[00:07] <tomreyn> rolandbeowulf: not something i've run to before, but i haven't used this release. it might be a hint on low RAM. how much memory do yuo have there?
[00:07] <tomreyn> free -g would tell
[00:10] <rolandbeowulf> 8 GB, i've checked htop though and it doesnt seem like my usage is *that* high
[00:11] <rolandbeowulf> also it only lags over icons, which seems to imply it might be some sort of software issue
[00:11] <rolandbeowulf> as if there is some sort of smooth slowdown over icons that isnt working properly
[00:16] <tomreyn> or a graphics driver issue
[00:17] <rolandbeowulf> Also i cant seem to find the option to set up a second display in the new gnome interface
[00:24] <rolandbeowulf> Looks like the issue was wayland
[00:25] <rolandbeowulf> I logged out and back into xorg and it works perfectly
[00:25] <rolandbeowulf> detects both displays too
[00:26] <rolandbeowulf> Does anyone happen to know how to get the sidebar thing to display at the bottom?
[00:27] <bazhang> rolandbeowulf, what version of ubuntu is this
[00:27] <rolandbeowulf> 17.10
[00:28] <bazhang> rolandbeowulf, did you mean the unity laucher on the left
[00:28] <rolandbeowulf> yeah
[00:28] <bazhang> thats not possible
[00:29] <bazhang> you could install gnome-shell, the other gnome3 shell
[00:29] <rolandbeowulf> Actually just did it i think
[00:30] <rolandbeowulf> settings > dock > position on screen: bottom
[01:11] <rscheideman> what is the story on 17.10 where openssh server does not start right away because the local nic is not activated right away in the install.
[01:12] <howudodat> ok, I'm back with my display problem.  read-edid shows Mode 0 2560 2608 2640 2720 1440 1443 1448 1481 +hsync +vsync, so the device seems to be reporting the correct information for 2560x1440, however neither X nor wayland are picking up that resolution and are defaulting to 1920x1080
[01:12] <rscheideman> and why is ifconfig not installed by default
[01:12] <Mathisen> use ip instead
[01:13] <rscheideman> so after using ifconfig since 4.10 i know have toi use ip....sad chose
[01:14] <Loshki> rscheideman: I understand ifconfig has been obsoleted, but is still available in net-tools or similar
[01:16] <rscheideman> Loshki: but why and when did this happen?
[01:17] <Loshki> rscheideman: apparently you are not the only person to ask: https://serverfault.com/questions/633087/where-is-the-statement-of-deprecation-of-ifconfig-on-linux
[01:19] <rscheideman> Loshki: i mean it might be the case it is not lts version and they are trying something new
[01:19] <rscheideman> i don't remeber it in 17.04
[01:22] <damian> hey guys. just installed 17.10 trying to get samba up and running (done this a heap of times before)
[01:22] <damian> i've modified my smb.conf to include the [share] i want and configured it as i've done others in the past, i've smbpasswd the user
[01:22] <rscheideman> damian: what is happening?
[01:22] <damian> but whenever i try and \\browse it throws me an auth error
[01:23] <damian> wondering if something's changed in recent versions, as i haven't configured it since 16.04 or so
[01:24] <rscheideman> with everything they hace changed in 17.10 i am not surprised
[01:24] <rscheideman> i think i will stick with 16.04 until 18.04 comes out.
[01:25] <amirite> asdf
[01:26] <damian> lol damnit
[01:32] <amirite> i wrote a script and systemd service file for it. the script crashes on first run because it depends on something being available (an AWS IAM instance role not yet in effect), so I set the file to Restart=on-failure and RestartSec=10 but it doesn't run again. it just fails once and moves on.
[01:32] <amirite> how do I make it restart on failure?
[01:57] <qq_> hi
[01:57] <qq_> sho is on?
[01:57] <qq_> who*
[01:58] <mutante> qq_: use the /whois command to find out
[01:58] <qq_> mutante, thanksi just need to recover my ubuntu partition
[01:58] <qq_> can u help me please...
[01:58] <qq_> or smb else can help me?
[01:59] <mutante> !ask
[01:59] <qq_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[01:59] <qq_> Disk /dev/sda: 111.8 GiB, 120034123776 bytes, 234441648 sectors
[01:59] <qq_> Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[01:59] <qq_> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[01:59] <qq_> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[01:59] <qq_> Disklabel type: dos
[02:00] <mutante> qq_: please use pastebin for multiple lines
[02:01] <qq_> paste ubuntu is a good alternative to pastebin?
[02:03] <qq_> mutante, sorry to ask, but is my paste ubuntu link working? are u able to see its content?
[02:04] <Bashing-om> qq_: The result of the pastebin directive is a URL back in terminal, pass that link back here .
[02:06] <qq_> Bashing-om, mutante, https://pastebin.com/ZRCEAgAb
[02:07] <mutante> qq_: i can see it, and that was right use of pastebin.  but .. doesnt mean i know the answer yet. what about those FAT partitions?
[02:08] <mutante> eh NTFS
[02:08] <qq_> mutante, i have dual boot
[02:08] <mutante> seems like a Windows thing?
[02:08] <qq_> yeah
[02:08] <mutante> so it's not really an Ubuntu question? sorry, what's the acutal question again?
[02:08] <qq_> i have windows and ubuntu that i am not using already for a year since it has broken :(
[02:08] <mutante> what do you want to achieve?
[02:09] <qq_> i want to recover my ubuntu partition
[02:09] <qq_> when i boot the computer
[02:09] <qq_> i do not get that window to dual boot
[02:09] <mutante> but?  aren't you already on it.. so you can run these commands?
[02:09] <Bashing-om> qq_: No ubuntu there in sda. All Windows .. // how do you know there was ever a ubuntu install on this drive ?
[02:09] <qq_> and now i have tried to see if the linux partition is detected, and i am not seeing it :(
[02:09] <qq_> i have 3 drives in my laptop
[02:10] <qq_> i think that i have updated the ubuntu and when i rebooted the system it go broken
[02:10] <mitmf> Connection closed by 192.168.0.34 port 22  <— why i can’t  connect with ssh?
[02:10] <qq_> i am from live ubuntu right now
[02:11] <Bashing-om> qq_: As you think 3 drives . pastebin ' sudo fdisk -lu ' . we see what the story is then .
[02:11] <mutante> mitmf: do you control 192.168.0.34 ?
[02:11] <mitmf> control?
[02:12] <mitmf> i didn’t anything
[02:12] <mutante> mitmf: "have root" "be the admin"
[02:12] <mutante> is it your own machine or someone elses?
[02:12] <mutante> that kind of "control"
[02:12] <mitmf> it is raspberry pi
[02:12] <qq_> Bashing-om, mutante, https://pastebin.com/ZguciGji
[02:13] <mitmf> ubuntu ——> raspberry pi
[02:13] <mutante> mitmf: login on rasberry pi locally, then once you are on it, i would try "ssh localhost" first to see how that goes.. then i would use netstat  and  ps  to check if sshd is running and the port is open..
[02:15] <Bashing-om> qq_: :) sdd5 has a linux file system . So we can look/check/verify/mount/ What is your desire ?
[02:15] <mosi> tomreyn: thanks
[02:16] <qq_> Bashing-om, u said " So we can look/check/verify/mount/ What is your desire ?" what u mean with the desire? i just have to run that command? there is some issue by running this command?
[02:17] <Art100> Hello
[02:18] <qq_> Art100, we are not very hellowish here, but anyway, hello
[02:18] <Bashing-om> qq_: No command . The linux partition does exist - what are your thoughts on what you want now to do with it ?
[02:19] <qq_> well, i dont know. what are the possibilities to do with it?
[02:19] <qq_> i just want to recover my ubuntu and files that i had in it
[02:19] <qq_> Bashing-om,
[02:21] <Bashing-om> qq_: Wre me, I would reset the boot priority in bios to boot the sdd drive . see what rsults . depending on results, maybe check that file system and see what it takes to boot it ??
[02:21] <qq_> wre means to talk with u in private?
[02:23] <qq_> Bashing-om, how to i check the file system and how after that i see what it takes to boot it?
[02:23] <Bashing-om> qq_: wre is a typo .. should be were :)
[02:24] <qq_> ah. ok
[02:25] <Bashing-om> qq_: Let's see what results in resetting the boot priority in bios to that hard drive . If it does not boot then we run a file system check and then install( re-install ) the boot code to the sdd drive . sound like a plan ?
[02:28] <qq_> Bashing-om, ok, sounds good
[02:28] <qq_> let me try then do to this. will be back shortly ;). thanks
[02:28] <Bashing-om> qq_: I will await your return :)
[02:40] <banisterfiend> can someone explain to me why: wc -l < $(ls)  is NOT equivalent to either: ls | wc -l   OR cat $(ls) | wc -l   ?
[03:37] <damian> does anyone know if you have to do something special with samba in order to make it work on 17.10? i've just rebuilt my vm and reconfigured just in case i screwed something up .. and it still doesn't allow login
[03:39] <Joaquin-V> I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 but software updater isn't giving me the option to update to 17.10. I have my updates for any version thing setup
[03:56] <marijuana> I think that is considered an upgrade, not update
[03:56] <marijuana> I always ruin things when I upgrade my linuces
[03:56] <marijuana> :(
[04:03] <robozi> Hi
[04:06] <marijuana> hi:)
[04:06] <robozi> I have booted the ubuntu from the other drive. I had the grub interface and i have choosen ubuntu. Selected it and after the i get a black screen
[04:06] <robozi> My previous nick was qq_
[04:08] <chowder> robozi, any more information like error messages?
[04:08] <robozi> Nothing
[04:08] <Bashing-om> robozi: wb . for the black screen try the nomodeset boot paramater ->
[04:08] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | robozi
[04:10] <Joaquin-V> managed to get ubuntu to upgrade by using the executable in /usr/lib/ubuntu-whatever
[04:38] <marcisb> Hello everyone i cant install php version 7.1
[04:38] <marcisb> I cant understand why it happens
[04:41] <robozi> Ubottu, how do i enter in the grub menu using the shift key?
[04:45] <robozi> When i see the options to choose the Operating systems. I choose ubuntu holding the shift key. But then i do not get in the grub menu
[04:46] <Bashing-om> robozi: as soon as the bios splash screen clears depress a shift key .
[05:18] <robozi> Bashing-om, https://youtu.be/wicNBwz5uOc does not work as u can see in the video
[05:18] <robozi> Or i have done something wrong?
[05:21] <Bashing-om> robozi: looking .
[05:27] <Bashing-om> robozi: At that grub boot menu 'e' key for edit mode -> boot options screen >> arrow down to the line starting with linux and across to quiet splash. replace quiet splash with the term nomodeset . key combo ctl+x to continue the boot process .
