/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/12/18/#ubports.txt

tgBot<mariogrip> Got duble tap to wake up to work if someone is intresed00:00
tgBot<lastdon82> @stuartlangridge, How did you move your apps from the ubuntu store to the openstore?00:00
tgBot<JBBgameich> Is QtQuickControls 2 ready available in Xenial with Qt 5.9 btw?00:02
tgBot<stuartlangridge> @lastdon82, I just published them anew. https://open.uappexplorer.com/ has a “Submit” link at the top.00:02
tgBot<mariogrip> @JBBgameich, Not yet00:02
tgBot<lastdon82> @stuartlangridge, gotchu00:03
tgBot<JBBgameich> @mariogrip, Ok, Thanks! Thank you for your reply on the ubports repository on GitHub btw @mariogrip00:03
tgBot<lastdon82> @stuartlangridge, Are you using Ubuntu SDK for your developments?00:05
tgBot<stuartlangridge> @lastdon82, Yup. All my apps were written while Ubuntu Touch was still a going concern from Canonical. But the SDK still works; it is, after all, just some QML widgets, which ubports correctly continues to ship.00:07
tgBot<lastdon82> I tried to download it on 17.04 from launchpad but it didn't work. Do you know where i can find the SDK installer?00:08
tgBot<mariogrip> @JBBgameich, np00:10
tgBot<milkor73> @Sconio, Dalton just informed me there is an update available for wifitransfer00:11
tgBot<milkor73> (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/86ClrvOD/file_2930.jpg00:11
tgBot<Seumas> Alright guys, what's the story here. 73.2GB usage on a M10 HD? Really?00:20
tgBot<Seumas> (Photo, 1280x800) https://irc.ubports.com/LdsonRFD/file_2932.jpg00:21
tgBot<milkor73> magic?00:26
tgBot<Flohack> @Seumas, Maybe false positive and it is much less?00:26
tgBot<milkor73> Hi flo, thanks tf00:27
tgBot<milkor73> other files: what it is?00:28
tgBot<Seumas> How do I get it to correct the reading? I've shut it down, so it can have a think about what it said. Must be drunk.00:30
tgBot<j2g2rp> @mariogrip, WOW it's also beautifull 😊. It will be release?00:31
tgBot<milkor73> @Seumas, did you erase, delete all coming updates in settings?00:32
tgBot<mariogrip> @j2g2rp, ota-4 :) ota-3 has closed since it's release this week00:32
tgBot<Seumas> Another thing is I cut and pasted a ~500MBish file using File Manager Dev from internal storage into my 64GB card. You'd think that wound help but looking at storage metrics apparently not. This has always greatly exasperated me, that it doesn't understand how to do a cut operation nor deletes IIRC. Not with Dev version or the original.00:33
tgBot<Seumas> Will try that Milan.00:33
tgBot<j2g2rp> @mariogrip, hehe ok. Now that i remember... did you did more tests with mycroft ai?00:33
tgBot<Seumas> *would not wound00:33
tgBot<mariogrip> @j2g2rp, i did some, not anything exiting00:35
tgBot<j2g2rp> @mariogrip, 👍 thanks Marius00:36
tgBot<Seumas> Has anyone else noticed this about default File Manager apps? Knew I should have used Nautilus or command line.00:40
tgBot<milkor73> In my case other file may be photos and my memory looks right now well Seumas00:41
tgBot<milkor73> (Photo, 1920x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/IaEn0XLs/file_2934.jpg00:41
tgBot<Christopher> thank you to everyone here who works on the telegram app. I'm enjoying the update :)00:46
tgBot<Seumas> Fair enough, which device is that?00:46
tgBot<milkor73> N5, channel devel, could you try command: du -s -m *00:50
tgBot<Seumas> Yeah I'll boot it up and try that.00:51
tgBot<stuartlangridge> @milkor73, yup. Let me know if it doesn't work for you.00:52
tgBot<lastdon82> @stuartlangridge, Do you know where I can find the sdk installer? I tried the ppa on launchpad and it is not working on 17.0401:02
tgBot<vanyasem> @lastdon82, i believe you can only run it on 16.04, as it hasn't updated in a while01:07
tgBot<vanyasem> isn't it just the qt creator with some ubuntu touch widgets? :P01:07
tgBot<vanyasem> @vanyasem, oh that is wrong, it should also support 16.1001:09
tgBot<vanyasem> (Photo, 1090x132) https://irc.ubports.com/GgE4ttHP/file_2936.jpg01:09
