your home folder, a .profile, a .bash_rc and a .bash_history
[04:06] <rfleming> Shawn|i7-720QM: yes, you can look in .bash_rc and set an alias that will always use -a
[04:06] <rfleming> there already is a commented out example in the file
[04:06] <Shawn|i7-720QM> why is it not hidden in a full ubuntu distro?
[04:07] <rfleming> it is
[04:14] <Mr_Cyclops> Shawn|i7-720QM, true as rfleming said, it is hidden, since hidden files start with a dot (.) ... but it still shows in the output of ls -l ... since the default bash profile is pre-set with an alias
[04:14] <Mr_Cyclops> check the output of "alias ls"
[04:15] <Mr_Cyclops> to use a command without any set alias run it with a backslash in the beginning .... e.g. \ls
[04:15] <Shawn|i7-720QM> I have been using ls -a
[04:15] <Mr_Cyclops> That will ignore all aliases
[04:15] <Shawn|i7-720QM> I'm used to lubuntu, they dont hide it in that
[04:15] <Mr_Cyclops> Well then -a will definitely show the hidden files, cause that is what it is supposed to be
[04:15] <Mr_Cyclops> aah i see :)
[04:15] <Mr_Cyclops> yeah well, diff distros/DEs, different aliases set up by default
[04:16] <rfleming> Shawn|i7-720QM: there are so many superfluous files that keeping them hidden is helpful.
[04:16] <rfleming> Shawn|i7-720QM: there's the use of aliases like la, and ll that help manage ls usage
[04:21] <rfleming> alias la='ls -A'
[04:21] <rfleming> alias ll='ls -la'
[04:21] <pennTeller> Hi guys, anybody know of a good ubuntu program to invoice customers?
[04:21] <rfleming> alias l='ls -CF'
[04:21] <abomb> I need a program modified, willing to pay by the hour or split the potential rewards.  Program is gpu based bitcoin wallet generator from https://github.com/exploitagency/vanitygen-plus potential reward is the 55 bit btc puzzle transaction (.55 btc for opening the wallet, roughly $8k USD, which Ill split if it works)  Pm me if interested.
[04:21] <Mr_Cyclops> abomb, this is not an advertising channel, but a support & discussion channel for ubuntu users
[04:22] <abomb> Mr_Cyclops, sorry, just thinking some opensource devs might like some extra cash
[04:23] <Mr_Cyclops> abomb, I can understand, but then  ... :) wrong place eventually
[04:23] <abomb> Mr_Cyclops, do you know where would be some good places to ask?
[04:24] <Ben64> theres #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:24] <Mr_Cyclops> Ben64, thanks .. abomb there's your answer
[04:26] <abomb> thanks Ben64 and Mr_Cyclops :)
[04:26] <Mr_Cyclops> abomb, gluck
[04:26] <Mr_Cyclops> <sleep is coming...>
[05:01] <DF3D2> why would an nfs share w/ the same UID of 1000 on client/server show up with "owner" root:root on the client side instead of the correct user?
[05:01] <DF3D2> bout to pull my hair out
[05:05] <DF3D2> its really just one subfolder
[05:06] <tezogmix> Will the ubuntu live usb allow me to temporarily install a small program under 200mb that I download via the included browser to test out?
[05:07] <tezogmix> I wanted to do some speed tests with an OpenVPN-vpn application via the live usb.
[05:07] <DF3D2> yeah if you got space
[05:07] <DF3D2> i dont see why
[05:07] <DF3D2> not
[05:08] <tezogmix> Ok DF3D2 thanks, haven't tried but wanted to compare vpn speeds on ubuntu vs windows 7 (current system) - apparently, there's some issues on windows capping vpn speeds over 150 Mbps but not on linux.
[05:08] <tezogmix> I ran a few openssl windows tests to check if the cpu was the bottleneck but it's not (i5)
[05:09] <tezogmix> The VPN servers and my net connection off vpn can handle the higher speeds.
[05:14] <tomreyn> peerings + transits can make a big impact at this bandwidth if you're pushing through the internet (i assume you do)
[05:18] <DF3D2> re: my perms issue
[05:18] <DF3D2> was zfs/nfs interaction heh.
[05:18] <DF3D2> got it fixed it
[05:23] <Shawn|i7-720QM> anyone know how to add a master key to apt with this? http://prntscr.com/hmb16i
[05:24] <tezogmix> So on the ubuntu live usb webpage it shows the cluster size for rufus to be "4096bytes and default" - the latest linked rufus shows 8192bytes as default, all the other options from the ubuntu live usb guide appear to be the same from the dropdown menu and other checked options.
[05:24] <DF3D2> Shawn|i7-720QM, terminal
[05:24] <DF3D2> copy/paste that run as sudo
[05:24] <Shawn|i7-720QM> I did
[05:24] <Shawn|i7-720QM> I ran "wget -qO - https://apt.z.cash/zcash.asc | sudo apt-key add -"
[05:24] <Shawn|i7-720QM> but without a fingerprint
[05:24] <Shawn|i7-720QM> how do I add that fingerprint?
[05:25] <DF3D2> paste the error
[05:36] <tezogmix> what is the recommended download manager similar to windows internet download manager? uget ?
[05:40] <tezogmix> I guess I will try that for the moment.
[05:47] <V7> Hey all :)
[05:47] <V7> Is it poissble to regex a mac address in string ?
[05:47] <V7> I mean .... we have unfilltered mac address in string with command spaces i.e. so ... we need to get clean mac adress
[05:47] <V7> address *
[05:48] <V7> Is it possible in bash ?
[05:51] <tatertots> V7: there's a whole IRC channel dedicated to bash,php,mysql,apache,xampp,sendmail,html,java, and also online documentation and forums and blog sites and reddit's and sub reddits
[05:51] <tatertots> V7: just FYI :)
[05:51] <V7> Thank you tatertots
[06:22] <superKiller> does anybody else have the problem that ubuntu mate 17.10, the touchpad right click is interpreted as a left click ?
[06:26] <mr_lou> Linux Kernel 103 is still as buggy as the previous ones (since 98): My Blu-ray burner isn't detected anymore. Works fine in kernel 97 and previous.
[06:32] <superKiller> even changing the orientation does not help
[06:37] <alkisg> mr_lou: if one kernel works and the next doesn't, it's a regression, and you should report it initially in launchpad and if it's an upstream one, to the kernel.org bug tracker as well: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Bugs#Reporting_Bugs_Upstream
[06:39] <mr_lou> Hm..
[06:40] <mr_lou> I find that process very complicated, and I have bad experience filing such things myself.
[06:42] <mr_lou> Hm... "Ubuntu One"? I thought that closed long ago?
[06:43] <alkisg> mr_lou: ok, just don't expect someone to fix it for you if you don't report it
[06:43] <alkisg> If some other person is affected and files it, maybe it will
[06:43] <alkisg> In general, upstream bug trackers respond very well
[06:43] <mr_lou> alkisg, Well I can boot with kernel 97. Just trying to help out.
[06:43] <alkisg> I didn't see Ubuntu One anywhere in that link
[06:43] <mr_lou> Signing up at Launchpad: " I am a new Ubuntu One user"
[06:43] <alkisg> mr_lou: sure, but mentioning it in a forum where noone maintains the kernel is no help at all
[06:44] <alkisg> Ah, that's to login, when you want to file a bug report at launchpad you need to login first
[06:44] <alkisg> And their login process was coupled with ubuntu one, and they didn't de-couple it yet
[06:44] <mr_lou> hmkay
[06:51] <mr_lou> So I'm here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[06:51] <mr_lou> And I click "Report a bug", but is just taken to a 50 mile long text, rather than somewhere I can report a bug.
[06:52] <alkisg> Did you start with "ubuntu-bug linux" as https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Bugs#Reporting_Bugs_Upstream says?
[06:53] <mr_lou> Yes, tried that. But the initial popup doesn't seen to contain anything about what the bug is. Didn't wanna press Send.
[06:56] <mr_lou> It's like you gotta be a whizkid to report bugs. I know from experience that I can easily spend half a day just trying to report this. And when/if I finally manage to do so, I will have selected or written something wrong in the report, rendering it invalid. I tried this when creating "tickets" for VLC. Never wasting my time like that again.
[06:56] <mr_lou> There has to be some easier way of helping out.
[06:57] <mr_lou> If not, then sorry, I can't help.
[06:57] <alkisg> mr_lou: well, if you can't get involved with bug reporting, there's internationalization, helping people in trying out ubuntu, etc etc
[06:57] <alkisg> No worries though not everyone is required to help
[06:57] <mr_lou> I'm helping local people with Ubuntu.
[06:58] <alkisg> Cool
[06:58] <mr_lou> They're always impressed and surprised that something like this existed. Yes, everyone lives blindfolded it seems.
[06:59] <mr_lou> They're also always veryh sceptical. :-> But that changes fast after trying it for a while.
[06:59] <penguinator_> initiating launch sequence
[07:04] <mr_lou> alkisg, Well, best I could do. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1737671
[07:05] <alkisg> mr_lou: seems fine, congrats :)
[07:05] <mr_lou> Right. Party at my place in half an hour. Bring  your own beer.
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> mr_lou: try to do a few steps tests now, and add it to your bug yourself
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> mr_lou: devs like that when your helping
[07:06] <mr_lou> Steps tests?