[05:33] <robozi> Bashing-om, ok got to the ubuntu screen where i have to enter my password
[05:34] <robozi> But after i enter it i cannot enter in the OS
[05:34] <robozi> After i enter the password*
[05:34] <robozi> It is like it rwfreshes the window after i enter the passowrd
[05:35] <robozi> Cant enter even in the guest session
[05:37] <Bashing-om> robozi: :) .. at the login screen key combo ctl+alt+F1 to gain a terminal . login here .. and tell me the results of terminal command ' ls -al .ICEauthority .Xauthority ' .
[05:48] <robozi> Bashing-om, the password is not working :(
[05:51] <Bashing-om> robozi: Oh mercy . lemme ponder a bit . getting too strange .
[05:51] <Elec_A> Hi, I know one of the best development laptops currently is XPS 13. are there any alternatives to that? I want a cheaper, thin laptop and I'm mostly just coding. Do you have any suggestions ?
[05:51] <Elec_A> I cannot afford XPS 13.
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> Elec_A: the way i see it, with a fast ssd you could make any laptop morepowerfull and the right cpu
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> Elec_A: i5 + samsung 850 pro ssd + ubuntu
[05:53] <robozi> Bashing-om Ubuntu problem https://imgur.com/gallery/rJzhD
[05:54] <Elec_A> let me have a look at samsung 850
[05:54] <Elec_A> lotuspsychje: oh Samsung 850 is SSD
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> Elec_A: yes
[05:55] <Elec_A> lotuspsychje: I think you are right, I should go with i5s
[05:55] <mosi> Elec_A: you're shopping for a dev workstation?
[05:55] <Leevancleef> The "XPS 13 Developer Edition" seems to come with a Kaby Lake i7 U-series
[05:55] <mosi> (laptop)
[05:55] <Leevancleef> So I mean, there are a lot of comparable laptops out there
[05:56] <Leevancleef> @ Elec_A
[05:56] <mosi> Elec_A: do you actually need high-end power?
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> perhaps we should take this to #ubuntu-discuss guys
[05:56] <mosi> i do all my dev on an x200T with a core2duo from like 10 years ago, it works just fine
[05:57] <Elec_A> mosi: yes, I do GPU coding for a GPU cluster. It would be great if I could test my CUDA codes on my laptop. but it shouldn't be really powerful, since I will just write and test my codes on my laptop.
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> mosi, Leevancleef Elec_A come to #ubuntu-discuss
[05:58] <robozi> Bashing-om, is there some alternative?
[05:58] <robozi> Are there*
[05:58]  * mosi checks out instead
[05:59] <Bashing-om> robozi: At that "jojo" login box press ctl+alt+F1 . What results ?
[06:00] <robozi> Is the same result as ctl+alt+f1
[06:01] <robozi> Bashing-om
[06:01] <robozi> I meant f6
[06:02] <robozi> In the imgur i have posted 2 photos
[06:02] <robozi> One from unity gui
[06:02] <robozi> Other from the virtual konsole
[06:03] <Bashing-om> robozi: Wierd . ok different direction: reboot to the grun menu, here select advanced options, then select a recovery kernel .
[06:03] <Bashing-om> grub menu*
[06:05] <Elec_A> mosi: what do you think about this : https://www.ebay.com/itm/ThinkPad-X200-12-1-Tablet-Core-Duo-1-86GHz-3GB-RAM-160GB-HDD-WIFI-LINUX/132044566767?hash=item1ebe7830ef:g:UVYAAOSwUKxYX~Cn
[06:07] <mosi> Elec_A: I think I can't in all good faith recommend that if you're doing CUDA development
[06:08] <Elec_A> mosi: I might be able to SSH into server. can't I ?
[06:08] <Elec_A> and it's cheap
[06:08] <Elec_A> and small
[06:09] <Elec_A> but I'm still looking
[06:09] <mosi> Elec_A: i'm gonna /q you real quick to keep this out of general channel
[06:09] <Elec_A> okay
[06:19] <robozi> Bashing-om, ok have done that and done the grub editing. Changed quiet splash with nomodeset and it didnt work with the passoword :(
[06:21] <Bashing-om> robozi: Past my bed time and I am past good think-a-bility . Let's pick this back up tomorrow .
[06:23] <robozi> Bashing-om one more minute
[06:23] <robozi> I am uploading a video to utube
[06:23] <robozi> To show u
[06:23] <robozi> 5 more minutes
[06:24] <Bashing-om> robozi: k .
[06:30] <robozi> Bashing-om https://youtu.be/SNm4JNo5-gs
[06:31] <Bashing-om> robozi: looking .
[06:33] <Bashing-om> !recovery | robozi
[06:34] <robozi> Bashing-om u going to sleep now?
[06:34] <robozi> Yeah.
[06:35] <robozi> I have choosen rwcovery and i got into ubuntu
[06:35] <robozi> Let me try one more time
[06:36] <Bashing-om> robozi: I must as my eyes are crossing and brain is fuzzy - fingers are not cooperating .
[06:37] <robozi> Bashing-om at the recovery i must click on c for command line?
[06:38] <Bashing-om> robozi: no . command line is another exercise .
[06:41] <robozi> Bashing-om. What i have to choose in the new window?
[06:42] <Bashing-om> robozi: can you activate the "root" option ?
[06:42] <robozi> Root- drop to root shell prompt
[06:42] <robozi> This option?
[06:44] <Bashing-om> robozi: yes :)
[06:44] <robozi> What i write there?
[06:45] <Bashing-om> robozi: Nothing at this tome . we jist want to know that you have access to the syem - and that the system responds .
[06:46] <Bashing-om> robozi: to tired to type or think .. done .
[06:46] <robozi> Ok. Thankbyou anyway
[07:36] <m3rlin> Hi! I have problem when I want to install pspp via apt-get install. I got this messages: E: Package 'pspp' has no installation candidate. I'm using ubuntu 17.10 64-bit
[07:37] <m3rlin> can anyone help me? Thanks
[07:37] <ulysses_> Hello, Merlin, loved what you did in Camelot
[07:37] <ulysses_> What ppa are you using to get the package?
[07:38] <ulysses_> If using the default, try looking into a ppa directly from the dev and then trying
[07:38] <m3rlin> I'm not using ppa, just official repository
[07:38] <ulysses_> There could be a missing package that's been taken out of the official repo
[07:39] <m3rlin> yep, should I build from source using buildep?
[07:40] <ulysses_> Wouldn't hurt to try
[07:41] <ulysses_> I think I had this same issue actually and my solution was in the alternate PPA, but I don't remember what or where, it's been a while and I don't play too many PSP games
[07:42] <ulysses_> But! I wish you luck brave wizard
[07:42] <m3rlin> is safe to manually download and dependecy packages from repo?
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> m3rlin: all packages in apt-cache you can safely download for your system
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> m3rlin: but better then random install things, lookup what you need first?
[07:46] <m3rlin> lotuspsychje, ah right... just pspp packages and many dependency
[07:47] <m3rlin> lotuspsychje, I don't see pspp packages with apt-cache search pspp command. btw I disable deb-src
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> m3rlin: how about you tell us what you really want to do? end goal?
[07:48] <m3rlin> lotuspsychje, just download pspp packages and for resolving dependency with apt-get -f install. I hope it works
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> m3rlin: did you install external ppa's of any kind?
[07:49] <m3rlin> lotuspsychje, no. I'm not install ppa, just official repo
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> m3rlin: worked?
[08:10] <m3rlin> lotuspsychje, yes pspp and dependency it works
[08:10] <m3rlin> I just download from here pspp packages http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/pspp/ and dependency I resolving with apt-get -f install
[08:11] <m3rlin> It's strange
[08:11] <m3rlin> pspp packages doesn't came up apt-cache search pspp
[08:12] <ducasse> m3rlin: seems that package was removed from 17.10
[08:13] <m3rlin> ducasse, like squirrelmail packages too removed from 17.10
[08:15] <ducasse> squirrelmail was removed after 16.04
[08:16] <Crashbit> Anyone with Artful have problems with nvidia gtx-1070? With nvidia drivers have random freezes without logs and with nouveau, sometimes when start laptop I have graphics performance when cursor pass throught the login items
[08:16] <Crashbit> performance problems*
[08:18] <m3rlin> Crashbit, try this http://linuxbsdos.com/2017/06/11/how-to-install-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-drivers-on-ubuntu-16-10-17-04/
[08:21] <Crashbit> m3rlin: ok, thx
[08:22] <ducasse> Crashbit: first, which ubuntu version is this?
[08:23] <rorymckinley> Anybody seen this before? 16.04 box - /bin/sh symlinks to /bin/bash but when I execute a shell script using sh I get a syntax error but no syntax error using bash. sh --version and bash --version give identical results. dash has been disabled.
[08:24] <Crashbit> ducasse: artful
[08:24] <Crashbit> ducasse: I try with artful and the last official repository driver
[08:25] <Crashbit> ducasse: and artful with last nouveau ubuntu repository driver
[08:26] <hateball> Crashbit: I've no issues with the same setup (I use KDE Plasma and not GNOME tho)
[08:26] <Crashbit> I'm using gnome shell. I'm afraid it's a hardware problem with my card
[08:27] <hateball> Crashbit: And I usually run the latest beta from PPA, but havent had any troubles with the versions in-distro either
[08:27] <Crashbit> hateball: my gpu it's a mobile gtx-1070
[08:27] <hateball> Crashbit: simple enough to test, by installing another DE, perhaps even one without compositing
[08:28] <hateball> Crashbit: Ah, well I am using desktop
[08:28] <Crashbit> crashbit@crashbit-GT62VR-6RE:~$ lspci | grep -i vga
[08:28] <Crashbit> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GP104M [GeForce GTX 1070 Mobile] (rev a1)
[08:29] <Crashbit> can the composite be the problem?
[08:31] <m3rlin> Crashbit, maybe it can be
[09:01] <ylwghst> Crashbit: nouveau hasn't good performance at all but works much better on wayland i recommend you use 17.10 on wayland in case you like gnome
[09:03] <ylwghst> it's sometimes hard to live with nvidia there were and always will be problems... i currently use nouveau.. has very poor performance but enough for web developemt, office work, coding etc.
[09:03] <hateball> if you intend to do any amount of gaming then nouveau (and wayland) wont cut it
[09:04] <ylwghst> yes definitely...
[09:14] <genewitch> how do i completely disable ipv6? as in my NIC doesn't even know what it is or get an address?
