[00:01] <sarnold> apb1963: does dpkg -l 'php*' | cat   show php packages installed?
[00:05] <apb1963> checking
[00:08] <apb1963> sarnold, There's a bunch of things... I don't know if it's got what's right or not...  https://pastebin.com/AbiHr9FC
[00:09] <sarnold> apb1963: alright try something like 'a2enmod php' .. see if that gives anything interesting
[00:10] <apb1963> a2enmod php
[00:10] <apb1963> ERROR: Module php does not exist!
[00:11] <apb1963> Quite interesting
[00:11] <apb1963> But... why not?
[00:11] <sarnold> maybe a2enmod php7?
[00:11] <apb1963> ah
[00:11] <apb1963> a2enmod php7
[00:11] <apb1963> ERROR: Module php7 does not exist!
[00:12] <sarnold> php7.0? :)
[00:12] <apb1963> haha  let me google the error
[00:12] <sarnold> I can't stand apache and detest php, so I've never tried to set it up before ..
[00:12] <sarnold> but one of these times feels like we ought to be able to stumble on the name :)
[00:13] <apb1963> https://askubuntu.com/questions/912638/error-module-php7-0-does-not-exist
[00:14] <apb1963> what's utterly baffling to me is, this was working...  I didn't do anything in regard to what that page says so why now?
[00:15] <sarnold> it _was_ working? what changed/
[00:15] <apb1963> lots of things
[00:16] <apb1963> mostly the config files I suppose.
[00:16] <apb1963> what did not change is how I installed it.
[00:16] <apb1963> And that page implies - strongly - that I need another module I didn't need before.
[00:17] <apb1963> So 1+1=999
[00:17] <sarnold> then maybe you were using fastcgi?
[00:17] <apb1963> Again.. I didn't set anything special up
[00:17] <apb1963> just the bare minimum install
[00:17] <apb1963> plus configuration twisting
[00:17] <apb1963> that's why it makes no sense
[00:18] <apb1963> well, I guess I should try it
[00:22] <apb1963> sarnold, I installed it, I enabled php7.0.... and apache won't restart
[00:22] <apb1963> so... backing it out for a minute...
[00:23] <apb1963> yeah, just disabling it is enough to bring apache back up
[00:23] <apb1963> so it's definitely the module... or at least.. it's bringing out the bug in the config somehow.
[00:36] <apb1963> well i've never seen it do this before... I was removing the same modules and it chose to INstall a different package. The following additional packages will be installed:
[00:36] <apb1963>   php7.0-fpm
[00:36] <apb1963> Suggested packages:
[00:36] <apb1963>   php-pear
[00:36] <apb1963>  
[00:37] <sarnold> debian packages have requirements, suggestions, etc.; the first bits of the ubuntu wordpress package for example has: Depends: apache2 | httpd, libapache2-mod-php | php
[00:38] <sarnold> if you have wordpress and libapache2-mod-php installed and try to remove libapache2-mod-php, apt will then ry to install the 'php' package
[00:44] <apb1963> now neither module will let apache start so...i'm just going to purge and reinstall again... this will take a couple of minutes.
[00:50] <apb1963> and now even that doesn't work
[00:51] <apb1963> I really wish purge meant it and not this watered down version that won't actually purge files... I thought remove was to not purge files.
[00:51] <apb1963> Is there a "nuke" files option?
[00:51] <sarnold> if apt-get purge left behind configuration files, please file bugs on that. purge should mean _purge_
[00:51] <apb1963> seems to be the case of every package
[00:52] <apb1963> s/of/for/
[00:52] <apb1963> so now I guess I need to hunt config files I might have changed.  sigh
[01:24] <apb1963> Sigh.  I have sinned and now I must pay forever.  "Not replacing deleted config file /etc/php/7.0/apache2/php.ini"
[01:33] <apb1963> Please read http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/php or see http://akat1.pl/?id=1 on why you shouldn't be using mod_php
[01:33] <apb1963> should have put that in quotes :)
[01:33] <apb1963> my brain  hurts
[01:34] <apb1963> bbl
[03:33] <fellas> how do i remove all the effects of conjure-up
[03:33] <fellas> i followed the insturctions on here and it messed up my whole ubuntu server
[03:33] <fellas> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud/try-openstack
[03:34] <sarnold> guessing, snap purge the lxd and whatever else snaps it installed, then apt-get purge snapd, and then look around and see what's left?
