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jbichaduflu: can you ask upstream if it's ok to push it to gtk3 too?02:38
duflujbicha, well I developed it against 3.x... didn't expect them to commit to 4.0 :)02:39
jbichathey're mostly thinking about gtk4 these days02:39
jbichado you have GNOME commit rights yet?02:40
duflujbicha, I don't think so02:41
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Nafalloo/07:59
* Nafallo stiffles a yawn07:59
duflu   \o08:07
seb128good morning desktopers08:36
kozao/08:40
Nafallosalut seb128 :-)08:40
seb128hey Nafallo koza08:40
NafalloI need moar coffee. brb08:40
kozaseb128, fyi: that AutoEnable SRU (bluez) got tested by the folks in Taipei and looks good. I'll create a SRU bug to have it in motion.08:41
seb128koza, ok, let me know when you have something ready for upload08:41
kozaseb128, sure will do08:42
kozaseb128, meanwhile i have invited you to the SRU Trello board which is our visual for commercially driven SRUs so that you are in the loop.08:44
seb128koza, I just got the email notification, thanks08:45
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers08:50
seb128lut oSoMoN, en forme ?08:52
willcookemorning all08:55
oSoMoNgood morning willcooke08:57
oSoMoNseb128, oui la forme, le réveil n’a pas sonné donc j’ai bien dormi :)08:57
oSoMoNet toi?08:57
oSoMoNproblème de fuite résolu?08:58
Laneyhey ho de ho09:02
willcookehi Laney09:02
seb128hey willcooke Laney, how is the island today?09:02
willcookehi seb128, bit chilly but clear skies09:02
oSoMoNhi Laney09:02
seb128oSoMoN, ça a arrété de pleuvoir donc pour le moment... ;)09:02
oSoMoNc’est toujours ça de pris09:03
seb128positive attitude :)09:03
Laneyhey willcooke seb128 oSoMoN09:04
Laneycan't complain09:05
Laneyput some more xmas lights up last night09:05
Laneyho ho ho09:05
seb128decorated the tree?09:06
Laneypartially09:07
Laneyprobably finish that tonight09:07
Laneywhat about you?09:07
seb128we didn't start decorating yet, probably going to do some of that this w.e09:08
seb128but we might not do a tree since we are going to France mid-next week for the holidays and only coming back after new year09:08
Laneyohh09:09
Laneyyeah fair enough09:09
Laneyyou get to benefit from everyone else's decoration and not have to do it09:11
Laneywin09:11
Laneyhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-4233806709:12
Laneygood old a&a09:12
seb128:)09:12
willcookeTrevinho, thanks for chasing on those U7 proposed fixes, I've shared via social media again09:21
NafalloLaney: nice article, I especially like that BBC got Prof. Al-Khalili involved as well :-)09:32
LaneyNafallo: yeah, just a friendly professor*09:36
Laney*don't mention his weekly show on BBC radio ;-)09:36
Nafallo:-)09:37
* Laney should report for Private Eye with that kind of insight09:37
NafalloI should shower and ponder what to do about ansible in 16.04 simultanously. bbiab :-)09:38
dufluBelated good mornings10:04
dufluAnd now good evening10:04
dufluI fell down a rabbit hole of which software/firmware/hardware component is making my touchpad unpleasant10:05
tjaaltonduflu: I'll sponsor your libinput update10:05
duflutjaalton, cool thanks. I read that will also make some people on Lenovo forums happy too. They don't even know it's coming10:06
tjaaltonhmm, maybe I'll update to 1.9.4 too10:06
dufluI didn't know that was out10:06
dufluOh it's not out. Just tagged 4h ago10:07
tjaaltonoh, hehe10:07
tjaaltonI'll add the patch to debian too10:09
tjaaltonthen we'll sync it10:09
dufluYeah it's in libinput 1.10 so probably fine for wider distribution already10:10
dufluInterestingly Peter implied he wanted to jump to 1.10 sooner than later because 1.9 has so many problems10:11
dufluNot sure what the main issues were10:11
dufluOh exciting. Seems the bionic kernel supports X1 Carbon gen 610:23
dufluwhich officially doesn't exist yet10:23
Nafalloduflu: do we know what's in it? link? :-)10:26
NafalloI'm after the next Dell XPS 13 that doesn't exist yet, so interested in comparions ;-)10:27
dufluNafallo, I know know that it has a touchpad. As does the X280 :)  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/4.13.0-17.2010:27
duflu*I only know10:27
Nafallohang on. laptops have touchpads!? ;-)10:27
dufluYes, you heard it here first10:28
Nafallo:-D10:28
dufluAnyway. Good night10:29
Nafallonighty nighty duflu. have fun in sleep mode :-)10:29
Nafallough. I'm so coloured by my Google Homes already :-P10:30
tjaaltonbionic kernel (4.14) doesn't support the gfx though, assuming it's coffee lake :)10:50
tjaalton4.15 will10:50
Nafallough10:56
Nafallothe rumours about the XPS is coffee lake at the moment... :-/10:56
tjaaltonbionic will get 4.1510:56
tjaaltoneventually10:56
TrevinhoMorning15:04
willcookehey Trevinho!15:23
Trevinhowillcooke: hey :-)15:24
seb128hey Trevinho, how are you? did you find a place where to sleep yesterday?15:31
Trevinhoseb128: I didn't need to, the owner fixed the things apparently15:32
seb128ah, nice15:32
seb128where are you today?15:32
Trevinhoseb128: but I'm in Miami now, and last night I arrived at 12 am and the girl of the airbnb was not responding at any medium15:33
Trevinhoseb128: I seriously thought I had to stay outside, then she called me15:33
seb128ah15:34