tgBot<vanyasem> @vanyasem, but still not 17.04. just install the regular Qt Creator01:10
tgBot<Seumas> Think it's ok, on reboot it seemed to acknowledge both the cut and paste and also the fact that talking about 73 GB of storage around the M10 is just ludicrous. Both fixed.01:10
tgBot<lastdon82> @vanyasem, I used it on both 16.04 and 16.1001:10
tgBot<vanyasem> @vanyasem, well it won't work on 17.0401:10
tgBot<vanyasem> because it's not supported01:10
tgBot<PhoenixLandPirate> @mariogrip, Very, very, very, very interested thank you02:09
tgBot<dohbee> @vanyasem, Neither is 16.1002:15
tgBot<vanyasem> @dohbee, we already figured it out in the OpenStore chat. thank you anyways ;)02:29
tgBot<Javacookies> @mariogrip, which device and how???? I even tried installing elementalX,thought it'll work instantly 😆 ends up I broke Ubuntu Touch on MultiROM03:44
tgBot<vanyasem> ofc, ubports requires a different kernel conf03:45
tgBot<vanyasem> you need to rebuild elementalX yourself in order for it to work03:45
tgBot<KrisJacewicz> @mariogrip, +103:46
tgBot<PhoenixLandPirate> @Javacookies, Oneplus one03:49
tgBot<Javacookies> yeah...I know....I thought life was easy 😄03:50
tgBot<Javacookies> SailfishOS booted with ElementalX though but still no doubletap to wake 😛03:51
tgBot<Javacookies> but seriously, I want that feature..it's so convinient03:51
tgBot<PhoenixLandPirate> I agree03:52
tgBot<KrisJacewicz> @mariogrip, would you share with us the howto?03:55
tgBot<Daniel> @mariogrip, Every supported device including FP2? This is a so cool feature!04:16
tgBot<vanyasem> @Daniel, why do you have 3 exactly the same profile pictures04:17
tgBot<Daniel> ?04:20
tgBot<aki237> Guys … ```device/qcom/sepolicy``` … is not needed right?04:20
tgBot<vanyasem> exactly04:20
tgBot<vanyasem> you can safely remove everything related to selinux'04:20
tgBot<Daniel> @vanyasem, I'm sorry, I don't get what you mean04:25
tgBot<aki237> How to setup the kernel configs in halium-7.1?04:27
tgBot<aki237> I have the mer's checker script.04:27
tgBot<vanyasem> @Daniel, you have four identical profile pictures in telegram04:28
tgBot<vanyasem> why04:28
tgBot<vanyasem> @aki237, there's also an ubuntu checker04:29
tgBot<vanyasem> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/kBSqb46C/file_293704:29
tgBot<vanyasem> here you go04:29
tgBot<Daniel> @vanyasem, Good question, reduced it to one. I am an engineer, I love redundancy.04:33
tgBot<Daniel> Reduced to one04:33
tgBot<vanyasem> @Daniel, confirmed fixed, you can close the issue now04:33
tgBot<Daniel> 👍04:34
tgBot<vanyasem> my father had 3 different crops of the same picture, but yours were totally identical04:34
tgBot<vanyasem> a bit unusual :P04:34
tgBot<vanyasem> (sorry for the OT. btw, consider joining @ubports_ot, it's an off-topic channel for all kinds of discussions)04:37
tgBot<aki237> This error : … ```device/zuk/ham/configpanel/Android.mk:36: frameworks/base/packages/SettingsLib/common.mk: No such file or directory``` … : https://github.com/LineageOS/android_device_zuk_ham/blob/cm-14.1/configpanel/Android.mk#L3604:43
tgBot<nfsprodriver> Also alarm clock is waking screen now 👍05:02
tgBotPaolo Roascio was added by: Paolo Roascio05:39
=== Elimin8r is now known as Elimin8er
tgBot<aki237> Any ideas for this error , gcc : 7.2.1 : http://paste.ubuntu.com/26206942/06:07
tgBot<Flohack> @aki237, Can I recommend to continue porting discussions in the Halium group? There are more experts06:24
tgBot<aki237> ok06:25
tgBot<Flohack> This is more a group for users and general questions thx :)06:25
tgBot<Stereofont> @Paolo Roascio, Welcome Paolo! Ask questions, join in. Glad to have you in our community. https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome for lots of newcomer information 🚪06:36
tgBot<Waldbursche> Good morning. When i try to install uwriter from openstore, openstore breaks. BQ E5 15.04 RC r1307:41
tgBot<Waldbursche> Openstore crashes also by other apps. Reboot helps.07:51
tgBot<Sconio> hello, I noticed a big problem with ubuntu touch, from the moment there is no battery, can not restart or recharge, I observed his on the OPO and the m10 FHD08:12
