[02:38] <jbicha> duflu: can you ask upstream if it's ok to push it to gtk3 too?
[02:39] <duflu> jbicha, well I developed it against 3.x... didn't expect them to commit to 4.0 :)
[02:39] <jbicha> they're mostly thinking about gtk4 these days
[02:40] <jbicha> do you have GNOME commit rights yet?
[02:41] <duflu> jbicha, I don't think so
[07:59] <Nafallo> o/
[07:59]  * Nafallo stiffles a yawn
[08:07] <duflu>    \o
[08:36] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[08:40] <koza> o/
[08:40] <Nafallo> salut seb128 :-)
[08:40] <seb128> hey Nafallo koza
[08:40] <Nafallo> I need moar coffee. brb
[08:41] <koza> seb128, fyi: that AutoEnable SRU (bluez) got tested by the folks in Taipei and looks good. I'll create a SRU bug to have it in motion.
[08:41] <seb128> koza, ok, let me know when you have something ready for upload
[08:42] <koza> seb128, sure will do
[08:44] <koza> seb128, meanwhile i have invited you to the SRU Trello board which is our visual for commercially driven SRUs so that you are in the loop.
[08:45] <seb128> koza, I just got the email notification, thanks
[08:50] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[08:52] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, en forme ?
[08:55] <willcooke> morning all
[08:57] <oSoMoN> good morning willcooke
[08:57] <oSoMoN> seb128, oui la forme, le réveil n’a pas sonné donc j’ai bien dormi :)
[08:57] <oSoMoN> et toi?
[08:58] <oSoMoN> problème de fuite résolu?
[09:02] <Laney> hey ho de ho
[09:02] <willcooke> hi Laney
[09:02] <seb128> hey willcooke Laney, how is the island today?
[09:02] <willcooke> hi seb128, bit chilly but clear skies
[09:02] <oSoMoN> hi Laney
[09:02] <seb128> oSoMoN, ça a arrété de pleuvoir donc pour le moment... ;)
[09:03] <oSoMoN> c’est toujours ça de pris
[09:03] <seb128> positive attitude :)
[09:04] <Laney> hey willcooke seb128 oSoMoN
[09:05] <Laney> can't complain
[09:05] <Laney> put some more xmas lights up last night
[09:05] <Laney> ho ho ho
[09:06] <seb128> decorated the tree?
[09:07] <Laney> partially
[09:07] <Laney> probably finish that tonight
[09:07] <Laney> what about you?
[09:08] <seb128> we didn't start decorating yet, probably going to do some of that this w.e
[09:08] <seb128> but we might not do a tree since we are going to France mid-next week for the holidays and only coming back after new year
[09:09] <Laney> ohh
[09:09] <Laney> yeah fair enough
[09:11] <Laney> you get to benefit from everyone else's decoration and not have to do it
[09:11] <Laney> win
[09:12] <Laney> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42338067
[09:12] <Laney> good old a&a
[09:12] <seb128> :)
[09:21] <willcooke> Trevinho, thanks for chasing on those U7 proposed fixes, I've shared via social media again
[09:32] <Nafallo> Laney: nice article, I especially like that BBC got Prof. Al-Khalili involved as well :-)
[09:36] <Laney> Nafallo: yeah, just a friendly professor*
[09:36] <Laney> *don't mention his weekly show on BBC radio ;-)
[09:37] <Nafallo> :-)
[09:37]  * Laney should report for Private Eye with that kind of insight
[09:38] <Nafallo> I should shower and ponder what to do about ansible in 16.04 simultanously. bbiab :-)
[10:04] <duflu> Belated good mornings
[10:04] <duflu> And now good evening
[10:05] <duflu> I fell down a rabbit hole of which software/firmware/hardware component is making my touchpad unpleasant
[10:05] <tjaalton> duflu: I'll sponsor your libinput update
[10:06] <duflu> tjaalton, cool thanks. I read that will also make some people on Lenovo forums happy too. They don't even know it's coming
[10:06] <tjaalton> hmm, maybe I'll update to 1.9.4 too
[10:06] <duflu> I didn't know that was out