Trevinhoseb128: then almost half hour later she called me back... So all set.15:34
TrevinhoIt's cold here though... 17° :-$15:35
Trevinhoseb128: ah, yesterday the guy of the indicator extension asked for a new maintainer, so I took over it...15:36
seb128congrats :)15:36
TrevinhoI was also alredy doing some refactoring15:36
seb128does it mean you are going to start looking at those bugs? :p15:36
TrevinhoAnd there's some fixes to do in Qt, which for now I've workarounded15:36
TrevinhoIt works for most, but there are some things wrong for Dropbox for example....15:37
TrevinhoDo we have any contacts with them?15:37
seb128dropbox? or qt?15:37
Trevinhoseb128: Dropbox, Qt isn't a problem since I can fix myself15:39
seb128dunno but maybe popey can help you?15:39
Trevinhoseb128: but, Dropbox is using an own version15:39
seb128or willcooke15:39
popeyhm?15:39
seb128popey, do we have any contact at dropbox?15:40
popeyNot that I know of, sorry.15:40
popeyLet me ask around15:40
popeyAn engineering contact?15:40
seb128yes, somebody we could talk to about their appindicator code15:40
popeyHeh15:41
popeyI filed a bug against dropbox appindicator, their support people asked me for a lot of data, then passed the buck to you guys :)15:41
popeySo good luck :)15:41
seb128haha15:41
mgedminisn't dropbox going to support some kind of generic gnome API for desktop integration?15:41
seb128we should get those guys and Trevinho to talk then15:41
seb128mgedmin, I don't think there is a such API15:42
popeyOk. I can reply to my support request and ask for someone there to talk to Trevinho15:42
seb128popey, that would be nice, thanks15:42
popeynp15:42
TrevinhoThanks15:42
mgedminlibcloudproviderapi15:42
TrevinhoSo... The thing is when in unity they uses libappindicator15:43
popeyTrevinho: is there a specific issue you're seeing? Because my support request is about notifications when clicked opening multiple targets15:43
popey(e.g. file changes can result in multiple nautilus windows)15:43
* mgedmin is probably vaguely misremembering something from https://blogs.gnome.org/aday/2017/08/31/status-icons-and-gnome/15:43
popeyThis might be because they're doing it wrong in GNOME - as they did it in Unity?15:43
TrevinhoAnd that works fine... Otherwise they use Qt, and that has problems. As the menu isn't generated until you don't activate it, so double click, which is actually a thing I want to disable15:43
popeyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnaEqDJX5rc is the video I sent their support people which shows the issue.15:44
TrevinhoAs that activation would open the legacy menu15:44
TrevinhoFirst...15:44
Trevinhopopey: is your indicator acting well at startup?15:45
popeyI rarely click it, it disappears sometimes though15:45
seb128mgedmin, that blog said they would introduce a new api, which means the api doesn't exist yet and isn't going to be available on current debian stable/ubuntu lts/rhel7 etc so might not be what an isv want to use before some years15:46
popeyTrevinho: I'm told we do have a contact, I'll get it for you15:46
seb128mgedmin, also I don't think I saw any statement from dropbox they were going to use that non-existing-yet api15:46
Trevinhopopey: cool, thanks15:46
* Laney can start gnome from systemd now18:05
Laneyreasonably hack free18:05
Laneyshould push some wip branches tomorrow18:05
Laneylast day!18:05
Laneygoodnight homies18:06
jbicha👍18:26
willcookenight gang18:49
oSoMoNnighty night19:13
robert_ancellkenvandine, hi20:31
kenvandinehey robert20:31
kenvandinedid you see we have sections in the store now?20:32
robert_ancellkenvandine, yeah. At least we have the games section - that's the easy one to map!20:32
kenvandinei'm not sure how those sections are defined20:32
robert_ancellThe comments I've seen on them previously is they're basically tags - so anyone can define a section by tagging their snaps20:34
kenvandinegnome-mahjong is listed under games20:34
kenvandinebut i'm not sure how...20:34
kenvandinei didn't add any tags20:34
robert_ancellkenvandine, it doesn't show on the web interface as having any?20:34
kenvandinemaybe the store folks worked some magjic20:34
robert_ancellmight just be in the database20:35
kenvandinenope20:35
kenvandinekeywords are blank20:35
robert_ancellIt's not keywords, they're something else20:35
robert_ancellI'm not seeing anything on the web interface either20:37
robert_ancelloh, SPDX licenses are there now20:37
kenvandineok, can you try to figure out how the sections are defined?20:38
kenvandineand we need a plan to get those populated20:39
robert_ancellkenvandine, I'll work on getting the games section to show up, as that one will be a good first step20:39
kenvandineand of course map them20:40
robert_ancellkenvandine, the discussion is ongoing in the forum20:40
kenvandineok20:40
kenvandinehow's the guest session work coming?20:40
robert_ancellvery slowly. GDM and shell are a pita to work with..20:40
robert_ancellAnd I'm getting pulled between G-S work and guest session.20:41
kenvandinerobert_ancell, guest session is priority20:41
kenvandinebut of course we need both :)20:42
robert_ancellwell, that doesn't really work out well.20:42
kenvandinerobert_ancell, yeah20:42
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