 @Sconio, this idea of blocking numbers from known spammers is a great idea.  that would be a huge feature if it was built into the OS or could be installed as an app. Problem is always, though, false registrations of spam.  What if your ex-girlfriend registers your numbers as a spam number ?  ;)
 @Flohack, can we create an internal school and raise up an army?  I'll be a student!
 @dohbee, I'm looking forward to stability, too.... but... maybe UBports helps with that journey?  I"m finding it does...
 @wayneoutthere, Stop calling her
 @wayneoutthere, Sometimes I wonder if I should block my ex's number
 @dohbee, This is probably a good idea tbh, especially if you're drunk
 Seumas do you still need help? use this program, start it in terminal, and then in another terminal just use normal unmdified old libertine scripts to create container:
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/HFhc74N1/file_2877.gz
 because I was able to use it without sudo
 it will in real time check if  there is a container with bad sources.list and fix it on the fly
 so when your old libertine container is instaled it will be detected and fixed in time
 it will print message when it fixes the file
[06:12] <tgBot> gouster4 was added by: gouster4
 @gouster4, Hello Gouster 4 and welcome!  I'm part of the UBports welcoming team.    … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :)
 Hi. :)
 Hello ✌️
[08:12] <tgBot> j chen was added by: j chen
 Hello j and welcome! I'm part of the UBports welcoming team. … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :)
[08:14] <tgBot> <j chen> thank you😄
 Is it normal that my hammerhead can't connect to any network?
 Thank you Kris but I managed in the end with Rodney's suggestions. Yay Libertine, lives up to it's name :) I'm asking the landlord to fix the home network via the ISP and hopefully that should help the MP5's dropouts. Still need to figure out why WiFi paswwords don't persist after reboot, though.
 *passwords
 where can we install LIbertine in UBports? it's not available yet in Openstore right?
 I want to try desktop apps on my Nexus 5, I got plenty of space :D
 @Javacookies, https://wiki.ubports.com/wiki/Libertine%3A-install-and-manage-desktop-applications
 This is how I installed those desktop apps
 This is the best guide I think:
 (Photo, 1920x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/3HRvOk45/file_2879.jpg
 thanks for the links but this is how to use LIbertine and LIbretine isn't installed by default in Ubports
 Forgive me for resorting to a screenshot, but I can't paste into Terminal on MP5 for some reason. Also don't worry about the site being blocked, it's because of my bus's WiFi network being silly and over-protective.
 (Photo, 1920x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/HlyFrRj7/file_2881.jpg
 This'll do it for ya, use a desktop/laptop to shell into the device and run it from there.
 @Javacookies, If you rread the wiki   everything is explained there
 Make sure the phablet is writable.
[09:20] <tgBot> <Big ET> what is the supergroup for romanian speaking ubports?
 okay, I'll try those, thanks
 @Big ET, https://t.me/UBports_RO_ro
 @Rawcode, No?
 It stopped with an update?
 Nope, yesterday it worked fine I think. I just booted it up and nothing
 Is there a supergroup for Slovak speaking UBports users? Or am I the only one?
 Or is there a czech one? Slovaks get usually lumped in with that bunch :D
 @Rawcode, Nevermind it works now. I deleted my wifi  network
 @tylnesh, Chat with Milan
 (Sticker, 512x509) https://irc.ubports.com/F65FXLpM/file_2882
 @tylnesh, Hi I notice only you , than Peter also from Slovakia and me Czech here There for I did not created any new our SG 😰
 no problem, I was just messiing around :)
 And Peter has disappeared 🤣
 If you create a group it may start to fill?
 He translate all into Slovak in Weblate and since than I miss him
 It might be a better to create a CzechoSlovak group, so that we don't fragment it further
 @Stereofont, Let us wait until OTA 3 is out
 D -6 😃
[11:29] <tgBot> stuartlangridge was added by: stuartlangridge
 I've just tried flashing my Nexus 4, as per instructions at https://ubports.com/page/get-ubuntu-touch, and what I get is three flashing red circles on screen, like the world's saddest Knight Rider scrolling light. That seems like it's not what should happen. :)
 oh!
 that clearly is what was meant to happen. Now I've got an Ubuntu touch splash screen. Heh. Might wanna make that red circle screen more obviously mean "things are flashing" rather than "things are broken" :)
 Hello @stuartlangridge and welcome! I'm part of the UBports welcoming team. … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :)
 and it's flashed OK. :)
 Nice to hear!