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> mr_lou: yeah try different things
[07:06] <mr_lou> Well I did already. I know that booting with Kernel 97 fixes my problem.
[07:07] <mr_lou> So of course that's just what I do.
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> mr_lou: that indeed is already a big step
[07:07] <mr_lou> I read that problems like this is usually related to kernel, so that's how I got the idea of trying to boot older kernels, and it worked.
[07:07] <mr_lou> That's how I know that kernel 97 is the last working one.
[07:08] <mr_lou> The timing of it all was terrible of course. These things always are. I had just finished a 5-year long Blu-ray project (www.8bitmemoirs.com) and was about to create copies.
[07:08] <mr_lou> Had to throw the burner into my better half's Windows machine.... which is not good, because we daily tease eachother about which OS is the better one.
[07:09] <mr_lou> So she loved that one.
[07:24] <mr_lou> Reboot
[07:34] <stevenm> ok weird bug (in progress)... i've dragged and dropped some text from a text editor to a terminal - and the text is just floating in the middle and my mouse is stuck in the cursor mode of dragging and won't click
[07:35] <stevenm> luckily i can still type/switch windows etc... with keyb only.
[07:35] <stevenm> have already tried restarting the window manager and panel of my desktop environment - any other ideas?
[07:36] <penguinator_> You could paste it in a file manager, then from a terminal go to the file you pasted, and retrieve the text. Fixing the issue, no idea.
[07:36] <stevenm> nah its stuck - its not a normal copy/paste - its me dragging text
[07:37] <stevenm> i think the text editor has crashed but i don't want to kill it in case of unsaved work :S
[07:37] <stevenm> tbh gedit/pluma has always been kinda iffy - i should just abandon it for geany
[07:39] <mr_lou> I like gEdit.... but it needs a code-formatter function. Does geany have that?
[07:39] <mr_lou> Like in NetBeans you press CTRL+SHIFT+F and it automatically sets correct indentation etc.
[07:40] <stevenm> mr_lou, pretty sure they both do
[07:40] <stevenm> oh that kinda thing - not sure
[07:40] <penguinator_> Maybe kill terminal since that's what is holding your mouse in place. If you dragged it then I guess there's a good chance it wont be in the text editor. Also, you said it may have crashed.
[07:41] <Cavanini> Hello, I have a doubt about upgrade from Ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04
[07:41] <stevenm> tbh i hate how pluma/gedit doesn't have a autosave which a) makes the autosaves in a certain location (uncluttering other areas where you actually want particular files) and b) doesn't autosave files that haven't been saved at least once
[07:41] <stevenm> it also can't remember tabs :S
[07:44] <mr_lou> stevenm, Well, CTRL+S has been a reflex with me for decades, so....   :->
[07:44] <pizzaburger> Hey! Are do PGP Public and Private keys have abbreviations, like for example PX referring to private key?
[07:45] <pizzaburger> Wow I did not know I could mess up my question that bad
[07:50] <alkisg> Cavanini: what kind of doubt?
[07:58] <Cavanini> alkisg: I have a notebook with 14.04 running ok..... I'm not sure about to upgrade to 16.04
[08:00] <Cavanini> I would like (telling how is my notebook) to know the risks in case of me .... I don't wanna  have a slower performance
[08:00] <alkisg> Cavanini: first of all you can try with a 16.04 live usb stick
[08:00] <alkisg> In general, there's no slower performance from 14.04 to 16.04
[08:01] <Leevancleef> Upon fresh install, Ubuntu recommends installing Nvidia proprietary drivers that are 25 days out of date. Is there a reason for this, or does it just not know the new version came out?
[08:01] <Cavanini> I have a Toshiba Satellite .... Intel® Core™ i3-2350M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4
[08:03] <Cavanini> I don't understand your last question
[08:04] <alkisg> Cavanini: Leevancleef was asking his own question, he wasn't answering to you
[08:04] <alkisg> Leevancleef: In general we put the names of the people we're talking to, in front of our sentences
[08:04] <hateball> !who
[08:04] <alkisg> Cavanini: your system sounds fine for 16.04, go ahead and upgrade
[08:05] <Cavanini> ahmmm sorry alkisg!! Now it's ok
[08:05] <hateball> !latest | Leevancleef
[08:05] <hateball> Leevancleef: When it comes to nvidia drivers there's a !ppa you cna use for the latest versions
[08:06] <Cavanini> Alkisg: lot of thanks, primarily I need to have a pendrive.... With how much MB of capacity?
[08:06] <alkisg> Cavanini: what do you need the pendrive for?
[08:07] <Cavanini> did I must backup my whole HD before?
[08:07] <Leevancleef> alkisg, I think he means how much space should he use for a Live CD
[08:07] <alkisg> Cavanini: no, you update through the update manager without backing up or using a pendrive
[08:08] <alkisg> Cavanini: go there, and click next to see the slideshow: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-upgrading-ubuntu-desktop#0
[08:08] <Leevancleef> alkisg, I thought a fresh install was still recommended for 14.04 -> 16.04 upgrades? Were the issues with the in-place upgrade resolved?
[08:08] <JoeRW> Hello, would anyone know why changing the permissions of my .dbus folder in my encrypted home directory and starting the dbus daemon would break my desktop?
[08:08] <alkisg> Leevancleef: I don't know of any such limitations, the link above is the official tutorial on how to update from 14.04 to 16.04
[08:09] <alkisg> JoeRW: do you mean that while you're logged in you killed dbus? A lot of services depend on that running...
[08:10] <Cavanini> Alkisg: Ok, I'll try .... Now I must sleep. Thank you again!!
[08:10] <alkisg> You're welcome
[08:10] <Cavanini> Leevancleef: thank you too
[08:10] <JoeRW> No, I mean after I changed the permissions and started the daemon, then rebooted, I now am logging into a desktop without any of my customizations/preferences and Gnome is giving me many errors.
[08:11] <JoeRW> I desperately need some help to fix this as my entire desktop is essentially useless at the moment.
[08:11] <alkisg> JoeRW: "started the daemon" => but wasn't it already started? You can't have a session without dbus running, and you can't really restart dbus while other programs are using it afaik
[08:11] <alkisg> And why did you change the permissions in the first place?
[08:12] <JoeRW> Correct. It was never running because of the folder permissions.
[08:12] <JoeRW> So I changed the folder permissions then it allowed me to start it.
[08:12] <JoeRW> Then rebooted, and now everything is broken.
[08:12] <alkisg> Let's take it from the start. Which folder are we talking about, ~/.dbus?
[08:12] <fishcooker> anyone have problem with keyboard... here when i open browser it always refresh accidentally
[08:13] <JoeRW> Which is weird because I didn't realize that changing the permissions of that folder would do such a thing.
[08:13] <JoeRW> Correct.
[08:13] <fishcooker> on terminal the character ~ input
[08:13] <alkisg> JoeRW: ok, you can safely delete that folder while logged off, and it will be recreated with correct permissions on the next login
[08:13] <alkisg> JoeRW: the settings are in another folder, in dconf, not related to dbus
[08:13] <JoeRW> I did that, and the desktop is still gone.
[08:14] <alkisg> Maybe you managed to corrupt the dconf database then
[08:14] <JoeRW> I know this doesn't make sense but it's happening for some weird reason.
[08:14] <JoeRW> Oh man!
[08:15] <fishcooker> on terminal the character ~ input continously...
[08:15] <JoeRW> My home directory is encrypted so I wasn't sure if changing that folder's permissions caused a chain of events that broke everything.
[08:16] <EriC^^> fishcooker: maybe the key is stuck?
[08:16] <alkisg> JoeRW: open a terminal, run: dconf dump / | wc -l
[08:17] <JoeRW> Ok, just did.
[08:17] <alkisg> Output?
[08:17] <JoeRW> Should I restart now?
[08:17] <JoeRW> 0
[08:17] <alkisg> Eh, that means you don't have any setting at all :D
[08:17] <alkisg> Did you see any errors there?
[08:17] <JoeRW> Nope.
[08:17] <JoeRW> Just 0
[08:17] <alkisg> ls -lha .config/dconf/
[08:17] <alkisg> Output?
[08:18] <JoeRW> total 52K
[08:18] <JoeRW> drwxr-xr-x  2 joe joe 4.0K Dec 10 22:24 .
[08:18] <JoeRW> drwxr-xr-x 56 joe joe  12K Dec 10 23:59 ..
[08:18] <JoeRW> -rw-r--r--  1 joe joe  27K Dec 10 22:24 user
[08:18] <fishcooker> EriC^^: why on this pidgin text area input it doesn;t happen
[08:19] <EriC^^> fishcooker: try opening a terminal and run "xev" and see if it gives anything
[08:19] <alkisg> JoeRW: ps -fC dconf-service
[08:20] <JoeRW> UID        PID  PPID  C STIME TTY          TIME CMD
[08:20] <JoeRW> gdm       1304  1030  0 22:06 ?        00:00:00 /usr/lib/dconf/dconf-service
[08:20] <alkisg> JoeRW: are you logged in graphically now that you're running these?
[08:20] <JoeRW> Yes, but the desktop is barely usable.
