[00:00] (Photo, 800x453) https://irc.ubports.com/nQtdqOth/file_2868.jpg See that sweet ~57GB free? [00:02] (Photo, 800x453) https://irc.ubports.com/hzFZinm0/file_2870.jpg My sweet babies! [00:02] Sorry for potato quality, the PS Vita camera isn't up to much, but it had to cover while these guys posed ;) [00:13] @lastdon82, It was ok really. There seems to be numerous different ways of doing it. I unlocked the Android/FlymeOS's bootloader, installed TWRP and wiped everything from it, downloaded the turbo recovery image and used ubuntu-device-flash to push it to the phone on the boot mode. [00:13] But as you started from a Canonical phone, you probably just need those last two steps. [00:24] How does the fingerprint scan works under ubports on pro5? [00:26] No complaints. Probably just gonna stick to my thumbs. Right one works like a charm. And will use normal security whenever I think my drunk and unconscious thumb may compromise me at parties :P [00:36] Cool. I was thinking on one plus one but it seems one plus three is coming along the way [00:37] I'll wait to see what's happen [00:39] Fair. I think the MP5 is the best supercharged phone for a budget. £165 or so for this, 64GB OP version and for some reason no import duty had to be paid. Bargain! [00:42] Chinese import I should clarify. [00:49] @Xenial, Fingerprint works fine [01:04] Hmmm after reboots the passwords for WiFi networks don't seem to persist, is this a known bug for turbo? [01:07] check if the network settings were stored in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections [01:13] @dohbee, how did mp3 become the standard? we need to fix that bug. Ogg and flac are awesome. MP3 has proprietary stuff in there... [01:13] MP3 is free now, Wayne. [01:13] The patents expired [01:15] @lastdon82, another one bites the dust.... i recall that Blackberry was actually a Canadian company. We only had maple syrup, trees and blackberry so it's sad to see one of our only three items disappear. [01:19] I have to rip most my stuff in MP3 so my Playstations can use them for custom soundtracks. But I agree ogg is better quality. If I know I just want it on a device to listen to on the go, I go for ogg rips. [01:20] Will check soon Rodney. [01:20] @wayneoutthere, I think they should have sticked with BB10 but is quite unfortunate. When i started using my Pro5 people use to ask me what OS i was using? When i told them it was Ubuntu they were amazed. I created couple apps for RBC, Sunlife and Go Train [01:21] ^would love to try those paps when I move to your wonderful country <3 [01:21] *apps [01:22] i have to move them to the open store [01:22] i really want to see UBports succed [01:24] i was not happy with canonical let us down. i invested in Meizu Pro5 and BQ tablet [01:27] @Seumas, so is this news? Or just your own battle against a device that should have worked? :) I'm always feeling around for news pieces... [01:29] @lastdon82, what awesome country do you live in?? this seems like an impossible story [01:29] Canada [01:29] @Seumas, paps... i am excited to tell you that paps means 'breasts' so... be careful [01:29] @lastdon82, GET OUT OF TOWN! [01:30] a canadian brutha??? [01:30] parlez vous frenchais?? [01:30] yes :) [01:30] I'm vancouver and my family is forcing me to eat dinner but... talk soon! [01:30] Hahaha. I bet there's only a handful of people who ever converted the "turbo plus", if you will, to UBP. So yes somewhat unique. [01:32] @wayneoutthere, peu [01:32] lol [01:32] @wayneoutthere, I am in Toronto [02:43] Can't get ADB access or phablet-shell into this phone :( [02:43] No permission dialog that I've seen unlike my other devices. [02:52] @Seumas, hope in your case it has nothing to do with broken nvram [03:00] @Seumas, Did you enable Dev mode? [03:00] Yup. [03:09] SSH won't work either, argh. [03:13] Any tips? [03:23] error: device unauthorized. Please check the confirmation dialog on your device. [03:31] Trying to go with "the easiest possibility" : https://wiki.ubports.com/wiki/How-to-work-around-missing-ADB-functionality [03:31] but not quite there yet. [03:32] Is rotation lock indicator working? [03:42] If not, that's why you don't get auth dialog. Try rebooting. [03:43] It is working. But I got the confirmation dialog when trying with my mini Ubuntu desktop. Not sure why my usual workhorse should have issues. [03:46] USB connection maybe. Sometimes can be weird, especially with the meizu phonee [03:48] do I remember it correctly? 