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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!00:01
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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_calligra build #156: STILL FAILING in 34 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_calligra/156/00:48
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ikoniawe need to update that ops call01:13
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QuintasanI think I had ops here at some point01:13
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!01:19
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_ktexteditor build #53: FIXED in 24 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_ktexteditor/53/01:19
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> @ahoneybun @Valoriez Could an op please delete the spam messages from this end?01:20
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_messagelib build #79: STILL FAILING in 20 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_messagelib/79/01:29
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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_messagelib build #80: STILL FAILING in 20 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_messagelib/80/01:54
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_calligra build #157: STILL FAILING in 1 hr 3 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_calligra/157/01:57
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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_calligra build #41: STILL FAILING in 59 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_calligra/41/02:19
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-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!02:30
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_ktexteditor build #151: FIXED in 18 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_ktexteditor/151/02:30
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_calligra build #42: STILL FAILING in 54 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_calligra/42/03:19
mamarleyacheronuk: I apologize if this has already been mentioned, but it looks like Artful is migrating to VLC 3.0rc and some KDE packages will need recompiling to work with it.03:20
mamarleys/Artful/Bionic03:20
* mamarley is up too late.03:20
tsimonq2mamarley: I did that, and I'm aware.03:20
tsimonq2Which ones specifically?03:21
* mamarley hasn't taken the time to figure that out yet.03:21
mamarleyBut anything that depends on "libvlccore8".03:21
mamarleyIt looks like just whatever source packages are associated with phonon-backend-vlc and phonon4qt5-backend-vlc.03:22
mamarley(Based on the "Dependants" view in Synaptic.)03:23
tsimonq2Hmph, this should have been handled by Britney.03:23
tsimonq2mamarley: If you get me a machine-readable list, I can kick off no-change rebuilds.03:24
valorieI don't know how to delete spam from the irclogs03:27
valorieperhaps someone in #ubuntu-ops does03:27
tsimonq2valorie: You can't, but you can delete the Telegram messages.03:27
valorieoh, ok03:27
mamarleytsimonq2: It looks like just the source package "phonon-backend-vlc".  That's the only thing breaking my computer anyway.  There might be other stuff I don't have installed.03:27
valorieall KC members should have ops in this channel03:27
tsimonq2Well, maybe someone there can manually edit the files... but my point in pinging was the Telegram channel, valorie 03:28
mamarleyOddly enough, it was just synced from Debian 6 hours ago, but it doesn't appear to have built in -proposed, so it still got the old VLC stuff.03:28
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valorieuh03:29
valoriehow did I do that -- just deleted spam03:29
tsimonq2heh yeah...03:29
valoriegosh03:29
valorieput back the bot03:32
valoriegot rid of what looks like a spammer to me03:32
tsimonq2valorie: The bot isn't back.03:34
valoriewell, I unbanned it03:35
tsimonq2valorie: Mind just OPing me in Telegram so I can take care of it?03:38
valorietrying to do that03:39
valoriecan't seem to get the right screen03:39
tsimonq2valorie: Right click my name in the users list and promote me03:40
valoriemaybe I can do it on the desktop client03:42
valoriephone just isn't letting me03:42
valorienor is the desktop app03:46
valorieah, I don't have the right to make new admins03:48
valorieonly ovidiu-florin does03:48
tsimonq2Way to go valorie :P03:49
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IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Er03:49
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Hm03:49
tsimonq2Ohai :)03:49
tsimonq2It works \o/03:49