[03:34] <fellas> when i did conjure-up it tried to install but got a lot of errors i had to cut it off short.  but now when i do ifconfig i get alot of made up virtual ethernet adapters
[03:35] <fellas> sarnold give me the basics i dont use snap
[03:35] <fellas> never used it
[03:35] <stokachu> you have an incomplete juju deployment
[03:35] <fellas> yes i do
[03:35] <sarnold> fellas: me neither, try blind "snap purge lxd" and see what happens
[03:35] <fellas> everything is all messed up
[03:35] <stokachu> juju controllers; juju kill-controller <name>
[03:36] <stokachu> well no your server is running a bunch of containers
[03:36] <stokachu> so it's not all messed up
[03:36] <fellas> jujud kills my processs need to totally kill it ..elminate it from my system
[03:36] <stokachu> huh?
[03:37] <fellas> once in a while jujud runs and sucks up all my process...when i put top command... isee it eatting all processes
[03:37] <fellas> i want it out of my system
[03:37] <stokachu> well do what i told you and then sudo snap remove conjure-up
[03:38] <fellas> i followed the simple commands here but there were a bnunch of errors and i was never able to finish..now i dont kno whow to rollback
[03:38] <fellas> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud/try-openstack
[03:38] <fellas> im using fresh installation of ubuntu server 16.0.4.3
[03:38] <stokachu> but keep in mind that jujud runs on the containers who are also running a bunch of apt install commands etc
[03:38] <sarnold> fellas: juju controllers; juju kill-controller <name> ; snap remove conjure-up
[03:38] <stokachu> well what kind of hardware do you have
[03:38] <fellas> dell server
[03:38] <fellas> r710
[03:38] <stokachu> and you keep mentioning errors but haven't actually said what they are
[03:38] <fellas> raid
[03:38] <fellas> raid 0 virtual drive
[03:38] <stokachu> how much memory
[03:39] <fellas> 40gb
[03:39] <stokachu> uhm ok
[03:39] <stokachu> how much storage
[03:39] <fellas> 2tb
[03:40] <stokachu> and what are the errors
[03:40] <fellas> not sure.
[03:40] <fellas> where would the logs be
[03:41] <fellas> i wanna uninstall novi
[03:41] <stokachu> novi?
[03:41] <fellas> the whole thing i wanna remove ...this sucks
[03:41] <stokachu> well we've told you how to do it twice now
[03:42] <fellas> well i did snap remove conjure-up
[03:42] <fellas> so hopefully that kills it
[03:42] <fellas> thanks guys
[03:42] <stokachu> who knows, since we didnt actually get to the root of your problem
[03:44] <fellas> i think the reason i didnt get conjure-up to install was cause of my raid 0.  from what i read online but i dont remember
[03:44] <stokachu> ok well that hardly warrants saying conjure-up sucks
[03:44] <stokachu> but anyway, good luck
[03:44] <fellas> no hopefully it works better in future
[03:45] <fellas> dont mean to say it sucks..i just dont know what happened..i followed all commands as is but then it just crapped out on my system...fresh indstallation too so idk..
[03:45] <fellas> either way thanks
[07:14] <Art100> hello - need help to configure network bridge in netplan
[11:16] <Shawn|i7-720QM> howdy
[11:16] <Shawn|i7-720QM> anyone here know of any modifications for bash
[11:16] <Shawn|i7-720QM> that enhance resolution and add a background?
[11:16] <Shawn|i7-720QM> some special bash mode
[11:19] <Shawn|i7-720QM> not in any desktop manager
[11:19] <Shawn|i7-720QM> or window manager rather
[13:06] <ren0v0> Hey, i've moved a cron script from /etc/cron.daily/ to /etc/cron.hourly/, but its not firing
[13:06] <ren0v0> is there something i'm missing?
[13:06] <ren0v0> It's for logrotate, and if i run the script manually it works just fine
[18:29] <apb1963> ren0v0, "man anacron anacrontab".  Edit /etc/anacrontab.  I suspect you need to add in cron.hourly.  Just guessing, never modified it myself.