 There is currently a more user friendly Installer in the works, requiring you to just push a button and then just do everything automatically. In its interface you would then get the appropriate feedback, until it finally says "everything done"
 right. TBH the experience was fine, except that three flashing circles do not say "everything is fine", they say "everything is broken" :) If that were some better indication that it was working but busy, I would have been perfectly happy :)
 @Lyokanthrope, i am the one who promised to test the 5x a month ago
 and I never did
 🤷‍♂
 Anybody working on a bitwarden app for ubports?
 There is LastPass web app
 @milkor73, Push notification and Czech supergroup will be released with OTA-3 ? ;)
[13:02] <tgBot> A B was added by: A B
 I C U, A
 @A B, Hello A B and welcome!  I'm part of the UBports welcoming team.    … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :)
 @milkor73 what should I contact Florian about?
[13:12] <tgBot> <A B> Hello together, maybe I'm at the wrong place. But I need some help to flash my BQ E4.5. I tried it several times   using the MDT as well as the system-image server. Both ended with the bq welcome screen after a 75% reboot after an successfull flash. Where can I get help?
 @stuartlangridge, about the push server and Caxton app, he @Flohack may maybe help you or at least any feedback
 Hi, with Ubports version i can't send file with app Facebook Basic.
 @A B, Welcome room there we will help you
 @milkor73, OK, cool. As far as I'm aware I should be able to just use https://push.ubports.com/notify  instead of push.ubuntu.com and that's all, right? Happy to hear thoughts on this from experts though :)
 Yes
 Or just be unconfined, and read the config file from disk
 No reason for Caxton to be unconfined :)
 @Seumas, great to hear
 @stuartlangridge, Please contact me to get instructions how to move the push service
 @stuartlangridge, Ok yes thats all ^^
 no need to contact me then 😆
 Just a question on the new push server out of curiosity, and sorry if it is too obvious as I don't have a cue on how it works. It used to be the we needed an Ubuntu One account to get the notifications in Telegram. No account is needed for the Ubports push server to send us notifications?
 @Flohack, 😊 Just checking
 @wagafo, Nothing changes, the Ubuntu One account is necessary on the phone client. While not used, we currently still need this
 Later on we can discuss it but I gave an answer about this today already in terms of "Abuse protectioN" for our server. We need to make a small barrier of identification otherwise ppl will exploit it for bad things maybe
 @Flohack, Thanks!
 @Flohack, Good to know... every time I launch Telegram it asks me to sign in.... guess I should do that now ;P
 @Crash_Burn, Yes please ^^ otherwise push client is sleeping
 Its funny they dont even use the token from U1 for anything
 just checking if its there
 @Flohack, It uses the token to request a push token from the server, which is then what gets sent to tg/whatever
 "it" being ubuntu-push-client
 @dohbee, But since the push server does not ask U1 if it is legit, you can just use anything as a token
 Anyone with deeper understanding or experience with devices not fully booting but getting stuck at the splash screen is invited to join the discussion in the welcome room
 @Crash_Burn, Go figure.  this may need to be explained to newcomers.... And old comers:) very good to know ha
 Is there an application to use my bluetooth cardiometer?
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/vSs1PNpy/file_2886.jpg
 It's a video. Is that normal?
 At the moment yes they are fixing open with UTmedia app for the moment
[15:30] <tgBot> <Owen Roe> Does anyone know if the Dialer app supports SIP?
 @milkor73, Thanks :)
 @Rawcode, Looks like a codec problem
 @Owen Roe, I saw SIP support only by the app: uMatriks mariogrip test
[15:47] <tgBot> <Owen Roe> Okay, thanks.
 Fwd from Flohack: There is a SIP client initiative spinning up, we try to reuse linphone on the UT phone ;)
 @Stereofont, Wonderful 😊
 No guarantees, no promises …
 @Owen Roe, We have started something. @bhdouglass have build and adpated linphone libs to work on the phone and I have to try to sink the rest. Not much time at the moment :( … Buuuuut we will do someting about it … https://t.me/joinchat/A2L4aw6g_RvP9GpYGos4LQ
[16:22] <tgBot> <Owen Roe> Well that is very good to hear. :)
 @dohbee, it doesn't even do that 😆 it merely checks that a U1 account exists client side and prevents app registration if not. It uses `base64(/var/lib/dbus/machine-id + appid) as the registration token
 @cibersheep, There's a branch on lp to add
 @dohbee, I don't understand
 @cibersheep, there was work already happening to get SIP support on stock ubuntu phone. there are bzr branches on lp for it, and merge proposals, from when unity8 was canceled. i am not sure how complete they are, but it was moving along then
 part of the new messaging-framework stuff that didn't quite land
 @DanChapman, yeah, i'm having a little trouble following the golang server code. there may have been additional checks in front of the actual push server on push.u.c too. don't recall exactly
 @dohbee, Oh. I didn't know. That sounds promising
 @cibersheep, So why don't you join our telwhram group and share what you knwo?
 w?