[08:20] <alkisg> dconf-service didn't even start, yes
[08:21] <alkisg> So probably a lot of settings and apps choke on this
[08:21] <JoeRW> Oh man.
[08:21] <alkisg> Run `mv .xsession-errors .xsession-errors.bad`, then logout, then login, then put your new .xsession-errors to pastebin
[08:22] <JoeRW> I received this: mv: cannot stat '.xsession-errors': No such file or directory
[08:23] <alkisg> Hrm, then something's more wrong that it should :D
[08:23] <alkisg> Are you sure you didn't break permissions for more folders?
[08:23] <fishcooker> yes it give ^[[15~^[[15~^[[15~^[[15~^[[15~^[[15~^[[15~^[[15~^[[15~^[[15~^[[15~^[^[[15 EriC^^
[08:23] <TJ-> JoeRW: you're issuing the command in the $HOME directory?
[08:23] <alkisg> Better pastebin the output of this: ls -lha ~ | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:23] <JoeRW> Not at all. I literally only adjusted .dbus then started the dbus daemon and rebooted my computer.
[08:24] <JoeRW> http://termbin.com/px5k
[08:25] <EriC^^> fishcooker: does it say anything like blablabla..... keycode ... blablabla ?
[08:26] <alkisg> JoeRW: your dbus folder is owned by root,  you can't write to it
[08:26] <alkisg> JoeRW: remove it, logout, login, and let it be created on its own
[08:27] <JoeRW> Ok deleted it. Now logging out then coming back in.
[08:28] <JoeRW> Nothing changed.
[08:28] <EriC^^> JoeRW: try "sudo find ~ ! -user $USER"
[08:30] <JoeRW> /home/joe/pulseeffects/pulseeffects-build-deps_3.0.7.3_all.deb
[08:30] <JoeRW> /home/joe/.lesshst
[08:30] <JoeRW> /home/joe/.local/share/applications/FoxitReader.desktop.bak
[08:30] <JoeRW> /home/joe/.cache2/dconf
[08:31] <EriC^^> JoeRW: try maybe "chown -R $USER: ~/.cache* ~/.config"
[08:32] <EriC^^> *sudo chown ...
[08:32] <JoeRW> Just did that.
[08:32] <JoeRW> Should I log out then back in?
[08:33] <EriC^^> JoeRW: did you get anything in ~/.xsession-errors when you logged in now?
[08:33] <fishcooker> yes EriC^^ on syslog http://vpaste.net/t0Do4#uploads?ft=sh
[08:34] <EriC^^> fishcooker: is it a dell laptop?
[08:34] <fishcooker> lenovo
[08:35] <JoeRW> https://pastebin.com/QaatQxTP
[08:35] <EriC^^> fishcooker: see if one of the function buttons is jammed in, the wifi connect one etc
[08:36] <EriC^^> fishcooker: is it a thinkpad yoga?
[08:37] <EriC^^> fishcooker: this seems relevant https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/1440
[08:37] <EriC^^> see if any button relating to that is pressed, or it's not hinged right or something
[08:41] <JoeRW> EriC^^ All the errors are in that pastebin.
[08:41] <EriC^^> JoeRW: try sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX
[08:42] <EriC^^> first type lsblk and get the name of your main hdd, /dev/sda /dev/sdb etc and replace it above'
[08:43] <TJ-> EriC^^: !!ecrypts!! - check dmesg/kern.log
[08:44] <JoeRW> Ok, I just did that.
[08:44] <EriC^^> JoeRW: can you pastebin the output of smartctl?
[08:45] <EriC^^> TJ-: it could give input/output error cause of the ecryptfs, not any potential hdd damage?
[08:45] <JoeRW> https://pastebin.com/uFkEBYED
[08:45] <EriC^^> JoeRW: hdd looks good
[08:46] <TJ-> EriC^^: yeah! I've been working on some extensive ecryptfs bugs recently and deep-dived into the code. Summary: it's a mess, don't use it!
[08:47] <JoeRW> I guess it's just toast then.
[08:47] <EriC^^> JoeRW: try pasting the output of " sudo cat /var/log/kern.log"
[08:47] <JoeRW> Ok
[08:47] <EriC^^> TJ-: aha
[08:48] <JoeRW> https://pastebin.com/YMZyCiAk
[08:48] <rvang> any idea why suddenly my keyboard shortcuts in 16.04 stopped working (I may have updated last week, I'm not sure)?
[08:49] <A1Recon> I want to install polybar. Can someone tell me how to do the following on terminal?
[08:49] <A1Recon> `Go to System-Administration-Software Sources, Third-Party Software tab, Add:
[08:49] <A1Recon> deb http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu zesty-getdeb apps`
[08:49] <EriC^^> JoeRW: try creating a new user, if the desktop works fine, then maybe copy your data over there, if you want to use home dir encryption again it's up to you
[08:49] <TJ-> EriC^^: right, looks like the wrong key was used at some point.
[08:49] <JoeRW> Sounds good.
[08:49] <TJ-> JoeRW: have you at any time changed the user's password?
[08:50] <JoeRW> I didn't
[08:50] <EriC^^> JoeRW: sudo adduser <username> , for home dir encryption sudo adduser --encrypt-home <username>
[08:51] <EriC^^> A1Recon: echo 'deb http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu zesty-getdeb apps' | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/zesty-getdeb.list
[08:51] <EriC^^> A1Recon: then sudo apt-get update to get the new packages list
[08:52] <JoeRW> Ok. I'm going to log out and login with the other user.
[08:53] <A1Recon> EriC^^, thanks! God, ive missed this place
[08:53] <TJ-> EriC^^: thankfully there's usable file-system native encryption in ext4 now
[08:53] <EriC^^> A1Recon: your welcome!
[08:53] <rvang> so.. keyboard shortcuts.. anyone? :p I'm going crazy, not being able to navigate through my workspaces :p
[08:54] <EriC^^> TJ-: nice!
[08:55] <A1Recon> EriC^^, Thanks.....but sorry to sound like a grammar nazi, but its "You're welcome." as in "You are welcome". ignore if "your welcome " was a typo
[08:56] <EriC^^> yeah i know :P
[08:56] <hateball> A1Recon: It's also "I've"
[08:56] <TJ-> A1Recon: not everyone on IRC is a native English speaker
[08:57] <TJ-> A1Recon: and of those, many get confused by when to use the apostraphe
[08:58] <JoeRW> Unfortunately that didn't do anything.
[08:58] <A1Recon> just wanted to help out
[08:58] <JoeRW> The desktop is still barely usable and no settings get saved or anything.
[08:58] <TJ-> A1Recon: that's fine; just wanted to be sure you're aware :)
[08:59] <EriC^^> JoeRW: odd
[09:00] <TJ-> JoeRW: is that after a reboot?
[09:00] <JoeRW> Also, my .dbus folder never recreated like it was supposed to.
[09:00] <JoeRW> No, I just logged out.
[09:00] <JoeRW> And logged in with the other user.
[09:00] <TJ-> JoeRW: Before going further try a reboot - it might save a lot of messing about.
[09:00] <JoeRW> Ok, will do.
[09:01] <JoeRW> Brb.
[09:03] <JoeRW> Still the same. :(
[09:04] <TJ-> JoeRW: OK, I missed the original problem. Can you summarise it for me?
[09:04] <JoeRW> Who'd ever thought a single folder permissions change would take down an entire desktop?
[09:04] <JoeRW> I changed the permissions of my .dbus folder in encrypted home directory then started the dbus daemon.
[09:05] <JoeRW> Then I rebooted, and now my desktop has lost all of its settings, doesn't save any new settings, and is riddled with Gnome errors/crashes.
[09:07] <TJ-> JoeRW: OK, and after the reboot is this affecting the newly created user account also?
[09:07] <JoeRW> Yup.
[09:07] <TJ-> JoeRW: bhah! Got to leave for a while, hopefully EriC^^ can continue
[09:08] <JoeRW> No worries. Thank you for trying at least. :)
[09:10] <TJ-> JoeRW: just before I go - is /home/ a separate file-system mount from the root file-system?
[09:11] <JoeRW> I think?
[09:15] <alkisg> JoeRW: sorry was afk, so the result is that this happens even with newly created users or the guest account?
[09:15] <JoeRW> Correct.
[09:15] <JoeRW> And no problem. I honestly just appreciate the help. :)
[09:15] <alkisg> JoeRW: then this isn't related to whatever you did under /home/joe
[09:15] <alkisg> Think of other things
[09:16] <alkisg> JoeRW: I can help via vnc if you want, but this look rather complex to be solved over irc
[09:16] <JoeRW> Sure.
[09:17] <JoeRW> How would I do that?
[09:17] <alkisg> sudo apt install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
[09:27] <alkisg> JoeRW: I ran dconf-service
[09:27] <alkisg> Do you see your settings come back?
[09:27] <alkisg> While it's running now?
[09:27] <JoeRW> I don't see them.
[09:27] <JoeRW> Should I restart?
[09:27] <alkisg> No don't restart because it won't be started
[09:30] <alkisg> JoeRW: your dconf folder was owned by root
[09:31] <alkisg> JoeRW: logout and then login again, and let's see if it fixes anything
[09:31] <JoeRW> K, one sec.
[09:32] <JoeRW> Still the same.
