[00:08] <daddesio> Hi all, can somebody recommend a good IRC app for Android?
[00:20] <Kon[m]> daddesio: Atomic is the least offensive, lightweight, and is on F-Droid
[00:20] <Anticom> Hi. I'm trying to build a project. Now i get the error that the linker can't find -lz. I've searched for libz-dev etc. but couldn't find anything. Which package do i actually need?
[00:21] <daddesio> Kon[m]: Thank you so much. Anyway, I'm in a hurry, so I picked one of the first ones I saw on the Play Store. But thanks for your suggestion. :)
[00:21] <daddesio> I picked AndroIRC
[00:23] <Anticom> Is it zlibc?
[00:27] <OnkelTem> hi folks
[00:27] <OnkelTem> I have some crap in my /etc/resolv.conf created be NetworkManager
[00:28] <OnkelTem> but name resolution works!
[00:28] <OnkelTem> How that could happen?
[00:29] <deem> Anticom: there is a package called "zlib1g-dev"
[00:31] <OnkelTem> Folks
[00:31] <OnkelTem> Does anyone run Kubuntu 17.x?
[00:32] <OnkelTem> please would you pastebin the files you have in /etc/resolvconf ?
[00:32] <OnkelTem> Cuz I have a feeling that something screwed up my system
[00:32] <OnkelTem> And I can ping hosts but I can't dig them!
[00:34] <Anticom> deem: hm there is. I've installed libz-dev (although it apt show libz-dev didn't tell me anything useful it was installable)
[00:35] <Jordan_U> ylwghst: If by "Gnome 3" you mean GNOME Shell, then no. It's not possible to use Gnome Shell with Compiz as the compositor, shell, and window manager are all bound together (the same way that Unity 7 is bound to Compiz). If you want to use all of the GNOME3 apps while using compiz as your window manager you can do that though.
[00:37] <JeevesMoss> is there software that will average out the inputs from three GPS units?
[01:11] <davecore> bipolar: good to hear. Thanks for reporting the issue in the first place!
[01:24] <ylwghst> Jordan_U: the whole environemnt is called Gnome 3... Gnome shell application is part of the whole environemnt.
[01:25] <ylwghst> Jordan_U: I wasn't asking if I can use compiz within Gnome 3. There was someone asking for help and he stated he uses Compiz within gnome3...
[01:26] <ylwghst> I was just like gnome 3 with compiz? o really? wtf?
[01:27] <codedmart> I installed Pulse Secure Connect client which I needed to install libwebkitgtk-1.0.0. Anyone know how I can scale that on my HiDPI monitor? It is the only app that open super small?
[01:27] <ylwghst> Jordan_U: another part of whole gnome 3 stack is mutter which is the compositor deeply integrated with the other software...
[01:31] <Leevancleef> On a similar topic, why is Wayland supposed to be better than X11?
[01:32] <ylwghst> Leevancleef: I don't now much about details but the Xorg works as server applications which runs and has libraries to work with your hardware...
[01:33] <kk4ewt> Leevancleef, google the difference
[01:35] <Leevancleef> Been there, done that, kk4ewt. Thanks for spending your time writing that helpful suggestion.
[01:35] <ylwghst> Wayland it's just protocol - a set of rules and libraries to work with the hardware which can be used by other applications.
[01:38] <Leevancleef> Yeah, my impression is that Wayland is supposed to remove a step from the process, but it's somewhat arcane to me
[01:38] <ylwghst> From the Wayland project on Github:
[01:39] <ylwghst> well its here https://github.com/wayland-project/wayland
[01:40] <ylwghst> the compositor can acts like the server by its self and can communicate with clients - apps
[01:45] <ylwghst> It's working much more better on my system. I always had problems with tearing on Xorg, there's no way to completely tear free experience. On wayland the issue is completely gone. The performance of my GPU is also much more better on wayland ( i currently use nouveau which has very poor performance but much better on Wayland ).
[01:49] <ylwghst> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X.Org_Server#/media/File:The_Linux_Graphics_Stack_and_glamor.svg
[01:51] <Leevancleef> ylwghst, that's good news for those of us on Nvidia
[02:00] <ylwghst> I just wonder what will be with nvidia's proprietary drivers.
[02:03] <k_sze> How do I get Ubuntu to load the proprietary nvidia drivers from the graphics-drivers PPA when the NVIDIA card is not the primary display card?
[02:03] <k_sze> I have the drivers installed, but they are currently not loaded (lsmod does not list them)
[02:04] <ylwghst> k_sze: look for Bumblebee
[02:06] <k_sze> In fact, currently, if I run `sudo modprobe nvidia_387`, I get "modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'nvidia_387': No such device"
[02:06] <k_sze> Is that even normal?
[02:06] <k_sze> `lspci` *does* list my card though.
[02:07] <ylwghst> k_sze: try sudo modprobe nvidia
[02:07] <k_sze> ylwghst: same
[02:08] <ylwghst> are you talking about laptop right?
[02:08] <k_sze> no, desktop.
[02:11] <k_sze> Maybe I just need to reboot it. :/
[02:11] <ylwghst> which kernel ?
[02:13] <k_sze> Linux m-desktop 4.13.0-17-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Mon Nov 6 10:04:08 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:13] <k_sze> And this machine doesn't have UEFI Safeboot enabled
[02:14] <k_sze> So I don't need the uefi driver signing steps.
[02:14] <ylwghst> does 387 work with 4.13?
[02:14] <ylwghst> could you try NVIDIA 384.59 instead ?
[02:16] <bemo> new to ubuntu 14.04 (pre-installed at work) and having an odd problem -- not sure what I did, but the background image I had previously selected seems to have become illusive (if I use <ctrl>-<alt>-<down_arrow>, I can see it, but if I select any of the desktops, it disappears again).
[02:18] <cfoch> hello
[02:18] <cfoch> I am using Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS  (server) in QEMU
[02:19] <bemo> (I had previously had a problem with no icons or folders showing up either, and following these instructions fixed it: https://askubuntu.com/questions/893233/ubuntu-desktop-folders-icons-and-files-are-not-visible)
[02:19] <cfoch> I want to connect to my virtual machine via ssh but for some reason the IP of my virtual machine does not work
[02:19] <cfoch> any idea?
[02:19] <ylwghst> cfoch: why are you on 14.04?
[02:20] <cfoch> because I have a software that only works in Ubuntu 14.04
[02:20] <t0no6a> cfoh : you need a bridge network
[02:20] <ylwghst> o sorry it was for bemo
[02:20] <ylwghst> bemo: why are you on 14.04?
[02:20] <bemo> (worked great for a while, and then something I did seems to have triggered the background to disappear again -- though I can still see icons and and folders)
[02:20] <bemo> ylwghst: because that's what they support at my work... :-|
[02:21] <bemo> and figured I'd ask the experts before I ask *them* for help.  :)
[02:21] <ylwghst> bemo:  try this
[02:21] <ylwghst> feh --bg-fill /path/to/image.file
[02:21] <t0no6a> cfoch : https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-create-bridge-interface-ubuntu-linux/
[02:21] <bemo> ylwghst: do I need to install "feh"?
[02:22] <ylwghst> probably yes
[02:22] <aloo_shu> bemo which desktop env?
[02:22] <bemo> I was using one of the stock images -- happen to know where they are?
[02:23] <bemo> probably a silly question, but... how do I know which desktop?    oh, wait... lightdm?
[02:23] <aloo_shu> at /usr/share/???
[02:23] <ylwghst> they should be in /usr/share/background
[02:24] <bemo> pstree shows "lightdm" with a "cinamon-launch"... as a child (and a bunch of others)
[02:24] <aloo_shu> where ??? may be background/ , wallpaper/
[02:24] <aloo_shu> cinnamon then
[02:24] <ylwghst> bemo:  sorry it;s
[02:24] <ylwghst> /usr/share/backgrounds
[02:25] <Leevancleef> ylwghst, I've continued reading up on the Wayland situation, and it seems any performance increase is limited to Nouveau. OpenGL seems totally unsupported in Wayland with Nvidia's proprietary drivers, which for better or worse do offer superior performance to Nouveau.
[02:25] <Leevancleef> https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2017/10/plasmawayland-and-nvidia-2017-edition/
[02:25] <bemo> ylwghst: feh --bg-fill /usr/share/backgrounds/gnome/Road.jpg
[02:25] <ylwghst> Leevancleef: definitely
[02:25] <bemo> still shows a generic background (not the roads background)
[02:26] <cfoch> t0no6a: I have to do that in the VM right?
[02:26] <bemo> aloo_shu: not sure if that answered your question on the desktop
[02:26] <aloo_shu> usually right click on empty desktop space shows options like set image
[02:26] <Leevancleef> I also think this division on Wayland compatibility will also hurt Nouveau by furthering the rift between FOSS driver developers and the Nvidia team
[02:27] <bemo> aloo_shu: it does, and I've selected different images -- nothing happens  (which is different behavior from what I was seeing earlier today, where it would slowly fade from one background image to another)
[02:28] <aloo_shu> there could be something in workspaces settings, too, like use same/different background per workspace aka virtual desktop, bemo
[02:29] <aloo_shu> or a setting if you have slideshow or single image
[02:29] <aloo_shu> or both
[02:29] <bemo> still poking around -- not seeing anything obvious
[02:30] <ylwghst> bemo: anyway would be good to update your ubuntu to 16.04
[02:30] <bemo> (and as far as I know -- I didn't *change* anything to make it behave differently -- it *feels* like it was a side-effect of me trying to drag a nautilus icon to chrome.
[02:30] <bemo> ylwghst: okay, was hoping that wasn't the solution... :)
[02:30] <bemo> thanks
[02:31] <t0no6a> cfoch : no, on the host
[02:32] <ylwghst> bemo: well it's not a good solution to your problem but if you do not rely on something really specific there is no reason to stay on 14.04 which isn't supported nowadays...
[02:32] <cfoch> t0no6a: I have Fedora on the host :-/ is it the best place to ask?
[02:32] <bemo> think I'll try the previous "dconf reset" solution I had tried before, since that fixed a tangentially similar problem earlier this morning.
[02:33] <bemo> ylwghst: it's a build system and our internal folks haven't blessed a newer version of ubuntu yet (though I think they're still working on it)
[02:33] <ylwghst> Leevancleef: and no CUDA computations with nouveau..
[02:33] <ylwghst> bemo:  I see
[02:33] <bemo> ylwghst: thanks for the help!
[02:34] <bemo> aloo_shu: thanks to you as well... off to go see if I can break something now
[02:34] <pauljw> bemo, 14.04 is supported until 2019.  whatever you did, you should be able to fix without upgrading which can bring a whole lot of other issues with it.
[02:34] <aloo_shu> bemo you haven't played with running a graphical session as root, have you?
[02:34] <bemo> aloo_shu: no
[02:34] <bemo> pauljw: it's a "silly" thing to be worrying about on a work computer, since it's functioning normally otherwise.
[02:34] <ylwghst> ok
[02:35] <bemo> anyway, let me try this solution again, and see if it helps:  https://askubuntu.com/questions/893233/ubuntu-desktop-folders-icons-and-files-are-not-visible
[02:35] <bemo> be back in a bit...
[02:35] <pauljw> understand bemo, i wouldn't lose sleep over it, just keep looking for an answer.
