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IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> Friends, I have family issue my mum is very poorly, I may not make Andrea Del Sarto membership meeting. Please know that I vote Yes09:46
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> @Sick_Rimmit Sorry to hear that. Not a problem09:51
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> You folks in Dev have been very busy, it's very exciting to see the momentum building10:01
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> I got an introduction to the MD of Zymplify.com I think They're Going to sponsor us with a system. Hopefully we can use it for managing our social media, and marketing.10:03
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> Been moving things forward in the Phab Wiki, sadly I have not had the time in front of my machine be to upload the Kafe video yet, hopefully get back to it next week.10:05
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> @Sick_Rimmit, Right. Clive asked me the other day why that was not up.10:06
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> I had been planning to do little bit of Editing10:07
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> LOL. Would be a good idea!10:07
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> I have kdenlive running a treat on 17.1010:08
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> I hope to get it done next week10:08
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> @Sick_Rimmit, Great. I deliberately cherry picked uploading the latest (at the time) kdenlive 17.08 for artful, instead of 17.04 like the rest of the apps, as there were important changes and fixes.10:09
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> Well I made a 2 hour DVD with it for my friends Xmas present last week, and it worked so great10:10
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> :)10:11
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> I have old Samsung R710 core duo, 64bit 3gd Ram, 24gd swap on ssd10:11
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> World good10:12
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> Right got to go to hospital, CA Ch you later10:12
wxldid kubuntu put up any GCI tasks or is KDE doing it this year?19:06
valorie@Sick_Rimmit {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}19:59
valoriewxl: no, we're not participating (KDE)19:59
valorieI think ubuntu is, but have no clue how we'd participate -- tsimonq2 might know?20:00
wxlno kubuntu tasks? :(20:00
valorieKDE is not doing GCi20:00
valorieI wasn't willing to lead, and nobody else stepped up20:01
valorieso I said we're not doing it, and many would-me mentors thanked me20:01
valorieeveryone is just tired this year I guess20:01
valorieand lots of other stuff going on20:01
wxlok well if anyone wants to propose tasks, i'd be happy to get them up there and mentor for them20:28
valorieso if you are interested in doing that, I would look for what Ubuntu is doing20:33
valorieas I recall, they were the org with the most tasks and students last year20:33
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> Hello any KC here that can help with membership application in #kubuntu22:21
wxlin #kubuntu? O_O22:21
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> Yes Andrea Del Sarto22:22
wxlthose normally happen in a support channel?22:23
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> Sorry that is what I kesnt22:23
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> Meant22:23
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> I'm on my phone22:24
wxlthat IS or isn't what you meant? hahahaha22:24
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> Fat fingers22:24
wxlapparently so22:24
* wxl hands @Sick_Rimmit a bluetooth keyboard22:24
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> He he22:24
wxli did see an email from valorie in reply22:24
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> Thanks22:24
wxlahoneybun: was about a bit ago22:24
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> I will check email22:25
ahoneybunwxl: what?22:25
wxlahoneybun: @Sick_Rimmit is looking for councillors to discuss Andrea's app22:26
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> what's up @Sick_Rimmit22:27
valoriewhere is Andrea?22:27
wxlyeah that's the question i had XD22:27
wxlmaybe on Telegram?22:27
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> Kubuntu support we have member application22:28
valorieI'm worried about the passive nature of the membership ask here22:28
valoriewe like people to set up the meeting on their own initiative22:28
valoriemeeting should be in -devel22:28
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> He has set this up by himself with encourage meant from me22:29
valorieok22:29
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> Can we at least go discuss with him22:30
valoriebut some interaction is missing22:30
valoriego where?22:30
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> He is waiting22:30
valoriewhere?22:30
wxl"where" are you "going" to?22:30
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> Kubuntu support on IRC22:30
valorieno, not in support22:30
valoriethat is not the channel22:30
wxlthat seems like a really weird place to have a membership meeting as aforementioned22:30
valoriein kubuntu-devel22:31
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> Ok devel22:31
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> I'm hanging by à thread here guys, 300 mike's from home on a phonev trying to coordinate in between hospital visits22:32
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> Help me out will you22:33
valorie{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} for you and your mum, @sick_rimmit22:33
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> ❤️ thanks v Valorie22:45
valorie<322:47
wxlan aside: kde contributions don't count as contributions for kubuntu? i mean if someone is using kubuntu and they see something to fix..23:28
valoriewell, it depends23:30
valorieso if you file the bug in LP *and* bko, and test the fixes, etc.23:30
valorieit counts for both23:30
wxlsure23:31
valoriesay if you write something for KDE, and then spread it via Kubuntu as well23:31
valorieit counts here23:31
wxlyeah well did any of his artwork get here somehow? did he tell anyone about it? maybe there's a kubuntu-artwork mailing list i don't know about?23:31
valoriebut just upstream countributions on their own, not so much23:31
valorieeverything should be in kubuntu-devel23:31
valorieso art contributions ARE valuable, but if nobody tells us about them, we only find out by chance23:32
wxlright23:32
valorienow on our website, we noticed!23:32
wxlwhich might be the disconnect with the kubuntu community23:32
valorieyeah23:32
valoriewe need lots of involvement from lots of people23:33
valorieso nobody is doing a big job all by themselves23:33
valorielike acheronuk is doing right now23:33
valoriesorry @Sick_Rimmit23:47
valorieI think he was just not quite ready23:47
valoriegood meeting anyway23:47
valoriethanks for your help, wxl23:47
wxlyeah no problem23:48
wxlthose are always hard23:48
valoriewell, it happens sometimes23:48
valorieif he gets more personally involved, I'd love to vote +123:48
wxli appreciate @Sick_Rimmit's encouragement, but i think a little additional mentoring as far as how to create a *good* application might have gone a much longer way23:48
valorieyes, he didn't seem to have checked out other wiki pages, or other meetings23:50
valoriea prepared person makes for a really great meeting23:51
wxlyeah i know. this is a thing one learns when mentoring people... they don't always get it. you have to manage expectatiosn23:52
valoriewell, I got the feeling right at first that he completely didn't understand what Membership is about23:52
valorieand I loved that he *asked*23:52
wxlwell, it seemed like he was encouraged in the direction of membership without clear guidance as to what that meant or why it's good or bad or how to do it23:53
wxli mean i think that encouragement is great and i don't want to discount it at all23:53
wxlit's just that a meeting like that can be very deflating to the applicant :(23:53
valorieI wanted to head that off23:54
valoriethanks for helping23:54
wxlhappy to help :)23:55

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