[02:38] duflu: can you ask upstream if it's ok to push it to gtk3 too? [02:39] jbicha, well I developed it against 3.x... didn't expect them to commit to 4.0 :) [02:39] they're mostly thinking about gtk4 these days [02:40] do you have GNOME commit rights yet? [02:41] jbicha, I don't think so === cpaelzer_ is now known as cpaelzer === sary is now known as BenignM === ecloud is now known as ecloud_wfh [07:59] o/ [07:59] * Nafallo stiffles a yawn [08:07] \o [08:36] good morning desktopers [08:40] o/ [08:40] salut seb128 :-) [08:40] hey Nafallo koza [08:40] I need moar coffee. brb [08:41] seb128, fyi: that AutoEnable SRU (bluez) got tested by the folks in Taipei and looks good. I'll create a SRU bug to have it in motion. [08:41] koza, ok, let me know when you have something ready for upload [08:42] seb128, sure will do [08:44] seb128, meanwhile i have invited you to the SRU Trello board which is our visual for commercially driven SRUs so that you are in the loop. [08:45] koza, I just got the email notification, thanks [08:50] good morning desktoppers [08:52] lut oSoMoN, en forme ? [08:55] morning all [08:57] good morning willcooke [08:57] seb128, oui la forme, le réveil n’a pas sonné donc j’ai bien dormi :) [08:57] et toi? [08:58] problème de fuite résolu? [09:02] hey ho de ho [09:02] hi Laney [09:02] hey willcooke Laney, how is the island today? [09:02] hi seb128, bit chilly but clear skies [09:02] hi Laney [09:02] oSoMoN, ça a arrété de pleuvoir donc pour le moment... ;) [09:03] c’est toujours ça de pris [09:03] positive attitude :) [09:04] hey willcooke seb128 oSoMoN [09:05] can't complain [09:05] put some more xmas lights up last night [09:05] ho ho ho [09:06] decorated the tree? [09:07] partially [09:07] probably finish that tonight [09:07] what about you? [09:08] we didn't start decorating yet, probably going to do some of that this w.e [09:08] but we might not do a tree since we are going to France mid-next week for the holidays and only coming back after new year [09:09] ohh [09:09] yeah fair enough [09:11] you get to benefit from everyone else's decoration and not have to do it [09:11] win [09:12] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42338067 [09:12] good old a&a [09:12] :) [09:21] Trevinho, thanks for chasing on those U7 proposed fixes, I've shared via social media again [09:32] Laney: nice article, I especially like that BBC got Prof. Al-Khalili involved as well :-) [09:36] Nafallo: yeah, just a friendly professor* [09:36] *don't mention his weekly show on BBC radio ;-) [09:37] :-) [09:37] * Laney should report for Private Eye with that kind of insight [09:38] I should shower and ponder what to do about ansible in 16.04 simultanously. bbiab :-) [10:04] Belated good mornings [10:04] And now good evening [10:05] I fell down a rabbit hole of which software/firmware/hardware component is making my touchpad unpleasant [10:05] duflu: I'll sponsor your libinput update [10:06] tjaalton, cool thanks. I read that will also make some people on Lenovo forums happy too. They don't even know it's coming [10:06] hmm, maybe I'll update to 1.9.4 too [10:06] I didn't know that was out [10:07] Oh it's not out. Just tagged 4h ago [10:07] oh, hehe [10:09] I'll add the patch to debian too [10:09] then we'll sync it [10:10] Yeah it's in libinput 1.10 so probably fine for wider distribution already [10:11] Interestingly Peter implied he wanted to jump to 1.10 sooner than later because 1.9 has so many problems [10:11] Not sure what the main issues were [10:23] Oh exciting. Seems the bionic kernel supports X1 Carbon gen 6 [10:23] which officially doesn't exist yet [10:26] duflu: do we know what's in it? link? :-) [10:27] I'm after the next Dell XPS 13 that doesn't exist yet, so interested in comparions ;-) [10:27] Nafallo, I know know that it has a touchpad. As does the X280 :) https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/4.13.0-17.20 [10:27] *I only know [10:27] hang on. laptops have touchpads!? ;-) [10:28] Yes, you heard it here first [10:28] :-D [10:29] Anyway. Good night [10:29] nighty nighty duflu. have fun in sleep mode :-) [10:30] ugh. I'm so coloured by my Google Homes already :-P [10:50] bionic kernel (4.14) doesn't support the gfx though, assuming it's coffee lake :) [10:50] 4.15 will [10:56] ugh [10:56] the rumours about the XPS is coffee lake at the moment... :-/ [10:56] bionic will get 4.15 [10:56] eventually [15:04] Morning [15:23] hey Trevinho! [15:24] willcooke: hey :-) [15:31] hey Trevinho, how are you? did you find a place where to sleep yesterday? [15:32] seb128: I didn't need to, the owner fixed the things apparently [15:32] ah, nice [15:32] where are you today? [15:33] seb128: but I'm in Miami now, and last night I arrived at 12 am and the girl of the airbnb was not responding at any medium [15:33] seb128: I seriously thought I had to stay outside, then she called me [15:34] ah [15:34] seb128: then almost half hour later she called me back... So all set. [15:35] It's cold here though... 