[02:36] <bemo> pauljw: thanks.
[02:37] <ylwghst> pauljw: bemo: but 14.04 doesn't uses Compiz or ?
[02:38] <ylwghst> he is reseting /org/compiz/ key
[02:38] <bemo> ylwghst: <shrug> what I do know is that when I couldn't see things I was dropping on my desktop with nautilus, I tried that, and it fixed my problem.
[02:38] <bemo> be back in a few... will let you know if it helped.  :)
[02:39] <aloo_shu> some DEs implement compiz features
[02:39] <aloo_shu> so maybe use keys
[02:39] <aloo_shu> or it was some side effect
[02:40] <ylwghst> oh wait
[02:40] <ylwghst> heis on cinnamon right
[02:40] <bemo> ylwghst: yes
[02:41] <bemo> ylwghst: ... just about to "shutdown -r now"... any new insights?  :)
[02:41] <ylwghst> bemo: kill -9 -1 should be enough
[02:41] <aloo_shu> no more insights after that
[02:41] <bemo> ylwghst: okay... doing it now  ;-)
[02:43] <cfoch> may be something just blocking my connection to the virtual machine IP?
[02:43] <LogicalDash> I have an 8bitdo FC30 Pro controller. I made a udev rule for it, and when I plug it in, an event for it shows up in the system log; but I don't find an actual device file for it afterward. How can I troubleshoot this?
[02:45] <ylwghst> bemo: dconf reset -f /org/nemo/
[02:46] <ylwghst> bemo: this should revert your nemo settings
[02:47] <ylwghst> i mean
[02:47] <ylwghst> dconf reset -f /org/nemo/
[02:47] <bemo> was it the dconf command or the reboot?  not sure... but it's working again.
[02:47] <bemo> thanks for the help.
[02:47] <ylwghst> who nows :-)
[02:47] <ylwghst> kill -9 -1 only logs you out of your session
[02:48] <bemo> "kill -9 -1" eventually rebooted my machine... after some complaints from some Modem somethin' or other...
[02:48] <ylwghst> strange..
[02:48] <bemo> I did eventually try ctrl-alt-delete while waiting for about 30 second with no activity... so maybe *that* rebooted it
[02:49] <bemo> anyway, thanks again for the help -- time to go eat.  :)
 cya
[03:11]  * aloo_shu o/
[06:57] <tubal> Hello. I just had a Wayland session freeze on me, so I'm wondering if there's a way to kill a Wayland session a  la ctrl-alt-backspace with Xorg?
[07:10] <R0b0t1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cyrus
[07:11] <R0b0t1> Under "Mailbox creation" I try to use cyradm but I am informed I can not connect to the server
[07:11] <R0b0t1> I am not sure cyrus is running
[07:11] <R0b0t1> the only service that installed was cyrus-imapd
[07:18] <R0b0t1> cOkay
[07:19] <R0b0t1> Okay*
[07:19] <R0b0t1> Cyrus does not run
[07:19] <R0b0t1> Despite the init script reporting no error
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> R0b0t1: perhaps the #cyrus channel might know that?
[07:22] <R0b0t1> lotuspsychje: I will ask there, but Ubuntu adds so much configuration to most packages that the project maintainers for a specific piece of software often do not want to help
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> R0b0t1: i never said you cant get any help here
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> R0b0t1: best way to get help is idle here and ask your issue all in one line with all details, ubuntu version, kernel version, steps taken,etc
[07:23] <R0b0t1> Here are logs: https://bpaste.net/show/614b4bc0a030
[07:24]  * R0b0t1 sighs
[07:25] <alkisg> Good morning everyone
[07:25] <JoeRW> Good everyone.
[07:26] <R0b0t1> Morning everyone, good?
[07:26] <JoeRW> Everything is good so far. Just doing a complete reinstall of all my software so it's a little slow-going.
[07:29] <rainbowwarrior> Hi, what is the best thing to use to connect to a  smart lg tv in Ubuntu 17.10 please?
[07:33] <Exterminador> help! my laptop has windows 10 and Xubuntu + Ubuntu on it. I've updated Windows this morning but know it have entered in grub rescue mode with: error: no such partition. what should I do?
[07:34] <Exterminador> s/know/now
[07:36] <alkisg> !grub
[07:36] <EriC^^> Exterminador: boot a live usb to trouble shoot
[07:36] <hateball> Exterminador: iirc I've seen others with the same problem, that Windows murders the bootloader. I think EriC^^ knows these things, so hang around til he is here maybe
[07:36] <alkisg> First link there
[07:36] <hateball> oh
[07:36] <hateball> !cookie | EriC^^
[07:36] <EriC^^> :D
[07:38] <Exterminador> erm, I must see if I still have a usb with Ubuntu or Xubuntu
[07:39] <EriC^^> Exterminador: if you're getting grub rescue, it means you still have grub somewhere so its likely a efi install, and since you're getting grub rescue it means it cant find either efi/...grub.cfg or it cant find the /boot/grub files (which would be the worst case, especially if you dont have a separate /boot)
[07:41] <EriC^^> likely windows nuked the linux rootfs, try typing "ls" in grub rescue>
[07:43] <Exterminador> got this https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/f3WWvQWS/irccloudcapture1819509855.jpg
[07:44] <EriC^^> Exterminador: that looks good
[07:44] <EriC^^> it's a msdos install
[07:45] <EriC^^> Exterminador: try ls (hd0,msdos4)/
[07:45] <V7> is it possible to achieve something like this:
[07:45] <EriC^^> i mean msdos3
[07:45] <V7> killall --ppid $$ calc ?
[07:45] <V7> Is it possible to kill all subprocesses with specified names (not pids)
[07:45] <EriC^^> sounds like a linux question more than ubuntu
[07:45] <V7> yup
[07:46] <V7> noone answers there and in #bash
[07:46] <V7> So I've asked here
[07:46] <Exterminador> EriC^^: unknown filesystem.
[07:47] <EriC^^> Exterminador: try "insmod ext2"
[07:47] <EriC^^> Exterminador: try also ls (hd0,msdos5)/
[07:49] <Exterminador> the (hd0,msdos5)/ also gave the same error
[07:50] <EriC^^> Exterminador: does echo $prefix show anything?
[07:52] <Exterminador> it says: `echo (hd0,msdos7)/boot/grub`>
[07:52] <EriC^^> Exterminador: aye
[07:52] <EriC^^> i think windows nuked your rootfs
[07:52] <rainbowwarrior> hi, where can i get skype or alterntivie for ubuntu 17.10?
[07:53] <EriC^^> Exterminador: make a live usb and come back here, your best best is that it just deleted the partition and you can restore it easily
[07:54] <Exterminador> EriC^^: okay. I think I have the Xubuntu USB somewhere in the drawer.
[07:54] <EriC^^> k
[07:55] <alkisg> rainbowwarrior: in the skype web site, there's a .deb you can download
[07:58] <Exterminador> found it && booting into it
[07:58] <EraserPencil> Whats password manager do you guys use. I'm having trouble integrating it into my workflow
[07:59] <EriC^^> kpassx is a good one, ive heard
[08:00] <ducasse> do you mean keepassx? it's sort of dead, try keepassxc..
[08:00] <rainbowwarrior> ty alkisg
[08:00] <EraserPencil> I'm using keepassxc, but it's based on manual entry and it's not really working for me
[08:02] <EraserPencil> I have keyed in the titles and url to github and github.com respectively. But when I use github credentials to log in to other websites, like git kraken or something they dont work
[08:03] <ducasse> EraserPencil: there's a scripted thingy based on rofi and pass that looked really good, but it depends on your workflow...
[08:04] <Exterminador> EriC^^: booted into live xubuntu usb
[08:07] <EriC^^> Exterminador: type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999"
[08:07] <Exterminador> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/ea9i
[08:08] <EriC^^> Exterminador: ok, seems like the rootfs partition is deleted
[08:08] <EriC^^> let's try to mount it blindly
[08:09] <Exterminador> okay
[08:10] <EriC^^> Exterminador: type "sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print | nc termbin.com 9999"
[08:10] <Exterminador> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/0snx
[08:15] <Exterminador> it's so weird how a simple windows update have done this. :/
[08:15] <EriC^^> Exterminador: for i in {662196222..663000000}; do echo trying $i; sudo mount -o offset=$(( $i * 512 )) /dev/sda /mnt 2>/dev/null && echo success && break; done
[08:15] <EriC^^> Exterminador: type the whole command above and take note if it says success and the number before it
[08:15] <EriC^^> yup
[08:16] <Exterminador> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/28hG7ppz/
[08:16] <Exterminador> this is the result of the cmd you gave me
[08:18] <EriC^^> Exterminador: try "ls -l /mnt" do you see your linux install there? /home /boot /etc
[08:19] <Exterminador> EriC^^: looks fine?  https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/F6VjAudo/
[08:20] <EriC^^> Exterminador: yup, type "sudo umount /mnt"
[08:20] <Exterminador> done
[08:20] <EriC^^> Exterminador: then type "sudo fdisk /dev/sda"
[08:21] <EriC^^> press "n" make a new partition and make sure it's a logical one and the starting sector is 662196224
[08:22] <Exterminador> First sector (662198270-976771071, default 662198272), so, i type the 662196224 and enter?
[08:23] <EriC^^> hmm
[08:23] <EriC^^> that's outside
[08:24] <Exterminador> i have Windows 10, Xubuntu (not sure if /dev/sda5 or 6) and Ubuntu (/dev/sda7)
[08:25] <EriC^^> Exterminador: oh
[08:26] <Exterminador> i think Xubuntu and Ubuntu are inside a logical partition already, splitted in 2
[08:26] <EriC^^> Exterminador: exit fdisk, type "sudo apt-add-repository universe && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install testdisk"
[08:26] <Exterminador> okay
[08:27] <Exterminador> EriC^^: installed
[08:27] <EriC^^> Exterminador: sudo testdisk
[08:27] <EriC^^> no log > no log > Intel > analyze
[08:28] <EriC^^> choose the disk ^
[08:29] <Exterminador> EriC^^: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/BMeT0mZs/
[08:30] <EriC^^> Exterminador: press enter then do a quick search
[08:31] <Exterminador> 42%
[08:31] <Exterminador> it's kinda slow this laptop
[08:32] <EriC^^> it takes time usually
[08:32] <EriC^^> man windows is pretty precise though, it deleted both ext partitions, and left the swap intact
[08:32] <Exterminador> EriC^^ https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/C4PQT0tx/
[08:36] <EriC^^> Exterminador: ok, using the arrows on the kb, make the 2nd one (D hpfs) into a P
[08:37] <Exterminador> done
[08:38] <EriC^^> Exterminador: you also want the lower hpfs a P too
[08:38] <EriC^^> HPFS - NTFS          25309 200 44 ..
[08:39] <Exterminador> when changing it: Structure: Bad.
[08:39] <Exterminador> but it's changed tho
[08:39] <EriC^^> Exterminador: np, is it P right now
[08:39] <EriC^^> ok
[08:39] <EriC^^> go to Linux                41219 206 12 50761 117 44  153286656
[08:39] <EriC^^> make it a L or LC whatever its called
[08:40] <EriC^^> as well as the 2 ones below it, linux and swap
[08:40] <ylwghst> This looks dramatic...