 ?
 @Rawcode, This reminds me of how everything looked during my high school years...
 https://t.me/joinchat/A2L4aw6g_RvP9GpYGos4LQ
 oh
 @wayneoutthere, You are too old @wayneoutthere
[17:55] <tgBot> <Gerd Sänger> Last week(end) Florian Leeber told us that there was a meeting planned with some people from BQ. Anything worth or possible to mention about that contact?
 @Gerd Sänger, Shhh.... don't jinx it! ;)
 Last devel image removed Ubuntu store. Feels nice
 @technicalbird, no... it had to do with some chemicals in my body at the time....
 @wayneoutthere, that'd be a lot of jolt cola
 @Xenial, It is gone, yes and Openstore is default
 @wayneoutthere, Lol
 Is there some way I can run, on my Nexus 4, the "development" version of ubports so that I can test out the push client before OTA-3 comes out?
 @stuartlangridge, you can presumably switch to the devel channel in settings, i guess
 @stuartlangridge, Yep! Settings -> Update -> Update Settings
 After switching, head back to the updates screen
 ah, it hadn't picked up the updates. Now I see them. I shall update.
 and, fabulous, Caxton now works. Didn't need to change the app at all. Hooray. Done, @bhdouglass 😊
 and the "Share via Caxton" link on uappexplorer works, too.
 That's nice. So, if you want to be able to easily "push" app links from your desktop browser to your phone, install Caxton from the open app store, then sign in to uappexplorer and add a "Caxton code" in your settings (get this by pressing "get a code for an app" in the Caxton app on your phone). You can then, on a uappexplorer page, do Share > Send via Caxton, and the URL appears on your phone.
 🍻
 @bhdouglass it ought to be possible to push the openstore:// URL via caxton, rather than the uappexplorer http url.
 If you're interested in pushing URLs (or any other info via IFTTT) to your phone via push notifications without having to write your own app to do it, have a look at https://caxton.herokuapp.com
 @stuartlangridge, True I need to change this since the canonical store is being removed from the device
 yeah; I think pushing the direct openstore: URL would be fine; then tapping it in Caxton would open the open store.
 Yeah that makes sense, a scope:// url is being sent now
 is there an equivalent of the defunct https://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/platform/guides/push-notifications-server-guide for ubports that I can link to?
 @Gerd Sänger, I got live comments internally during speaking telling me I should not say too much. Last Week :) But I can say that yes we had this meeting and it was very productive
 We have to work out the details but I think its OK to say that BQ still sees UT as an interesting platform for their devices and is open to cooperation and marketing with us
 @stuartlangridge, I don't think those docs have made it across to api-docs.ubports.com yet. Probably needs a "platform" section adding for it.
 Cool! Thumbs up for (possible) new devices.. 👍
 @stuartlangridge there's still this for now though https://docs.ubuntu.com/phone/en/platform/guides/push-notifications-server-guide
 @DanChapman, no worries; it's just that the Caxton homepage links to them and they ain't there any more :) Not a problem; they're only needed if you're a developer, and you want to integrate Caxton, and you want to fill in tags. Almost everyone never needs to look at the upstream docs; Caxton is really simple, for a reason :)
[19:49] <tgBot> <Gerd Sänger> Thank you, Florian, to shed a little light on parts of your meeting with BQ. Now I will remain patiently waiting what comes up next from that direction.
 what is bq?
 bq.com
 @Rawcode, They were a business partner of Canonical. They are based in Spain and design and sell a phone range
 wow didn't know you could still get refurbished m10's https://store.bq.com/en/aquaris-m10-fhd-ubuntu
 @DanChapman, I got one a couple if months back. Seemed new
 They have a wider range of clearance on their Spanish site
 👍 awesome!