17° :-$ [15:36] seb128: ah, yesterday the guy of the indicator extension asked for a new maintainer, so I took over it... [15:36] congrats :) [15:36] I was also alredy doing some refactoring [15:36] does it mean you are going to start looking at those bugs? :p [15:36] And there's some fixes to do in Qt, which for now I've workarounded [15:37] It works for most, but there are some things wrong for Dropbox for example.... [15:37] Do we have any contacts with them? [15:37] dropbox? or qt? [15:39] seb128: Dropbox, Qt isn't a problem since I can fix myself [15:39] dunno but maybe popey can help you? [15:39] seb128: but, Dropbox is using an own version [15:39] or willcooke [15:39] hm? [15:40] popey, do we have any contact at dropbox? [15:40] Not that I know of, sorry. [15:40] Let me ask around [15:40] An engineering contact? [15:40] yes, somebody we could talk to about their appindicator code [15:41] Heh [15:41] I filed a bug against dropbox appindicator, their support people asked me for a lot of data, then passed the buck to you guys :) [15:41] So good luck :) [15:41] haha [15:41] isn't dropbox going to support some kind of generic gnome API for desktop integration? [15:41] we should get those guys and Trevinho to talk then [15:42] mgedmin, I don't think there is a such API [15:42] Ok. I can reply to my support request and ask for someone there to talk to Trevinho [15:42] popey, that would be nice, thanks [15:42] np [15:42] Thanks [15:42] libcloudproviderapi [15:43] So... The thing is when in unity they uses libappindicator [15:43] Trevinho: is there a specific issue you're seeing? Because my support request is about notifications when clicked opening multiple targets [15:43] (e.g. file changes can result in multiple nautilus windows) [15:43] * mgedmin is probably vaguely misremembering something from https://blogs.gnome.org/aday/2017/08/31/status-icons-and-gnome/ [15:43] This might be because they're doing it wrong in GNOME - as they did it in Unity? [15:43] And that works fine... Otherwise they use Qt, and that has problems. As the menu isn't generated until you don't activate it, so double click, which is actually a thing I want to disable [15:44] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnaEqDJX5rc is the video I sent their support people which shows the issue. [15:44] As that activation would open the legacy menu [15:44] First... [15:45] popey: is your indicator acting well at startup? [15:45] I rarely click it, it disappears sometimes though [15:46] mgedmin, that blog said they would introduce a new api, which means the api doesn't exist yet and isn't going to be available on current debian stable/ubuntu lts/rhel7 etc so might not be what an isv want to use before some years [15:46] Trevinho: I'm told we do have a contact, I'll get it for you [15:46] mgedmin, also I don't think I saw any statement from dropbox they were going to use that non-existing-yet api [15:46] popey: cool, thanks [18:05] * Laney can start gnome from systemd now [18:05] reasonably hack free [18:05] should push some wip branches tomorrow [18:05] last day! [18:06] goodnight homies [18:26] 👍 [18:49] night gang [19:13] nighty night [20:31] kenvandine, hi [20:31] hey robert [20:32] did you see we have sections in the store now? [20:32] kenvandine, yeah. At least we have the games section - that's the easy one to map! [20:32] i'm not sure how those sections are defined [20:34] The comments I've seen on them previously is they're basically tags - so anyone can define a section by tagging their snaps [20:34] gnome-mahjong is listed under games [20:34] but i'm not sure how... [20:34] i didn't add any tags [20:34] kenvandine, it doesn't show on the web interface as having any? [20:34] maybe the store folks worked some magjic [20:35] might just be in the database [20:35] nope [20:35] keywords are blank [20:35] It's not keywords, they're something else [20:37] I'm not seeing anything on the web interface either [20:37] oh, SPDX licenses are there now [20:38] ok, can you try to figure out how the sections are defined? [20:39] and we need a plan to get those populated [20:39] kenvandine, I'll work on getting the games section to show up, as that one will be a good first step [20:40] and of course map them [20:40] kenvandine, the discussion is ongoing in the forum [20:40] ok [20:40] how's the guest session work coming? [20:40] very slowly. GDM and shell are a pita to work with.. [20:41] And I'm getting pulled between G-S work and guest session. [20:41] robert_ancell, guest session is priority [20:42] but of course we need both :) [20:42] well, that doesn't really work out well. [20:42] robert_ancell, yeah === thumper is now known as thumper-away