[08:40] <Exterminador> it's like this now. correct? https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/OtWIu8pS/
[08:42] <EriC^^> Exterminador: yeah, are you able to do anything with the first Linux Swap ?
[08:42] <EriC^^> possibly make it an "E" ?
[08:43] <Exterminador> D, L, P or * only
[08:43] <EriC^^> try "L"
[08:43] <EriC^^> actually nevermind
[08:43] <EriC^^> leave it D, it overlaps the linux under it
[08:44] <EriC^^> Exterminador: write the new partition table
[08:44] <EriC^^> then run sudo partprobe /dev/sda
[08:44] <Exterminador> okay
[08:45] <Exterminador> brb call
[08:52] <Exterminador> EriC^^: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/SFXQKjD9/
[08:55] <Exterminador> it's ok to reboot?
[08:56] <EriC^^> Exterminador: yeah try to reboot
[08:57] <Exterminador> gone into rescue mode again :/
[08:58] <Exterminador> don't tell me I need to reinstall it all over again :x
[08:58] <EriC^^> Exterminador: nah, boot the live usb so we can see the partition table again
[08:59] <Exterminador> okay
[08:59] <EriC^^> "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:00] <Exterminador> damn MS that is unable to do a proper OS!
[09:02] <dreamlinux-user> they has linux builtin
[09:06] <Exterminador> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/0e9t
[09:10] <alkisg> Extended starts at 209GB and logical at 339GB? What happened to the space between that?
[09:12] <Exterminador> good question. and all of this because of a Windows update
[09:12] <Exterminador> :x
[09:12] <alkisg> Eh, sometimes something else is to blame and not what we think it is :)
[09:13] <Exterminador> alkisg: been working without a flaw for the last 6 months
[09:13] <alkisg> Sure
[09:13] <alkisg> Everything works before it breaks
[09:13] <Exterminador> until i decided to update the damn windows :/
[09:14] <Exterminador> sudo testdik -> paste.ubuntu.com/26175571/a
[09:14] <EriC^^> Exterminador: try sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt && cat /mnt/etc/issue
[09:15] <EriC^^> alkisg: it's not the first time someone has come here with 'just updated windows, my linux partition is missing'
[09:15] <alkisg> For example, maybe your partitioning was wrong all that time, and it didn't trigger any issues in Linux, but it triggered a bug in windows update. No point in putting the blame to some software before reproducing the issue...
[09:15] <Exterminador> EriC^^: Ubuntu 17.10 \n \l
[09:16] <rocketeer> What can I do if input to my laptop is severely buggy? When it boots up, it can fail to detect the trackpad, keyboard, or both, and if I suspend it it's a crapshoot which will work after resume
[09:16] <rocketeer> The only input device that works every time is the touchscreen, oddly enough
[09:16] <EriC^^> Exterminador: ok, try sudo umount /mnt && sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt && cat /mnt/etc/issue
[09:17] <rocketeer> When they're not working, xinput --list won't list the ones that are not working, and they'll also be missing from /proc/bus/input/devices
[09:17] <EriC^^> alkisg: this was his old pt before testdisk http://termbin.com/ea9i
[09:18] <Exterminador> EriC^^: same output tho
[09:18] <EriC^^> he did have missing space (good spot btw), but nothing really 'unusual'
[09:18] <EriC^^> Exterminador: ok, good, so the locations of the partitions are correct right now
[09:18] <alkisg> Exterminador: do you remember having another partition, that testdisk may discover now if you run it again?
[09:18] <EriC^^> type sudo umount /mnt
[09:19] <Exterminador> done
[09:19] <alkisg> EriC^^: maybe tell him to run debsums in a chroot to verify disk/package integrity?
[09:19] <EriC^^> alkisg: this was testdisk's last output before we wrote the new pt https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/OtWIu8pS/
[09:19] <EriC^^> alkisg: i think only the partition table was deleted
[09:20] <EriC^^> we could try to see if there's a fs in the missing space
[09:20] <alkisg> Sometimes testdisk finds wrong sizes etc though, so the new partition table may be different to what he had before the issue
[09:20] <EriC^^> Exterminador: try sudo mount -o offset=$((407539711 * 512)) /dev/sda /cdrom && ls /cdrom
[09:21] <alkisg> Heh, nice trick that one with /cdrom :D
[09:21] <EriC^^> yeah comes in handy :D
[09:21] <EriC^^> Exterminador: sorry typo
[09:22] <EriC^^> Exterminador: try sudo mount -o offset=$((407539712 * 512)) /dev/sda /cdrom && ls /cdrom
[09:23] <EriC^^> Exterminador: you possibly need to chroot now and run update-grub that's why you're still getting grub rescue> the partition numbering in $prefix changed
[09:23] <Exterminador> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/9AAWCfbc/
[09:23] <EriC^^> Exterminador: try the mount offset, we'll fix grub, then try seeing if there's some missing fs in that space like we did earlier
[09:24] <EriC^^> Exterminador: which one is your main os, ubuntu or xubuntu?
[09:25] <Exterminador> usually was Xubuntu
[09:25] <EriC^^> Exterminador: ok try ls /mnt/home and try to figure out if its the xubuntu one
[09:26] <Exterminador> nope. it's the Ubuntu one. only 2 users. Xubuntu had 3
[09:26] <EriC^^> Exterminador: ok, type sudo umount /mnt && sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt
[09:27] <Exterminador> done
[09:27] <EriC^^> Exterminador: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[09:27] <Exterminador> done
[09:28] <EriC^^> Exterminador: sudo chroot /mnt
[09:28] <EriC^^> then "grub-install --recheck /dev/sda && update-grub"
[09:28] <Exterminador> running last cmd
[09:29] <Exterminador> oops.. my Xubuntu disappeared
[09:30] <Exterminador> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26175644/
[09:30] <EriC^^> that's ubuntu
[09:30] <EriC^^> xubuntu is already found
[09:31] <Exterminador> oh
[09:31] <Exterminador> last time it was on sda7, the Ubuntu
[09:32] <EriC^^> Exterminador: yeah no worries
[09:32] <EriC^^> Exterminador: you have 130gb of space that's unallocated right now
[09:32] <Exterminador> uh.. how to solve that?
[09:32] <EriC^^> we could search for any missing filesystems, or if you're sure you have everything already, you could just create a partition and use the space somehow
[09:33] <Exterminador> perhaps better check, just in case?
[09:34] <EriC^^> Exterminador: try "sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt && cat /etc/fstab /mnt/etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:35] <Exterminador> mount: /mnt: /dev/sda6 already mounted on /mnt.
[09:35] <geodb27> People : hi ! I'm struggling with the install of my new laptop under kubuntu. On my old one, I was using quasselcore with a postgresql database. I've migrated the old database to my new laptop, however, quasselcore doesn't seem to be abble to use postgresql database driver. What package am I missing do use it as I want ?
[09:36] <EriC^^> Exterminador: odd
[09:36] <Exterminador> nc: getaddrinfo for host "termbin.com" port 9999: Name or service not known
[09:36] <Exterminador> also this
[09:37] <EriC^^> Exterminador: ok, first things first, try rebooting and see how it goes
[09:37] <Exterminador> okay
[09:37] <Exterminador> doing that now
[09:41] <Exterminador> it found Ubuntu, Ubuntu 17.10 and Windows 10
[09:41] <Exterminador> Ubuntu 17.10 seems to be Xubuntu
[09:42] <EriC^^> is that what you wanted?
[09:43] <Exterminador> confirmed. 17.10 is Xubuntu and booted successfully and all apps & users are there. I'll try Ubuntu now and so on. I'll report back any errors/issues that I may found
[09:45] <Exterminador> EriC^^: how can I see if it's Xubuntu or Ubuntu dealing with the bootloader?
[09:47] <EriC^^> Exterminador: not sure you can
[09:47] <Exterminador> is that right now the boot menu appears with a purple (?) background and before it was a black one. I suppose now it's Ubuntu dealing with it
[09:48] <EriC^^> yeah
[09:48] <Exterminador> so anything I must use grub customizer on Ubuntu and not in Xubuntu
[09:48] <EriC^^> boot into the one you want as the main os, an run sudo grub-install /dev/sda && sudo update-grub and you should be good
[09:49] <Exterminador> oh, okay then. I'll try it now tho
[09:49] <Exterminador> all seems to be working fine. still need to check windows
[09:52] <Exterminador> let's see what happens now. Windows says: Working on updates 34%
[09:52] <Exterminador> ROFL. let's see if it breaks stuff again
[09:54] <Exterminador> I'll give feedback as soon as Window$ have finished with the updating
[09:54] <edulix> hello people. Maybe someone can know why some packages have disappeared from the archives? for example in http://ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/python-pip/ there's no python3-pip_1.5.6-5ubuntu2_all.deb anymore, only an older version (1.5.4)
[09:55] <edulix> and also much newer versions
[09:58] <Exterminador> thanks for all the help provided EriC^^. 😃
[09:59] <EriC^^> Exterminador: no problem :)
[09:59] <Exterminador> I'll save the logs of this issue for future reference also. can be useful later on
[10:05] <alkisg> edulix: packages.ubuntu.com/python-pip
[10:06] <alkisg> Those are the packages that are needed in the archive
[10:06] <alkisg> The others are obsolete and are removed from the mirrors
[10:06] <edulix> alkisg: 1.5.6 is obsolete but 1.5.4 is not? I don't understand. I mean for trusty. it just disappeared
[10:07] <alkisg> edulix: right, 1.5.6 could be for 14.10, so when it went EOL, it was removed
[10:07] <edulix> alkisg: I see thanks
[10:07] <alkisg> np
[10:07] <edulix> alkisg: is there any way I can check that?
[10:07] <alkisg> Click on each package, it will get you the publication history
[10:08] <alkisg> edulix: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/python-pip
[10:08] <alkisg> Check "releases in ubuntu", those are for trusty only
[10:08] <alkisg> And similar for the other releases
[10:09] <ducasse> !info python3-pip trusty | edulix
[10:10] <alkisg> edulix: see also for vivid, the 1.5.6 you were looking for: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+source/python-pip
[10:10] <edulix> alkisg: so those packages are not anywhere anymore right?
[10:10] <alkisg> edulix: there are in launchpad, but not in the mirrors
[10:10] <alkisg> So you can download the .debs, but not use an apt repository
[10:10] <edulix> alkisg: oh awesome
[10:11] <alkisg> edulix: so e.g. if you follow the clicks, you end up to the deb here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-pip/1.5.6-5ubuntu2/+build/7083213
[10:11] <edulix> alkisg: where did you click to go from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+source/python-pip to there?
[10:12] <alkisg> Releases in Ubuntu => 1.5.6-5ubuntu2
[10:12] <alkisg> Then        Builds                Vivid:                                     amd64
[10:13] <edulix> thanks alkisg
[10:13] <alkisg> np
[10:14] <alkisg> edulix: note that some dependencies may not be satisfied if you try to install a .deb from 14.10 to 14.04, resulting in broken apt
[10:14] <edulix> alkisg: thanks
[10:23] <Lavinho> good morning
[10:24] <Lavinho> how to install ubuntu 17.10 on lenovo ideapad 120s-14lbr ?