[09:14] <genewitch> i did the "three lines in /etc/sysctl.conf" but i still get an ipV6 IP, and i have apps that still bind to it
[10:03] <Lavinho> good morning
[10:20] <charolastra> hi, got an issue with ntpd on nearly all my servers. after some time the service is shown as still beeing active but the process isn't running
[10:29] <Simooon> does anyone know why there is no possibility in the settings for turning mouse acceleration off? I know it can be done though editing files, but why is this not an option for in the settings?
[10:30] <MacroMan> I'm trying to write a sed command to replace part of an access log string, but I'm stuck after trying what I thought would work: https://paste.ngx.cc/5a9ef5fb6102606e
[10:30] <MacroMan> Can anyone help with my sed command please?
[10:44] <MacroMan> I posted too soon. I removed the ? from my sed command and it functions as expected.
[10:49] <akik> MacroMan: i was just going to reply that adding -r would've removed it too
[10:50] <MacroMan> Ah I see. ? is extended regex
[10:50] <MacroMan> Thanks
[11:07] <rh10> guys. best program to record audio stream? online radio
[11:10] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:12] <tsmaster> rh10, osmoma audio-recorder
[11:12] <rh10> tsmaster, got it thanks
[11:39] <intern1t-error> clear
[11:40] <mbi> intern1t-error: wrong window? ;)
[11:40] <intern1t-error> nope just forgot the /
[11:43] <intern1t-error> wat u guys up to
[11:47] <pizzaburger> Hi! Executing 'sudo apt-get install gnupg-curl' gives 'E: Unable to locate package gnupg-curl'. Should I just install the package manually?
[11:49] <Simooon> pizzaburger, can you find the package of that name if you search for it?
[11:49] <Simooon> in the repos
[11:49] <ducasse> pizzaburger: which ubuntu version?
[11:52] <intern1t-error> i need something to do
[11:52] <intern1t-error> to study something useful
[11:52] <TJ-> !info libgnupg-perl | pizzaburger
[11:52] <pizzaburger> Simooon: i found it in debian package site
[11:53] <pizzaburger> ducasse: Ubuntu 17.10
[11:53] <Simooon> pizzaburger, try to run "apt search gnupg-curl" to make sure it is in your repo under the same name
[11:54] <Simooon> pizzaburger, it is in mine, but I'm on 16.04 so perhaps it changed name since?!
[11:54] <pizzaburger> Sorting .... done, full text search ... done
[11:54] <tuskkk___> how do I connect my ubunutu laptop with a mac on high sierra to transfer some files? or is there is a better approach?
[11:55] <tuskkk___> is there a better approach*
[11:56] <Simooon> pizzaburger, sounds like it is not there then, perhaps it has changed name or is not used anymore?
[11:57] <Simooon> pizzaburger, I don't actually know what it is, but try to find out whether it has changed the package name.
[11:57] <ducasse> pizzaburger: that package does not exist with that name in releases after yakkety
[11:57] <ducasse> pizzaburger: try the package TJ- pointed you to
[11:59] <pizzaburger> Alright, seems to work fine, thanks TJ-, Simooon, ducasse!
[12:01] <ducasse> tuskkk___: if just a few files, use scp. if a few more, sshfs. more than that, samba or nfs
[12:06] <robozi> Bashing-om, are u on?
[12:15] <robozi> Bashing-om are u on?
[12:16] <robozi> Or smb else can help me?
[12:16] <ducasse> robozi: he won't usually be here for several more hours
[12:16] <ducasse> robozi: what can we help with?
[12:17] <robozi> Last night he was trying to help me to recover my ubuntu
[12:19] <ducasse> recover how? what had happened to it?
[12:20] <robozi> Ducasse nomodeset problem
[12:21] <robozi> I have logged in in the virtual terminal from the unity gui
[12:21] <robozi> And after that he had to leave
[12:22] <bunnypuncher> what do you mean by nomodeset problem?
[12:23] <ducasse> robozi: so, if you're messing with nomodeset i'm guessing you had graphics problems? and now you want to add nomodeset flag or you want to remove it?
[12:23] <bunnypuncher> you want to change it where you have nomodeset
[12:24] <robozi> When i choose the ubuntu OS i have to edit the grub to include the word nomodeset otherwise i get a black scree after ubuntu logo
[12:24] <bunnypuncher> so you want to make it permenant
[12:24] <bunnypuncher> we can help you with that
[12:24] <ducasse> robozi: what kind of gpu do you have?
[12:25] <thyriaen> i am running 16.04. on my x1 carbon - and since today i am experiencing screen flicker - T_T what can i do ?
[12:26] <robozi> Ducasse, i have already addet it and i can login till the the ubuntu login s8creen. But after i insert my credentials the interface refreshes. See here: https://youtu.be/SNm4JNo5-gs
[12:26] <robozi> I have the gtx 870
[12:27] <bunnypuncher> thyriaen: so you just accept screen flicker?
[12:28] <bunnypuncher> and nomodeset makes it where you can login?
[12:28] <thyriaen> bunnypuncher, i don't know what i mean ? :p
[12:29] <robozi> Bunnypuncher, yes
[12:30] <bunnypuncher> well it is easy enough to make nomodeset permeant edit /etc/default/grub.conf and rerun update-grub
[12:31] <bunnypuncher> but the fact you need that means video driver issues
[12:31] <bunnypuncher> have tried nvidia driver?
[12:32] <robozi> Ok. But i dont kbow how to install it from the virtual terminal
[12:32] <bunnypuncher> they have command line tool you run and it installs the drivers
[12:33] <bunnypuncher> https://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/111596
[12:33] <BluesKaj> robozi,  did you drop to a VT/TTY login and install dkms and the nvidia-381 driver?
[12:35] <Whooa21> Hey, quick question. I just dist-upgraded my 16.04 installation and compiz is constantly segfaulting and trying to restart. Is there a way to prevent compiz from constantly restarting so that I can try and debug this?
[12:38] <bunnypuncher> you can try this:   unity-tweak-tool --reset-unity
[12:39] <bunnypuncher> I don't use that tool however
[12:39] <bunnypuncher> that might reset all of unity
[12:39] <BluesKaj> robozi, virtual terminal or VT use ctl+alt+F1-F6, login, then sudo apt install dkms nvidia-381, then reboot
[12:39] <bunnypuncher> do you have bunch of stuff configured
[12:40] <bunnypuncher> other option:   rm -rf .compiz*
[12:41] <BluesKaj> robozi, this at the login page btw
[12:41] <Whooa21> I'd rather try and fix my current setup than try and reconfigure unity and all the compiz plugins I use, thanks though.
[12:42] <robozi> Whooa21. So in the virtual menu i have to run that command?
[12:42] <Whooa21> ...wrong person :p
[12:43] <Whooa21> yeah sorry got confused
[12:43] <BluesKaj> robozi, yes
[12:44] <bunnypuncher> Whooa21 totally understand
[12:45] <bunnypuncher> this may do the trick to disable the desktop effects
[12:45] <bunnypuncher> gconftool-2 --toggle /apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager
[12:46] <bunnypuncher> that tool can toogle many many settings for the desktop
[12:48] <bunnypuncher> you can turn them back on after you debug it
[12:58] <ozette> can i somehow 'log out' and only use a basic shell, and not display any compiz and windows?
[12:59] <ozette> can i somehow 'log out' and only use a basic shell, and not display any compiz and windows?
[12:59] <ozette> stuff is way too heavy for the small virtual machine i'm running
[13:00] <hateball> ozette: well you can stop X/Wayland/GDM and sit at a tty
[13:01] <hateball> ozette: and if you don't need a GUI at all you might as well have gone with ubuntu-server
[13:03] <acresearch> people, how do i burn a dvd in ubuntu 17.10? the forums say there should be a "create CD/DVD option but there isn't" anyone can help me please?
[13:05] <ozette> hateball: why ubuntu server?
[13:05] <ozette> just because it comes without gui?
[13:05] <robozi> Blueskaj, i have run that command and i got : unable to locate pqckage nvidia-381
[13:06] <robozi> But i am connected to the internet via wire
[13:07] <tomreyn> ozette: i guess so. this seems like a good idea if you're low on resources,
[13:07] <ozette> not sure what ubuntu-server comes with, but I just want to cross compile some software
[13:07] <hateball> ozette: has a different kernel as well, geared towards running server duty. nothing stopping you from simply switching runlevels etc on the desktop install
[13:07] <tomreyn> ozette: so you don't need a gui, no need for X, just what ubuntu-server provides
[13:07] <hateball> and you can switch to the server kernel as well
[13:07] <ozette> hmm
[13:07] <hateball> just seems a hassle compared to installing what you need in the first place
[13:08] <tomreyn> hateball: i think the kernel is the same really
[13:08] <hateball> ozette: if this is 17.10 I think that comes with nvidia-384
[13:08] <hateball> ozette: oopes, I mean robozi ^
[13:08] <akik> ozette: if it's a systemd system: sudo systemctl isolate multi-user.target; sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target
[13:08] <tomreyn> hateball: actually i'm quite sure.
[13:09] <ozette> akik: this will bring me back to basic?
[13:09] <akik> ozette: it'll stop the graphical ui
[13:09] <hateball> robozi: you can type nvidia-38 and then press tab to have the shell autocomplete whatever package it is you have available
[13:09] <ozette> okay awesome, will try
[13:09] <hateball> !tab | robozi
[13:09] <tomreyn> installing ubuntu-server and purging ubuntu-desktop may also help
[13:09] <BluesKaj> robozi, which ubuntu version are you on?
[13:10] <robozi> Ubuntu 14.04 lts
[13:10] <robozi> And the tab does not work
[13:10] <hateball> robozi: 14.04 has an older driver, probably something like nvidia-367
[13:10] <robozi> And i ambusing irc from phone
[13:11] <hateball> robozi: at any rate you can also just run "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall" and it will fetch and install any restricted drivers needed
[13:11] <robozi> I need to install nvidia 367 or 367-dev?
[13:11] <hateball> robozi: not the dev package, that is for compiling things
[13:12] <hateball> robozi: I don't remember if 367 is new enough to support the chip you have, possibly you need to use nvidia PPA for a more recent driver
[13:14] <robozi> How dobi use ppa?
[13:15] <hateball> robozi: in case you need it: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt update && sudo apt install nvidia-387
[13:16] <acresearch> people, how do i burn a dvd in ubuntu 17.10? the forums say there should be a "create CD/DVD option but there isn't" anyone can help me please?
[13:16] <BluesKaj> the nvidia site recommends the 384 driver for gtx870m ...is that your gpu, robozi?