valoriethank you03:50
tsimonq2yw03:50
tsimonq2mamarley: Try adding ppa:tsimonq2/universe-upload-testing and see if it does anything.03:50
tsimonq2wxl: bionic_unstable_messagelib could use some symbols love if you're up for it.04:07
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_ki18n build #37: STILL UNSTABLE in 17 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_ki18n/37/04:08
tsimonq2wxl: So could bionic_unstable_ktnef, bionic_unstable_kpimtextedit, and bionic_unstable_kcalcore.04:12
tsimonq2wxl: And bionic_unstable_kamoso with bionic_unstable_babe are fun ones, with bionic_unstable_calligra being a bit easier.04:12
wxli've got some other things to work on right now but eventually tsimonq2 04:13
tsimonq2wxl: Basically, if you have the time, you could make things easier for us down the road when we have to get these packages ready for the archive. ;)04:13
tsimonq2wxl: Alright04:13
valoriereminder - it would be cool to have someone take over clive04:18
valorie's PPA for Falkon04:18
valoriewhich I'm using exclusively and full time04:18
valoriequite successfully04:18
tsimonq2Were those just daily Falkon builds?04:18
valoriefrom KCI I believe04:21
valoriehe brought it back up so I wouldn't fall behind04:22
valorieI didn't realize I was the only tester04:22
tsimonq2valorie: Are you on Bionic?04:24
valorienot yet, no04:32
tsimonq2Ok04:32
valoriemaybe for the alpha 1 I'll make the jump04:32
valorietsimonq2: any reason in particular you're asking?04:35
tsimonq2Quite possibly. :P04:36
tsimonq2valorie: https://launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/+archive/ubuntu/falkon04:48
tsimonq2valorie: New packages will build on a daily basis whenever there's new upstream commits.04:48
valorieyay!04:48
tsimonq2I have *not* tested this ;)04:48
* tsimonq2 is about to, though04:48
valorieadded the ppa and updated/upgraded, but no changes04:50
tsimonq2It's still publishing, it seems.04:51
tsimonq2Additionally, just a note for developers: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-kde/5:93ubuntu104:51
tsimonq2valorie: Yep, Falkon works :D05:37
valorieit doesn't just work05:40
tsimonq2Oh?05:40
valorieso far, it beats out chrome, chromium, and FF05:40
valoriefor me05:40
valoriefor the sites I use05:40
tsimonq2Oh, I thought something was broken. :P05:40
tsimonq2valorie: So the upgrade to my PPA worked?05:46
valorieif it's done building I'll upgrade again05:46
valorieotherwise, everything was good05:46
tsimonq2Yup, it should be good now.05:46
tsimonq2Try upgrading again.05:47
tsimonq2(I want to make sure my build isn't broken ;)05:47
tsimonq2)05:47
tsimonq2I mean, it works for me.05:47
tsimonq2But still.05:47
-kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_falkon build #53: STILL FAILING in 2 min 43 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_falkon/53/05:48
tsimonq2valorie: One thing I'm looking into is the fact that if you don't have the very latest QtWebEngine, Falkon might have 100 different known, exploitable security vulnerabilities at any given time.05:49
tsimonq2The security for QtWebEngine really needs an improvement.05:49
tsimonq2(Well, not the security, but rather, how quickly those updates are released.)05:50
valorie!info qtwebengine05:50
ubottuPackage qtwebengine does not exist in bionic05:50
valoriepfff05:50
tsimonq2!info libqt5webenginecore505:51
ubottulibqt5webenginecore5 (source: qtwebengine-opensource-src): Web content engine library for Qt - Core. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.9.2+dfsg-2ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 31031 kB, installed size 117773 kB05:51
tsimonq2!info libqt5webenginewidgets505:51
ubottulibqt5webenginewidgets5 (source: qtwebengine-opensource-src): Web content engine library for Qt - Widget. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.9.2+dfsg-2ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 135 kB, installed size 851 kB05:51
tsimonq2I'm working on the Qt 5.9.3 update right now, which will feature a whole slew of security updates.05:52
valorieapt-cache policy libqt5webengine505:52
valorielibqt5webengine5:05:52
valorie  Installed: 5.9.1+dfsg-405:52
valorie  Candidate: 5.9.1+dfsg-405:52
valorieoh, webenginecore, ok05:52
valoriestill on artful though05:52
tsimonq2Eventually I'm going to have to learn how to deal with the cluster**** that is updating QtWebEngine to a new Chromium and testing it without relying on upstream.05:52
tsimonq2Right.05:52
tsimonq2But right now, anything that uses an outdated QtWebEngine is a security liability.05:53
valorieInstalled: 5.9.1+dfsg-405:54
valorieso a bit behind05:55
valorieperhaps let the falkon devel about that?05:56