[10:48] <jojantti> hi! is there a way to use regex in aptdcon package installation? i tried this:  " yes | sudo aptdcon --hide-terminal --install ^libxcb.* "
[10:48] <jojantti> i also tried escaping the special characters and adding single quotes
[10:49] <mnbvcxz> jojantti: escape your ass
[10:49] <Ben64> can do it with apt
[10:50] <jojantti> Ben64: yeah but i would like to use aptdcon if it's possible in any way
[10:50] <Ben64> why
[10:52] <jojantti> Ben64: because when done in a shell script apt-get sometimes fails to a lock that is in use after apt update. i would have to create a sleep loop for the lock to release and that is not something i want to do.
[10:53] <alkisg> jojantti: you can query with apt and execute with aptdcon
[10:53] <alkisg> I.e. ask apt with regex, then use the result on aptdcon
[10:53] <N3X15> If you're using a shell script, you might want to consider using the python bindings for apt, as well.
[10:54] <N3X15> Or the language of your choice.
[10:54] <jojantti> alkisg: hmm thanks, i will have to see if that could be done in a sensible manner in the script
[10:55] <jojantti> N3X15: i need to stick to just bash in this task
[10:55] <N3X15> My condolences :P
[10:55] <jojantti> :-)
[10:56] <alkisg> jojantti: dpkg-query -W hto* => htop	2.0.1-1ubuntu1
[10:56] <mnbvcxz> omg poop
[10:57] <Exterminador> all seems to work well now! thanks again for all the fish! xD
[10:57] <mnbvcxz> Exterminador: eat poop
[10:58] <jojantti> alkisg: doesn't dpkg-query show what i have currently installed?
[10:58] -mnbvcxz:#ubuntu- i am ban evading
[10:59] <alkisg> jojantti: afaik no
[10:59] <alkisg> jojantti:  dpkg-query -W ep* | awk '$2=="" { print $1 }'
[11:00] <alkisg> This should show epiphany browser etc
[11:00] <alkisg> Whatever starts with ep that you don't have installed
[11:00] <jojantti> alkisg: hmm ok
[11:01] <jojantti> alkisg: thanks
[11:01] <alkisg> np
[11:03] <alkisg> jojantti: hm, dpkg-query does show only a limited set of packages; looking into it...
[11:09] <alkisg> jojantti: apt-cache pkgnames ep
[11:31] <jojantti> alkisg: yeah that's what i thought ;-)
[12:05] <funyun> hi. i'm trying to upgrade from vivid to xenial. i followed this guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades) but i get "An upgrade from 'vivid' to 'xenial' is not supported with this tool" when i do "do-release-upgrade". anyone know how i can update?
[12:18] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:37] <Ben64> funyun: you have to go from vivid to wily to xenial
[12:43] <ignacio> Hello; I need some help, somehow my hdmi monitor is no longer detected in ubuntu 17.10, It was yesterday
[12:44] <tatertots> ignacio: open terminal
[12:45] <ignacio> tatertots, I'm there
[12:45] <tatertots> ignacio: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|nc termbin.com 9999
[12:46] <ignacio> cat: /var/log/Xorg.0.log: No such file or directory
[12:46] <tatertots> ignacio: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..say so
[12:46] <tatertots> ignacio: sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[12:46] <tatertots> ignacio: let me know when its done
[12:47] <auser_> hello everyone, i rebooted my system in rescue mode because it won't boot
[12:47] <ignacio> done t
[12:47] <ignacio> done tatertots
[12:47] <auser_> i dont see the hdd in df -h https://i.imgur.com/1w6dDpA.png
[12:47] <auser_> does it mean the hdd died or ?
[12:47] <tatertots> ignacio: inxi -Fxxprzc0|nc termbin.com 9999
[12:47] <tatertots> ignacio: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..say so
[12:47] <ignacio> tatertots, http://termbin.com/oft3
[12:48] <EriC^^> auser_: no, try sudo parted -l
[12:48] <auser_> thanks EriC^^, it says Error: /dev/sda: unrecognised disk label
[12:49] <EriC^^> auser_: nothing else?
[12:49] <EriC^^> auser_: try " dmesg | grep sda | nc termbin.com 9999"
[12:50] <tatertots> ignacio: ls /var/log|pastebinit
[12:50] <auser_> it shows : dmesg | grep sda | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:50] <auser_> http://termbin.com/pyay
[12:50] <ignacio> tatertots, ls /var/log|pastebinit
[12:50] <auser_> EriC^^,
[12:51] <EriC^^> auser_: looks fine, try "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999"
[12:51] <tatertots> ignacio: url/link here
[12:51] <auser_>  sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:51] <auser_> http://termbin.com/77f5
[12:51] <ignacio> tatertots, http://paste.ubuntu.com/26176570/
[12:52] <EriC^^> auser_: try "cat /proc/partitions | nc termbin.com 9999"
[12:53] <auser_> http://termbin.com/90yt
[12:53] <auser_> got that EriC^^
[12:53] <tatertots> ignacio: had any hardware or software changes been made prior to the symptom occurring?
[12:53] <ignacio> nope
[12:53] <tatertots> ignacio: does the symptom occur when booted to livecd/liveusb?
[12:53] <ignacio> should I try on xorg instead of wayland?
[12:53] <ignacio> I don't have one and I don't see that practical
[12:53] <tatertots> ignacio: ues try on xorg
[12:53] <EriC^^> auser_: try sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:53] <ignacio> brb
[12:54] <auser_> got this mate https://i.imgur.com/Euz34Bj.png
[12:55] <ignacio> okay I'm on xorg
[12:55] <tatertots> ignacio: inxi -Fxxprzc0|pastebinit
[12:55] <ignacio> tatertots, http://paste.ubuntu.com/26176593/
[12:56] <EriC^^> auser_: hmm no idea
[12:56] <EriC^^> why does it say virtual disk?
[12:56] <auser_> does that mean the hdd died mate?
[12:56] <EriC^^> no
[12:56] <tatertots> ignacio: ls -lh /var/log|pastebinit
[12:57] <auser_> can't really tell, during booting the normal usefi mode, i had ONE choice and i kept on getting https://i.imgur.com/bPB4rq3.png
[12:57] <ignacio> tatertots, http://paste.ubuntu.com/26176600/
[12:58] <tatertots> ignacio: sudo apt install sosreport
[12:58] <tatertots> ignacio: let me know when done
[12:59] <auser_> and when i chose the bios mode, https://i.imgur.com/hSrhBMj.png
[12:59] <ignacio> tatertots, done
[12:59] <auser_> EriC^^, so i have no idea how to fix this tbh :S
[12:59] <tatertots> ignacio: sudo sosreport
[13:00] <tatertots> ignacio: let me know when done
[13:01] <EriC^^> auser_: try asking in ##linux , ive no idea too tbh
[13:01] <tatertots> ignacio: odd..only shows 1 display, have you already checked the physical cable connections?
[13:01] <ignacio> here's the report http://people.sugarlabs.org/ignacio/pi/PHt4qAuvfZ.xz
[13:01] <ignacio> yes I have, @tatertots
[13:02] <auser_> ty EriC^^
[13:02] <EriC^^> auser_: np
[13:04] <auser_> EriC^^, i just want to repoint that I'm in recovery mode and i chose ubuntu 16.04
[13:04] <auser_> I'm not experienced with such things, but just wanted to clear that out
[13:05] <auser_> i had other choices in the rescue boot menu
[13:05] <ignacio> tatertots, i'm goign to try with a hdmi to vga adaptor
[13:07] <ignacio> the hdmi port is basically not working at all
[13:07] <tatertots> ignacio: https://gist.github.com/cdf20a179fe2146fe403dc6ad10aa4ac
[13:09] <tatertots> ignacio: https://gist.github.com/958b710f7b0ea1a6ea151210ec9ba787
[13:11] <tatertots> ignacio: ok this looks better https://gist.github.com/5c67f70c82bafac914aca1e2364372b3
[13:13] <tatertots> ignacio: has the computer been physically moved since yesterday?
[13:35] <funyun> Ben64: how do i do that?
[13:41] <funyun> anyone know how i can upgrade to wily instead of xenial?
[13:41] <funyun> i'm on vivid
[13:42] <funyun> i followed this guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades) but i get "An upgrade from 'vivid' to 'xenial' is not supported with this tool" when i do "do-release-upgrade".
[13:48] <azureus> good afternoon
[13:49] <azureus> it's possible install ubuntu on lenovo ideapad 120s -14 lbr ?
[13:49] <hateball> azureus: Probably. Have you tried?
[13:50] <azureus> I have not received it yet.
[13:51] <hateball> azureus: since it's so new you'll probably want to run 17.10 on it, and not 16.04
[13:51] <hateball> a quick google suggests it's intel and qualcomm components so shouldnt be too much of a problem probably
[13:51] <azureus> yes
[13:52] <azureus> ok
[13:52] <azureus> thank you
[13:54] <davecore> funyun: do you know that wily 15.10 is already end of life? are you sure you don't want to upgrade to Ubuntu 16.04 LTS xenial instead?
[13:55] <r81> davecore: I think he is trying to upgrade in two steps v -> w then w -> x
[13:56] <r81> funyun: did you edit sources.list to make sure it says wily instead of xenial?
[13:59] <TaZeR> i think im going to just install ubuntu on my moms laptop and when she comes home from work she will be forced to try it out
[13:59] <TaZeR> she didnt like the idea when i told her about linux, she said NO DONT CHANGE ANYTHING!!
[14:00] <hateball> That's usually not a good strategy for a smooth conversion
[14:00] <funyun> r81: i made my sources look like this tutorial says. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades should i change them?
[14:00] <funyun> davecore: yes, i need to upgrade in two steps i believe
[14:01] <TaZeR> i will make her a dual boot of course so she can easily switch back and forth
[14:01] <TaZeR> i think that will make her accept it a lot better
[14:02] <TaZeR> i might catch a beating or two still...
[14:07] <funyun> r81: i kept the codename as vivid, should i change it to wily?
[14:17] <xtron> on a custom build linux, I'm getting error <cannot execute /bin/sh: permission denied> on login screen, the only available user is "root", I can access the machine through SSH, any body have idea?
[14:23] <EriC^^> xtron: try "ls -l /bin/sh" and check the perms
[14:25] <xtron> EriC^^, lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root
[14:25] <EriC^^> xtron: ls -l $(readlink -f /bin/sh)
[14:27] <xtron> -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 871932 Dec 12 11:49 /bin/bash.bash
[14:27] <xtron> EriC^^, what we really wanna do there?
[14:27] <EriC^^> xtron: hmm looks good
[14:28] <xtron> EriC^^, what?
[14:28] <EriC^^> xtron: we're trying to see the permissions of the file that's getting executed
[14:29] <xtron> EriC^^, one thing i wanna know, why I can access using SSH, but not machine own terminal
[14:29] <EriC^^> xtron: when you access via ssh you mean using the root account?
[14:29] <EriC^^> im not that clear on what you meant, thought you meant you can login as root, but from the user you get /bin/sh permission denied
[14:30] <EriC^^> even as root from the tty you just get a permission denied /bin/sh?
[14:30] <victorbjelkholm> hm, the system preferences doesn't do anything when I try to configure printers, same when opening "Printers" from the dash. How can debug what's going wrong? There is no output in any log inside /var/log when doing it
[14:31] <xtron> EriC^^, both ways I try to login as root, as it is the only user available now, but on machine I can't login, but I can login from other machine's terminal using SHH
[14:32] <xtron> EriC^^, are you getting me, what I wanna say?