[09:32] <alexzzz> Hello! I'm trying to change io_poll_delay via sysfs to 0. Using 4.10.0-42-generic kernel (generic-hwe for 16.04). When i do echo 0 > /sys/block/sdc/ququq/io_poll_delay i see error: -bash: echo: write error: Invalid argument
[09:32] <alexzzz> Could someone help me to find out where to look at to fix this?
[09:32] <alkisg> JoeRW: x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
[09:36] <alkisg> JoeRW: can you reboot, because I see a very old login by you... I renamed dconf so that it will be recreated
[09:36] <odinsbane> Has anybody had luck using nvidia's proprietary drivers in an ubuntu docker?
[09:36] <JoeRW> Doing now.
[09:36] <JoeRW> Brb.
[09:36] <alkisg> ok
[09:37] <alexzzz> Want to test hybrid polling, but can not=( what could be wrong? Or i should ask at some other channel?
[09:38] <alkisg> alexzzz: are you running this as the user, or as root?
[09:38] <alexzzz> as root
[09:39] <alkisg> When you say "ququq" there, do you mean "queue"?
[09:39] <anddam> while installing ardour4 I got a debconf GUI window asking an install optiion for jackd2
[09:40] <alexzzz> alkisg: running as root. not using sudo, just logged in as root
[09:40] <anddam> the window got stuck after I marked the checkbox so I figure there's a stray install step somewhere, how do I check the sanity of installed packages?
[09:40] <alkisg> alexzzz: (11:39:24 πμ) alkisg: When you say "ququq" there, do you mean "queue"?
[09:40] <anddam> or if any APT action is pending anyway?
[09:40] <alkisg> you said /sys/block/sdc/ququq/io_poll_delay
[09:41] <JoeRW> Ok back.
[09:41] <alkisg> JoeRW: anything better?
[09:41] <JoeRW> Still the same. :(
[09:42] <alkisg> JoeRW: x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
[09:42] <alexzzz> alksig: yes, queue. It's chat-only mistake:)
[09:42] <alkisg> alexzzz: the same happens here, so it's normal, although the kernel documents it's read/write: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/block/queue-sysfs.txt
[09:42] <alkisg> With valid values = 0 or -1
[09:42] <alkisg> Try asking in #ubuntu-kernel
[09:43] <alexzzz> alkisg: thanks!
[09:54] <alkisg> JoeRW: so, the problem is that dbus doesn't launch your dconf service
[09:54] <alkisg> While it does launch it for e.g. gdm
[09:55] <alkisg> Can we create a new user, and you login with that new user, and come here to check from the new user?
[09:55] <JoeRW> Sure.
[09:56] <alkisg> JoeRW: ok, login as test and come here
[09:56] <JoeRW> Pass?
[09:58] <alkisg> JoeRW:  x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
[09:58] <JoeRW> I'm so sorry. I thought I knew the pass. What is it again?
[09:58] <alkisg> qwer1234
[09:58] <JoeRW> I did that.
[09:58] <JoeRW> And it said it was incorrect.
[09:59] <JoeRW> I'll try again.
[09:59] <JoeRW> Brb
[09:59] <alkisg> OK
[10:01] <JoeRW> Still the same.
[10:01] <alkisg> JoeRW: meaning you couldn't login?
[10:02] <JoeRW> Also, I left open the one error that always pops up now for you to see.
[10:02] <JoeRW> I could login.
[10:02] <alkisg> Nice
[10:02] <JoeRW> Sorry.
[10:02] <alkisg> x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
[10:02] <JoeRW> I'm back in with my regular username though because there was no difference.
[10:02] <alkisg> No
[10:02] <alkisg> Go back to test, and then connect here
[10:02] <alkisg> Because I want to see the ps output
[10:02] <JoeRW> Oh, ok. Brb.
[10:02] <JoeRW> Sure.
[10:02] <alkisg> OK
[10:07] <JoeRW> Sorry, but it won't detect my internet with that username.
[10:07] <JoeRW> I mean, it will detect it. It won't actually load any pages though.
[10:07] <alkisg> JoeRW: ok, can you do this then? log in as that username, then run `ps faux > ~/psfaux` (note it down), then come back as joe
[10:07] <JoeRW> So I'll connect, but no webpages actually load.
[10:08] <JoeRW> sure
[10:08] <alkisg> ps faux > ~/psfaux
[10:08] <alkisg> Also, keep the error message open when you log in as joe
[10:11] <JoeRW> Ok, done.
[10:11] <TJ-> JoeRW: alkisg: I've not followed along too closely, but I'm wondering if the issue may be caused by apparmor? There may be a clue in dmesg or auth.log
[10:11] <alkisg> (12:02:09 μμ) alkisg: x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
[10:12] <alkisg> TJ-: apparmor refusing to run dconf? why would it do that? :/
[10:12] <alkisg> I'll check
[10:12] <TJ-> alkisg: no, but could be blocking access to some path, causing knock-on effects
[10:12] <ghost2911> hi. I want to develop an app for main linux distros, what tools are currently available for this ?
[10:13] <alkisg> It's strange that dconf does run as gdm though
[10:13] <alkisg> Checking...
[10:13] <TJ-> alkisg: How about DBus?
[10:14] <TJ-> alkisg: If gdm works, which DM is failing?
[10:19] <alkisg> JoeRW: reboot with apparmor disabled, and let's see if it changes anything
[10:19] <alkisg> Log in as joe, normally
[10:19] <JoeRW> Doing now.
[10:19] <alkisg> TJ-: dbus is running, yet dconf isn't started, for users. Both are started for gdm. No other DMs involved.
[10:19] <alkisg> TJ-: i.e. ps aux | grep dconf-service => a service runs for gdm, but not for the logged in user
[10:19] <TJ-> alkisg: check the srevice dependencies
[10:19] <alkisg> How?
[10:20] <alkisg> It's not a service
[10:20] <alkisg> It's started by dbus
[10:20] <alkisg> (not a systemd service)
[10:21] <alkisg> JoeRW: still here? Do you know why those desktop etc files that I restored, were modified?
[10:21] <alkisg> Is it possible that your installation was corrupted?
[10:21] <TJ-> alkisg: right, there are dbus configs under /etc/dbus-1/
[10:22] <alkisg> Hmm I don't think dconf is there
[10:22] <alkisg> I'll check when he reconnects
[10:24] <TJ-> alkisg: also, there's a tool for debugging called dbus-monitor - might be useful to compare a working session to the failing one. Which DE is failing and which is working? You mentioned 'gdm' but that's a Display Manager, not a Desktop Environment
[10:24] <alkisg> dconf should be in  /usr/share/dbus-1/services/ca.desrt.dconf.service
[10:24] <alkisg> TJ-: ther'e's no working session for users
[10:24] <alkisg> The gdm session only works
[10:24] <alkisg> For the gdm user itself
[10:24] <alkisg> Not for real users
[10:24] <JoeRW> Still the same.
[10:24] <alkisg> JoeRW: x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
[10:26] <TJ-> alkisg: Oh, I see... by 'gdm' you mean the username. Then I'd look at syslog and auth.log (grep dbus <logfile>)
[10:33] <alkisg> TJ-:  http://termbin.com/h9ax
[10:33] <alkisg> JoeRW: try another reboot
[10:33] <JoeRW> Doing now.
[10:33] <JoeRW> Brb.
[10:34] <alkisg> Btw, does 17.10 have 4.15 kernel? Joe has 4.15 low latency...
[10:34] <steven> 4.13
[10:35] <bazhang> 4.13.0.19 alkisg
[10:35] <alkisg> Ty guys, so he's using a custom kernel, that could be something...
[10:36] <JoeRW> Still the same.
[10:36] <alkisg> JoeRW: btw why are you running 4.15 lowlatency instead of the normal kernel?
[10:36] <alkisg> Does the problem happen with the normal 4.13 generic kernel?
[10:36] <JoeRW> I am.
[10:36] <JoeRW> Yes it does.
[10:37] <JoeRW> I tried both.
[10:37] <JoeRW> And I also switched between low latency and generic for both 4.13 and 4.15.
[10:37] <alkisg> JoeRW: ok, oh well I suppose something is screwed in /etc, but without more info it's difficult to find it. Not everything in /etc is displayed by debsums, so it can be tricky
[10:37] <alkisg> JoeRW: do a last vnc for me to restore some changes/tests
[10:38] <JoeRW> No worries.
[10:38] <alkisg> x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
[10:42] <A1Recon> can someone help me with this?:
[10:42] <A1Recon> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:42] <A1Recon>  polybar : Depends: libxcb-xrm0 (>= 0.0.0) but it is not installable
[10:42] <alkisg> JoeRW: ok, done
[10:42] <JoeRW> K, cool.
[10:42] <JoeRW> Thank you so much!
[10:42] <A1Recon> how do i install libxcb-xrm0 ?
[10:42] <alkisg> JoeRW: so to sum up, dbus isn't starting dconf, and we couldn't figure out why.You're welcome.
[10:43] <JoeRW> No worries. I think I'll do a restart and opt out of encrypting any of my folders.
[10:43] <JoeRW> I mean a reinstall*
[10:43] <JoeRW> And I'll just back up all of my personal files first.
[10:45] <alkisg> JoeRW: sounds like a good plan. I suspect broken dconf settings in /etc, but hard to verify.