[10:07] <duflu> Oh it's not out. Just tagged 4h ago
[10:07] <tjaalton> oh, hehe
[10:09] <tjaalton> I'll add the patch to debian too
[10:09] <tjaalton> then we'll sync it
[10:10] <duflu> Yeah it's in libinput 1.10 so probably fine for wider distribution already
[10:11] <duflu> Interestingly Peter implied he wanted to jump to 1.10 sooner than later because 1.9 has so many problems
[10:11] <duflu> Not sure what the main issues were
[10:23] <duflu> Oh exciting. Seems the bionic kernel supports X1 Carbon gen 6
[10:23] <duflu> which officially doesn't exist yet
[10:26] <Nafallo> duflu: do we know what's in it? link? :-)
[10:27] <Nafallo> I'm after the next Dell XPS 13 that doesn't exist yet, so interested in comparions ;-)
[10:27] <duflu> Nafallo, I know know that it has a touchpad. As does the X280 :)  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/4.13.0-17.20
[10:27] <duflu> *I only know
[10:27] <Nafallo> hang on. laptops have touchpads!? ;-)
[10:28] <duflu> Yes, you heard it here first
[10:28] <Nafallo> :-D
[10:29] <duflu> Anyway. Good night
[10:29] <Nafallo> nighty nighty duflu. have fun in sleep mode :-)
[10:30] <Nafallo> ugh. I'm so coloured by my Google Homes already :-P
[10:50] <tjaalton> bionic kernel (4.14) doesn't support the gfx though, assuming it's coffee lake :)
[10:50] <tjaalton> 4.15 will
[10:56] <Nafallo> ugh
[10:56] <Nafallo> the rumours about the XPS is coffee lake at the moment... :-/
[10:56] <tjaalton> bionic will get 4.15
[10:56] <tjaalton> eventually
[15:04] <Trevinho> Morning
[15:23] <willcooke> hey Trevinho!
[15:24] <Trevinho> willcooke: hey :-)
[15:31] <seb128> hey Trevinho, how are you? did you find a place where to sleep yesterday?
[15:32] <Trevinho> seb128: I didn't need to, the owner fixed the things apparently
[15:32] <seb128> ah, nice
[15:32] <seb128> where are you today?
[15:33] <Trevinho> seb128: but I'm in Miami now, and last night I arrived at 12 am and the girl of the airbnb was not responding at any medium
[15:33] <Trevinho> seb128: I seriously thought I had to stay outside, then she called me
[15:34] <seb128> ah
[15:34] <Trevinho> seb128: then almost half hour later she called me back... So all set.
[15:35] <Trevinho> It's cold here though... 17° :-$
[15:36] <Trevinho> seb128: ah, yesterday the guy of the indicator extension asked for a new maintainer, so I took over it...
[15:36] <seb128> congrats :)
[15:36] <Trevinho> I was also alredy doing some refactoring
[15:36] <seb128> does it mean you are going to start looking at those bugs? :p
[15:36] <Trevinho> And there's some fixes to do in Qt, which for now I've workarounded
[15:37] <Trevinho> It works for most, but there are some things wrong for Dropbox for example....
[15:37] <Trevinho> Do we have any contacts with them?
[15:37] <seb128> dropbox? or qt?
[15:39] <Trevinho> seb128: Dropbox, Qt isn't a problem since I can fix myself
[15:39] <seb128> dunno but maybe popey can help you?
[15:39] <Trevinho> seb128: but, Dropbox is using an own version
[15:39] <seb128> or willcooke
[15:39] <popey> hm?
[15:40] <seb128> popey, do we have any contact at dropbox?
[15:40] <popey> Not that I know of, sorry.
[15:40] <popey> Let me ask around
[15:40] <popey> An engineering contact?
[15:40] <seb128> yes, somebody we could talk to about their appindicator code
[15:41] <popey> Heh
[15:41] <popey> I filed a bug against dropbox appindicator, their support people asked me for a lot of data, then passed the buck to you guys :)
[15:41] <popey> So good luck :)
[15:41] <seb128> haha
[15:41] <mgedmin> isn't dropbox going to support some kind of generic gnome API for desktop integration?