16.04 needs =>3.10 kernel? [03:48] Nexus 5 is still in 3.4 [03:49] Problem is the computer where it DOES work is on Artful (17.10) with no installation candidate for phablet-tools [04:06] Ok I managed adb shell, but then I get this when I try to create a Libertine container: [04:06] phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ libertine-container-manager create —id vivid —name "vivid" —distro vivid —type chroot … I: Retrieving Release … E: Failed getting release file http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/vivid/Release … Failed to create container … phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ [04:07] Should I change the source file? I really want the desktop apps like how my other devices have them. [04:14] @Seumas, inwrote abr this [04:14] vivid reached end of live [04:14] so sources.list needs updating [04:15] search this group chat for "sources.liat" u will find my posts [04:15] Right, on rootfs correct? [04:15] or use my lazarus installer to fix it automatically no need to install lazarus [04:18] $ wget https://sourceforge.net/projects/lazarus-for-raspi-and-ut/files/lazfpc4ut.tar.gz [04:18] $ tar -xf lazfpc4ut.tar.gz [04:19] then: … $ sido ./lazfpc4ut [04:19] WITH SUDO [04:19] it will ask if to fix siources.list type y [04:19] for ecerything else tupe n [04:24] @Seumas, both [04:24] libertine as well anywhere u hv vivid [04:25] I changed all the links in the source.list file, tried to create the container again, but same error? [04:25] bcuz the container yries to use old sources [04:25] So how to fix that? [04:26] more ways than one [04:26] coult make fake dnd for example [04:26] but signing might not work [04:26] u need to alter sourcesbin the container somehow [04:27] if u had old rootf would be gaster [04:27] *fake dns [04:29] i would just edit libertine script [04:29] add pause before chrooting into rootfd [04:29] manually update and let tje script continue [04:30] that s what i would do [04:30] This is the fix I think: [04:30] https://forums.ubports.com/topic/792/libertine-installation-broken-on-vivid [04:31] @Seumas, libertine script doeload rootfs and chroot into it to continue inst. u can update sources in the script [04:37] "and add old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu to the end of the debootstrap command in the same file (after the {}s)" [04:37] I don't get that part. [04:39] @Seumas, it tells u how to edit installation script [04:40] Yes but not sure if I got it right. [04:40] there is a command calling debootstrab [04:41] So is it: [04:41] # Create the actual chroot … $nt=fakechroot {} {} old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu".format( … self.installed_release, self.root_path) [04:42] ? [04:45] Or something else? [04:56] i cant help u now [04:56] others should be able to [04:56] or hit me up later [04:56] pm [04:56] because now im on the move [05:09] if u cant male it work i will write a porogram for u that you start and then in another terminal use the usual normal libwrtinw scripts to install co tainwrer. my program will detect the new containwr and fix sources.apt on the fly and inform u. but i need to first get to aplace where i can sith down with laptop. im now in taxi in China fireawalled and can't help u u tul i reach my destination. could be up to an hour. [05:10] @Seumas, Got my Meizu working now [05:10] Thanks to Will [05:12] Pietro Martinez was added by: Pietro Martinez [05:12] Can you do me a big favour and create a Pastebin Nick? So we can see precisely what to change. [05:16] Hello to everyone, got a question... Is it possible to use UBports in Puerto Rico with my carrier, which is to be Sprint??? [05:21] @Pietro Martinez, Hello Pietro and welcome! I'm part of the UBports welcoming team. … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :) [05:21] @Pietro Martinez, As long as your device supports it that should be fine [05:22] @Pietro Martinez, you can use this to check if your device will work https://willmyphonework.net/ [05:22] so to be more clear, if it works with android, it will also work with ubuntu touch [05:34] I have a Samsung galaxy note 5, and yes... also tired of using a Android os. [05:36] @mariogrip, just to be clear if anyone is accidentally scanning this post, what Marius does *not* mean is that you can put UT on any Samsung (that runs android) - sadly. Because man. That would be nice. [05:37] I accidentally read it without context ;) [05:40] 😁 === ecloud is now known as ecloud_wfh [06:09] I try to use Ubuntu SDK. But it seems like since vivid repos have been disabled (or renamed to something archive like) I cannot update the SDK build targets. Is there a way to tell the SDK where to find the vivid archive repos? [06:19] @jonny, You can update the apt sources.list in the container. In the sdk ide settings you can click the "maintain" button for each click target to get a bash prompt in the container [06:27] O thanks [06:27] Which text editor can I use there? I am used to nano but it is not installed. [06:29] I think it has vi but you can always install nano if you prefer [06:29] No i can't. The repo is not found 😂 [06:30] vi does not seem to be installed either... [06:31] I'll look into that later. But thanks anyway for the hin! [06:40] @jonny, You can also edit the file on your host machine and copy it into the container with `cat file-on-host | lxc exec -- /bin/sh -c "/bin/cat > /target/on/lxc/guest"` [06:44] Try to execute aapt program, is part of the SDK. If I'm not misunderstanding what you want. === Elimin8r is now known as Elimin8er [09:12] @Flohack is there a overlay to get ubports 16.04 LTS on desktop ... [09:12] it would be nice to have a working vm that is as close as it can be to ubports phone ... [09:26] @delijati, No we only provide armhf bulds ;) [09:32] REMINDER: Since today all devel and rc updates will DEACTIVATE push service for Telegram et.al. Dont panic, you are on our push server now ;) [09:32] @wayneoutthere this is smth for you to broadcast haha [09:36] @Flohack, Hmm it would be pretty usefull for app development :/ [10:21] Hi Florian. I can't access UBports supergroup from UT telegram and also I can't subscribe from UT telegram. There is a workaround to do this? [10:25] @Rocco, You should download telegram 2.5.1 beta [10:35] Ho già quella versione [10:36] @Flohack, I suspect you considered this, but couldn't you make this transparent to the user by inserting logic that tries each server in turn? (Is it hard to detect an inactive server?) [10:56] @alan_griffiths, ah no, the problem is that telegram sends the notifacations directly to canonicals servers, that that switch wont happen to our server until ota3 [10:58] I see. The phone client can't tell if a server is "alive" on connect, only when it gets a notification. [10:58] @alan_griffiths, well, both servers are alive that's the problem [10:59] but we *could* add a check to a different endpoint that checks if the swich has happend [10:59] @Rocco, 🇮🇹😁 [11:00] @mariogrip, I.e. client says "which server should I use", hypothetical meta-server says "this one" [11:02] @alan_griffiths, yeah might be an idea, @Flohack what do you think? [11:03] It's possible to get the client working with both servers but as it's only breaking devel for a week or so it's not really worth the effort IMO. You can always revert the push client config back to point at push.ubuntu.com until OTA-3 [11:03] @DanChapman, yeah, true [11:04] I'll post the old config on the forum so that those still wanting notifications on devel can revert it for now. [11:04] @Flohack, I don't see any updates avaiable on the bq e4.5 rc10 [11:04] @Michele, are you on devel? [11:05] rc [11:05] @Michele, rc is comming later today [11:05] oh, thanks! I'll wait it patiently 👍🏻 [11:19] @alan_griffiths, Makes only sense if we run a cluster of push servers. Currently this would break as the client checks certificates and we use a different one [11:24] Agreed, it's too much effort for a one-off transition. (I don't think clustering would be a good use, forwarding to "backend" servers is better for that.) [11:26] hi [11:26] chroot: can't execute '/system/bin/sh': No such file or directory … im getting this error [11:32] how can I analize