[14:34] <EriC^^> xtron: yeah
[14:35] <EriC^^> xtron: what happens if from ssh you try "sudo login root" and try to login
[14:35] <EriC^^> or just "login root"
[14:37] <xtron> EriC^^, yeah now it has problem <unable to get valid context for root>
[14:37] <xtron> <cannot make/remove an entry for the specific session>
[14:39] <victorbjelkholm> so I think my python installation somehow is borked... Getting "SyntaxError: Missing parentheses in call to 'print'" when running "system-config-printer-applet" for example. The beginning of `applet.py` starts with "#!/usr/bin/python3". Anyone have any pointers what could be wrong?
[14:40] <victorbjelkholm> "/usr/bin/python3 --version" returns "Python 3.5.2" which seems fine. Or is it not?
[14:40] <EriC^^> xtron: no idea, seems like some pam stuff, try asking in ##Linux
[14:42] <xtron> EriC^^, can you tell me, is it some thing related to permission of "sh"
[14:42] <victorbjelkholm> changed manually to python2, and now getting "SyntaxError: invalid syntax" instead. So seems this program was written for a different version of python than 2 or 3. I'm missing something here
[14:43] <xtron> I want to figure out the difference of SSH and non-SSH way,
[14:43] <victorbjelkholm> hm, seems there was a python package that broke everything. Ran "sudo pip3 uninstall gi" and now it seems solved.
[14:47] <EriC^^> xtron: the permissions look fine
[14:47] <EriC^^> xtron: it might be something related to pam authentication and stuff like that
[14:49] <xtron> EriC^^, pam authentication?? actually this is SELinux, any new idea?
[14:49] <EriC^^> xtron: nope, try asking in ##linux
[14:57] <piercedwater> Hello. I have a fresh install of Ubuntu 17.10 minimal, but no /etc/networking/interfaces file. I can't create one b/c I don't know the network details. Any suggestions?
[14:58] <DevilTiger> i'm having trouble downloading a cloud image. i've tried several that cant be extracted. winrar says the archive is corrupt
[14:59] <EriC^^> try to md5sum the file see if its right
[14:59] <EriC^^> it is a .rar archive right?
[15:00] <DevilTiger> zip
[15:00] <PTNapivoski> DevilTiger, are you on Windows?
[15:00] <DevilTiger> yes
[15:00] <DevilTiger> i ran winrar as admin
[15:00] <DevilTiger> https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/xenial/current/xenial-server-cloudimg-amd64-disk1.vhd.zip this image
[15:00] <EriC^^> DevilTiger: try to md5sum it to know it's complete
[15:00] <EriC^^> and check the maintainer's md5sum
[15:01] <EriC^^> !md5sum | DevilTiger
[15:01] <PTNapivoski> DevilTiger, you can use HashCalc for that...
[15:01] <Mr_Pan> !md5
[15:01] <EriC^^> DevilTiger: get yours from here https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/xenial/current/MD5SUMS
[15:02] <DevilTiger> ok, sec
[15:02] <skinux> Anyone know of a screensaver that shows 404 error messages?
[15:03] <mparashar> Laptop keyboard and touchpad not working on Ubuntu 17.10. 16.04 LTS works fine. ThinkPad 11e (3rd Gen). NOT a Chromebook.
[15:06] <DevilTiger> i dont see the md5 sum for that particular zip there
[15:07] <PTNapivoski> DevilTiger, neither me...
[15:09] <DevilTiger> in the zip file it says the uncompressed file is 32gb..
[15:09] <DevilTiger> something isn't right here
[15:10] <PTNapivoski> DevilTiger, .zip file with: md5 -> 6ac026fab71901a4b75f8511b05da5a9, sha1 -> 1978089e5b2cceccb7d597ac592dfb3ca4156537
[15:10] <PTNapivoski> Downloaded here...
[15:11] <PTNapivoski> DevilTiger, 7-zip tells me that the file is 32 GiB too...
[15:11] <DevilTiger> thats some compression
[15:11] <DevilTiger> am i missing something
[15:17] <PTNapivoski> DevilTiger, LZMA and LZMA2 from 7-zip are evenn better...
[15:17] <PTNapivoski> s/evenn/even
[15:17] <DevilTiger> i've just gone ahead and taken the vmdk from the ova version and converted that to vhd.
[15:18] <DevilTiger> i will compare the hash when it downloads again tho. i had deleted it
[15:18] <PTNapivoski> K
[15:19] <fishcooker> how to test the sound correctly installed?
[15:20] <PTNapivoski> fishcooker, stereo?
[15:22] <DevilTiger> @PTNapivoski: md5 matches
[15:23] <PTNapivoski> DevilTiger, try 7-zip... It is way better than WinRAR...
[15:23] <PTNapivoski> DevilTiger, and is open source...
[15:24] <fishcooker> last time i used latest kernel the sound works well... But when i use the oldest kernel the sound doesn't work PTNapivoski
[15:25] <PTNapivoski> fishcooker, well... Then keep the latest kernel...
[15:25] <DevilTiger> 7 zip doesn't seem to have a problem extracting it but it still is coming out to like 30 gb
[15:25] <DevilTiger> odd
[15:25] <PTNapivoski> DevilTiger, it is a 32 GB file...
[15:26] <PTNapivoski> DevilTiger, for me too...
[15:26] <BluesKaj> fishcooker, which audio chip?
[15:26] <DevilTiger> why though... it's a server version of ubuntu
[15:28] <anddam> hello
[15:28] <PTNapivoski> DevilTiger, I have no idea...
[15:28] <anddam> is snappy a Canonical project or something Ubuntu adopted?
[15:28] <anddam> also is it meant to be a replacemente for apt?
[15:32] <fishcooker> my part of lshw  http://paste.ubuntu.com/26177320/ PTNapivoski BluesKaj
[15:32] <fishcooker> how to test the audio hardware  works well?
[15:34] <PCatinean> Hey guys, people over at duplicity are not replying, does anyone know why when restoring a backup it gets stuck at: "Registering (mktemp) temporary file /tmp/duplicity-8rqJIt-tempdir/mktemp-fouV6u-2" when restoring with duplicity?
[15:39] <BluesKaj> fishcooker, try running sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel when running the old kernel, the intel driver loader bug is still around, and when it it loads correctly there's no output from the command.
[15:41] <nicomachus> fishcooker: 'aplay -l' should show audio devices. the GUI program "pavucontrol" can test outputs and whatnot
[15:41] <DevilTiger> i do i go about logging in these cloud images? i'm assuming when hosts are using them they're generating keypairs on creation of the container.
[15:43] <anddam> and is Core actually aimed at IoT or at having contanerized apps?
[15:43] <anddam> I wanted to have a shot at it but I noticed the download and install page is unconventional, asking to choose the actual target device (rather than an arch)
[15:43] <anddam> and then providing detailed steps
[15:54] <fishcooker> noted, for aplay nicomachus actually im on pavucontrol no sound ... Even the graphic bar moving
[15:56] <fishcooker> i did BluesKaj but doesn't work
[15:58] <fishcooker> the output of aplay http://paste.ubuntu.com/26177435/
[15:58] <funyun> hi. i just tried to upgrade from wily to xenial and i got this error. https://pastebin.com/fQRvNBkQ can this be fixed?
[15:59] <fishcooker> please funyun $ sudo apt -f install
[16:02] <funyun> fishcooker: https://pastebin.com/ZADHRABN
[16:03] <fishcooker> i think your disk is out of space gzip: stdout: No space left on device
[16:04] <fishcooker> how many kernel installed funyun
[16:04] <Allaun> is there a option to disable mounting hard drives?
[16:04] <Allaun> in the live cd
[16:04] <funyun> fishcooker: /dev/vda1                  236M  217M  6.9M  97% /boot
[16:04] <funyun> i'm not sure
[16:04] <fishcooker> what's your output of df -h Allaun
[16:05] <fishcooker> you are out of space of your /boot
[16:05] <Allaun> the problem is i have a known bad drive
[16:05] <Allaun> and it spams the output with hard link resets
[16:05] <funyun> fishcooker: is there anything i can delete?
[16:05] <fishcooker> please uninstall your uneeded kernel
[16:05] <Allaun> so it takes a hour to bot
[16:05] <Allaun> *boot
[16:06] <funyun> fishcooker: how do i find that?
[16:06] <Allaun> I could unplug the drives, but its a hassle to reattach them later
[16:06] <fishcooker> how about search grub kernel boot option, Allaun
[16:06] <Allaun> ok, i'll do that
[16:06] <fishcooker> apt autoremovne first, funyu
[16:06] <nicomachus> funyun: please paste the output of 'ls /boot' to paste.ubuntu.com and link here
[16:07] <nicomachus> fishcooker: autoremove likely won't work when /boot is full.
[16:07] <BluesKaj> fishcooker, check alsamixer and make sure automute is disabled
[16:07] <fishcooker> noted nicomachus
[16:07] <fishcooker> noted, BluesKaj
[16:08] <funyun> nimbleark: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26177477/
[16:09] <fishcooker> funyun checking
[16:10] <nicomachus> funyun: yay, easy peasy. Just remove those 3.* kernels and keep the 4.2 and 4.4
[16:10] <fishcooker> funyun: $ dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[16:11] <nicomachus> fishcooker: unnecessary
[16:11] <fishcooker> BluesKaj: how to share image like pastebinit of alsamixer output?
[16:11] <fishcooker> The graphic shows 00 number
[16:11] <fishcooker> i've selected all sound card
[16:11] <nicomachus> funyun: 'sudo apt purge linux-image-3.*'
[16:12] <fishcooker> but no luck
[16:12] <nicomachus> fishcooker: upload the image to imgur.com and link here
[16:12] <BluesKaj> fishcooker,   https://postimages.org
[16:12] <nicomachus> that works too :D
[16:12] <fishcooker> noted BluesKaj nicomachus
[16:13] <fishcooker> https://imgur.com/a/2JuIi
[16:13] <funyun> nicomachus: nice. now /boot has some space
[16:14] <fishcooker> great funyun
[16:14] <fishcooker> then apt -f install i think
[16:14] <funyun> should i do "sudo do-release-upgrade" again or is there another command?
[16:14] <BluesKaj> fishcooker, spdif out (digital) to an audio amp/receiver ? Is that what you want ?
[16:15] <nicomachus> funyun: great! now what's in /boot?
[16:15] <fishcooker> i don't understatnd ... i just want the audio to be hear
[16:16] <funyun> nicomachus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26177504/
[16:16] <nicomachus> funyun: are you trying to upgrade to a new release?
[16:16] <nicomachus> funyun: what version are you on now nd where are you trying to go?
[16:16] <funyun> nicomachus: yes. i was on vivid. so i did a dist-upgrade to wily. now i'm trying to get to xenial
[16:16] <BluesKaj> fishcooker, what kind of audio, pc speaker system or laptop?
[16:17] <fishcooker> this is laptop how to investigate?
[16:18] <nicomachus> funyun: ok, well since vivid and wiley are both EOL, you have to do it the hard way.