 @Stereofont, they sell very interesting devices
[20:03] <tgBot> Andi_friede was added by: Andi_friede
 @Rawcode, +1
 @Andi_friede, Hello Andi and welcome!  I'm part of the UBports welcoming team.    … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :)
 Wooohoooo....i got an oneplus one today...flashed ubuports in IT...great!!! So far i Had a bq e5 . … On the oneplus the camera App zooming seems Not to Work. Anyone Made the Same experience?
 are they compatible with ubuntu touch?
 @Andi_friede, Congratulations! Cameras are complicated so in many cases there is still only basic functionality. With the new FP2 module there is no function at all at the moment 😀
 Ah okay! Well then WE have to wait a Bit until everything works.
 @Rawcode, Only the old 4.5 and E5. They have moved their range to Qualcomm chips though. We must hope…
 understand
 @Andi_friede, Yes. There are very few developers and I think no imaging specialists. What we have already is great though
 @Andi_friede, German speaker perhaps?
 Haha...japp you really got me :)
 There is a German language group fir UBports. See in the News Channel link
 You are welcome in both obviously
 Ah okay. Thanks a Lot for the hint!
 Almost 1050 in here.... go figure....   now, if just 10% of us did 30 minutes of work per day on UBports to develop, spread and build relationships, that would be 3150 hours of productivity per day or 131 hours per day.  So, for all of us who have said 'I need more than 24 hours in my day" now we know how! Let's DOOOO THIIS!
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/FF6BYrCv/file_2887.mp4
 rome wasn't burned in a day though, even with 3150 man-hours of people working on it
 did you say burned?
 that was awesome.
 AHAHAHAH
 it will take more than a day to burn UBPORTS!!!!!
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/Fjdzq6fU/file_2887.mp4
 lol
 @wayneoutthere, are you telling me to open an another can of monster
 @Flohack, Nice 🙂, Thanks Florian for this Feedback
 @Flohack, 😍
 @vanyasem, Ni
 @Flohack, thanks for focusing on that, Florian.  Keep up the momentum since this will be most excellent to have a few manufacturers who will gain with our growth and development
 @vanyasem, yes
 huh. opinions split
 @Flohack, Woop woop
 Is there a halium telegram or group to ask for help? I've got my nexus 4 booting into telnet but it doesn't seem to be loading the rootfs and so no ssh (and the chroot instructions on the halium docs page is complaining about missing bash/sh)
 i think so but i don't recall what it is
 @retro486, Yeah idk what the telegram link is, but if you use Matrix or IRC I could tell you how to reach it via them
 Yeah I can use IRC
 I'm guessing it's #halium? :)
 Yup
 *sigh* Didn't read step 1 either: https://docs.halium.org/en/latest/porting/first-steps.html
 Says right there how to get in touch. :) Thanks!
 Good news folks: cut my Micro SIM down to Nano size and seems to work fine on my Pro 5. Albeit I've seen a behaviour where the H symbol goes blank and goes back and forth between blank and visible quite often. The net connection seems to maintain even during blank moments. So I take it this is both expected and benign behavior?
 i wouldn't say that it's expected behavior, but no idea what's really going on there with the pro5
 Now I'm back on a 4G connection (despite sitting down and being completely stationary, go figure my sofa out) and that behavior isn't observed. Whatever, the telephony behaves as expected so far apart from that minor oddity.
 We pushed RC now in spite of the upcoming OTA release. RC users can update ^^
 i'm doing it right now :)
[22:55] <tgBot> kz6fittycent was added by: kz6fittycent
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/kFeunx0U/file_2888.mp4
 lol
 Welcome team, this guy has been here before, stand down
 haha
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/e6BDCWxd/file_2889.mp4
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/VqCOmLqx/file_2890.mp4
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/SINOCZcQ/file_2891.mp4
 I don't know why, but I can't see your photos
 omg is gif warr here ... take cover
 @Rawcode, Gifs not supported
 @Stereofont, Thanks Lione :)
 Does anyone know where the app data for (Facebook) Messenger is on a device? It's the one made by Electronome inc.
 Booya, NICK!  BOOYA!  Welcome back my canadian brother from another mother!  Let's DOOOO THIS!!!!
 10 cups of coffee today and I'm FEEEEEEELING IT!!!!!
 where is my microphone????
 @wayneoutthere, do not look at me
 @ebetonro, It's FREE T-SHIRT MAN!  Are you romanian?  Do you live in Romania?  Call @ebetonro for your free t-shirt NOW!!!!
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/CIYm1is8/file_2892.mp4
 @wayneoutthere, I will let my dog to eat your mike
 and keyboard
 and now I really need to sleep see you all around