[10:45] <JoeRW> Gotcha.
[11:12] <Thyriaen> I am still having problems with shutdown of my x1 carbon - but i have tested it enough to conclude that it does shut down properly when i have AC attached but not if it is running on battery O.o
[11:13] <elricsfate> Hey guys
[11:13] <elricsfate> Is there something that must be done for /etc/environment to be read?
[11:15] <Thyriaen> i got this https://imgur.com/a/CgNZW intedpendant on the kernel
[11:19] <TJ-> Thyriaen: sounds like an ACPI issue; probably defaulting to a bad config. Sounds like it needs an acpi_osi= entry. See  http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[11:20] <Lavinho> good morning
[11:21] <Lavinho> lenovo ideapad 120s-14lbr works ubuntu ?
[11:21] <Thyriaen> TJ-, thanks i will look into it - windows though ?
[11:22] <TJ-> Thyriaen: read my article, and you'll understand
[11:23] <Thyriaen> TJ-, thanks looking forward to it
[11:23] <elricsfate> I am using a simple value and pair as suggested I.E MYSQL_HOST=host:port
[11:23] <elricsfate> Even after rebooting the system, it does not appear to be set
[11:23] <Lavinho> thanks for help
[11:24] <TJ-> elricsfate: set as in, does not show in the logged-in user's environment?
[11:24] <elricsfate> Correct, even after reboot or login/out
[11:24] <elricsfate> TJ-:
[11:25] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:25] <TJ-> elricsfate: could there be some other later MYSQL_HOST= unsetting it?
[11:28] <TJ-> elricsfate: you could ensure /etc/environment is being used by adding some additional entry to the PATH= line; if your user sees that but not the MYSQL_HOST then it suggests something is unsetting it
[11:35] <Thyriaen> TJ that sounds very interesting and actually makes sense :p
[11:35] <emilyo11> hello!
[11:36] <Thyriaen> TJ-, so i just run the script and check that it did what it is supposed to ? :p
[11:36] <emilyo11> im running ubuntu 16.04 in virtualbox on mac os- would appreciate some insights on the general guidelines to follow when it hangs :)
[11:39] <TJ-> Thyriaen: yes, then reboot and test it
[11:50] <Doc-Saintly> I'm trying to install mysql / mariadb on Ubuntu 16.04 ARM and the mysql package (5.7) keeps failing to configure
[11:50] <Doc-Saintly> I just get: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:51] <emilyo11> what error msg are u getting?
[11:51] <Doc-Saintly> How do I check what is breaking the install?
[11:51] <emilyo11> pckg notfound?
[11:51] <Doc-Saintly> no, both packages are found and installed, and then when configuring, 5.7 fails, which causes mysql-server to fail.
[11:51] <Doc-Saintly> I've purged and re-installed a few times. I tend to get different errors, all related to links or config fails that failed to do the post install script :\
[11:53] <Doc-Saintly> Job for mysql.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status mysql.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
[11:58] <Doc-Saintly> Hmm.. Getting somewhere. Looking in those logs I see that it's saying it's not initialized, when I try to initialize it says the data dir isn't empty...
[12:00] <steenman> i want a floating clock on desktop that can tell me the time in different countries
[12:01] <steenman> please
[12:01] <Thyriaen> TJ-, thanks i believe it fixed it <3
[12:01] <TJ-> Thyriaen: it usually does :)
[12:02] <Thyriaen> bookmarked :P
[12:02] <mircx1> hey is have options connect to here from webchat?
[12:03] <TJ-> mircx1: you mean this? https://webchat.freenode.net/
[12:04] <mircx1> yes but is have autojoin in here?
[12:04] <mircx1> this a possible?
[12:05] <TJ-> mircx1: I'm not sure how the webchat works. I assume without a stored account autojoin isn't possible but I've not used that webchat to know for sure
[12:30] <thnee> I see mentionings of a goup "ssl-cert" but that seems obsolete now since I dont have it on 16.04?
[12:45] <Thyriaen> TJ-, the problem occurred again :(
[12:46] <brym> morning all
[12:46] <brym> would it be possible to create a container for a pxe server to manage physical locations on the network?
[12:55] <Mathisen> brym, not sure what you mean with "physical locations on the network"
[12:56] <brym> i have a spare pc without a hdd. so i'd either boot from a persistent usb, or pxe boot.
[12:59] <Mathisen> brym, well sure you can set that upp
[12:59] <brym> persistent usb seems like the easy way out. so i think i'd rather pxe boot. but i'm not sure where to begin
[12:59] <brym> i know i don't want to mess with any existing dhcp settings. which is why i thought putting it into a container would be better
[12:59] <EraserPencil> why does my franz app only launch at startup and cant be launched again if i closed it
[12:59] <Mathisen> im not so sure you can get persistent install with only RAM
[13:00] <Mathisen> not sure if a tmpfs can be used for that..
[13:01] <brym> well, i have a nas. i have vm's loading from a storage pool there. could i do the same/similar with pxe booting?
[13:03] <brym> the only other immediate option i can think of would be to do provisioning with maas
[13:03] <brym> but the spare pc is diskless
[13:03] <Doc-Saintly> well, I decided to just wipe my machine and start over. mysql installed just fine. It's a shame when that's the solution :\
[13:04] <brym> i can follow maas tutorials all day long. but the ones i find tend to cater to barebones machines with hdd's present.
[13:05] <TJ-> Thyriaen: this only occurs when the PC is powered by battery?
[13:11] <Thyriaen> tj i am not 100% certain but that is my hypothesis
[13:12] <Thyriaen> TJ-, i canot reproduce it 100% i think it only happens (maybe?) when it ran for some time
[13:12] <azureus> good afternoon
[13:12] <azureus> how to install ubuntu on LENOVO 120S-14IAP
[13:13] <azureus> ???
[13:13] <alkisg> brym: check ltsp.org
[13:13] <alkisg> brym: you can also join #ltsp and ask us there
[13:16] <TJ-> Thyriaen: there was a bug we dealt with a couple months ago where systemd and laptop-mode-tools interacted badly and caused similar issues; check if l-m-t is installed with "apt list laptop-mode-tools"
[13:17] <Thyriaen> TJ-, running it gives an output but it doesn't say [installed] at the end of the line so i guess its not installed :p
[13:17] <brym> alkisg: many thanks. i'll see you there. reading the site now.
[13:17] <alkisg> np
[13:19] <TJ-> Thyriaen: Good, not that then, that's a horrible bug
[13:20] <Thyriaen> TJ-, your script appended "WindowsUEFIFirmwareUpdate" is that good ? :p
[13:21] <Thyriaen> TJ-, i just tried and it shutdown correctly when AC powered even when it was on longer - cant be sure but i think its only when running on AC
[13:25] <TJ-> Thyriaen: urgh! no, that's not correct! how in ^&*%^$! did it manage that!? What does "cat /proc/cmdline" show?
[13:25] <Thyriaen> a lot of jumble including acpi_os=WindowsUEFIFirmwareUpdate
[13:26] <TJ-> Thyriaen: can you pastebin it, it needs fixing!
[13:26] <Thyriaen> sure
[13:26] <Thyriaen> let me login here with the laptop
[13:26] <Thyriaen> makes it easier :)
[13:26] <TJ-> Thyriaen: your's is the 1st time I've seen incorrect entry being generated in hundreds of uses
[13:26] <TJ-> Thyriaen: thanks
[13:26] <Thyriaen> well
[13:26] <Thyriaen> if i type /sys/firmware etc
[13:26] <Thyriaen> then its in the list there
[13:29] <Thyriaen> TJ-, https://hastebin.com/papowulonu.pl
[13:29] <Thyriaen> TJ-, so should i use Windows 2015 instead then ?
[13:30] <TJ-> Thyriaen: hahaha! Yes; presumably you know how to edit /etc/default/grub ?
[13:31] <TJ-> Thyriaen: Time I improved the regular expression somewhat! Hard to know how to not exclude entries though since it's a simple String search and the format isn't always "Windows XXXX"
[13:33] <Thyriaen> TJ-, i was about to change your script and just hardcode the windows version in it cause i thought it had to be at two positions ?
[13:34] <Thyriaen> TJ-, or is changing it in /etc/default/grub enough ?
[13:35] <TJ-> Thyriaen: correct it in /etc/default/grub then do "sudo update-grub" and re-test
[13:35] <slimetrap> when i hit print screen th efiles go to a directory different than the save location i set in gconf... help XD
[13:35] <slimetrap> ubuntu 17
[13:35] <slimetrap> i want it to go to ~/Pictures/Screenshots
[13:36] <Thyriaen> TJ-, it now says "acpi_osi=Windows 2015"
[13:37] <TJ-> Thyriaen: OK, and that is with double-quotes surrounding it so ... \"acpi_osi=Windows 2015\"  ...
[13:37] <TJ-> Thyriaen: those escaped double-quotes are vital!
[13:37] <Thyriaen>  TJ- no what i ment was
[13:38] <Thyriaen> when i check /proc/cmdline
[13:38] <Thyriaen> it says "acpi_os=Windows 2015" now
[13:38] <TJ-> Thyriaen: OH! Yes, that's correct
[13:38] <Thyriaen> TJ-, good
[13:38] <TJ-> Thyriaen: sorry, didn't realise you moved so fast :)
[13:39] <TJ-> Thyriaen: usually on here the round-trip time is counted in minutes not milliseconds
[13:39] <Thyriaen> :P
[14:23] <skinux> Are the default screensavers supposed to print HTTP 404 error messages?
