 Friends, I have family issue my mum is very poorly, I may not make Andrea Del Sarto membership meeting. Please know that I vote Yes
 @Sick_Rimmit Sorry to hear that. Not a problem
 You folks in Dev have been very busy, it's very exciting to see the momentum building
 I got an introduction to the MD of Zymplify.com I think They're Going to sponsor us with a system. Hopefully we can use it for managing our social media, and marketing.
 Been moving things forward in the Phab Wiki, sadly I have not had the time in front of my machine be to upload the Kafe video yet, hopefully get back to it next week.
 @Sick_Rimmit, Right. Clive asked me the other day why that was not up.
 I had been planning to do little bit of Editing
 LOL. Would be a good idea!
 I have kdenlive running a treat on 17.10
 I hope to get it done next week
 @Sick_Rimmit, Great. I deliberately cherry picked uploading the latest (at the time) kdenlive 17.08 for artful, instead of 17.04 like the rest of the apps, as there were important changes and fixes.
 Well I made a 2 hour DVD with it for my friends Xmas present last week, and it worked so great
 :)
 I have old Samsung R710 core duo, 64bit 3gd Ram, 24gd swap on ssd
 World good
 Right got to go to hospital, CA Ch you later
[19:06] <wxl> did kubuntu put up any GCI tasks or is KDE doing it this year?
[19:59] <valorie> @Sick_Rimmit {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
[19:59] <valorie> wxl: no, we're not participating (KDE)
[20:00] <valorie> I think ubuntu is, but have no clue how we'd participate -- tsimonq2 might know?
[20:00] <wxl> no kubuntu tasks? :(
[20:00] <valorie> KDE is not doing GCi
[20:01] <valorie> I wasn't willing to lead, and nobody else stepped up
[20:01] <valorie> so I said we're not doing it, and many would-me mentors thanked me
[20:01] <valorie> everyone is just tired this year I guess
[20:01] <valorie> and lots of other stuff going on
[20:28] <wxl> ok well if anyone wants to propose tasks, i'd be happy to get them up there and mentor for them
[20:33] <valorie> so if you are interested in doing that, I would look for what Ubuntu is doing
[20:33] <valorie> as I recall, they were the org with the most tasks and students last year
 Hello any KC here that can help with membership application in #kubuntu
[22:21] <wxl> in #kubuntu? O_O
 Yes Andrea Del Sarto
[22:23] <wxl> those normally happen in a support channel?
 Sorry that is what I kesnt
 Meant
 I'm on my phone
[22:24] <wxl> that IS or isn't what you meant? hahahaha
 Fat fingers
[22:24] <wxl> apparently so
[22:24]  * wxl hands @Sick_Rimmit a bluetooth keyboard
 He he
[22:24] <wxl> i did see an email from valorie in reply
 Thanks
[22:24] <wxl> ahoneybun: was about a bit ago
 I will check email
[22:25] <ahoneybun> wxl: what?
[22:26] <wxl> ahoneybun: @Sick_Rimmit is looking for councillors to discuss Andrea's app
 what's up @Sick_Rimmit
[22:27] <valorie> where is Andrea?
[22:27] <wxl> yeah that's the question i had XD
[22:27] <wxl> maybe on Telegram?
 Kubuntu support we have member application
[22:28] <valorie> I'm worried about the passive nature of the membership ask here
[22:28] <valorie> we like people to set up the meeting on their own initiative
[22:28] <valorie> meeting should be in -devel
 He has set this up by himself with encourage meant from me
[22:29] <valorie> ok
 Can we at least go discuss with him
[22:30] <valorie> but some interaction is missing
[22:30] <valorie> go where?
 He is waiting
[22:30] <valorie> where?
[22:30] <wxl> "where" are you "going" to?
 Kubuntu support on IRC
[22:30] <valorie> no, not in support
[22:30] <valorie> that is not the channel
[22:30] <wxl> that seems like a really weird place to have a membership meeting as aforementioned
[22:31] <valorie> in kubuntu-devel
 Ok devel
 I'm hanging by à thread here guys, 300 mike's from home on a phonev trying to coordinate in between hospital visits
 Help me out will you
[22:33] <valorie> {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} for you and your mum, @sick_rimmit
 ❤️ thanks v Valorie
[22:47] <valorie> <3
[23:28] <wxl> an aside: kde contributions don't count as contributions for kubuntu? i mean if someone is using kubuntu and they see something to fix..
[23:30] <valorie> well, it depends
[23:30] <valorie> so if you file the bug in LP *and* bko, and test the fixes, etc.
[23:30] <valorie> it counts for both
[23:31] <wxl> sure
[23:31] <valorie> say if you write something for KDE, and then spread it via Kubuntu as well
[23:31] <valorie> it counts here
[23:31] <wxl> yeah well did any of his artwork get here somehow? did he tell anyone about it? maybe there's a kubuntu-artwork mailing list i don't know about?
[23:31] <valorie> but just upstream countributions on their own, not so much
[23:31] <valorie> everything should be in kubuntu-devel
[23:32] <valorie> so art contributions ARE valuable, but if nobody tells us about them, we only find out by chance
[23:32] <wxl> right
[23:32] <valorie> now on our website, we noticed!
[23:32] <wxl> which might be the disconnect with the kubuntu community
[23:32] <valorie> yeah
[23:33] <valorie> we need lots of involvement from lots of people
[23:33] <valorie> so nobody is doing a big job all by themselves
[23:33] <valorie> like acheronuk is doing right now
[23:47] <valorie> sorry @Sick_Rimmit
[23:47] <valorie> I think he was just not quite ready
[23:47] <valorie> good meeting anyway
[23:47] <valorie> thanks for your help, wxl
[23:48] <wxl> yeah no problem
[23:48] <wxl> those are always hard
[23:48] <valorie> well, it happens sometimes
[23:48] <valorie> if he gets more personally involved, I'd love to vote +1
[23:48] <wxl> i appreciate @Sick_Rimmit's encouragement, but i think a little additional mentoring as far as how to create a *good* application might have gone a much longer way
[23:50] <valorie> yes, he didn't seem to have checked out other wiki pages, or other meetings
[23:51] <valorie> a prepared person makes for a really great meeting
[23:52] <wxl> yeah i know. this is a thing one learns when mentoring people... they don't always get it. you have to manage expectatiosn
[23:52] <valorie> well, I got the feeling right at first that he completely didn't understand what Membership is about
[23:52] <valorie> and I loved that he *asked*
[23:53] <wxl> well, it seemed like he was encouraged in the direction of membership without clear guidance as to what that meant or why it's good or bad or how to do it
[23:53] <wxl> i mean i think that encouragement is great and i don't want to discount it at all
[23:53] <wxl> it's just that a meeting like that can be very deflating to the applicant :(
[23:54] <valorie> I wanted to head that off
[23:54] <valorie> thanks for helping
[23:55] <wxl> happy to help :)