[13:17] <BluesKaj> linux driver
[13:17] <hateball> 384 is "LTS" driver
[13:17] <hateball> whereas 387 is "current"
[13:18] <BluesKaj> yeah, we're trying find the correct driver for his gpu, current or not
[13:19] <hateball> meaning that 387 will be superseded by something like nvidia-390 when that is released, and 384 will only get backported fixes
[13:19] <hateball> they'll both work
[13:19] <BluesKaj> robozi, try to install nvidia-384
[13:22] <robozi> Blueskaj, ok. Installed it. But in the unity gui after i enter my password i get the same problem
[13:22] <robozi> As i have showed u in the video
[13:22] <BluesKaj> you have to reboot robozi
[13:23] <acresearch> people i am trying to burn a DVD of documents as backup, it is not working in ubuntu 17.10 i keep getting an error saying "something went wrong ejecting disk"  i am using braserro can someone help me burn these DVD? is there is default setting in ubuntu?
[13:24] <robozi> Blueskaj, yah i have rebooted
[13:27] <BluesKaj> you can remove the nomodeset from grub if you added where  "quiet splash" was previously
[13:28] <BluesKaj> Go to the line starting with 'kernel'
[13:29] <ezra-s> acresearch: in my experience brasero fails 8 out of 10 times, no matter the year , if its just documents try commandline mkisofs + wodim or similar or try a better gui
[13:29] <acresearch> ezra-s: i can burn through the command line?
[13:29] <acresearch> ezra-s: can you tell me how to do it?
[13:30] <robozi> Blueskaj, tried it now and without modeset i get the blackscreen after ubuntu logo
[13:30] <ezra-s> acresearch: not right now, going for lunch, but do search about what I told you
[13:30] <hateball> robozi: if you run "lspci -k" from a tty, what module is listed as loaded for your GPU?
[13:32] <BluesKaj> yeah, wonder if he needs to blacklist nouveau
[13:35] <hateball> the packages should do that automatically, but lspci -k will tell what the situation is
[13:36] <BluesKaj> acresearch,  try this command: wodim -eject  -tao speed=0 dev=/dev/sr0 -v -data /my/directory/   my/directory  being the path to the files you want to copy
[13:36] <robozi> Blueskaj , Dww https://imgur.com/gallery/bJgDY
[13:37] <acresearch> I tried  growisofs -Z /dev/sr0 -r -J /path/to/files   but i get the following error: :-[ WRITE@LBA=220h failed with SK=3h/WRITE ERROR]: Input/output error
[13:37] <acresearch> BluesKaj: ok i will try it 1 moment
[13:38] <acresearch> BluesKaj: i got a long print out but basically saying Operation not permitted.    i used sudo
[13:42] <geirha> If you see the NOTES section in growisofs man-page, it specifically disallows running with sudo
[13:43] <acresearch> geirha: i ran it without sudo
[13:43] <robozi> Bluskaj, I'm live on Twitch, come hang out! http://www.twitch.tv/zdriod?sr=a
[13:44] <geirha> acresearch: and   ls -l /dev/sr0   says the device is owned by the cdrom group, right?   and running ''groups''  shows that your user is a member of the cdrom group?
[13:44] <acresearch> geirha: this is what i get brw-rw----+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 Dec 15 16:29 /dev/sr0
[13:46] <BluesKaj> robozi, think ypo ahve an optimus hybrid gpu system , try installing bumblee
[13:46] <BluesKaj> robozi, bumblebee
[13:46] <geirha> acresearch: right, so members of the cdrom groups should be allowed to write
[13:46] <geirha> *cdrom group
[13:46] <acresearch> geirha: excellent
[13:47] <acresearch> geirha: but i keep getting errors, what is the source of there errors?
[13:47] <geirha> have you checked that you are a member of the cdrom group yet?
[13:47] <acresearch> geirha:  i ran this command ls -l /dev/sr0
[13:47] <acresearch> how do i check?
[13:48] <geirha> ''groups''
[13:48] <geirha> lists the groups you are a member of
[13:48] <acresearch> geirha: acresearch adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[13:49] <geirha> ok, so you have write access. Then perhaps the cd/dvd you're trying to write to isn't empty..?
[13:49] <acresearch> geirha: so i think yes i am part of the cdrom group from this printout, right?
[13:50] <geirha> you are
[13:50] <acresearch> geirha: it is a new DVD+R 4.7GB
[13:51] <geirha> and your drive supports DVD+R?
[13:51] <acresearch> geirha: let me check  i have a 2011 mackbook pro
[13:51] <BluesKaj> hateball, I suspect robozi has an optimus hybrid gpu system, and I'm pretty sure that's the problem
[13:52] <BluesKaj> acresearch, sudo adduser yourusername cdrom
[13:52] <acresearch> geirha: from the apple forums yes my macbook supports DVD+R
[13:53] <robozi> Blueskaj, did not work Hhh https://imgur.com/gallery/ILkzK
[13:55] <geirha> acresearch: Not sure then. Are you sure there's no chance you coasted that disc by a previous failed attempt? Would have to see the full output to get some clue as to what is wrong.
[13:55] <BluesKaj> robozi, what didn't work? use pastebin for text not imgur
[13:55] <acresearch> geirha: i used 3 new DVDs  all failed
[13:55] <cremansor12> Hola! anyone good with troubleshooting GRUB? I cannot get Ubuntu to install for the life of me - Have documented my error here
[13:55] <cremansor12> https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/7jxyyj/ubuntu_wont_install_for_the_life_of_it_out_of/?st=jb7z7of5&sh=630e5b7c
[13:55] <geirha> robozi: bumblebee, you left out the m
[13:55] <acresearch> geirha: i'll paste the command and the error output   1 moment
[13:57] <acresearch> geirha: http://paste.debian.net/1000854/
[13:57] <BluesKaj> odd that url robozi posted didn't load at first...
[13:57] <cremansor12> guess ill wait my turn....
[13:58] <robozi> Blueskah, I am writing u from mobile and i the commands are being run in the pc that i ambtrying to fix. So pastebin wont work
[13:58] <neure> hi
[13:58] <cremansor12> damn robozi a hero
[13:58] <neure> i got logitech g pro keyboard, which is tenkeyless
[13:59] <neure> how do i change my keyboard to that?
[13:59] <BluesKaj> !tab | robozi
[14:00] <cremansor12> So, anyone good with understanding the GRUB loader?
[14:01] <hateball> robozi, BluesKaj bumblebee is deprecated
[14:01] <BluesKaj> cremansor12, is ubuntu the only linux OS on your pc ?
[14:01] <hateball> robozi: you can do this: sudo apt install nvidia-prime
[14:01] <geirha> acresearch: does the dvd+r disk support the 8x speed growisofs is attempting?
[14:01] <cremansor12> Yes, i had Windows 10 installed on it before but attempted to remove it and install Ubuntu
[14:01] <BluesKaj> hateball, it was resurrected a yr or 2 ago
[14:01] <hateball> robozi: then you tell your system to use nvidia in X with: sudo prime-select nvidia
[14:01] <hateball> robozi: and then things should "just work"
[14:01] <hateball> BluesKaj: oh
[14:01] <cremansor12> BluesKaj: https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/7jxyyj/ubuntu_wont_install_for_the_life_of_it_out_of/?st=jb7z7of5&sh=630e5b7c
[14:02] <cremansor12> this is my detailed post
[14:02] <neure> several of my keys are not working :(
[14:02] <hateball> BluesKaj, robozi at any rate nvidia-prime should work properly
[14:03] <acresearch> geirha: supports 16x speed
[14:03] <BluesKaj> cremansor12, post urls containing other urls isn't good practice if you need help. just tell us what's happening or not happening
[14:03] <cremansor12> That reddit post contained everything but here we go
[14:04] <cremansor12> Im trying to intall Ubuntu 16.04 LTS and its not working, its failing on the GRUB installer part
[14:04] <BluesKaj> hateball, yes nvidia-prime should be installed bt default afaik
[14:04] <cremansor12> The Reddit thread contains a screenshot of the error
[14:04] <monkwitdafunk> hello, how can i copy a dvd and still maintain its integrity check?
[14:04] <cremansor12> I tried BootRepair but it failed to work for me. The Reddit thread contains the logs of before & after repair
[14:05] <cremansor12> BluesKaj
[14:05] <monkwitdafunk> cremansor12: have you tried sanitizing your disk before installing?
[14:05] <cremansor12> i do not think so, I did just format it via the Disks program
[14:06] <cremansor12> but how would i sanitize it?
[14:06] <monkwitdafunk> i make it a standard practise to wipe before installing
[14:06] <monkwitdafunk> you can use daricks boot and nuke, killdisk or badblocks
[14:06] <cremansor12> is it a command line?
[14:07] <monkwitdafunk> i like badblocks, you get it in knoppix
[14:07] <cremansor12> this guide would be good?
[14:07] <cremansor12> http://tech.chandrahasa.com/2013/06/09/ubuntu-check-disk-for-bad-blocks-and-errors/
[14:07] <monkwitdafunk> badblocks is shell scripting. either way, you would use a self contained operating system
[14:08] <monkwitdafunk> -w option
[14:08] <monkwitdafunk> you just have to figure out the correct syntax
[14:08] <robozi> Hatebal
[14:08] <robozi> Blueskaj
[14:09] <monkwitdafunk> just download dban.org
[14:09] <robozi> Did what u said and it disnt work
[14:09] <geirha> acresearch: Hm. I don't know then. Sounds like it might be a bug with the driver or growisofs
[14:09] <cremansor12> This is what I get from Disks: https://i.imgur.com/73p8fIp.png
[14:09] <cremansor12> so basically i should type "sudo badblocks -v /dev/sdb1" ?
[14:09] <acresearch> geirha: any idea what is wrong?
[14:10] <monkwitdafunk> badblocks -w /dev/sdb1
[14:10] <cremansor12> kk
[14:11] <cremansor12> says now it is checking for bad blocks
[14:11] <cremansor12> guess i have to wait
[14:11] <monkwitdafunk> it should work even if you have a RAID card. dban doesnt work with RAID card. killdisk works w/ RAID
[14:11] <cremansor12> how long is the process usually
[14:12] <monkwitdafunk> its just one pass. read the man pages. it permanently erases data
[14:12] <acresearch> geirha:  sorry ubuntu randly cuts off the wifi and i have to restart it.    what could be the problem with burining the DVD?
[14:12] <geirha> acresearch: if it is a driver bug or growisofs bug, that's way out of my league
[14:12] <monkwitdafunk> i like k3b for burning iso
[14:13] <akik> badblocks -w does 4 passes
[14:13] <monkwitdafunk> i got a question, how can i access my androids memory on ubuntu?
[14:14] <acresearch> geirha: this is too much, i can't use ubuntu for anything anymore, not even burn a DVD, i will have to migrate to manjaro i am sorry to say, thanks for your time
[14:14] <monkwitdafunk> does it really do 4 passes?
