[03:39] <ios> ciao
[03:39] <ios> mi date una mano
[03:39] <ios> pls
[11:10] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:35] <user|6104> Hello. how can i install the software Center from Ubunto into Kubuntu ?
[14:40] <Darkchaos> In Kubuntu it's just called "Discover"
[14:40] <Darkchaos> If that's what you are looking for, user|6104
[14:42] <BluesKaj> user|6104, kubuntu alredy has one it's called discover, or you could install muon which is a really good package manger , just not as pretty
[14:42] <user|6104> thx. but it's not look like the same
[14:43] <BluesKaj> user kubuntu and ubuntu don't look the same , they usae diffewrent desktops
[14:43] <BluesKaj> user|6104,^
[14:43] <Darkchaos> Nothing on Kubuntu looks like on Ubuntu :) But it's definitely the software you use to download software
[14:44] <BluesKaj> don't think heknows kubuntu from ubuntu
[14:45] <user|6104> :-) yes of course. But for me is the Software Centre from Ubuntu the "nice" one
[14:45] <user|6104> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Software_Center#/media/File:Ubuntu_Software_Center_13.10.png
 I use Muon, this just would need image of software package, for me is perfect.
[14:47] <user|6104> so can i install this Software center ore not ?
 Muon on KDE Linux 17.10
[14:48] <Darkchaos> Not sure if it's possible, but really Discover looks like this: http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/kubuntu-16-04-lts-arrives-with-new-plasma-discover-software-center-kde-plasma-5-503315-3.jpg
[14:49] <user|6104> thx. i will try it
[14:53] <BluesKaj> user|6104, you probly can install "the software center"but it will bring a lot of gtk stuff with it
[16:28] <grel> hey, sup. i was wondering, how do i dual boot kubuntu and W10? (Legacy)
[16:31] <grel> anyone?
[16:34] <grel> uh?
[16:38] <BluesKaj> grel, UEFI or BIOS?
[16:38] <grel> BIOS.
[16:39] <BluesKaj> 2 partitions , one NTFS for windows and the other for Kubuntu
[16:39] <grel> well i already did that
[16:39] <grel> i've got 2 partitions for windows, and 2 partitons for kubuntu
[16:40] <grel> is that fine
[16:40] <BluesKaj> the Kubuntu partition is ext4, and install windows first to the NTFS
[16:40] <grel> i already did that
[16:40] <grel> plus can i make root and /home one partition
[16:40] <BluesKaj> 2 for windows ? why?
[16:40] <grel> C: for windows and D: for data
[16:40] <BluesKaj> root and /home are great for Kubuntu tho
[16:41] <grel> also is swap really needed
[16:41] <grel> i only have 4gigs so i was wondering
[16:42] <grel> well i'm already in the install and now it's saying "removing (stuff)" and "completely removing (stuff)" is that normal? BluesKaj
[16:43] <BluesKaj> grel, yes near the end of the install it removes temporary files
[16:43] <grel> ah
[16:44] <BluesKaj> swap is always a good idea
[16:44] <BluesKaj> how much ram ?
[16:44] <grel> so i've tried original ubuntu before and right after i installed i wasnt able to boot into W10 and I had to edit grub.cfg do i need to do in kubuntu too
[16:44] <grel> 4G
[16:46] <grel> sorry can you repeat again BluesKaj
[16:46] <BluesKaj> yes , just run sudo os-prober , then sudo update-grub
[16:46] <grel> ah
[16:46] <grel> alright
[16:46] <grel> thanks
[17:06] <P0kie_7> DROP P0kie_7 #Lum13t0R
[17:57] <kubusne> Hello, I have kubuntu installed on my notebook and am facing the following problem: I'm trying to update the system via apt. My /boot partition has no free diskspace. This makes trouble when trying to update the kernel
[18:00] <kubusne> I did: sudo apt autoremove --purge, but then I got: try run "apt --fix-broken install" to solve problems. I did, but this threw an error: error when trying to handle /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-4.10.0-42-generic_4.10.0-42.46_amd64.deb
[18:00] <kubusne> any ideas?