[16:18] <BluesKaj> nicomachus, where's the pulseaudio setting in ubuntu? i've forgotten since I use kde
[16:18] <nicomachus> !EOLUpgrade | funyun
[16:18] <nicomachus> BluesKaj: pavucontrol?
[16:18] <fishcooker> i will share my pavucontrol output
[16:19] <funyun> nicomachus: yes. that's the tutorial i followed. xenial was almost completed when i got the out of space error. should i do "sudo do-release-upgrade" again?
[16:19] <nicomachus> funyun: yes, if that's the step you were caught up on.
[16:20] <fishcooker> https://postimg.org/image/9smjyi25t/5fd78bb3/
[16:20] <funyun> nicomachus: now i get "No new release found"
[16:21] <nicomachus> fishcooker: check the "output devices" tab, and then there should be one for "configuration"
[16:22] <funyun> should i try sudo apt -f install?
[16:22] <nicomachus> funyun: did you change your sources.list?
[16:24] <funyun> nicomachus: i changed them to wily. after doing "sudo do-release-upgrade" they're now xenial
[16:24] <BluesKaj> fishcooker, set you pavucontrol to analog, not spdif digital
[16:24] <funyun> the upgrade was at about 95% when it failed due to space
[16:24] <nicomachus> funyun: run apt update and apt full-upgrade
[16:26] <fishcooker> how to do that?
[16:26] <funyun> nicomachus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26177540/ so do sudo apt autoremove correct?
[16:28] <fishcooker> it works BluesKaj
[16:28] <fishcooker> thankyo
[16:28] <fishcooker> u
[16:28] <fishcooker> pavucontrol is the best
[16:28] <BluesKaj> fishcooker, np
[16:30] <nicomachus> funyun: hld up, let's make sure we aren't going to end up in dependency hell if you do
[16:30] <funyun> okay
[16:31] <nicomachus> funyun: ok they look fine to remove
[16:35] <funyun> nicomachus: done. run run apt update and apt full-upgrade again?
[16:48] <funyun> nicomachus: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[16:52] <nicomachus> funyun: what release does 'lsb_release -a' show now?
[16:52] <funyun> nicomachus: Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS
[16:54] <nicomachus> funyun: great! so you want to go on to 17.10, right?
[16:54] <funyun> nicomachus: yes but will everything be okay since xenial failed at 95%. when it failed i got a message that things might not be okay
[16:56] <nicomachus> funyun: well, go ahead and try 'sudo apt -f install' just in case
[16:56] <funyun> nicomachus: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[16:57] <nicomachus> funyun: ok, let's move on then and hope for the best. Ideally, you backed up everything important before doing this, right?
[16:58] <nicomachus> funyun: next, you're going to have to edit the file located at /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades. There's a line that says "Prompt=LTS". Change it to "Prompt=normal"
[16:59] <nicomachus> funyun: then save the file and try 'sudo do-release-upgrade' again.
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> R0b0t1: did you get cyrus working?
[17:21] <fishcooker> how abt the progress upgrade funyun
[17:25] <R0b0t1> lotuspsychje: No, unfortunately. I did get a response in #cyrus but I had to leave
[17:27] <funyun> fishcooker: at 55% right now
[17:30] <DolphinDream> in 16.04 i get this wierd blackouts every once in a while for a seconds wehre my monitors go black.. then come back
[17:30] <DolphinDream> any ideas why? and how to fix it ?
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> DolphinDream: is your system up to date?
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> DolphinDream: check with lsb_release -a
[17:33] <DolphinDream> No LSB modules are available. - Distributor ID: Ubuntu - Description:  Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS - Release:  16.04 - Codename: xenial
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> DolphinDream: ok seems good,
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> DolphinDream: is your graphics cable well connected?
[17:34] <DolphinDream> lotuspsychje: yep
[17:34] <DolphinDream> i yanked them around and no blackout
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> DolphinDream: what kind of graphics card chipset and driver version please? (sudo lshw -C video)
[17:35] <DolphinDream> lotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/FwBC6QFq
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> DolphinDream: hmm weird it doesnt show your nvidia chipset
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> DolphinDream: can you go check your drivers at software&sources?
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> DolphinDream: or ubuntu-drivers list from terminal
[17:38] <DolphinDream> lotuspsychje: intel-microcode nvidia-384
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> DolphinDream: other drivers show in your list?
[17:39] <DolphinDream> nope
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> DolphinDream: no open source one?
[17:40] <DolphinDream> only two are listed by ubuntu-drivers list
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> DolphinDream: doublecheck from GUI software & sources maybe
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> DolphinDream: might be usefull to know if you get blackouts on the opensource driver
[17:41] <DolphinDream> what opensource driver ?
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> DolphinDream: can you check additional drivers section
[17:43] <DolphinDream> how ?
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> DolphinDream: software&sources last tab/ additional drivers
[17:44] <DolphinDream> only two are listed.. nvidia and intel-microcode (which is marked as not used)
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> DolphinDream: ok
[17:45] <DolphinDream> for nvidia there is the option to use X.Org  X server  - Nouveau display (open source)
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> DolphinDream: try the nouveau driver, reboot and see if you get blackouts there as a test
[17:46] <DolphinDream> yeah. .. i may do this sometime. it's not a good time now.
[17:46] <DolphinDream> thx for the help
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> allright
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> DolphinDream: you can also try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and perhaps blackouts might give you an error?
[17:47] <bemo> just discovered that launching nautilus while running cinnamon desktop (ubuntu 14.04) causes my background image to go away -- just curious if anybody understands why... if I use "nemo" instead, it works fine... just uninstalled nautilus, but still curious as to what might be happening.
[17:48] <DolphinDream> roger that
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> bemo: wich ubuntu flavor are you on exactly?
[17:49] <bemo> home-grown
[17:49] <bemo> (company's)
[17:49] <bemo> ... so not sure I can tell you, specifically, what has been changed
[17:50] <funyun> nicomachus, fishcooker: successfully upgraded to 17.04. thanks so much for all the help
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> bemo: well we can only support official ubuntu deriatives
[17:50] <bemo> I saw a similar problem, which is where I got the idea to just uninstall nautilus:  https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=107701
[17:50] <bemo> lotuspsychje: fair enough... thought I'd just ask/mention it.
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> bemo: is it based on mint
[17:51] <bemo> cat /etc/issue shows:  "Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS"
[17:51] <bemo> if that helps
[17:51] <ioria> funyun, 17.04 will die next month ....
[17:51] <bemo> but that's fine... no need to support it... was just a curiosity question, in case anybody happened to know what might be going on.
[17:52] <bemo> thanks for your attention!  :)
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> bemo: we support ubuntu allright
[17:52] <bemo> I don't honestly even need it fixed at this point... think I have a work-around.
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> bemo: but cinnamon is not default on ubuntu
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> bemo: so i wondered whats your base ubuntu
[17:53] <bemo> I'm still new to Ubuntu... so I probably won't be much help.
[17:53] <bemo> sorry for being "one of those guys" (who doesn't really know anything about what he's asking)  :)
[17:53] <nicomachus> funyun: keep going! one more step!
[17:53] <funyun> ioria: upgrading to 17.10 now. just happy to get to 17.04 with no issues
[17:53] <ioria> i see
[17:53] <bemo> lotuspsychje: thanks again!
[17:54] <nicomachus> ioria: he started at 15.04 I think. It's been a journey with full /boots, failed installs, /etc/update-manager edits, and manual sources.list edits! fun times.
[17:55] <ioria> nicomachus, hehe, ok
[17:55] <donofrio-g5> how do I resolve these remmina uninstallable issue - apaste.info/hi35
[17:57] <john_rambo>  How (from 16.04) can I check if secure boot is enabled and working ?
[17:57] <ioria> donofrio-g5, apt-cache policy remmina-common
[17:58] <donofrio-g5> ioria, https://apaste.info/Jk16
[17:58] <ioria> john_rambo, mokutil --sb-state
[17:59] <ioria> donofrio-g5, ask the ppa owner ? :þ
[18:00] <john_rambo> ioria: Thanks
[18:19] <yomm> Hi,  did a fresh Ubuntu 16,04 install. After installing I plugged in an external USB drive. Now, on boot, whenever that external USB drive is NOT attached my system boots into rescue/maintenance mode. Any hints ?
[18:20] <ioria> yomm, what you did with that usb drive ?
[18:21] <yomm> Ioria: nothing much. It is an older drive with sound samples on it, I just auto mounted it via xfce4/thunar
[18:22] <ioria> yomm, using xubuntu ?
[18:22] <yomm> Well I did a minimal ubuntu cd install with minimal xfce4 desktop
[18:23] <ioria> yomm, maybe not unmounted correctly
[18:24] <ioria> yomm try a fsck from recovery
[18:25] <genii> There was probably an update-grub run while the drive was plugged in and an entry was made for it. Boot up with it plugged in, then unplug it and run: sudo update-grub
[18:26] <yomm> I'll try that
[18:26] <genii> ( I've had this happen several times, forgot an external bootable was plugged in and updates triggered the update-grub )
[18:26] <ioria> genii, an entry for a data storage device ? didn't know that
[18:27] <yomm> I did do an update-grub, I was suspecting it might have been something like that
[18:27] <genii> ioria: If you have for instance a LiveUSB plugged in and update-grub runs, it will add it to the menu
[18:28] <genii> ioria: Then if you unplug it and try to boot, you just get grub CLI
[18:28] <ioria> genii, i see, tx
[18:30] <dragoscriste> Hello
[18:38] <yomm> I commented an stab entry for another USB drive and now it boots
[18:39] <yomm> fstab*
[18:39] <yomm> The grub-update tip didn't work
[18:39] <ioria> yomm, could you paste it, please ?
[18:40] <genii> yomm: If it's a drive it wants to always automount but not always plugged in, just add noauto to the fstab line in the options area
[18:41] <yomm> Ah great tip genii thank you, ioria: paste coming up !
[18:41] <yomm> /dev/sdc1 /home/yomm/Mountpnt/2TB ntfs    defaults    0   2
[18:42] <Jordan_U> genii: Running update-grub with an external drive plugged in should never lead to a configuration where you'll only get a grub shell at boot if that drive doesn't exist. It should just lead to a menuentry existing, and that menuentry won't work if you select it and the drive it corresponds to is not available.
[18:42] <ioria> yomm, so, you had attached two different usb drives ?
[18:43] <ioria> yomm, and the previous one set in fstab and then unplugged ?
[18:43] <yomm> I guess the problem was both USB drives are NTFS and the system got 'confused'
[18:44] <Jordan_U> yomm: You should always use UUIDs (or labels) in /etc/fstab and other configuration files when referring to volumes. There is no guarantee that the linux kernel will enumerate drives the same way. What was sdb today might be sdc tomorrow. If you're actively plugging in and removing drives then what was sdb 5 minutes ago might be sde now.
[18:44] <genii> Jordan_U: When the system sees the external as HD(0) it sure does.
[18:44] <quarters> hello. in the process of recovering a partition using testdisk, when writing to the partition table, my luks was converted to an ntfs partition with testdisk. I was wondering how I can convert this partition back to a luks partition
[18:44] <yomm> 2 USB drives, 1 in fstab, 1 not. When I unplugged the one that wasn't in fstab I got the rescue mode boot
[18:44] <ioria> yomm, you can get the rescur mode, when you set something in fstab that , after, the system is unable to find ....