tgBot<Paolo Roascio> @Stereofont, Hello all😄😄 and a big thank you to @Flohack for the supergroup support in telegram. Now i have to find a way to unsubscribe from the old group without loose history🤔08:14
tgBot<Waldbursche> @Sconio, M10FHD it is okay here08:16
tgBot<Sconio> Why ?08:16
tgBot<Sconio> possible issu ?08:16
tgBot<Waldbursche> Which channel?08:17
tgBot<Sconio> devel08:17
tgBot<Waldbursche> Try reboot ?08:18
tgBot<Sconio> impossible08:18
tgBot<Sconio> black screen08:18
tgBot<Sconio> not recharged08:18
tgBot<milkor73> @Sconio, Hi, You have the same issue in two different devices?08:29
tgBot<Sconio> I managed to solve OPPO's problem by changing the battery08:30
tgBot<Sconio> on the other hand the m10 FHD, I dismount, empty the static memory, but without result08:31
tgBot<Sconio> except flash the eprome, have you found an alternative solution?08:33
tgBot<turanmahmudov> @vanyasem, I use ubuntu sdk on ubuntu 17.1008:45
tgBot<milkor73> with Canonical version in the past, sometimes my phone also had similar symptoms , Bq 4.5, I discovered holding for pretty long time the power bottom in the end the device started, did you try it with charging cable connected? If not try first with m1008:45
tgBot<popescu_sorin> @Sconio, same here with m10 and fp208:45
tgBot<milkor73> Long press: 30 sec - 1 min almost08:50
tgBot<vanyasem> @turanmahmudov, i am pretty sure you are mistaken somewhere as there are NO packages for 17.10 in the launchpad repo at all08:56
tgBot<milkor73> @popescu_sorin, Latest devel updates version you have download and installed?09:02
tgBot<Stereofont> @Waldbursche, There are some problems with OpenStore. A fix is in the works09:13
tgBot<Sconio> @milkor73, no react09:16
tgBot<Stereofont> @Sconio, Batteries when depleted can take several minutes before they begin to charge again09:16
tgBot<popescu_sorin> @milkor73, Stable on both 🙃09:19
tgBot<Sconio> good idea if the piles is dead can it create this problem?09:20
tgBot<Flohack> @Stereofont, Our companies iPad took 10hrs to recharge from full empty. Try to keep it longer on the charger09:21
tgBot<Sconio> @Flohack, ok09:21
tgBot<Flohack> Normally there is a slow charge protection because if you are full empty it charges with minimum current09:28
tgBot<Flohack> To not stress the battery. When there is enough voltagr for the regulator to work it will switch to normal or fast charging09:29
tgBot<Flohack> But idk details of our phones09:30
tgBot<docjuhnk> Hi guys! Is anyone else having trouble accessing the adress-book app on Ubuntu Phone? (I use an old bq Aquaris E4.5 that I flashed with UBports some months ago)09:53
tgBot<JBBgameich> @aki237, Looks like a java part again. Just comment it out if it is really java10:13
tgBot<Eranuzan> @mariogrip, Yay!!10:22
tgBot<Stereofont> @Eranuzan, OTA4 so you will have to wait a little 😀10:37
tgBot<Eranuzan> @Stereofont, Thats ok i`m a patient man :)10:55
tgBot<Ern_st> Me send love to @Flohack11:04
tgBot<nanu_c> I would love to have a "adressbook export to sd" button :)11:10
tgBot<Flohack> @Ern_st, Thanks 😊11:30
tgBot<Bolly> Too me ❤️11:42
tgBot<shen feng> In OTA3, ubuntu store was canceled? I can not see Ubuntu store in Meizu PRO5 RC59(devel).13:15
tgBot<milkor73> Yes , if you need some apps you can still get them from stable channel until OTA3 for stable will arrive.13:19
tgBot<shen feng> @milkor73, Ok, thx13:24
tgBot<KrisJacewicz> this is a device that UT could be a laptop-like experience on: … http://www.scooplify.com/tech/list/the-monolith-chaconne-by-turing-robotic-industries-could-be-the-most-powerful-smartphone-in-the-world/pr/13:29
tgBot<TomasOqvist> @KrisJacewicz, Looks like a futuristic Nokia Communicator 🤓13:35
tgBot<KrisJacewicz> ikr!13:36
tgBot<TomasOqvist> Devs and your acronyms... what is ikr?13:37
tgBot<YougoChats> i kant rite13:39
tgBot<TomasOqvist> 😄13:40
tgBot<YougoChats> it's 'i know, right?'😉13:45
tgBot<YougoChats> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/hWrW0Qt0/file_2938.mp413:46