[19:23] <NewUser> i want to install kubuntu, i have no dvd drive, and only one hard drive. i thought i could boot an ISO using grub and then install it. But the kubunutu install forces me to unmount all partitions the drive is on. is there a way around this?
[19:24] <NewUser> unmount all paritions on the drive*
[19:29] <genii> If your machine can boot to a USB, best to just image the ISO file onto a stick and install from that
[19:29] <genii> This is the usual method nowadays
[19:30] <NewUser> cant i just edit the file system manually? then run the installer
[19:30] <NewUser> i do not have a USB stick
[19:31] <genii> There is no suitable way I'm aware of to install to the same device that you're installing from
[19:32] <NewUser> ok thanks for trying
[19:33] <NewUser> can anyone else help? i have done this before with older versions of ubuntu, if i am not editing the partition table i think this should be possible
[19:34] <genii> I'd recommend just go get a 4 GB stick from the corner store, most carry them now, for about $5
[19:35] <NewUser> i would prefer to learn why it is failing, and fix it.
[19:36] <genii> It's not failing, it's working as designed. EG: It's not allowing you to install on the installation media because that's usually Not A Good Idea
[19:39] <NewUser> thank you for your help genii, but i am looking for a more detailed answer. i was refering to thme failing not the program. They program only wants to unount the paritions to edit the partitions table right? so if i can make the partition table changes manually then i should be able to install this.
[19:41] <NewUser> i want to learn, to understand, to change and edit to achive my goal not give up becauase of a simple error message
[19:46] <genii> NewUser: Instead of using GRUB to load an ISO file, you'd be better off to have around a 4G partition on your drive near the end, then dd ISO file onto that. Then boot normally and run update-grub. Then reboot to the partition with the install, install onto the first partition. Then later, adjust the partitions to absorb the 4G one back in
[19:46] <krytarik> NewUser: Doesn't "sudo umount -l /isodevice" work?
[19:53] <NewUser> krytarik: ok, so you are saying i no longer need /isodevice now as the system has already booted
[19:53] <krytarik> Yes.
[19:53] <NewUser> krytarik: so where is my filesystem now, is it in ram?
[19:53] <krytarik> Yes.
[19:53] <NewUser> i so stupid ofcourse
[19:56] <NewUser> krytarik: i want to understand and learn how to check this myself. is there something i can google or documention i can read? for example i tried "sudo mount" but nothing really tells me the file system is in ram
[19:59] <NewUser> genii: ok i think i understand what you are saying, but why does using grub to boot the iso matter? why do i need to use dd to write it to a partition? i already have 3 partitions. 1) GPT ESP where grub is 2) blank ext for the install 3) the parition with the ISO
[20:06] <NewUser> ok going to restart back in couple of minutes, thanks for the help guys
[20:13] <delsa> hi to everyone
[20:24] <newuser> thanks for the help guys, i solved the issue. i unmounted the /isodevice, then the install worked. But before i could unmount /isodevice i had to add an extra boot paramater "toram" so the root file system would be 100% in memory and not using the /isodevice anymore
[20:28] <krytarik> Yeah, I've seen mention of this parameter before, but was never sure when you really need it.  You did use the '-l' option on unmounting though, did you?
[20:30] <newuser> i did not use the -l option
[20:30] <krytarik> Aha, ok.
[20:31] <newuser> -l, --lazy Lazy unmount.  Detach the filesystem from the file hierarchy now, and clean up all references to this filesystem as soon as it is not busy anymore.
[20:31] <newuser> back in a minute i think i just installed kubuntu :D
[20:42] <bedtime-latin> I am not able to access my settings in Konqueror. Is there something I need to install?