[18:45] <quarters> I had tried to use gdisk's "t" (change partition type) option, but it's still showing up as an ntfs partition in gparted and testdisk
[18:45] <ioria> yomm, if so, it's all clear
[18:45] <Jordan_U> genii: Do you have a bug report for this? Are you possibly thinking of grub-install rather than update-grub?
[18:46] <ioria> yomm, it's my opinion, but external/removable device should not be in fstab
[18:46] <yomm> Jordan, like dev rules ?
[18:46] <yomm> *udev
[18:47] <genii> Jordan_U: It happened at least a couple times now. Booted to internal, plugged external in and forgot about it while updates ran. Not sure if any updates ran grub-install, possibly. But the system ended up unbootable because it kept looking for adrive that didn't exist.
[18:50] <Jordan_U> genii: Any upgrade to grub packages themselves will re-run grub-install. That still shouldn't result in a system that depends on an external drive obviously, but there are more hairy corner cases relating to automated grub-installs than with update-grub. If that does happen to you again please do file a bug report and subscribe me to it (JordanU on launchpad).
[18:55] <yomm> Imho even if there is 'non-matching' ntfs usb drive entry in fstab it shouldn't lead to a non-booting system, no ?
[18:58] <ioria> yomm, wrong fstab might lead to a rescue mode
[18:59] <yomm> Ionia: ok, I see
[19:12] <Richard_Cavell> Hello everyone
[19:12] <Richard_Cavell> May I ask people this: Is there really a benefit to being on an LTS release?  I'm on 16.04 and I worry that I don't have the latest versions of everything. Yet there are still bugs, and constant updates.
[19:13] <R0b0t1> Richard_Cavell: How capable are you as an administrator
[19:14] <R0b0t1> Richard_Cavell: I found I needed to switch to Gentoo because often the packages in Ubuntu's repositories were not sufficiently new
[19:14] <tomreyn> There is no software without bugs. The constant updates are either bug or security fixes, you want them if you care about your and other people's (and your and their data's) safety
[19:14] <lordcirth_work> Richard_Cavell, LTS is not so much about "less bugs", though there tends to be, as about less breaking changes.
[19:14] <R0b0t1> The only way to get newer packages in a lot of cases is to compile it yourself
[19:14] <R0b0t1> I wound up compiling so many things myself and maintaining a fakeroot in my $HOME that it became hard to administrate
[19:14] <R0b0t1> So now I just use Portage
[19:15] <lordcirth_work> I run latest LTS at work and latest release at home.
[19:15] <R0b0t1> There are build scripts that reference project GitHub pages, etc, if you really need code that new.
[19:15] <Bashing-om> !latest | Richard_Cavell
[19:15] <virmaha> hello. From nautilus, I can access a remote share as smb://my-apps.company.com with username mydomain/virmaha. How can I do the same using smbclient?
[19:16] <Jordan_U> Richard_Cavell: Do you mind doing a major release upgrade every approximately 6 months? If not, then maybe non LTS releases are a good fit for you.
[19:16] <dale1> Hi all, I have a very serious problem: on my ubuntu 16.04  my home folder seems to be reset to a blank state, that is all my files, configurations etc . disappeared. And df shows that use is 1%, pretty much empty. Any ideas?
[19:17] <Jordan_U> dale1: Did you have a separate /home/ partition that you deleted or removed from your /etc/fstab?
[19:18] <leftyfb> R0b0t1: there's ppa's and backports. I almost never have to compile anything.
[19:18] <Jordan_U> dale1: Since it sounds like you are using a separate /home/ partition, please pastebin your /etc/fstab .
[19:18] <dale1> yes, I had a separated /home partition, but I did not delete or remove it.
[19:18] <R0b0t1> Perhaps the situation is better leftyfb, but I do not like trusting random people with my system's administration
[19:18] <leftyfb> R0b0t1: Also, please don't answer support questions by suggesting another distribution. That helps nobody
[19:20] <dale1> jordan_u: ok, thanks. This was my computer at work, I'm now on my personal laptop. I will do it tomorrow morning. Any suggestion or idea of what may have happened is highly appreciated.
[19:21] <R0b0t1> leftyfb: It might help whom I answered if they wish to consider it as an option. I do not dislike Ubuntu due to some intrinsic "Ubuntuness" that it has, but because at some point I realized it was a poor fit for solving the problems I experience.
[19:22] <R0b0t1> If you are suggesting that solutions should be avoided merely because you disagree with them then I must admit that is an opinion I can not respect.
[19:22] <leftyfb> R0b0t1: I stand by my last comment
[19:23] <leftyfb> R0b0t1: Not sure why you hang out in a support channel about a distribution you dislike (for whatever reason).
[19:23] <adam-mcc3> I just joined. What's going on?
[19:23] <R0b0t1> Because it is the most expedient option for a VPS I recently purchased (it would take a long time to set up my distribution of choice with 1/2 a core, there is lots of compilation involved).
[19:23] <Loshki> Richard_Cavell: any change (including a bug fix) contains the potential to make something worse. The worst is a regression, where something that used to work (and thus which you may already be depending on) suddenly stops working, as a side effect of a code patch which you weren't interested in to begin with. Damned if you do (new fixes, new bugs), and damned if you don't (no fixes for your existing bugs)
[19:24] <R0b0t1> So I am trying to be pragmatic. Don't use Ubuntu because it is Ubuntu, use Ubuntu because it solves your problems.
[19:26] <Jordan_U> dale1: One possibility is that the wrong volume is being mounted to /home/ for some reason, though then you would expect the directories for your users to be missing rather than existant but empty.
[19:30] <dale1> Jordan_U: yes, exactly,that's also what I thought. It's there but empty. It seems like a totally clean directory as if it was created anew wiping out all old information
[19:33] <brunch> 17.10 uses wayland, doesn't it?
[19:37] <Bashing-om> brunch: Yes and no on wayland . it is the default if your hardware supports it .. else there is still the Xorg session .
[19:39] <brunch> Bashing-om, maybe it's not the best place to discuss it. But I feel like gnome3 is a pain in the ass to run on wayland since it forces vsync and I can't find anywhere how to disable it
[19:39] <brunch> I'm still stuck in gnome-flashback then :p
[19:42] <Bashing-om> brunch: I can not comment as I do not run 17.10 . However, we do - do support here . rephrase the question to get others attention ?
[19:42] <BluesKaj> brunch, install X11 and choose it at the login
[19:42] <BluesKaj> aka xorg
[19:43] <akik> 17.10 comes with xorg by default
[19:43] <brunch> oh right
[19:43] <brunch> hold on a second, I feel like I'm mistakenly avoiding gnome3 for the forced vsync
[19:43] <brunch> maybe it's not activated on x11
[19:47] <Bashing-om> brunch: If you are on a laptop with optimus graphic's, then yes there are adjustments to be made in the wayland interface yet by nvidia .
[19:48] <brunch> ooooooooh
[19:48] <brunch> that's great news
[19:48] <brunch> since I just got an AMD desktop :)
[19:48] <brunch> brb gonna relog
[19:49] <brunch> wow I see tearing again on gnome3
[19:49] <brunch> thank you a lot Bashing-om :)
[19:50] <brunch> vsync was the only thing stopping me from using gnome3
[19:50] <brunch> Any ideas if this will be possible to get disabled on wayland?
[19:55] <Bashing-om> brunch: Great ,, Will have to see what nvidia and our developers work out in the future . They do work close together .
[20:14] <awer> Im looking to create  a wordlist in crunch starting with anyletter, followed by anynumber, followed by a given word list.
[20:17] <leftyfb> crunch?
[20:17] <ioria> crack password
[20:19] <awer> leftyfb: yes crunch
[20:20] <leftyfb> awer: trying to crack some passwords?
[20:26] <awer> leftyfb: yes
[20:26] <leftyfb> why?
[20:26] <awer> for a CTF
[20:26] <leftyfb> good luck with that
[20:28] <leftyfb> awer: what's the prize?
[20:28] <awer> leftyfb: learning.. :-)
[20:29] <ioria> The Architect's Door
[20:32] <Younder> NO PROFANITY
[20:32] <leftyfb> Younder: can we help you with something?
[20:33] <Younder> No my temper is under control now
[20:34] <Younder> But there is is this one question. I have a Ubuntu 16.04 version and CUDA doesn't work
[20:35] <leftyfb> Younder: https://askubuntu.com/questions/799184/how-can-i-install-cuda-on-ubuntu-16-04     first result on google for "Ubuntu 16.04 cuda"
[20:35] <Younder> It's a bizarre error seeming to originate from a update a couple of months ago. I have had CUDA installed for many yesrs
[20:37] <Younder> Anyhow I am confues but it stared with a update in november after I had installd (in /usr/local/) gcc 7.0
[20:38] <Younder> Since then I get an error relating to header files I haven't modified.
[20:40] <ioria> Younder, how did you installed it ?
[20:41] <Younder> iora I installed it from /usr/local as a .run shell script
[20:41] <ioria> ppa:jonathonf/gcc-7.1
[20:42] <ioria> maybe bettr, never tried
[20:42] <Younder> ioria, worth a try
[20:42] <ioria> https://launchpad.net/~jonathonf/+archive/ubuntu/gcc-7.1
[20:44] <Younder> ioria, Thanks for the effort, But I feel the reinstall combing with 18.04 is the one which will clear out the problem
[20:44] <leftyfb> Younder: then why bother asking for help?
[20:44] <ioria> Younder, ok
[20:45] <Younder> Because I have a hackaton requiring a solution in February
[20:45] <leftyfb> 18.04 won't be released until April
[20:46] <Younder> Exactlt
[20:47] <leftyfb> So you asked for help with a problem. Someone offered help. You refused and said you'll wait till April to fix it with a fresh install. I asked why you bothered asking. You said because you require a solution before February
[20:48] <leftyfb> Still doesn't add up
[20:48] <leftyfb> you need it fixed by February but you say you will fix it in April
[20:50] <Younder> leftyfb, bviously I want the problem fixed now. Altso I realize THAT problem will be solved by April followed by (NO PROFANITY) of problems withe setting up the new system
[20:53] <TJ-> Younder: maybe some tools are being found on the PATH under /usr/local/ rather than the system-supplied version under /usr/, or visa-versa
[20:54] <Younder> TJ /usr/local should always override /usr so that is worth a check. thx
[20:56] <Younder> moral (Ubuntu) in system installs use absolute paths.
[20:57] <Younder> I remember renaming a Python 3 install in usr/local Python and everything stopped working
[20:57] <TJ-> Younder: this is where containers come in very handy
[20:58] <Younder> TC do you use singularity or hadop?
[21:00] <ppf> hi folks!
[21:00] <ppf> is there a clever way to get a docking station working?
[21:00] <TJ-> ppf: plug it in?
[21:00] <TJ-> Younder: No
[21:00] <ppf> like ... automate things such as screen setup, deactivating the laptop display
[21:00] <Baltazar> Hiya folks, is anyone an expert with dealing with linux-headers // the installation of VBoxLinuxAdditions.run?
[21:01] <ppf> Baltazar: just ask your question ;)
[21:01] <ppf> TJ-: :p
[21:02] <Younder> TJ: Then what is your container install?
[21:02] <ppf> how do i know when the laptop is being pulled from the dock, or being plugged into it?