[15:41] <seb128> we should get those guys and Trevinho to talk then
[15:42] <seb128> mgedmin, I don't think there is a such API
[15:42] <popey> Ok. I can reply to my support request and ask for someone there to talk to Trevinho
[15:42] <seb128> popey, that would be nice, thanks
[15:42] <popey> np
[15:42] <Trevinho> Thanks
[15:42] <mgedmin> libcloudproviderapi
[15:43] <Trevinho> So... The thing is when in unity they uses libappindicator
[15:43] <popey> Trevinho: is there a specific issue you're seeing? Because my support request is about notifications when clicked opening multiple targets
[15:43] <popey> (e.g. file changes can result in multiple nautilus windows)
[15:43]  * mgedmin is probably vaguely misremembering something from https://blogs.gnome.org/aday/2017/08/31/status-icons-and-gnome/
[15:43] <popey> This might be because they're doing it wrong in GNOME - as they did it in Unity?
[15:43] <Trevinho> And that works fine... Otherwise they use Qt, and that has problems. As the menu isn't generated until you don't activate it, so double click, which is actually a thing I want to disable
[15:44] <popey> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnaEqDJX5rc is the video I sent their support people which shows the issue.
[15:44] <Trevinho> As that activation would open the legacy menu
[15:44] <Trevinho> First...
[15:45] <Trevinho> popey: is your indicator acting well at startup?
[15:45] <popey> I rarely click it, it disappears sometimes though
[15:46] <seb128> mgedmin, that blog said they would introduce a new api, which means the api doesn't exist yet and isn't going to be available on current debian stable/ubuntu lts/rhel7 etc so might not be what an isv want to use before some years
[15:46] <popey> Trevinho: I'm told we do have a contact, I'll get it for you
[15:46] <seb128> mgedmin, also I don't think I saw any statement from dropbox they were going to use that non-existing-yet api
[15:46] <Trevinho> popey: cool, thanks
[18:05]  * Laney can start gnome from systemd now
[18:05] <Laney> reasonably hack free
[18:05] <Laney> should push some wip branches tomorrow
[18:05] <Laney> last day!
[18:06] <Laney> goodnight homies
[18:26] <jbicha> 👍
[18:49] <willcooke> night gang
[19:13] <oSoMoN> nighty night
[20:31] <robert_ancell> kenvandine, hi
[20:31] <kenvandine> hey robert
[20:32] <kenvandine> did you see we have sections in the store now?
[20:32] <robert_ancell> kenvandine, yeah. At least we have the games section - that's the easy one to map!
[20:32] <kenvandine> i'm not sure how those sections are defined
[20:34] <robert_ancell> The comments I've seen on them previously is they're basically tags - so anyone can define a section by tagging their snaps
[20:34] <kenvandine> gnome-mahjong is listed under games
[20:34] <kenvandine> but i'm not sure how...
[20:34] <kenvandine> i didn't add any tags
[20:34] <robert_ancell> kenvandine, it doesn't show on the web interface as having any?
[20:34] <kenvandine> maybe the store folks worked some magjic
[20:35] <robert_ancell> might just be in the database
[20:35] <kenvandine> nope
[20:35] <kenvandine> keywords are blank
[20:35] <robert_ancell> It's not keywords, they're something else
[20:37] <robert_ancell> I'm not seeing anything on the web interface either
[20:37] <robert_ancell> oh, SPDX licenses are there now
[20:38] <kenvandine> ok, can you try to figure out how the sections are defined?
[20:39] <kenvandine> and we need a plan to get those populated
[20:39] <robert_ancell> kenvandine, I'll work on getting the games section to show up, as that one will be a good first step
[20:40] <kenvandine> and of course map them
[20:40] <robert_ancell> kenvandine, the discussion is ongoing in the forum
[20:40] <kenvandine> ok
[20:40] <kenvandine> how's the guest session work coming?
[20:40] <robert_ancell> very slowly. GDM and shell are a pita to work with..
[20:41] <robert_ancell> And I'm getting pulled between G-S work and guest session.
[20:41] <kenvandine> robert_ancell, guest session is priority
[20:42] <kenvandine> but of course we need both :)
[20:42] <robert_ancell> well, that doesn't really work out well.
[20:42] <kenvandine> robert_ancell, yeah