tgBot<YougoChats> The 6.4-Inch Screen Will Be Incredible Because It Has 4k Resolution:13:46
tgBot<gouster4> I can connect bt keyboard as part of case for my phone, and will get same experience.13:48
tgBot<dohbee> @gouster4, your phone has 18 GB RAM, 24 cores, and a Terabyte of storage?13:50
tgBot<dohbee> heck i could just carry my fujitsu laptop with me. it's smaller than this thing is13:52
tgBot<gouster4> No.13:52
tgBot<gouster4> @dohbee, No13:52
tgBot<gouster4> Only 3gb ram, 4 cores and 32gb storage13:54
tgBot<gouster4> But it is still more powerfull than my pc.13:55
tgBot<dohbee> i'm pretty sure this thing is a fake scam though.13:55
tgBot<gouster4> Yeah, maybe yes. Anyways, if it will be real, it will cost ton of money.13:59
tgBot<dohbee> TRI never released their first phone, which is way more reasonable13:59
tgBot<dohbee> and the web site doesn't list anything about this unbelievable thing13:59
tgBot<gouster4> What do u guys think, should i buy PS4 Pro or Xbox One S?14:00
tgBot<dohbee> neither14:00
tgBot<Schyken> I personally lean towards Xbox, but I can't really make suggestions for others because everyone has different gaming preferences.14:00
tgBot<Stereofont> @YougoChats, More detail than can be perceived by the human eye14:01
tgBot<samzn> @gouster4, Offtopic14:01
tgBot<gouster4> @samzn, Sorry14:01
tgBot<dohbee> build an steambox with amd hardware and only buy games that support linux14:01
tgBot<Schyken> @dohbee, xSD14:01
tgBot<dohbee> @Stereofont, maybe your eyes14:02
tgBot<Schyken> Yeah, the whole "our eyes can't see it" thing was always a bit bull tbh.14:03
tgBot<dohbee> "i see dead pixels"14:03
tgBot<Schyken> @dohbee, 😆14:03
tgBot<Schyken> 10/1014:03
tgBot<gouster4> Can be Xbox One S used like windows pc? Or its only for gaming?14:04
tgBot<dohbee> still off topic, but no it's a game console only14:04
tgBot<gouster4> Ok. Thanx.14:04
tgBot<dohbee> and i still disagree with the weird "off topic" policing in here14:05
tgBot<gouster4> @dohbee, Same in ROM support for rom that i using in my phone, then we created offtopic group for that.14:08
tgBot<Georgecloon> There is an unofficial UBports offtopic group14:09
tgBot<gouster4> Cool. I will search for that.14:09
tgBot<Georgecloon> t.me/UBports_OT I believe14:09
tgBot<gouster4> Thanx.14:10
tgBot<Georgecloon> You're welcome14:10
tgBot<Sconio> Hello, I noticed a problem during a phone call, the headset resonates in the microphone, and its despite several attempts with several SIM card14:22
tgBot<wayneoutthere> woooooooah......14:28
tgBot<wayneoutthere> @KrisJacewicz, ....woooah...14:28
tgBot<wayneoutthere> @dohbee, we had a good chat about this yesterday in a 'side chat'.  You didn't join.  Some good progress was made.  many who were interested in the topic joined14:29
tgBot<wayneoutthere> we could re-start there again14:29
tgBot<Seumas> PS4 Pro FTW, VR kicks ass.14:59
Some_Other_Guyis there any midrange priced phone that is best to buy now? or maybe the top 3 if theres enough choice?15:00
tgBot<Seumas> If you're having trouble charging a device, use a lower amperage charging method e.g. plug the USB into a PC instead of the mains. Generally, only let it go to 30% or 20% battery before recharging, it's better for long term battery lifetime.15:00
Some_Other_Guyi always missed my old windows mobile PDA (which also ran debian with haret) and im looking for something similar for my next phone, i want to be able to use a terminal and if possible even a normal desktop when i need it15:00
tgBot<Seumas> I would recommend the Meizu Pro 5 64GB/4GB RAM version :)15:01
tgBot<Seumas> £165 GAP Chinese import.15:02
tgBot<Seumas> *GBP15:02
Some_Other_Guytaking a look thanks :)15:02
Some_Other_Guyi might actually go to china next year lol15:02
tgBot<Seumas> eBay  FTW15:02
Some_Other_Guywhich one? https://www.gsmarena.com/meizu_pro_5_ubuntu-review-1452.php     https://www.gsmarena.com/meizu_pro_5_mini-7741.php15:04
Some_Other_Guyah both are pro :s15:04
Some_Other_Guyonly one was called pro in the listings, but they seem to be the same phone15:04