[21:02] <TJ-> ppf: Oh, well on Linux the common way is custom scripts, but generally most desktop environments will auto-configure additional GPU outputs+monitors when they're discovered.
[21:03] <ppf> TJ-: not running a DE, just plain old awesome
[21:03] <TJ-> ppf: I'm not sure I've seen a tool that automatically *switches* displays rather than adding/removing the additional, but it is certainly possible. The tool "xrandr" makes it easy to script such things
[21:03] <Younder> TJ: I got the graphics to work obviously or I wouldn't be talking to you
[21:04] <ppf> TJ-: happy to do it myself, just need to know how to be notified of docking events
[21:04] <basalt> hi all, i try gimp, photoprint and the default software to print a 10x15 landscape image without borders, but this does not work at all, i use a canon MG5550. do i have to configure or calibrate something regarding this?
[21:04] <Baltazar> Man ... LOL Ok.. upon ./VBoxLinuxAdditions.run, i keep getting "The headers for the current kernel were not found. If the following module compilation fails, then this could be the reason.
[21:05] <Baltazar> when I try apt-get install linux-headers-'uname -r'
[21:05] <Baltazar> it says Unable to locate package linux-headers-4.13.0-kali-amd64
[21:05] <Baltazar> BUT
[21:05] <ppf> Baltazar: just install the guest-additions through the package manager?
[21:05] <Baltazar> they are installed
[21:05] <ppf> !kali
[21:05] <Younder> basalt, what you want is incscape and
[21:06] <Baltazar> Oh
[21:06] <ppf> Baltazar: then ... why are you trying to install them again?
[21:06] <Younder> basalt, krita
[21:07] <Baltazar> because they wont go through for the installation of Vbox guest
[21:07] <Baltazar> under dpkg --get-selection | grep linux-headers ... I see them all isntalled BUT
[21:07] <Baltazar> the version is 4.14
[21:07] <Baltazar> not 4.13
[21:08] <Baltazar> apt-get update
[21:08] <Baltazar> woops
[21:08] <Younder> basalt, krita is a awesome drawing program, professional quality, like Correl Draw
[21:09] <basalt> Younder: thx i will give it a try
[21:09] <ppf> Baltazar: i don't understand, you've installed the guest-additions via apt
[21:09] <ppf> why install them through installer then?
[21:09] <mjrosenb> so, I have a dell xps-9365, and it only supports s2idle, which drains the battery at about 5%/hour.  The computer is running 17.10.  Does anyone have any ideas about reducing power draw while in s2idle?
[21:11] <lordcirth_work> mjrosenb, are you using powertop and/or tlp?
[21:12] <ulkesh> So I posted this the other day and got no response, could anyone please help?  https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/7jak1s/ubuntu_1710_bluetooth_headset_issues/
[21:12] <basalt> Younder, krita has not "print" option ??
[21:13] <Younder> basalt, ??
[21:14] <ckovacs> meta-j 12
[21:14] <Younder> basalt, I honestly have no idea what you are talking about.
[21:14] <basalt> Younder and inkscape uses the same cups settings
[21:15] <TJ-> Younder: Ubuntu's default containers are LXD. Makes it trivial to create, for example, one for the in-development 18.04: "lxc launch ubuntu-daily:b/amd64 my_1804_container"
[21:15] <basalt> Younder i do not want to edit the image i would like to print the image to paper
[21:16] <basalt> Younder but the custom format 10x15 cm are not working, i tried any combination, any landscape ,..
[21:16] <Younder> basalt, Not to create them. Well anything wrong with pdf?
[21:17] <Younder> basalt, I also use Gimp
[21:17] <basalt> Younder u open gimp, import (open) the image to print, select "File" -> "Print..."
[21:18] <Younder> Slow as dickens but eventually it should work.
[21:18] <basalt> Younder select the printer, "page settings" tab, paper setting custom 100x150 mm
[21:20] <Younder> basalt, Are you in American format, or European, like A4
[21:20] <basalt> Younder image settings tab -> image size 100x150 mm , print preview looks correct, hit print, result is crap, cut, not centered
[21:20] <basalt> Younder European
[21:21] <Younder> basalt, I'm afraid I can't help you as it works for me.
[21:21] <basalt> Younder thx anyway
[21:22] <Younder> basalt, There is definitely a way to set it up so it works. Try the developer cite
[21:32] <mjrosenb> lordcirth_work: powertop, yes, but afiact, it doesn't report about what happens when the machine is off.
[21:53] <rscheideman> I have a question about Ubuntu 17.10 and netplan....why the change over to it and not the old way?
[21:56] <Thedarkb> I need drivers for my Realtek wifi adapter.
[21:56] <Thedarkb> and I have no wired connection.
[21:56] <Thedarkb> What should I do?
[21:57] <Thedarkb> I don't know who made the WiFi adapter, but realtek drivers work.
[21:58] <TJ-> rscheideman: netplan is network-service agnostic; it's config is converted to the actual format of the used network-servce
[21:59] <Thedarkb> I got it working under windows XP, but I can't get the dependencies without a connection under Lubuntu.
[22:03] <TJ-> Thedarkb: what does "lspci -nn" show for the device?
[22:04] <Thedarkb> Give me a minute, I'm booted into XP
[22:04] <Thedarkb> Well, POSReady 2009
[22:04] <Thedarkb> So basically XP.
[22:06] <Thedarkb> TJ-, It's a usb adapter.
[22:07] <TJ-> Thedarkb: ahhh, so "lsusb" then!
[22:07] <Thedarkb> Sorry, I meant to say Ralink adapter.
[22:08] <Thedarkb> Yeah, I ran it and it's seeing a Ralink RT5370
[22:09] <TJ-> Thedarkb: you could use a virtual machine on Windows to run the Linux install (VirtualBox can I believe), then pass the USB device through to the VM - you'd have 'wired' networking in the VM and be able to detect/install drivers
[22:09] <Thedarkb> It's already using the wrong drivers by the way.
[22:09] <TJ-> Thedarkb: regardless of the model name, the most important (and aways unique) info we need is the ID, of the form Vendor:Device
[22:09] <Thedarkb> It just picked some from a list or something.
[22:10] <TJ-> Thedarkb: the drivers bind based on the Vendor:Device ID, so they are unlikely to be 'wrong' but there could be bugs
[22:10] <Thedarkb> Can I manually set drivers?
[22:11] <Thedarkb> I had to go to the chip maker's website to set this thing up on POSReady
[22:13] <TJ-> Thedarkb: do you get anything from "ls -l /sys/class/net/*/device/driver"
[22:14] <TJ-> Thedarkb: if that shows a link the driver has bound to the device
[22:14] <Thedarkb> Yeah, there's a driver bound.
[22:18] <TJ-> Thedarkb: what's the interface name (the bit where the * was in the previous command) ?
[22:19] <Thedarkb> eno1
[22:19] <Thedarkb> and wlx000f00416cec
[22:20] <TJ-> Thedarkb: OK, so the wifi device is wlx000f00416cec. Try a network scan: "sudo iwlist wlx000f00416cec scan" --- if you see "Cell"s reported it's finding Access Points
[22:21] <koldbert> Hey tbere, I'm trying to install from USB but it's just booting to GRUB
[22:21] <Thedarkb> There's a Cell 01 connected to my network but it's not getting any packets through by the looks of it TJ-
[22:22] <TJ-> Thedarkb: if the command sees the AP then the device is working... from this point on the issue is with connecting and authenticating to the network
[22:23] <TJ-> Thedarkb: Have you configured a connection for this wifi AP using Network Manager? Does it try and fail to connect?
[22:23] <koldbert> How do I get to the install window?
[22:24] <TJ-> koldbert: Installer starts using GRUB in UEFI systems. First entry in the GRUB menu should be the one you need
[22:25] <koldbert> TJ-: I don't think it gives options
[22:26] <Thedarkb> TJ-, Yeah
[22:26] <koldbert> I put in boot and it says I need to load the kernel
[22:26] <Thedarkb> It's connected but no packets are getting through.
[22:27] <Thedarkb> I think I'll just get the right drivers with a VM
[22:28] <Thedarkb> I have a crossover adapter so I can use my thinkpad as a glorified router for a while maybe?
[22:29] <TJ-> koldbert: Oh, that suggests it couldn't find the GRUB menu file, which suggests the image on the USB is corrupt. Did you verify the ISO checksum?
[22:29] <koldbert> TJ-: I entered exit a few times and now it brought me to installation haha
[22:29] <koldbert> Idk why
[22:29] <koldbert> Thank you
[22:29] <TJ-> Thedarkb: what does "iwconfig" report regarding Invalid/Retries ?
[22:30] <Thedarkb> retry short limit 7
[22:30] <TJ-> koldbert: be wary; the ISO image may be corrupt. I'd recommend checking it first else the resulting install could be falkey
[22:31] <TJ-> Thedarkb: the last 2 lines are the important ones
[22:31] <Thedarkb> RTS thr:off
[22:31] <koldbert> TJ-: okay, thank you
[22:31] <Thedarkb> Fragment thr:off
[22:31] <Thedarkb> the first time I ran it, power management was off but now it's on.
[22:32] <Thedarkb> I ran it twice, the second time after a connection attempt.
[22:32] <Thedarkb> TJ-,
[22:34] <TJ-> Thedarkb: there might be clues as to problems in the logs. try "tail -f /var/log/kern.log" and if you don't see obvious wifi related error/warning messages arriving, then press Ctrl+C then try "tail -f /var/log/syslog" - that's where wpa_supplicant and NetworkManager log to
[22:35] <Thedarkb> Nah, just gtk-widgets and nautilus crapping out TJ-
[22:35] <Thedarkb> I think I'll call this off until tomorrow.
[22:35] <Thedarkb> It's getting late here.
[22:40] <koldbert> TJ-:  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/yI13Wkds/irccloudcapture8608781050132737736.jpg
[22:41] <koldbert> What should I put for use as and mount point?
[22:42] <TJ-> koldbert: I can't look at images right now, I'm in a terminal
[22:43] <koldbert> Oh
[22:43] <TJ-> koldbert: There is an installation guide on the ubuntu site though
[22:43] <TJ-> !install
[22:47] <koldbert> Thanks again
[23:37] <rosco_y> I'd like to cut and paste my cur directory in a terminal, I can use 'pwd | xclip' to capture my  working directory to the clipboard, but I don't know how to paste this into vim.  Can anyone tell me how to paste an 'xclip'-ing into vim?
[23:49] <vaillor> how
[23:49] <vaillor> hi
[23:49] <vaillor> how to test aptitude connection?
[23:49] <vaillor> is there a command?
[23:52] <ylwghst> vaillor: what do you mean by aptitude connection?
[23:53] <vaillor> echo "Acquire::http::Proxy \"http://${proxy}\";" | sudo tee /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/proxy -a
[23:53] <vaillor> this is wrong?
[23:54] <vaillor> /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/proxy       is the file where you can set up the proxy?
[23:55] <ylwghst> shoud be /et/apt/apt.conf.d/apt.conf
[23:56] <ylwghst> Acquire::http::Proxy "http://yourproxyaddress:proxyport";
[23:59] <vaillor> https://askubuntu.com/questions/257290/configure-proxy-for-apt
[23:59] <vaillor> here says /etc/apt/apt.conf
[23:59] <vaillor> how to know the answer for real?