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tsimonq2There's nothing they can do.05:56
valorieso that they can require the new qt?05:56
tsimonq2That doesn't matter if you ship an old Qupzilla/Falkon and an old Qt05:57
tsimonq2You're still going to be vulnerable if you don't take action.05:57
valoriewell, it would be good to talk with the devel anyway, to find out their release plan05:57
valoriebecause we can't ship it if it ain't released in time to test thoroughly05:58
tsimonq2There's ways around that. >_>05:58
valoriewell, we shouldn't make an exception for a browser05:59
valoriethat's too important05:59
tsimonq2That's... what they already do for Firefox and Chromium?05:59
tsimonq2:))05:59
tsimonq2!info firefox xenial05:59
ubottufirefox (source: firefox): Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 57.0.1+build2-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 (xenial), package size 44546 kB, installed size 170731 kB05:59
tsimonq2!info chromium-browser xenial05:59
ubottuchromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium web browser, open-source version of Chrome. In component universe, is optional. Version 63.0.3239.84-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 (xenial), package size 73086 kB, installed size 283105 kB05:59
tsimonq2Are those not both current versions? :P05:59
valoriewell, we don't control that05:59
valoriewe will control this05:59
valorieso if there are security vulns, they will be our fault06:00
tsimonq2It's nothing upstream *anything* can do, we as distributors have to fix it ourselves.06:00
tsimonq2Like I said, it's entirely possible to do, it just takes some time and expertise.06:00
valoriewell06:01
tsimonq2I'm willing to volunteer what I have of both.06:01
valorieI would prefer to have a released browser with a bit of promo behind it06:01
valorieover a stealth one06:01
valorieprobable we'll have to stay with FF as default anyway06:02
valoriealthough I would love to have Falkon instead06:02
tsimonq2This isn't even a problem I'm tackling with my Kubuntu hat on, Lubuntu Next ships Qupzilla by default...06:02
valorieah06:03
tsimonq2I'll likely send an email to ubuntu-hardened in the coming weeks, as recommended by the Canonical/Ubuntu Security Team member I talked to.06:03
tsimonq2valorie: To get a gauge on how many vulnerabilities are exploitable, take a look at this DSA for example: https://www.debian.org/security/2017/dsa-402006:05
tsimonq2That's for Chromium, which is embedded in QtWebEngine.06:06
tsimonq2That's one of several I can point to that have been found between 5.9.1 and 5.9.3 being released.06:06
tsimonq2Stack overflows, privledge escalation, URL spoofing...06:07
tsimonq2They're everywhere.06:07
tsimonq2Oh, not to mention PDF viewer issues.06:08
tsimonq2All of these are very much public and exploitable.06:08
valoriehasn't Goog fixed these?06:08
tsimonq2They have.06:09
valorieok06:09
tsimonq2And they're already in upstream QtWebEngine.06:09
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tsimonq2We just haven't released the updates with these patches yet.06:09
tsimonq2Why?06:09
tsimonq2Because embedded code gets complicated. :P06:09
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valorieoy06:09
valorieoops06:10
valorieit's sad to see all the teams shrinking06:10
valorietakes time and knowledge to evaluate and deal with all this stuff06:10
tsimonq2It's not really that either, it's a matter of it just being a new thing that's a PITA. :P06:10
tsimonq2Maybe wxl can be our QtWebEngine security update guy XD06:10
wxldoes ANYONE know where i can find freaking help for using discourse?06:21
wxland don't tell me meta.discourse.org or else06:21
valorieheh06:21
wxloops meant that to go to ko06:21
wxlguess i'm too used to typing /kd :)06:21
valoriethere is #discourse     06:22
valorieaccording to alis06:22
wxlthey just HAD to use the word discourse, didn't they? it '06:22
wxls worse than matrix trying to search for info06:23
wxlespecially when it's on quoting!06:23
valoriemy husband has a POST ancestor06:23
valorieimagine trying to search for that one06:23
wxlhahahah06:23
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blazesomeone removed me from the tg chat. why?07:46
valorieblaze: what was the user name?08:01
valoriewe had a spammer, and while trying to remove the messages, I messed up some stuff08:01
valorieincluding removing the bot08:01
valorie:(08:01
valoriethe list of "actions" I see don't include blaze08:02
valoriein any case, can you rejoin?08:03
IrcsomeBot<myfenris> hi .. anyone here use byobu ?08:06
valorie!info byobu08:07