[14:24] <skinux> A few of them appear to be failures in loading RSS
[14:36] <minas114> I want to mount my home folder to a different partition, but exclude a specific directory in the home folder (which needs to remain in the default partition). Is this possible?
[14:38] <deem> minas114: you could mount /home/<youruser> to a different partition instead of whole /home
[14:42] <minas114> deem Okay, but this doesn't answer my question...
[14:49] <littlekitty> can someone please help me? I want to run a custom script when I press the power button
[14:49] <littlekitty> this is what the script looks like
[14:49] <littlekitty> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/6XHknZCi/
[14:49] <deem> minas114: it's not possible to add any kind of "include" to a mount command. either you mount some disk to $path or not
[14:50] <EraserPencil> I have a Franz app that I can only launch during startup and no other time. If I quit it, I cant relaunch it. Any idea why?
[14:50] <deem> s/include/exclude/
[14:52] <littlekitty> sorry too much nonsense
[14:52] <littlekitty> here is the actual script
[14:53] <skinux> No one knows about seeing screensavers showing 404 errors??
[14:54] <littlekitty> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/IGJmrroi/
[14:56] <ibmr50e-sylwek> why no one ever told me that the lightest deskop environment is having no desktop environment at all??
[14:58] <skinux> The lightest in XFCE and it has a DE
[15:00] <ibmr50e-sylwek> better no DE
[15:01] <EraserPencil> skinux: isnt lubuntu lighter than xubuntu?
[15:01] <ibmr50e-sylwek> it is i can confirm
[15:02] <Mathisen> all ubuntu flavors can be lightweight
[15:02] <Mathisen> just uninstall stuff you dont use and change DE or remove
[15:02] <Mathisen> lubuntu does suport older hardware better doh
[15:02] <skinux> Umm, I think Lubuntu uses XFCE
[15:03] <ibmr50e-sylwek> nope, LXDE
[15:03] <ibmr50e-sylwek> and soon LXQt
[15:03] <skinux> Seems most everything is changing to use Qt
[15:04] <Mathisen> can still use xfce4 with ubuntu and have it leightweight
[15:04] <skinux> I've thought about learning to use Qt/C++ to make GUIs combined with Java to actual application functionality.
[15:05] <fishcooker> EriC^^sorry for disconnecting http://vpaste.net/lsFnP
[15:06] <ibmr50e-sylwek> skinux, very interesting idea
[15:06] <ibmr50e-sylwek> but sound really hard to do to make it compatibile with many apps
[15:07] <skinux> What do you mean by compatible with many apps?
[15:08] <skinux> It's not like Java hasn't been used in C++ code several times.
[15:08] <fishcooker> is there any apps to list all buffer copy ?
[15:11] <skinux> Does anyone know which default screensavers try to pring data from RSS and/or repo package lists?
[15:11] <Industrial> Hi.
[15:11] <Industrial> When I start tmux and then log out my user, all my tmux sessions are gone
[15:11] <Industrial> as if I restarted.
[15:12] <Industrial> THis is bad. Why does it happen?
[15:13] <Industrial> oh, its systemd doing it
[15:14] <akik> Industrial: thought it was fixed a long time ago?
[15:14] <akik> Industrial: is your system up-to-date?
[15:15] <Industrial> systemd 234
[15:15] <Industrial> it says
[15:16] <Industrial> hmm
[15:16] <Industrial> put KillUserProcesses=0 in /etc/systemd/logind.conf
[15:16] <Industrial> google says
[15:16] <ibmr50e-sylwek> i read on reddit that systemd is very evil is it true?
[15:17] <Industrial> probably not as evil as sticking to archaic systems and maintaining backwards compatibility for 30+ years.
[15:17] <ibmr50e-sylwek> so its a myth? guys there were pretty convincing
[15:18] <ibmr50e-sylwek> saying systemd handles too many unnecessary things
[15:18] <ibmr50e-sylwek> + anyone knows any GUI notepad that works similiar to notepad++ on windows? i mean especially saving unsaved texts
[15:18] <Mathisen> i guess that is personal opinion
[15:18] <Mathisen> if you ask the the gentoo people they say systemd is the devil
[15:18] <Industrial> Use atom or VSCode, IMHO.
[15:18] <Mathisen> if you ask someone else not so mutch
[15:19] <ibmr50e-sylwek> Industrial, atom notepad looks cool, imma try that
[15:19] <Mathisen> Notepadqq
[15:20] <samik> While attempting to repair broken packages libnss-resolve is stuck at "first installation detected, checking NSS setup" what could be the reason?
[15:27] <samik> Anyone?
[15:31] <tomreyn> samik: that's on a bare metal ubuntu system? which release? any non-standard apt sources or unsual configurations?
[15:33] <samik> tomreyn, I was upgrading from 16.04 desktop to zesty and I removed all the pas with ppa-purge
[15:34] <samik> I had gnome3 and gnome3-staging ppa
[15:35] <samik> Code lite and zeal ppa
[15:35] <tomreyn> and ppa-purge succeeded?
[15:35] <samik> Yes
[15:36] <tomreyn> maybe try installing the NSS lib manually using dpki -i
[15:36] <tomreyn> *dpkg -i
[15:36] <akik> indrora: here's somebody with the same problem with gnu screen https://askubuntu.com/questions/984332/something-kills-my-screens
[15:36] <samik> Which package would it be!
[15:37] <akik> indrora: sorry
[15:37] <samik> Tomreyn
[15:37] <akik> oh industrial  left
[15:37] <tomreyn> samik: check the terminal output, it should say which packages are going to be installed
[15:38] <tomreyn> it's probably libnss-mdns
[15:38] <samik> Typing from a phone IRC client, exclamation instead of question
[15:39] <samik> Okay
[15:40] <tomreyn> samik: ok ;) you can also try purging the package (only) if installing it won't work: sudo dpkg --purge libnss-mdns
[15:41] <tomreyn> samik: when installation with dpkg commands succeeds, be sure to "sudo apt-mark auto libnss-mdns"
[15:42] <Azulflame> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server 16.04.3 and it's hanging on "Configuring open-iscsi (amd64) 66%". Google says to disable an init.d service, but I'm not sure how on a boot disk. Any advice?
[15:43] <samik> Okay currently rebooting because interrupting that hanged spot caused a black flashing pointer to appear
[15:55] <samik> Trying to rerun apt complains about interrupted dpkg, besides I think there is a problem with mounts because I'm running that repair from recovery prompt. Maybe /var isn't mounted which is under a separate partition
[15:56] <Azulflame> are you trying to chroot in, or just run things from recovery?
[15:56] <samik> Running from recovery, repair broken packages
[15:57] <alkisg> samik: it won't boot normally now?
[15:57] <samik> I manually mounted all the fstab partitions
[15:57] <Azulflame> have you tried to 'dpkg --reconfigure' ?
[15:58] <Azulflame> that fixes the inturrupted dpkg every time I get it, whether it was actually inturrupted or not
[15:59] <samik> And rerunning dpkg --configure -a it got stuck at libnss-resolve, but interrupting it seems to continue with other packages
[15:59] <samik> Azulflame, I will try that next
[15:59] <alkisg> Which ubuntu version is that, 17.10?
[16:00] <samik> It's halfway there
[16:00] <Azulflame> I'm trying to install Server 16.04.3 and it's hung on "configuring open-iscsi". Is it particularily bad to kill the computer and try again?
[16:00] <samik> I mean to that version
[16:00] <alkisg> samik: you were release-upgrading from 17.04 to 17.10?
[16:00] <samik> From 16.04
[16:00] <nicomachus> how can I find my gtk version on 16.04?
[16:01] <samik> To zesty
[16:01] <alkisg> nicomachus: both gtk2 and gtk3 are installed usually, on which app do you mean?
[16:01] <Azulflame> nicomachus: 'dpkg -l libgtk2.0-0 libgtk-3-0'
[16:02] <lordcirth_work> Azulflame, a fresh install?  If you're wiping it anyway, I don't see any harm in it
[16:02] <nicomachus> alkisg: trying to see if I'm +/- gtk3.2
[16:02] <Azulflame> lordcirth_work: I need to preserve a Windows installation
[16:02] <nicomachus> i'm at 3.18 here though.
[16:02] <nicomachus> thanks Azulflame!
[16:02] <alkisg> Azulflame: check ps faux and kill only the innermost job, so that the postinst might actually continue
[16:03] <Azulflame> alkisg: so Control + Alt + F<num> and which command is the default taskman?
[16:04] <alkisg> Azulflame: alt+ctrl+fsomething, yes, and run ps from the terminal there
[16:05] <Azulflame> "Press enter to activate this console", and a terminal isn't showing up after I push enter
[16:05] <Azulflame> just looks like a system dump, but the top scrolled off
[16:05] <alkisg> samik: I don't have libnss-resolve installed, neither in 16.04 nor in 17.10.
[16:05] <alkisg> Azulflame: if it completely crashed and shows dumps, go ahead and reboot it
[16:06] <Azulflame> completely frozen now, no terminall
[16:23] <V7> Is it possible to get an output from a process by pid if it's sending it's output to /dev/null ?