the memory on the disk in my phone? the option in the settings app shows me what takes the memory, but there's a label called "other files" that takes 1.3gb and I want to know what are this files and where can I find them... thanks [11:44] du :) [12:18] @Michele, or apt-get install baobab [12:18] @Flohack, I'm in devel but I will not update my phone since ota3 [12:19] I mean. Until ota3 [12:27] @malditobastardo, Anyone knows the date of the OTA3 ? [12:28] @onajjar, 21st of Dec [12:29] @Flohack, Thanks ! Can’t wait for it ! , any webpage about the release and what difference between know and the OTA3 [12:29] Now* [12:29] Hi @Flohack , the current changes on push server will also bring the system-settings notifications? I remember that on Canonical image we receive a notification when a new update system image was available [12:37] Xenial it won't bring it just by switching push server. the ubports system-image server will need updating to broadcast a new system image notification for each channel [12:42] Thanks for the clarification @DanChapman ! [12:44] españa [12:57] DanySpin97 was added by: DanySpin97 [12:58] @DanySpin97, Hello Danilo and welcome! I'm part of the UBports welcoming team. … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :) [12:58] @Stereofont, Hi there, and thank you ^^ [13:01] OTA-3 will come already without the Ubuntu Store icon ? [13:01] Is there some screenshots where i can see UBports in action? [13:02] You have videos on youtube :D [13:02] @DanySpin97, If you have any issues or questions, you can join the Welcome Room with the link [13:06] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaEA_W3Ej6I [13:09] @Flohack, PM'ing you now for clarity [13:38] @Eelis59, Unlikely. Only GSM phones have been made to work. CDMA would be a lot of work. [13:40] @Michele, Are you using a libertine container? Or it coul [13:43] @KrisJacewicz, but I have to make the image writable, right? and I prefer don't do things like this, as I understood it's not 100% safe... [14:26] @Michele, installing baobab on rootfs is indeed not a great plan. [14:27] Concerning my last few messages about the Libertine problem. Understand that I felt compelled to stay up until nearly 5 in the morning to try and fix it. So I might not have been making sense towards the end. Sorry about that. But I still want to find out how to fix that Python script to point to the correct sources. Or at a push try another solution such as the one Kris said he could offer. [14:28] Looking at this link again: [14:28] https://forums.ubports.com/topic/792/libertine-installation-broken-on-vivid [14:28] @Michele, Excuse me... I have 2.5.1 telegram version [14:28] @Rocco, no promblem👍🏻😂 [14:29] @dohbee, what do you mean? [14:30] i mean using apt on rootfs can cause the partition to fill up pretty quickly, and some packages don't deal well with overlay mounts and such, which ubuntu phone makes use of [14:30] I do have to say Tonoxis is a little bit vague there. I replaced one mention of the obselete source to the new one, but I don't get where to add it "to the end of the debootstrap command" as clear as it might be. It's probably pretty simple and a solution staring me in the face, but not seeing it just now. If anyone would like to take a look at the Python script and make recommendations, or if Tonoxis himself is a member of the supergroup, I'd dearly [14:30] appreciate it. [14:34] @dohbee, that's why I avoid doing this, but than @KrisJacewicz suggested it... [14:34] @Seumas, https://paste.ubuntu.com/26183436/ [14:34] (that's a diff from the source tree) [14:35] @Michele, yes, he is quick to go straight to the "make your system writable and install things" route [14:36] A news item about the push server and telegram notifications has just been dropped in the UBports News Channel. To learn more about this news be sure to subscribe to the News Channel here: https://t.me/ubports_news [14:37] No one can help me regarding UT telegram? How can I join to UBSports channels? [14:37] @Rocco, you have to install telegram 2.5.1 beta builds from github [14:38] I have it yet [14:38] What's the procedure? [14:39] search for ubports supergroup maybe? or go to ubports website and click on the link to join it [14:39]