 Hi
[20:54] <delsa> hi
 So yesterday I installed ubuntu server and selected both kubuntu full and kubuntu desktop in the software list during installation. Everything installed and booted just fine
 Except everything is super glitchy
 (Video, 31s)https://irc-attachments.kde.org/Ulv1t64L/file_3823
 I haven't been able to find any solutions. Nothing is slow or laggy, it all works just fine except for the visual glitches. Not sure if it's a problem with my hardware or if it's a software problem
[21:09] <delsa> who's online for talk about membership?
[21:23] <delsa> ok.. I've entered on telegram kubuntu-support :)  so I quit IRC and I'll follow you there
 I'm here
 @aelxx, Hello, Alex. Does your machine have a GPU card?
 I'm not exactly sure, it's an older laptop
 There's an amd radeon xpress rs690m in it
 it seems you're running in the opensource driver rather than the privative driver, and that's causing these glitches on the screen (same happens to me with the nouveau driver)
 try to install the AMD drivers on the repository (if someone can trigger the ubottu command in IRC would be perfect)
 1111111111111111111111111111111111111111100000000000000000000000000000
 ???
 Hi friends
 Hi
 ☺️
 Any questions for @Andredelsa in regard to his membership
 One sec I go to nudge KC
 @Sick_Rimmit, Hello Rick!
 @Sick_Rimmit, how long have you been involved with the Kubuntu community?
[22:31] <valorie> this is the wrong channel for a meeting
[22:31] <valorie> sorry
[22:31] <valorie> this channel is for user support
 I drew 3 banners for Kubuntu and I helped in some podcasts
[22:31] <valorie> please can we move this to #kubuntu-devel
[22:31] <valorie> now
[22:33] <genii> @DGUERRERO, @Sick_Rimmit As valorie observes, we should keep this channel for support
 Sure let's move to devel
[22:34] <valorie> thanks
[22:34] <genii> ( also whoever else is on IrcsomeBot atm ) :)
 Sorry... Change now
[22:36] <dzalissimo> hi
[22:36] <dzalissimo> new to ubuntu here
[22:36] <dzalissimo> never used linux before...
[22:37] <valorie> dzalissimo: cool
[22:37] <valorie> how's it going so far?
[22:37] <dzalissimo> well
[22:37] <dzalissimo> i dont know lol
[22:37] <dzalissimo> its okay i guess
[22:37] <dzalissimo> everything is diffrent
[22:38] <dzalissimo> its very fast and not laggy,  i like that
[22:38] <dzalissimo> but ...
[22:38] <dzalissimo> i cant play Battlefield 2 : Project reality here... that kinda sucks lol
[22:39] <dzalissimo> i tried installing this quake shooter game but it wants some more data ...
[22:49] <dzalissimo> Excuse me everyone
[22:49] <dzalissimo> i have a question related to ubuntu
[22:49] <dzalissimo> is anyone willing to help me
[22:50] <valorie> dzalissimo: you have to ask the question!
[22:54] <dzalissimo> I need someone who works with bitcoins
[22:55] <dzalissimo> or some other virtual currency
[22:57] <dzalissimo> i have a business proposal, intrested message me
[22:57] <genii> dzalissimo: The usual way the support channel works is for the person requiring assistance states their actual question to the channel in general, and then a helper with the knowledge required to assist in that specific area steps in to help solve the issue
[22:57] <dzalissimo> well i need help to setup bitcoin mining on ubuntu.
[22:58] <dzalissimo> or etherium
[22:58] <dzalissimo> can someone help me with this ?
[23:01] <genii> dzalissimo: https://askubuntu.com/questions/457526/how-to-install-cpuminer-in-ubuntu
 @DGUERRERO, I'm just doing a fresh install from the latest iso, allowing it to automatically detect and install drivers during installation
 I had just installed so I'm not worried about data loss. I think it messed up because I installed through ubuntu server installation rather than just kubuntu itself
 @aelxx, that's probably the problem because ubuntu server is a core installation, and since it's intended for servers, rarely it includes any GPU driver