[16:23] <V7> And readlink says it's /dev/null
[16:24] <V7> So ... tail -f doesn't tell anything
[16:25] <samik> That --configure is completed, had to interrupt it several times, some packages failed to configure. Among them is the latest initramfs, so booting caused a panic, good news is I'm able to get a graphical shell with older kernel
[16:27] <samik> alkisg, it's probably a remnant from older install then, been upgrading it since 14.04
[16:28] <arktvrvs> is -hwe xorg and kernel stuff by default or is it something I installed? because apt shows that I installed it.  much of what apt shows that I installed, I dont remember installing
[16:29] <Azulflame> apt is going to show all the system applications too
[16:29] <Azulflame> and hwe stuff is an installation choice, so it may have been installed, depending on which kernel you chose
[16:38] <alkisg> samik: 14.04 didn't use systemd
[16:39] <alkisg> arktvrvs: the installer marks many of the packages as "manually installed"
[16:39] <alkisg> 16.04.1 comes without hwe, the rest with hwe
[16:40] <arktvrvs> alright thank you
[16:40] <alkisg> V7: you could only see it using some tool like strace
[16:43] <Outlandr> Good Morning!
[16:44] <Outlandr> I'm hoping this isn't a dumb question. I've googled, and read some MAN pages, but I'm still clueless.
[16:45] <Outlandr> I'm running Seafile on a 16.04 server, and my root volume is filling up, mostly with folders starting with mkinitfs.  Google isn't helpful in trying to determine what is creating them.
[16:46] <Outlandr> Sorry.. it's actually mkinitramfs
[16:53] <inspectorcluseau> Outlamdr ... from what I found on Google, it is a tranferable image. i would just delete all but the last on.
[16:53] <inspectorcluseau> one^
[16:55] <samik> alkisg, two packages are requiring it, ubuntu-standard and openvpn-systemd-resolved
[16:55] <Azulflame> will a boot repair disk fix a "error: sector sizes of 1 bytes aren't supported yet" grub error?
[17:01] <alkisg> samik: ii  ubuntu-standard                                1.361.1                      amd64                        The Ubuntu standard system
[17:01] <alkisg> dpkg-query: no packages found matching libnss-resolve
[17:01] <alkisg> I.e. no.
[17:05] <samik> alkisg, apt-cache rdepends libnss-resolve returned those two names
[17:06] <Azulflame> I'm getting a "error: sector sizes of 1 bytes aren't supported yet" error when trying to list partitions in grub rescue. anybody have any tips?
[17:08] <samik> You probably don't have the openvpn related package
[17:08] <samik> That's why it's not installed
[17:11] <samik> Also, is anyone getting a hash mismatch in installing linux-headers-4.13.0-19_4.13.0-19.22_all.deb
[17:11] <samik> Tried us and main server
[17:15] <alkisg> samik: indeed, I don't have the openvpn package installed, that's why you have it while it's not in the normal installation
[17:15] <alkisg> Try removing it, solving all dpkg issues, then reinstalling what you need
[17:16] <AurorasAura> Hi everyone... noob question here. But when creating ssh keys which machine do I create the key on? The one I am trying to ssh into or the one im ssh'ing from?
[17:18] <samik> Okay
[17:19] <leftyfb> AurorasAura: doesn't matter. Though I would recommend not creating the key on the remote machine due to potentially leaving the private key there by accident
[17:20] <AurorasAura> Thank you lefty... English is not my strongest language lol.
[17:20] <AurorasAura> So when it's talking about "host machine" thats the one I am ssh'ing into right?
[17:22] <Azulflame> what was the terminal based partitioning tool that wasn't parted?
[17:25] <akik> Azulflame: gdisk/sgdisk
[17:26] <PTNapivoski> fdisk?
[17:26] <PTNapivoski> fdisk workd right for me...
[17:27] <Azulflame> I gave up trying to remember and just grabbed gparted
[17:27] <Azulflame> but it has to go through 2x 1TB drives first
[17:27] <PTNapivoski> My laptop is old, 2009...
[17:29] <arktvrvs> just discovered `cd -' ... alll the wasted time...
[17:53] <samik> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-headers-4.13.0-19_4.13.0-19.22_all.deb Looks like this package is corrupted
[17:53] <xet> Hello there. I'm attempting to install a Realtek driver on my ubuntu 16.04. I've got what I think is a system language issue: the install file tries to use directories in English, which is not my system's language. I changed it then, and when asked about changing these specific directories' name (desktop, home, and others) I agreed but got an error instead and nothing changed. Any insights?
[17:53] <samik> How to circumvate the installation while upgrading?
[17:55] <pcpostar> Did i register ok? Does this work now?
[17:56] <pcpostar> Anyone here alive right now?
[17:57] <akik> pcpostar: seems to work ok
[17:57] <PTNapivoski> xet: Audio?
[17:57] <samik> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26171609/
[17:57] <pcpostar> Gr8, thanks! Ok, so, i have a question. What u guys suggest - emule, mldonkey, or something else.. what's now popular?
[17:57] <akik> pcpostar: no polls :)
[17:57] <samik> This is the o/p I get while trying to install it manually, and apt reports hash mismatch
[17:58] <pcpostar> Ok, fair enougth. :)
[17:58] <xet> PTNapivoski, yes, but the error I get is regarding not finding the right directory
[18:00] <PTNapivoski> xet: Do you really need the driver from Realtek?
[18:00] <samik> Can someone confirm the corruption, starting to doubt my Internet connection now
[18:01] <samik> maybe phising
[18:03] <xet> PTNapivoski, I'm guessing so. I'm on laptop and the audio will only work well in speakers. When I try to use a headphone, the audio is completely distorted. I've tried many things so this is like a last attempt, lol.
[18:04] <PTNapivoski> xet: Is it only on Ubuntu?
[18:04] <PTNapivoski> May be a hardware problem...
[18:04] <xet> yes PTNapivoski
[18:04] <xet> on windows it works just fine
[18:04] <adroit_machine> Hi, I have purchased jabra usb speakers, I can get it to work on vlc but in firefox the sound is still coming through built in speakers. Need help please
[18:04] <PTNapivoski> Mmm... What Ubuntu version?
[18:04] <xet> 16.04 LTS I think
[18:05] <PTNapivoski> The ALSA driver should be fine...
[18:07] <PTNapivoski> xet: I may not be the answer, but... Have you tryed alsa-tools-gui
[18:07] <PTNapivoski> ?
[18:08] <PTNapivoski> tried*
[18:08] <AurorasAura> is there any way to access a ubuntu server from a different computer when its in emergency mode?
[18:09] <xet> PTNapivoski, I don't think so
[18:10] <xet> PTNapivoski, it's strange because the system sounds don't have any distortion. I experience it only in youtube videos and .mp3 files.
[18:11] <PTNapivoski> .mp3 files with what application?
[18:13] <xet> default 'videos' app that comes with ubuntu
[18:13] <PTNapivoski> xet: Have you tried VLC?
[18:14] <AurorasAura> Cause I ssh'ed into my server and made some changes to the fstab. now its unresponsive which i am 99% sure its in emergency mode
[18:14] <xet> yes, same thing PTNapivoski
[18:14] <PTNapivoski> Strange...
[18:15] <PTNapivoski> May be a driver problem, indeed...
[18:17] <BluesKaj> xet try alsamixer in the console and turn your master volume down to 80% or so
[18:21] <xet> PTNapivoski, I'll try something later, thanks for the help :)
[18:22] <PTNapivoski> xet: You are wellcome, lad...
[18:23] <samik> Installed the same package from launchpad, progressing...
[18:23] <samik> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/linux-headers-4.13.0-19_4.13.0-19.22_all.deb
[18:33] <uebera||> Hi. Using unattended upgrades, is there a way to specify individual packages (regardless of their respective repository) which are supposed to be upgraded? (i.e., something slightly more elegant than the "apt install -y <pkg1> <pkg2>" cron job)? I have not found a single example...
[18:43] <Loshki> AurorasAura: I haven't heard of 'emergency mode', and one of the main things I'd want in it if I had, would be some kind of basic network connectivity. Do you have console access?
[18:44] <AurorasAura> No the way its set up is if it goes into emergency mode the only way I can get in to it is to physically interface with the machine/ Like plug a monitor and keyboard into it
[18:51] <RonaldsMazitis> hello everyone
[18:51] <RonaldsMazitis> I'm using kde plasma on ubuntu 16.04
[18:51] <RonaldsMazitis> LTS
[18:51] <RonaldsMazitis> I have problems with baloo indexing my files
[18:51] <RonaldsMazitis> anyone knows if this thing really works, or it is far shots trying to make it index them
[18:51] <RonaldsMazitis> I like KDE but this thing just trys to kill my PC using all four cores in 99-100%
[18:52] <akik> RonaldsMazitis: i've disabled baloo because of that
[18:53] <RonaldsMazitis> so it doesn't work at all
[18:53] <akik> many different indexers, many cpu cycles lost
[18:53] <Azulflame> is Drone #ubuntu's Channel OP?
[18:55] <RonaldsMazitis> akik, does this feature work on 5.11 kde?