[14:14] <BluesKaj> robozi, try installing nvidia-prime, it should be installed but it's worth a try
[14:15] <monkwitdafunk> im getting ready to install nvidia graphics eh. i have to look through my notes on the runlevel
[14:16] <monkwitdafunk> i cut my dsl connection. i just have lte wireless
[14:16] <monkwitdafunk> idk how to access my androids memory. i did it before
[14:16] <monkwitdafunk> weird
[14:17] <robozi> Blueskaj, Fdhg https://imgur.com/gallery/c5fyo
[14:18] <monkwitdafunk> nvidia certified drivers is the way to go
[14:18] <monkwitdafunk> the repository makes it easy however
[14:19] <BluesKaj> itro that's you bumblebee install and it's spelled incorrectly, anyway I'm not sure it will work
[14:19] <BluesKaj> robozi,^
[14:20] <marcisb> How i can uninstall some software from linux like gitlab?
[14:21] <c2tarun> marcisb: how did you install it?
[14:21] <robozi> Yeah in the bumblebee i corrwcted the command
[14:21] <monkwitdafunk> did you install from repository
[14:21] <c2tarun> marcisb: BTW, try apt-get remove --purge gitlab
[14:21] <robozi> And the install went ok
[14:22] <monkwitdafunk> i got a question... if i compile from source, i would still have to uninstall the older version if i want to upgrade to a newer version of the program right?
[14:23] <BluesKaj> robozi, ok here's the rest of it, follow these instructions after the bumblebee part, https://askubuntu.com/questions/452556/how-to-set-up-nvidia-optimus-bumblebee-in-14-04
[14:26] <monkwitdafunk> hey. i got a book on LXC eh. ubuntu supports LXC. if i cant run LXC, im going to migrate to one of the BSD distros
[14:26] <marcisb> Package 'gitlab' is not installed, so not removed
[14:26] <marcisb> How i can list all packages
[14:27] <marcisb> ?
[14:27] <monkwitdafunk> if you use a desktop enviroment, i would try synaptic. im not sure if thats the best answer
[14:28] <monkwitdafunk> command line is king right
[14:29] <monkwitdafunk> okay. bye #ubuntu. when im back, i should have read some of the LXC book i got
[14:35] <pavlos> monkwitdafunk: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/lxc.html
[14:45] <billygoat> when looking at memory usage, why does VIRT differ from RES in zero swap is used? It was my understanding that RES was all memory usage for a process in ram, and VIRT included things like swap. So if I currently have zero swapped used shouldn't the two be the same?
[14:48] <marcisb> Which is best pdf reader in ubuntu?
[14:51] <bunnypuncher> billygoat linux shares code between processes
[14:51] <bunnypuncher> also it compresses pages as needed
[14:52] <bunnypuncher> allocation also happens on an as needed basis based on 1 of 6 algorithms
[14:53] <bunnypuncher> which would account for the difference (i maybe forget something also)
[14:55] <TrentP> odd that /usr/bin/lxcfs was pegging the cpu on my $5 DO droplet, with a really high load avg.....restarting the three LXD containers seemed to solve the problem though
[14:59] <arora> anyone plays cut the rope here, how do you open a new box?
[15:00] <marcisb> How i can configure to see password length when type in sudo in terminal?
[15:03] <alkisg> marcisb: https://www.howtogeek.com/194010/how-to-make-password-asterisks-visible-in-the-terminal-window-in-linux/
[15:39] <happyhippo> the emojis on firefox are black and white, why's that ?
[15:39] <happyhippo> Ubuntu 16.04 Firefox 57
[15:40] <happyhippo> exactly this problem https://askubuntu.com/questions/808946/emojione-color-font-doesnt-replace-black-and-white-emoji-font-in-firefox-or-chr
[15:40] <happyhippo> but the provided solution there doesn't work anymore
[15:43] <TaZeR> probably wanna remove the ubuntu customizations from firefox if there installed
[15:44] <happyhippo> nevermind installing the .deb worked for some reason
[15:45] <happyhippo> I don't like the font, but at least I have emojis now
[15:46] <happyhippo> what's the best font with FF ?
[15:52] <jackdripper> i had copied my external HDD to my laptop..after few days i copied my mobile phone also..thereafter i downloaded some files from internet...All have some same files...like mypic.jpg...how to trace and delete duplicate
[15:54] <ducasse> jackdripper: try 'fdupes'
[15:57] <jackdripper> ok i try that and report back...thanks
[15:57] <slimetrap> anyone have experience with redshift breaking in ubuntu 17
[15:57] <lordcirth_work> slimetrap, I use redshift.  Breaking how?
[16:06] <leftyfb> slimetrap: which ubuntu 17?
[16:55] <rek> hi why in ubuntu 16.04  the network interface name changes if i reboot the system then what i wrote in /etc/network/interfaces is wrong.... or sometimes it happens... i reboot the machine and i can't ping anything  in ifconfig i see my interface is up and configure correctly... and for example if i try to edit /etc/network/interfaces and i issue a ntworking restart the old ip stay there and doesn't change....
[17:11] <bunnypuncher> Ubuntu uses NetworkManager you should not edit interfaces directly
[17:11] <rek> bunnypuncher interfaces file is god... nm is something else added... also i'm not running gnome
[17:12] <rek> nm-applet is not running
[17:13] <bunnypuncher> ok just try typing:   nmcli g
[17:15] <rek> what?
[17:16] <bunnypuncher> nmcli is the network manager commandline
[17:17] <bunnypuncher> if your not using you won't have the command or won't give info
[17:18] <bunnypuncher> I'm not talking about the applet I'm talking about the system service
[17:18] <rek> bunnypuncher, i see in my 14.04 returning eth0 not managed and i'm using it... networkfuncionality is disabled ifact i set my ip manually here but there i don't even have gnome and nm-applet running..but it's too late since i cannot access the machine remotely now...
[17:22] <bunnypuncher> did you disable the network-manager service ?  if so then interfaces might be god like you said
[17:24] <rek> i don't think network-manager service is running if you don't use gnome
[17:24] <rek> is this right?
[17:24] <bunnypuncher> no it is part of systemd
[17:24] <bunnypuncher> nothing to do with what ever DM you use in X
[17:24] <BluesKaj> nm is default afaik
[17:24] <TJ-> bunnypuncher: NM isn't part of systemd, but it is a system service
[17:25] <bunnypuncher> right of course managed by systemd
[17:26] <TJ-> rek:  how does the network interface name change? give us an example? Because in 16.04 I think you've hit the "predictable  device naming" change
[17:27] <BluesKaj> like eth0becoans enpos4 or some such
[17:27] <rek> what do you mean by predictable device naming?  ... for example enps0 to enps1 then i edit it again to have network connection then i reboot and it was again enps0 for example
[17:27] <BluesKaj> enps0  is the new eth0
[17:28] <TJ-> rek: That's P.D.N. - it describes where the interface is in the hardware
[17:28] <BluesKaj> rek,^
[17:29] <TJ-> rek: so if it's changing from enpXsY to enpXsY that suggests the a multi-interface device, or a virtual machine. Is this in a virtual machine or on bare hardware?
[17:29] <TJ-> oops, enpXsY to enpYsZ :)
[17:30] <rek> in another installation i had 2 nic...and switching on again the server i saw my network interface was up and configured but i wasn't able to ping... i  moved the cat5 cable  plugging it into the other nic and i got the connection...then i experienced a powerloss i had nomore time so i let the server reboot...and it was up and everything but i'm pretty sure it happened the same damn thing...
[17:30] <rek> bare hardware TJ-
[17:31] <bunnypuncher> the proper way to change this is nmcli just read the man page if you don't believe me
[17:31] <rek> sorry P.D.N.  ? let me look it up...
[17:32] <TJ-> rek: OK, so in the normal course of events, when a PCI network adapter is found it will be named  enpX (where X is the PCI bus ID), and each port on the device will be numbered starting s0, s1, s2, etc, so you end up with an interface named enpXs0, enpXs1 etc.
[17:34] <rek> i only had 1 interface... in the server i have 2-3 interfaces
[17:34] <TJ-> rek: if different interfaces are getting the same s0 on different boots then something in the kernel driver is mis-reporting the hardware location of the port. The P.D.N. (Predictable Device Naming) is generated from that info sent from the kernel to udev.
[17:35] <TJ-> rek: this won't help solve the apparent issue but it's the doc on naming: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[17:36] <TJ-> rek:  the summary is, this is designed to *prevent* names changing across reboots, so something weird is going on if you've a system having this happen
[17:37] <rek> very interesting...also i may use nmcli as bunnypuncher told me... to not let nm control my interface
[17:37] <TJ-> rek: by default NM will NOT manage an interface it finds in /etc/network/interfaces
[17:38] <Zythyr> Question about encryption. I want to have a personal home websever. My conern is situation where the servere/HDD gets stolen by a theif. I can resolve this by using Encrypted Home in Ubuntu. But the issue is that if I remote reboot PC the I would have to physically login to server or else the websever or other compontents won't start. Is there an alternate approach to having encrytion without
[17:38] <Zythyr> having to physcially login to allow the websever to start?
[17:38] <rek> ah as i was expecting...so something strange is going on
[17:38] <TJ-> rek: it depends on /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf having a "[ifupdown]" section with "managed=false"
[17:39] <rek> what if that is present on the config?
[17:40] <TJ-> Zythyr: use Full Disk Encryption instead, to encrypt a block device (which could be a file mounted using loopdev), then it only needs to be fed the passphrase at start-up which can be done using an ssh script or similar
[17:41] <TJ-> rek: if that is present NM will NOT manage interfaces defined in /etc/network/interfaces
[17:42] <rek> good to know it thanks they much... and you confirm even if i'm not launching gnome... networkmanager is alive...
[17:43] <rek> i know if you don't use nm-applet it's like you're not managing your interfaces...for example in fluxbox like me
[17:43] <TJ-> rek: it is a system service. nm-applet/nmcli/nmtui are just user clients that connect to the NM service control socket
[17:43] <rek> something strenage is happening yes... but it's not the first time... and not the first installation...
[17:43] <TJ-> rek: the installation of nm-applet has no bearing on NM service itself
[17:44] <rek> running nm-applet you can manage your interfaces...
[17:45] <bunnypuncher> TJ- are you sure NM doesn't manage interface if the are just in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[17:45] <TJ-> rek:  yes, but you can also do that without a GUI using nmtui or nmcli
[17:46] <TJ-> bunnypuncher: Yes, when "managed=false"
[17:46] <rek> TJ-, do you know any service a default 16.04 lts installation is running in order to ...wait.. i can't even my remote server probably it doesn't even have an ip....i must go there...