ubottubyobu (source: byobu): text window manager, shell multiplexer, integrated DevOps environment. In component main, is optional. Version 5.124-0ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 100 kB, installed size 650 kB08:07
IrcsomeBot<myfenris> or what shortcut in KDE using ctrl+f208:07
valorieI've heard of it before, but no08:07
IrcsomeBot<myfenris> there is shortcut not working while using byobu in kde08:07
valorie@myfenris, maybe in #kde they know08:08
IrcsomeBot<myfenris> okie thanks @Valoriez08:08
valorieI am not aware of a Telegram channel that links with that though08:08
ejatalready asked in #kde .. :)08:10
ejatwaiting for them to reply08:10
blazevalorie: it's not a supergroup or publuc chat therefore it's impossible to rejoin08:13
blazewithout invite08:14
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> hi blaze, I quit IRC, but if you let me know your telegram name, I'll invite you08:15
IrcsomeBot<Valoriez> now08:15
valorieeh, I'lll just PM you the invite link08:16
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> "sorry, cannot add unholo due to their privacy settings"08:33
acheronukblaze: ^^^08:33
IrcsomeBotunholo was added by: unholo08:43
blaze:)08:45
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mamarleytsimonq2: I installed those packages and now Phonon works again, thanks!11:18
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> @myfenris, Switching to virtual desktop 2 I think. Clashes with byobu. Can be turned off in  Virtual Desktops, switching tab in systemsettings11:22
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BluesKajHowdy folks11:47
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IrcsomeBot<Andredelsa> hi to everyone15:35
IrcsomeBot<Andredelsa> :)15:35
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IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> Hi @Andredelsa :)15:52
IrcsomeBot<Andredelsa> 😊15:52
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IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> I keep meaning to comment on the design stuff you put on phabricator15:53
IrcsomeBot<Andredelsa> ok15:54
wxlhey @Andredelsa! good to see you! what's new?15:54
IrcsomeBot<Andredelsa> hey @wxl! I'm working on some wallpaper :)15:54
wxloooh got something to show off yet?15:54
IrcsomeBot<Andredelsa> now I'm making a christmas wallpaper15:55
IrcsomeBot<Andredelsa> very simply :)15:55
IrcsomeBot<Andredelsa> 10 minutes and I'll upload here15:55
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wxlwe should add it to the images but only up until alpha 1 (jan 4)16:00
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IrcsomeBot<Andredelsa> I think this would be for some christmas greetings16:01
IrcsomeBot<Andredelsa> :)16:01
IrcsomeBot<Andredelsa> (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/yC70CHxh/file_3841.png16:11
IrcsomeBot<Andredelsa> what do you think?16:11
wxlhahahahah i love it16:12
wxlis that your photo?16:13
wxl(and if so do you still have all those things?)16:13
IrcsomeBot<Andredelsa> (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/yRPyXTqq/file_3843.png16:13
IrcsomeBot<Andredelsa> :D I'm so pleased that you like it16:13
IrcsomeBot<Andredelsa> it's a photo from pexels  … https://static.pexels.com/photos/253207/pexels-photo-253207.jpeg … and I've Gimped :)16:14
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wxli was going to say that ornament would be a little more recognizable if it was turned slightly, but i just love it16:16
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IrcsomeBot<Andredelsa> @wxl, I can try16:43
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IrcsomeBot<Andredelsa> (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/tHnkkCwf/file_3845.png16:51
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> Looks pretty good. Not overly to my taste, but I am not a great judge of design!17:05
IrcsomeBot<Andredelsa> 🙂17:06
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IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Imho it looks too much like Material Design (🤢) but otherwise, lgtm17:19
IrcsomeBot<Andredelsa> yes.. Material Design style :)17:20
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IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> @valorie, I have Falkon installed, and use it daily at work, from Clive ppa17:38
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> @Sick_Rimmit, There's no guarantees that updates from that will continue, ppa:tsimonq2/falkon is now completely automated :l17:39
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> *:)17:39
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> Oh OK, thanks17:39

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