[18:56] <akik> RonaldsMazitis: i don't have 5.11, i have 5.8 only
[18:56] <akik> RonaldsMazitis: but i think this problem was shown in kde 4 already
[18:56] <akik> it's not a kde problem per se, i think
[18:57] <RonaldsMazitis> oh ok, so I have to wait for next kubuntu lts
[18:58] <adrian_1908> Why did the Ubuntu developers choose to mount media to /media instead of /run/media ? Isn't the latter the present and future standard?
[19:01] <brainwash> adrian_1908: source?
[19:01] <noi> is anyone here using the latest xps 15 model with ubuntu? I'm considering buying it and dual-booting
[19:02] <adrian_1908> brainwash: well it's just reality, my Ubuntu systems mount to /media/user/… and I don't have any /run/media directory.
[19:03] <adrian_1908> brainwash: or do you mean for /run/media being standard?
[19:03] <brainwash> adrian_1908: that's a fact, yes
[19:03] <brainwash> right. a source for the upstream standard
[19:03] <brainwash> should be udisks2
[19:04] <brainwash> then I would check what is different in the udisks2 package provided by debian/ubuntu
[19:05] <texla> Need "How to" to install two Ubuntu computers to a usb hp printer
[19:06] <brainwash> adrian_1908: bug 1020759
[19:10] <nicomachus> hi all. noticed some brute force attempts on SSH from a chinese IP so I'm trying to get fail2ban configured correctly, but the service fails to start and throws "Job for fail2ban.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status fail2ban.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details."
[19:11] <nicomachus> this is systemctl status fail2ban.service: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26171971/
[19:13] <EriC^^> nicomachus: why dont you change the port too?
[19:13] <adrian_1908> brainwash: Looks like I was mistaken, thanks!
[19:14] <nicomachus> EriC^^: just got fail2ban working. had a bad line in the config. I'm not sure changing the port would help much
[19:14] <brainwash> adrian_1908: why were you mistaken?
[19:14] <EriC^^> nicomachus: it would help almost completely
[19:15] <adrian_1908> brainwash: I thought /run/media was canonical, but from the looks of it (FHS, the bug report) /media is standard path.
[19:16] <brainwash> ah
[19:17] <akik> didn't /run come with systemd?
[19:17] <brainwash> nope
[19:18] <akik> it was something like 2014 that i saw it first
[19:19] <brainwash> or maybe you are right
[19:19] <brainwash> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2011-March/150031.html
[19:20] <adrian_1908> Gotta run, thanks again!
[19:20] <brainwash> 2011
[19:22] <akik> i sometimes wonder about what poettering has been thinking about: - Nothing is hidden anymore. The admin can see everything beneath
[19:22] <akik>   /var/run and /run, no hidden dot-files anymore.
[19:26] <freakyy> hi all. how can i "refresh" the icon bar on the left?
[19:27] <freakyy> my icons keep disappearing after some time
[19:39] <texla> Need "How to" to install two Ubuntu computers to a usb hp printer
[19:43] <senaps> hi all, i had my keyboard layout change combination set to alt+shift. but since upgrading to ubuntu 17.10, this thing is messing with alt+shift+> key combination and changes language. i can't change this combination too.(i have changed it from settings, but the alt+shift is still changing language. how can i fix this problem??
[19:44] <RainMan28> is this the correct place to ask for help with stunnel4 on ubuntu? I am wondering if I can have stunnel4 setup as a client AND a server on the same ubuntu install. Thank you.
[19:46] <Jordan_U> texla: Have you tried these steps already: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/printing-setup.html ?
[19:49] <texla> Jordan_U, Thanks for the link will try
[19:49] <Jordan_U> texla: You're welcome.
[19:49] <Azulflame> "grub-install: warning: sector 18 is already in use by the program 'Acer registration utility (?)'; avoiding it. This software may cause boot or other problems in future. Please ask its authors not to store data in the boot track"
[19:50] <Azulflame> Is that a major problem?
[19:51] <Jordan_U> Azulflame: No, it just means that Acer is a shady company that puts DRM ahead of the abilility of their customers' ability to boot, but that grub is working around the problem.
[19:52] <Jordan_U> s/the ability of their customers'/their customers'/
[20:01] <Azulflame> I previously had a "sector size of 1 bytes" error, but super grub 2.0 let me boot around it
[20:01] <Azulflame> grub-install'd over the previous installation
[20:07] <senaps> help me with moving windows to another workspace in ubuntu 17.10 please https://askubuntu.com/questions/985666/i-cant-move-windows-to-another-workspace-anymore
[20:13] <ylwghst> Compiz with gnome 3?
[20:26] <hatch789> Hi guys, I have a dependency issue I wanted to see if I could get some help with. Is this the proper channel to discuss a shared object (missing) issue?
[20:26] <nicomachus> hatch789: sure, if you don't mid, go ahead and paste the full output of your command to paste.ubuntu.com and link here
[20:29] <hatch789> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26172416/  -I just don't know how to install the missing cudart library
[20:32] <hatch789> I have searched on packages.ubuntu.com and found the libcudart in a package but not sure if it's the .so.8.0 one that I need ...or if it's a more generic (runtime) version of that library
[20:34] <Azulflame> I'm in the camp of "install it and see", and remove it if it isn't the right version
[20:34] <brainwash> hatch789: try this https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/963814/cuda-8-libcudart-error/
[20:36] <Azulflame> did a relay server go down?
[20:36] <akik> Azulflame: maybe they were using an old vulnerable version of irssi or something
[21:10] <Guest29138> Any recommendation for a Ubuntu ARM  laptop? :D
[21:11] <dan01> Any recommendation for a Ubuntu ARM  laptop? :D Sorry, changed nickname
[21:11] <konrados> tomreyn: akik: Hi, I had this friends PC issue about being short of RAM (only 2GB) - the additional 2GB just came today and I installed and the machine is now 4x faster :) Really. Thank you very very much for your help and being patient!!! :) http://static.skaip.org/img/emoticons/180x180/f6fcff/penguin.gif
[21:14] <konrados> oh, and @ioria ^ but you're not here now
[21:18] <tomreyn> welcome, konrados.
[21:25] <boffin> I recently lost a tablet and it is time to upgrade my laptop. I would love to have a surface like device that runs ubuntu.
[21:26] <EriC^^> some tablets work, there are guides online on how to get them running ubuntu
[21:26] <EriC^^> they usually involve getting it to boot with uefi 32bit, it works though
[21:27] <boffin> to be fair I am really really bad at that. For example my current laptop, a dell xps14 I have been unable to make the touchpad work.
[21:27] <boffin> And of course dell sells the xps13 with ubuntu on it.
[21:27] <boffin> I was sad to see they quit making the 14.
[21:42] <jhutchins_wk> boffin: Touchscreen Linux really isn't there yet.
[21:42] <jhutchins_wk> boffin: At least not a full tablet-like interface (that I've seen or heard of).
[21:45] <boffin> touchpad not touchscreen. And I have seen some impressive touch stuff for gnome.
[21:47] <nicomachus> jhutchins_wk: #ubuntu-touch would disagree with you.
[21:52] <louvetvicente> I am trying to setup VNC to control an existing X server session, instead of creating a new desktop session when someone connects to the server.. is there a tutorial for how to do this?
[21:53] <louvetvicente> The effect I want is basically what Teamviewer does, allows remote control of a computer, instead of allowing multiple sessions for the same computer (like remote desktop would do)
[21:57] <jhutchins_wk> louvetvicente: That is possible with most VNC servers, but difficult to set up on some.  xvnc can do it.
[21:57] <jhutchins_wk> louvetvicente: I believe it's usually called "shared session".
[21:58] <jhutchins_wk> louvetvicente: Sometimes it's disabled in the build.  Depends on the server.
[21:58] <louvetvicente> jhutchins_wk, thank you I will look into it.. I don't mind building from source.. but I rather find something in the apt repos
[21:58] <jhutchins_wk> louvetvicente: What is the reason for the remote GUI?
[21:59] <louvetvicente> jhutchins_wk, I am trying to allow limited access to updating some kiosk computers that were previously running ChromeOS (now running Gallium)
[21:59] <louvetvicente> updating as in changing what is displayed on the screen
[22:10] <grid-> hey
[22:10] <PTNapivoski> how...
[22:51] <Optimus_Prime> getting acpi error on boot
[22:51] <Optimus_Prime> any quick way to get out of it, its late nd i jst wanted to watch an anime on my laptop -.-
[22:52] <tomreyn> https://askubuntu.com/questions/160036/how-do-i-disable-acpi-when-booting
[22:57] <Optimus_Prime> now it just boots into busybox
[22:57] <Optimus_Prime> D:
[22:58] <Optimus_Prime> how do i get to ubuntu
[23:00] <Optimus_Prime> ugh this is too much work for tonight
[23:05] <ibmr50e-sylwek> hi, can i not have a DM?
[23:06] <ibmr50e-sylwek> i just start xserver manually from tty and it works
[23:18] <bipolar> davecore: I noticed that kernel 4.4.0-104 is in proposed. I'm testing it now in regard to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1737033
[23:36] <davecore> bipolar: great. Let me know ow how it goes.
[23:53] <bipolar> davecore: It's working. I've pushed it out via the internal repo and the workstations are functioning fine.