[17:46] <Zythyr> TJ- Thanks, let me read up on full disk encryption
[17:46] <bunnypuncher> ah ok I knew there was a required setting
[17:47] <TJ-> See "man NetworkManager.conf" and the "ifupdown" section
[17:47] <TJ-> Zythyr: you'd use cryptsetup to create a LUKS-based dm-crypt block device
[17:48] <bunnypuncher> nmcli isn't too bad once you know about it
[17:48] <Zythyr> ok i'll look into that also. sorry i just need to read move to understand eveyrthing
[17:49] <TJ-> Zythyr: just realise that although it's called "Full Disk" it really should be correctly named "Block Device" encryption, since the entire physical 'disk' does not need to be encrypted
[17:50] <rek> so sad
[17:51] <Zythyr> okay
[17:51] <TJ-> rek: so what is the situation now? You're remote from the server and you have lost connectivity?
[17:53] <rek> yes i'l go there next week... i was trying to do something on the local network but....i don't see my ip i set on interfaces..... on the local network
[17:55] <nunnsby> Hey all, any way to start budgie-desktop with admin permissions? Running budgie-desktop on server via xrdp. But when it starts, the user can't update any settings that require admin priviledges. Any idea?
[17:56] <TJ-> rek: it sounds more likely the config is fine but when you switched the port the patch lead is plugged into it broke it
[18:15] <rek> TJ-, broke what?
[18:15] <TJ-> rek: broke the connection, apparently :)
[18:34] <Thedarkb> I want to turn up my mouse sensitivity higher than the maximum.
[18:34] <Thedarkb> My trackpoint is giving me carpal tunnel.
[18:42] <rek> TJ-, when i changed hole i got connection then i had a powerloss and booted again
[18:44] <TJ-> rek: you'll have to let us know what the solution turns out to be.
[18:45] <rek> i know
[18:45] <rek> just sad i can't be there
[18:49] <rek> TJ-, imagine if i found it booted and the interface is up but i cannot just ping and stuff like that -.-
[18:50] <jer> Thedarkb, how about this novel idea... every hour or so, take a 5 minute to 15 minute break where you move your wirsts, elbows, and shoulders a bit for a couple minutes
[18:50] <TJ-> rek:  I can imagine lots of things :) I prefer having facts and evidence though
[18:50] <rek> me too
[18:50] <Thedarkb> I do.
[18:50] <jer> Thedarkb, seriously, being smart about how much contiguous time you spend in front of a keyboard/mouse/trackpad is important
[18:50] <Thedarkb> It's a TrackPoint and I have to exert a fair bit of force to get it to move quickly.
[18:51] <Thedarkb> I just want to turn up the acceleration.
[18:53] <pkhaxorz> hey
[18:53] <pkhaxorz> so I'm using gnome 3
[18:53] <pkhaxorz> and my icon theme reset to default
[18:53] <pkhaxorz> even though gnometweak still says I'm using the one that I had set
[18:56] <Thedarkb> So can anyone tell me how to turn up the sensitivity and not give me advice about my usage habits.
[18:58] <Thedarkb> To the OS it looks like a ps/2 mouse.
[18:59] <ash_work> any recommendations for a chat client? Chatzilla doesn't work with the new version of Firefox
[18:59] <TJ-> rek: So you don't have network KVM, drac, ilo, ipmi or whatever?
[19:03] <leftyfb> ash_work: apt-cache search irc |grep client
[19:04] <leftyfb> ash_work: or also apt-cache search "chat client"
[19:08] <oerheks> Thedarkb, with xinput/xprob ? https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/90572/how-can-i-set-mouse-sensitivity-not-just-mouse-acceleration
[19:09] <Thedarkb> It doesn't seem to have an effect.
[19:09] <oerheks> or write a xorg.conf, the old way
[19:09] <Thedarkb> Can I just alter the one that's already there?
[19:12] <oerheks> Thedarkb, i cannot find such config file, this page maybe a help too http://www.pontikis.net/blog/fix-mouse-sensitivity-ubuntu
[19:12] <Thedarkb> thanks
[19:12] <oerheks> maybe there is, someone else knows that answer?
[19:15] <Levin^> hi there
[19:15] <Levin^> I'm accessing my website via SFTP
[19:15] <Levin^> I mean, SSH
[19:15] <Levin^> but I need to edit what www-data can do on FTP
[19:16] <Levin^> it's because that user can do much, like move folders inside
[19:16] <Levin^> other folders
[19:16] <Levin^> I mean, cannot do much
[19:16] <Levin^> how do I do that?
[19:17] <oerheks> Levin^, does your ssh user have sufficient rights to do so? ssh as root is disabled by default, iirc
[19:17] <Levin^> you mean www-data? it doesn't look like, and I don't know how to grant such permission
[19:18] <Levin^> the user I use to log in hav sudo access
[19:25] <Bashing-om> robozi: Back :) .. What now is the status ?
[19:26] <oerheks> Levin^, edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config serverside, and set PermitRootLogin yes
[19:27] <robozi> Bashing-om thanks for coming. All day have tried to solve the issue
[19:27] <robozi> No success yet
[19:27] <robozi> But i managed to login in the virtual terminal
[19:28] <robozi> I was using the wrong username
[19:28] <Levin^> oerheks: just that?
[19:28] <Bashing-om> robozi: And .. what results when attempting to activate the recovery console from the grub boot menu ?
[19:29] <oerheks> Levin^, and restart the ssh service after that, yes
[19:29] <robozi> No success
[19:29] <ppf> anyone ever set up a docking station?
[19:29] <robozi> The problem persists
[19:30] <ppf> how do i detect docking/undocking events?
[19:31] <Bashing-om> robozi: Help me to help you . " the problem persists" tells me nothing of what is . what results in recovery ?
[19:31] <cremansor12> Hey, I ran badblocks -w /dev/sdb1 and its running for the last 4-5 hours
[19:31] <cremansor12> I stopped it and this was the commandline: https://pastebin.com/raw/XV6UBHs2
[19:32] <cremansor12> Is it time to change the hard drive?
[19:32] <robozi> Bashing-om i have tried to install the nvidia driver and the bumblebee
[19:32] <cremansor12> anyone know?
[19:32] <robozi> Ibthink thahlt everything went ok
[19:33] <robozi> But i contonue not to be able to login in ubuntu
[19:33] <Bashing-om> robozi: that is fruitless as "you" do not have access to the desktop . once more I ask . what results in recovery ?
[19:33] <cremansor12> I guess no one knows?
[19:34] <robozi> https://youtu.be/SNm4JNo5-gs
[19:34] <robozi> That is the problem
[19:34] <robozi> But what is the recovery?
[19:34] <robozi> What i have to do there?
[19:40] <Bashing-om> robozi: IF and only IF you have access to the system via the recovery console we can continue on my thought process . Now what results when you activate the recovery console ?
[19:42] <robozi> Bashing-om, nothing special. It is like a terminal
[19:42] <robozi> Where i can run any command
[19:46] <Bashing-om> robozi: Now we can make a bit of progress ! .. ok at the 'root' terminal from recovery; what results with the command ; ' mount -o remount,rw / ' (Note there is no space after the comma.). If this is good, then we change your password and then maybe "you" can access your desktop .
[19:46] <tomreyn> also note that 4 character passwords are not safe against anything.
[19:48] <Bashing-om> tomreyn: +10 :)
[19:53] <robozi> Bashing-om, Vgyd https://imgur.com/gallery/wk1bU
[19:56] <Bashing-om> robozi: You have sooo confused me ! that is a normal terminal prompt -- do you have normal access to your sytem at terminal ?
[19:57] <robozi> Bashing-om. No. It is from the virtual terminal. From the unity login gui interface when i click ctrl+alt+f1
[20:01] <Bashing-om> robozi: THAT! is what i asked of you several hours in the past - that you advose that you can not get past the login screen . Run in this terminal ' sudo lshw -C display | nc termbin.com ' and pass back the resulting link . I do want to see this as text NOT as an image .
[20:02] <alkisg> nc termbin.com 9999
[20:02] <Bashing-om> alkisg: robozi ^^ . :)
[20:12] <robozi> Bashing-om, termbin.com/dq91
[20:16] <Bashing-om> robozi: Doing well . ok -bad " *-display UNCLAIMED >>  product: 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller " . begs the question, is the Intel graphic's set turned off in bios ?
[20:17] <robozi> Bashing-om, i dont think so. Never have done that in bios
[20:18] <ioria> robozi, secure boot enabled ?
[20:20] <robozi> ioria, i dont remember. Let me check
[20:21] <ioria> robozi, btw, secure boot should be relevant for nvidia, not for intel  :(
[20:21] <robozi> I have the uefi disabled
[20:21] <Bashing-om> robozi: K; This might get beyond my experience with Intel - but we will struggle on . Next is to see what us up with nvidia and the GPU manager . show me ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia* | nc termbin.com 9999 ; cat /var/log/gpu-manager | nc termbin.com 9999 ' . see where we go from here .
[20:21] <robozi> I think that is what u call with secure boot
[20:22] <ioria> robozi, not really
[20:22] <ioria> ioria, ^ Bashing-om
[20:24] <Bashing-om> ioria: Checked ( earlier) .. and booting bios rather then EFI - robozi : secure boot is relevant ! Make sure it is disabled .
[20:25] <ioria> robozi, what ubuntu version and what kernel ?
[20:30] <robozi> Termbin.com/871q
[20:31] <ioria> robozi, bumblebee?
[20:31] <alkisg> 3.2.1-93~trustyppa1 ? trusty?
[20:32] <ioria> robozi, ok, lets' purge it all
[20:32] <alkisg> I haven't read the chat, but for driver issues, do use a recent kernel :D
[20:32] <robozi> Ioria, yes. Tried today in my own and with the help from the others to solve my issue
[20:32] <ioria> robozi, what ubuntu version and what kernel ?
[20:33] <ioria> robozi,  cat /etc/issue ; uname -r
[20:34] <robozi> Ubuntu 14.04 lts kernel 3.16.0-17-generic
[20:34] <ioria> pleaseeeeeeeee
[20:34] <ioria> robozi, you can't use that
[20:34] <ioria> robozi, that's the utopic hwe
[20:35] <ioria> robozi, it's not supported anymore
[20:35] <ioria> robozi, why did you do that ?
[20:36] <robozi> Found some tutorials in the internet
[20:36] <ioria> no way
[20:36] <alkisg> I think at the 14.04 cycle, the hwe stack didn't automatically move to the next stack, so if he had installed 14.04.2, he'd have that...
