[01:08] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: here's that small migration fix https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/8227
[01:10] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: looking now
[01:10] <wallyworld> \o/
[01:15] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: approved
[01:24] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: tyvm
[01:44]  * thumper is traditionally terrible at changing nicks back
[01:48] <thumper> https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/8228 anyone
[01:58] <wallyworld> thumper: looking
[01:58] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: one more really small one https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/8229
[01:59] <wallyworld> thumper: what happens when we exclude a principal app with no units?
[02:23] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: sorry, went for a run and forgot to mention - looking now
[02:23] <wallyworld> no worries
[02:26] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: lgtm'd
[02:26] <wallyworld> yay
[02:26] <wallyworld> ty
[02:30] <thumper> wallyworld: it won't get the constraints for it, and if there are some defined in the bundle it will try and set them again
[02:30] <thumper> nothing bad, just extra work
[02:30] <thumper> but at least it works
[02:32] <wallyworld> thumper: but if there are none elsewhere in the bundle, we could actually miss out on using constraints right?
[02:32] <thumper> no
[02:32] <thumper> wallyworld: if the app isn't in the bundle, it doesn't matter
[02:33] <thumper> if the app is in the bundle but has no constraints, there is nothing to do
[02:33] <thumper> if the app is in the bundle but has constraints, it will try to set them
[02:33] <thumper> worst case, we set the constraints to what they are already
[02:33] <wallyworld> ok
[02:33] <wallyworld> i'm not overly familiar with the logic
[02:34] <wallyworld> i'll take your word it wil be ok :-)
[02:34] <thumper> it'll be ok
[02:37] <wallyworld> thumper: lgtm
[02:49] <thumper> wallyworld: another very small onehttps://github.com/juju/juju/pull/8231/files
[02:49] <wallyworld> ok
[02:49] <thumper> wallyworld: another very small one https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/8231/files
[02:49] <thumper> we can talk through the testing, or lack of it, if you like
[02:50] <thumper> the only way rog reproduced it was to hack the API calls
[02:52] <wallyworld> thumper: i think maybe at least a warning? tp pick up any typos or whatever
[02:53] <wallyworld> or at least tellpeople something is being ignored or might be amiss
[02:53] <wallyworld> but keep working
[03:23] <thumper> wallyworld: any warnings would be on the server, not the client
[03:23] <thumper> so they wouldn't see it anyway
[03:23] <wallyworld> ok
[03:40] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: sorry, another small one https://github.com/juju/description/pull/33
[03:41] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: I'll accept it as penance for booting you
[03:42] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: Approved
[03:51] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: yay, ty
[03:58] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: last one for the year! I promise :-) https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/8232
[04:07] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: yay, nice one! Done!
[04:08] <wallyworld> tyvm
[04:13] <wgrant> Huh, what is an application password?
[05:05] <wallyworld> wgrant: same as a unit and machine password
[05:06] <wgrant> Oh is this for CAAS?
[05:06] <wallyworld> used to authenticate api connections for that entity
[05:06] <wallyworld> yeah
[05:06] <wgrant> Since in IAAS an app never auths
[05:06] <wgrant> Right makes sense
[05:06] <wgrant> Thanks
[05:06] <wallyworld> np
[05:06] <wallyworld> wgrant: if you are interested i can share a "what can it do as of now" doc with you
[05:07] <wgrant> wallyworld: Ooh, enough works now that such a doc exists?
[05:07] <wallyworld> wgrant: you can deloy and scale and expose a charm :-)
[05:07] <wallyworld> and configure it
[05:08] <wallyworld> with k8s specific settings for service/ingress as well as charm workload ones
[05:11] <wallyworld> wgrant: shared with you. next major bit of work is to support relations. that will happen next year as today is my last for the year
[05:12] <wgrant> wallyworld: Nice, thanks. Good progress :)
[05:12] <wgrant> Have a good break!
[05:12] <wallyworld> will try, you too
[14:21] <balloons> wpk, you about?
[14:33] <wpk> balloons: yep
[14:33] <wpk> balloons: sup?
[14:46] <balloons> wpk, hey, did you get a chance to look at that pr i sent along?
[14:46] <balloons> wpk, specifically, we aren't sure about how subnets should be created
[16:45] <balloons> hml, are you about?
[16:48] <hml> balloons: here