[20:37] <alkisg> In 16.04 the plan changed and it automatically upgrades
[20:37] <ioria> no, rolling hwe on trusty
[20:38] <ioria> robozi, if you really want to stick with trusty, you need 1) upgrade with the xenial hwe 2) roll back to .3.13
[20:38] <robozi> How do i do that?
[20:39] <ioria> robozi, sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-core-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-xenial libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-xenial
[20:39] <robozi> I just want to solve my problem. No matter how it will be
[20:39] <alkisg> If it's rolling, wouldn't apt-get dist-upgrade do that?
[20:40] <ioria> alkisg, no rolling hwe on trusty  (without the coma)
[20:40] <Bashing-om> robozi: ioria: check/verify that we have operational head room to install additional kernels - ' df -h ' . ( one thing at a time, here )
[20:40] <alkisg> Haha, what I said then :D
[20:40] <ioria> lol
[20:41] <robozi> termbin.com/5fru
[20:41] <alkisg> We have an ancient greek saying about this, it would translate to something like "you'll go to war and return not die there", and they'd put the comma either before or after the "not" :D
[20:42] <ioria> robozi, may i ask you why trusty + utopic  ? the last kernel for that is .77
[20:42] <Bashing-om> robozi: We have the overhead to continue :)
[20:43] <robozi> As i said. I have tried some tutorials and that is why i have that
[20:43] <robozi> Ok. Lets do it
[20:43] <ioria> alkisg, Ήξεις αφήξεις ουκ εν τω πολέμω
[20:43] <alkisg> θνήξεις, exactly :D
[20:44] <ioria> alkisg, classic school :þ
[20:45] <ioria> robozi, in few words: you need to upgrade your distro
[20:45] <alkisg> It's what the oracle was telling the warriors. Nah, I mostly avoided those classes as much as I could :D
[20:45] <robozi> Ok. Lets do it
[20:45] <robozi> But how?
[20:45] <ioria> robozi, did you read what i posted you ?
[20:46] <ioria> robozi, 1) install xenial hwe 2)  why trusty in 2017 (almost 2018) ?
[20:46] <robozi> Ok. But hace my ssd suficient space for a new kernel?
[20:47] <robozi> Have*
[20:47] <ioria> robozi, i guess so, but it's not the most relevant question
[20:54] <robozi> ioria, termbin.xom/ckln
[20:55] <robozi> Sorry for the typo. Writing from the phone
[20:55] <ioria> got nothing
[20:56] <Bashing-om> robozi: ^^ give us the full URL - please .
[20:57] <robozi> Http://termbin.com/ckln
[20:59] <ppf> so, it looks like there is nothing specific happening when i attach the laptop into the docking station
[20:59] <ppf> except a new usb connection popping up
[21:00] <ppf> so it seems they implemented the docking via USB
[21:01] <ppf> so i can detect that through udev, but what then? the information kinda needs to go into my user's environment. can i send a dbus message from udev?
[21:03] <robozi> Bashing-om
[21:03] <robozi> ioria
[21:04] <Bashing-om> robozi: I see. awaiting ioria's conclusion of his thoughts .
[21:05] <ioria> robozi, i don't know what you did before, the xenial hwe stack upgrade precess works... so i'd start purge nvidia* and bumblebee*
[21:05] <robozi> Ok. Give me the commands to purge them
[21:06] <ioria> robozi,  sudo apt-get purge nvidia*  bumblebee+
[21:06] <ioria> bumblebee*
[21:07] <ioria> robozi,  and sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:08] <ioria> maybe multiarch
[21:08] <ioria> robozi,  try this : sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-xenial
[21:08] <ioria>   xserver-xorg-core-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-lts-xenial
[21:08] <ioria>   xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-xenial
[21:08] <ioria>   libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-xenial libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-xenial
[21:08] <ioria>   libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-xenial:i386 libglapi-mesa-lts-xenial:i386
[21:09] <ioria> robozi,  Multiarch Desktop has a different command
[21:10] <robozi> Cannot remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf. it says no such file or directory
[21:10] <ioria> ok
[21:11] <ioria> robozi,  copy and paste from here Multiarch Desktop section : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[21:14] <Daekdroom> Hello, I'm installing an additional SSD for my Ubuntu PC. Which partition table type should I use?
[21:16] <HcsOmot> hi. i was having some trouble with soundcard a while back, so before resorting to completly reinstalling both oses (dualboot win10&mint18.1) i've decided to try fixing it by installing a newer version of kernel. this actually fixed my sound issues (no sound in both linux and windows, no sound cards detected in either os).
[21:17] <mindefragmentati> test msg to check if I have changed nick, pay no attention
[21:17] <HcsOmot> now i've got two new problems: after doing dist-upgrade, i got the following warnings:
[21:17] <HcsOmot> W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/kbl_guc_ver9_14.bin for module i915
[21:17] <HcsOmot> W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/bxt_guc_ver8_7.bin for module i915
[21:18] <HcsOmot> I searched around online for what it means, from what i've gathered, it has something to do with graphics card firmware. could someone explain a bit what should I do about it, and what it really means?
[21:19] <TJ-> HcsOmot: From update-initramfs -u ...?
[21:19] <lordcirth_work> HcsOmot, i915 is Intel integrated graphics.  Are you using that?
[21:20] <HcsOmot> yes, i've got an asus laptop, with integrated intel graphics
[21:20] <TJ-> HcsOmot: often it's not a problem; it happens when the kernel modules declare all the firmware file versions they support, and some of those aren't supplied in the current "linux-firmware" package. USually it isn't a problem unless its about very recent hardware
[21:21] <HcsOmot> TJ-: lordcirth_work: well, the laptop is asus ux410uak, i believe it's a 2017model, if that's important at all?
[21:22] <HcsOmot> so, the other problem i'm having is when i tried installing virtualbox, i got the following: Building only for 4.14.0-041400-lowlatency
[21:22] <HcsOmot> Module build for the currently running kernel was skipped since the
[21:22] <HcsOmot> kernel source for this kernel does not seem to be installed.
[21:22] <TJ-> HcsOmot: is the "linux-firmware" package up to date? I'd assume so. As long as the i915 driver is working it's fine.
[21:23] <TJ-> HcsOmot: that is caused by the linux-headers-<Version> package not being installed
[21:25] <HcsOmot> TJ-: when i was installing the new kernel (it was actually my first time doing that), i ran sudo dpkg-i in a directory where i had these: linux-headers-4.14.0-041400_4.14.0-041400.201711122031_all.deb            linux-image-4.14.0-041400-lowlatency_4.14.0-041400.201711122031_amd64.deb
[21:25] <HcsOmot> linux-headers-4.14.0-041400-generic_4.14.0-041400.201711122031_amd64.deb
[21:26] <HcsOmot> after which i've updaged grub
[21:29] <HcsOmot> also, i just did sudo apt-get install linux-headers-4.14.0-041400 and -generic, apt says they're both the latest version
[21:29] <TJ-> HcsOmot: if you "cd /directory/with/deb/packages/in/" then to install *ALL* the .debs at once do "sudo dpkg -Ri ."
[21:30] <TJ-> HcsOmot: sounds like you've already covered it with 'apt-get' by now though
[21:30] <robozi> ioria
[21:30] <robozi> Bashing-om
[21:30] <HcsOmot> ok, so how do i fix the missing kernel sources issue while trying to install virtualbox
[21:31] <robozi> http://termbin.com/0mlu
[21:31] <Bashing-om> robozi: look'n .
[21:31] <robozi> This is from (ioria) robozi,  copy and paste from here Multiarch Desktop section : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[21:31] <TJ-> HcsOmot: that's the linux-headers packages... contains the source header-files (*.h) required to build out-of-tree kernel modules from source
[21:32] <TJ-> HcsOmot: if however, the currently running kernel is a different version, then you'll need to specify the kernel version to build against. Are you using "dkms" to build the module?
[21:32] <ppf> so ... sending from udev to dbus, any suggestion how to do this?
[21:34] <HcsOmot> TJ-: i appreciate the effort, but i really don't know what most of that means... :( how do I find out if i'm using dkms? while trying to install virtualbox, this is part of the output: Loading new virtualbox-5.0.40 DKMS files...
[21:34] <ylwghst> VirtualBox doesn't work with 4.14 yet
[21:35] <TJ-> VirtualBox 5.2.2 does
[21:37] <ylwghst> HcsOmot: then you should install 5.2.2
[21:37] <HcsOmot> ok, i'll give it a try
[21:38] <TJ-> HcsOmot: OK, Dynamic Kernel Module Support, a way for an out-of-tree module to be built and installed/removed into a system.
[21:40] <HcsOmot> TJ-: any good noob friendly resources that try to explain what that means? sorry - i really do appreciate the effort, and believe me - i do want to learn these things.
[21:41] <EldritchGuard> I need help I have no sound coming from my computer
[21:42] <EldritchGuard> it says no device (this is a laptop)
[21:42] <EldritchGuard> I updated it recently (ubuntu 16.04 lts)
[21:42] <EldritchGuard> and it stopped working
[21:42] <Shibe> guys do the libsdl2 that are in the ubuntu repository support wayland?
[21:42] <EldritchGuard> I tried purging Pulseaudio and alsa to no avail I need help
[21:42] <TJ-> HcsOmot: almost all kernel 'drivers' (modules) are part of the mainline Linux kernel. A few are not, and are called "out-of-(source)-tree", and have to be built from source-code against the kernel's include headers (those *.h files). The DKMS was developed to provide a single service for automating the build/install process of those modules.
[21:44] <Bashing-om> robozi: Has the system returned to a prompt yet ?
[21:45] <HcsOmot> TJ-: that's actually clear to me now. also - if i'm downloading virtualbox deb package from web, which one am i supposed to use, since i'm using a kernel that's newer than what my distro originally shipped with?
[21:45] <robozi> Bashing-om, well i am not able to run that command
[21:45] <TJ-> HcsOmot: the VB 5.2.2 contains the fixed kernel module that works with kernel 4.14
[21:46] <HcsOmot> EldritchGuard: i had exact same problem about a month ago. trying to deal with the aftermath of fixing it right now.
[21:46] <ylwghst> http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/5.2.2/virtualbox-5.2_5.2.2-119230~Ubuntu~zesty_amd64.deb
[21:46] <robozi> Prompt means the terminal not doing anything?
[21:46] <EldritchGuard> why what happened HcsOmot ?
[21:46] <HcsOmot> TJ- ylwghst ok, so i should be ok going with 17.04?
[21:47] <TJ-> HcsOmot: Yes
[21:48] <ylwghst> I haven't tried 5.2.2 yet but 5.0.4 is not updated for 4.14 kernel yet, if 5.2.2 is updated then just sudo dpkg -i virtualbox-5.2_5.2.2-119230~Ubuntu~zesty_amd64.deb
[21:48] <Bashing-om> robozi: MY prompt " sysop@x1604:~$ " awaiting the next command . What was the last command that you ran ?
[21:49] <TJ-> ylwghst: it was release 4 days ago
[21:49] <HcsOmot> EldritchGuard: don't know, sound stopped working after update. couldn't fix it. tried purging pulseaudio and alsa, didn't work. even stoped working in windows10(dual boot machine).
[21:49] <HcsOmot> EldritchGuard: i installed a new kernel, setup grub, rebooted, everything worked like a charm. even fixed some powermanager issues i was having.
[21:50] <ylwghst> TJ-: i see
[21:50] <HcsOmot> EldritchGuard: but i ran into some other issues with graphics and virtualbox, so i'm trying to sort these out now
[21:51] <TJ-> HcsOmot: that sounds like an ACPI issue, can happen especially with battery powered devices that are never really powered off (often the 5V standby is maintained)
[21:53] <HcsOmot> could be. i can't take out the battery from my laptop, and was putting it into sleep for a while, without fully shutting down
[21:58] <HcsOmot> ok, so dpkg complains about unmet dependencies. is there a way to download them automatically while trying to install, or do I have to do it manually (running apt-get install <everything dpkg said was missing)
[21:59] <TJ-> HcsOmot: try "sudo apt-get -f install"
[22:00] <robozi> Bashing-om https://1drv.ms/i/s!AqpWcyP6BllXiLF83R1Lcp_MLtRsCg
[22:00] <robozi> Imgur is not working
[22:00] <robozi> :(
[22:01] <HcsOmot> TJ-: The following packages will be REMOVED:
[22:01] <HcsOmot>   virtualbox-5.2
[22:01] <HcsOmot> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[22:02] <TJ-> HcsOmot: Hmmm!
[22:03] <TJ-> HcsOmot: which dependencies does dpkg complain about? including versions
[22:03] <HcsOmot> TJ-: output of dpkg -i for virtualbox dpkg: error processing package virtualbox-5.2 (--install):
[22:03] <HcsOmot>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[22:03] <HcsOmot> TJ-: quite a few, actually
[22:03] <HcsOmot> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of virtualbox-5.2:
[22:03] <HcsOmot>  virtualbox-5.2 depends on libpng16-16 (>= 1.6.2-1); however:
[22:03] <HcsOmot>   Package libpng16-16 is not installed.
[22:03] <HcsOmot>  virtualbox-5.2 depends on libqt5core5a (>= 5.7.0); however:
[22:03] <HcsOmot>   Version of libqt5core5a:amd64 on system is 5.5.1+dfsg-16ubuntu7.5.
[22:04] <Bashing-om> robozi: try as ' sudo apt-get install --install-recommends <package> ' .
[22:05] <TJ-> !paste | HcsOmot
[22:05] <HcsOmot> yeah, sorry :/
[22:06] <TJ-> HcsOmot: OK, didn't you say this is Ubuntu 17.10? and you downloaded virtualbox-5.2_5.2.2-119230~Ubuntu~zesty_amd64.deb
[22:07] <HcsOmot> no, it's 16.04 and I installed kernel 4.14 because I was having trouble with soundcard. after new kernel everything got fixed. except things that broke :/
[22:08] <TJ-> in which case the package ylwghst pointed you to was for the wrong release; you need this one: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/5.2.2/virtualbox-5.2_5.2.2-119230~Ubuntu~xenial_amd64.deb   for Xenial/16.04
[22:08] <TJ-> HcsOmot: so remove the package you just installed with "sudo apt-get -f install" then you can install the correct package
[22:09] <HcsOmot> TJ-: apt-get -f install didn't install anything, just tried to remove the unconfigured virtualbox i tried installing with dpkg -i. i aborted the apt-get -f
[22:10] <HcsOmot> TJ-: couldn't i just install manually whatever is missing?
[22:10] <TJ-> HcsOmot: I'm not impressed by Oracle's download service. Not over HTTPS and they haven't GPG signed the file hashes so they could be tampered with.
[22:10] <TJ-> HcsOmot: nothing is missing - you've installed a package for 17.10, rather than for 16.04
[22:12] <robozi> Bashing-om, https://1drv.ms/i/s!AqpWcyP6BllXiLICtpac7vZPAYmpfg
[22:15] <HcsOmot> TJ-: yeah, but we were talking about virtualbox 5.2.2 support for 4.14 kernel. and i'm running mint18.1 which is like ubuntu 16.04, only not with standard kernel, but rather with 4.14. not sure if you see my confusion here?
[22:15] <Bashing-om> !info libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-xenial trusty
[22:16] <TJ-> HcsOmot: no confusion on versions, but we don't support Mint here
[22:16] <Bashing-om> robozi: typo ... see the above for the name as " libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-xenial " .
[22:19] <HcsOmot> TJ-: ok, i now this is ubuntu channel, but the reason for *my* confusion is the following: if i'm using kernel 4.14, and ubuntu 16.04 by default uses 4.4, am I supposed to install virtualbox for 17.04/10 or 16.04?
[22:20] <TJ-> HcsOmot: for 16.04. That defines all the library versions supported. The kernel interface remains backward compatible in newer releases, unlike in many libraries
[22:21] <_geoff> Hi I have a cronjob that was running as root
[22:21] <_geoff> it was removed using `crontab -e` and just deleting the line and saving
[22:22] <_geoff> but the process is still running on the same schedule and i am losing mymind
[22:25] <marijuana> pkill -HUP cron
[22:25] <marijuana> or whatever your crond name is
[22:26] <_geoff> okay
[22:34] <robozi> Bashing-om, finnally i have been able to run that latest command that ioaria sent me
[22:35] <robozi> Kernel now is 3.16.0-77-generic
[22:35] <robozi> Ubuntu 14.04.5 lts
[22:36] <Bashing-om> robozi: I am considering if it is time to reboot and see what we have .
[22:40] <Bashing-om> robozi: Let's test the waters . what results ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ; sudo apt -f install ' ?
[22:40] <bunnypuncher> TCP vulnerability in Linux kernels pre 4.7: CVE-2016-5696
[22:45] <robozi> Bashing-om, https://1drv.ms/i/s!AqpWcyP6BllXiLIE4yVakVA4-Ehlaw
[22:45] <robozi> That is what i get instead of the unity login screen
[22:46] <TJ-> bunnypuncher: that's quite old :)
[22:46] <bunnypuncher> yes but people are posting using kernel 3.x
[22:47] <bunnypuncher> maybe word hasn't reached everyone
[22:48] <TJ-> Sounds like the least of the problems there, at the moment :)
[22:49] <Bashing-om> robozi: Well, still with no graphic's driver ? what results activating the terminal ( crl+alt+F1 _ . and also the results of my last request ?
[22:50] <robozi> Ctrl+alt+f1 gvea me in the virtual terminal
[22:50] <Bashing-om> robozi: Now what " sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ; sudo apt -f install
[22:50] <Bashing-om> "
[22:51] <robozi> Running: info ..... got me in a screen on how to run some commands
[23:07] <UsQUE> anyone know if its possible to do kind of differential file backup checking the files that where not backuped with previous backups and back them up with next round on different disk? can rsync do this ?
[23:24] <robozi> Bashing-om, ur last command went very well
[23:24] <robozi> I have run it 2 times
[23:24] <robozi> Everything seems to be ok
[23:25] <robozi> But no unity gui yet :(
[23:27] <Zabot_> I've got a dual monitor setup on 16.04 and the second monitor works fine, but after login it goes black and only shows a cursor. Anyone have any troubleshooting ideas?
[23:27] <neogeo_fsmtw> Zabot_: rusty abt multi-head x.org config but would start there
[23:27] <neogeo_fsmtw> xinerama iirc
[23:28] <TJ-> Zabot_: can you move widows onto it?
[23:28] <TJ-> s/widows/windows/
[23:28] <Bashing-om> robozi: Making good progress then . OK . ' dpkg -l | grep nvidia* | nc termbin.com 9999 ' .
[23:29] <Zabot_> I can drag windows over to the other screen, and they behave like there is a second window, but all that displays is the mouse cursor
[23:29] <TJ-> Zabot_: that is rather weird - which desktop environment is it, Unity?
[23:30] <Zabot_> yeah, unity. Everything is stock out of the box LTS desktop install
[23:30] <neogeo_fsmtw> Zabot_: not sure which window manager is in use, maybe another wm would handle the configuration more smoothly?
[23:30] <TJ-> Zabot_: what is the GPU? "lspci -nn" will help identify it
[23:30] <neogeo_fsmtw> #xfce
[23:32] <robozi> Bashing-om, ur command gives no output
[23:33] <Zabot_> One of them is plugged into internal intel graphics, the other is plugged into a discreet 1060
[23:35] <Bashing-om> robozi: No output at all is not expected . nothing back in terminal with ' dpkg -l | grep nvidia* ' ?
[23:35] <robozi> Nops
[23:35] <robozi> Nothing
[23:35] <robozi> Null
[23:35] <robozi> Nix
[23:35] <Zabot_> Monitor with strange behavior is plugged into the gpu, let me try the propritary drivers
[23:35] <robozi> 0 output
[23:35] <neogeo_fsmtw> anyone knows now to make ufs fileystems accessible w/ fuse under ubuntu? xenial
[23:36] <neogeo_fsmtw> xfce file manager. will check mount manual page
[23:37] <Bashing-om> robozi: k, let's install a driver, what is the card we are working with . show ' lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga ' ?
[23:38] <TJ-> Zabot_: that would cause issues
[23:41] <genii> neogeo_fsmtw: I'm pretty sure all you need to do is just make sure the ufs kernel module is loaded
[23:41] <genii> neogeo_fsmtw: You can do it manually with sudo modprobe ufs for a one-shot, or put it in /etc/modules for always
[23:42] <neogeo_fsmtw> genii: ty; checked manual page, using ufs fstype, ufs2 ufstype. seems I can't mount it rw tho
[23:42] <neogeo_fsmtw> trying to mount a ufs partition on a usb drive via a virtualbox envt on a microsoft os, will try fbsd again
[23:44] <neogeo_fsmtw> ports woo
[23:45] <genii> Yes, FreeBSD ports system is pretty nice
[23:47] <Bashing-om> robozi: Slipped my mind . do you own the desktop ? what shows ' ls -al .ICEauthority .Xauthority ' ?
[23:53] <Thyriaen> i am running ubuntu 16.04 with an upgraded kernel to 14.6 on the x1 carbon 2017 - it does not shutdown properly -stuck at https://imgur.com/a/DFuHP