Some_Other_GuyPrice About 390 EUR15:05
Some_Other_Guyit seems to have mixed reviews though, are there any other good models or brands?15:06
tgBot<dohbee> nexus 5 maybe? i guess it's still pretty mid range15:10
tgBot<LarreaMikel> Yeah, and the meizu pro5 has an "uncertain" development future...15:11
tgBot<dohbee> @wayneoutthere, yes, which i refused to join on principle, and which proves several of my points about why such things are bad :)15:12
Some_Other_Guyfairphone 2 seems cool too but a little pricey (with good reason)15:14
tgBot<dohbee> yeah, fp2 seems worth supporting15:14
Some_Other_Guywhen i had my PDA there were only really 2 PDAs at the top, the pocket loox 720, and another one which both used a PXA72715:15
Some_Other_Guyi had the loox 720, and its still the best built portable computer i ever had15:15
Some_Other_Guynexus 5 can be had second hand but the problem there is you dunno what parts they put in them....15:16
Some_Other_Guya lot of them had a broken touchscreen15:16
Some_Other_Guyand the 5x has a nasty hardware problem causing most of htem to fasil after a year or so15:17
tgBot<dohbee> i don't mean the 5x or anything other than the nexus 515:18
tgBot<dohbee> my wifi/bt are busted, but only because the guy that replaced my power button screwed up15:18
Some_Other_Guylol see...15:19
tgBot<dohbee> if it weren't for that, i'd still be using it as my only phone15:19
Some_Other_Guyi wanna avoid that, and i cant get a new one anymore :(15:19
tgBot<dohbee> well if you keep any phone for 3+ years, situations like that are likely to happen15:19
tgBot<milkor73> Carefully with the Meizu pro5, not all of them I think can be ported with UT15:24
tgBot<turanmahmudov> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/LHcignzb/file_2940.jpg I know what I use ;)15:24
tgBot<turanmahmudov> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/pyjo48CJ/file_2942.jpg @vanyasem Just add PPA for zesty15:26
Some_Other_Guynexus 5 seems cheap though... a brand new looking second hand can be had here for about 100eur it seems15:27
Some_Other_Guylots of value for that money15:27
tgBot<dohbee> yeah, you can't use them to mine bitcoin or ethereum really, so they haven't skyrocketed in price15:28
Some_Other_Guylol15:28
Some_Other_Guysay what you want i wish i had some bitcoins now :)15:28
Some_Other_Guyi wanted to buy some in august but it seemed everyone selling them needed a copy of my passport15:29
tgBot<dohbee> if there was a secure and reliable way to convert them to real moneys, i might agree15:29
Some_Other_Guyso i chose not to buy any at all15:29
tgBotChristophe Quentel was added by: Christophe Quentel15:29
Some_Other_Guyyou just use an exchange lol? you will pay for converting of course15:30
Some_Other_Guymy problem is the exchanges want everything they need to steal my identity15:30
tgBot<dohbee> you must have misread. i said "secure" and "reliable" and "real moneys"15:30
Some_Other_Guythe US government seems to push this15:30
Some_Other_Guywell its somewhat secure i guess15:30
tgBot<dohbee> well, if you trust the other end to actually give you money15:31
Some_Other_Guypick exchanges that have paid everyone so far?15:31
Some_Other_Guyand hope they dont get hacked15:31
Some_Other_Guyit will collapse anyway eventually, just a amtter of time15:32
tgBot<dohbee> yup15:32
tgBot<dohbee> virtual zimbabwe15:32
Some_Other_Guybut we need something to do with all that solar power we have now right? otherwise we dont have to build nuclear powerplants anymore :)15:33
tgBot<dohbee> well, we'd have to build a dyson sphere to use "all" our available solar energy :P15:34
tgBot<dohbee> bitcoin will be long dead by then though15:34
Some_Other_Guylol15:38
Some_Other_Guynot if we make a fleet of selfreplicating AI robots15:39
Some_Other_Guyhow does ubuntu touch run on generix allwinner A10 tablet btw? i booted some version of debian on it once, but could not get the internal screen to work :( everything worked on HDMI out though15:40
tgBot<dohbee> i think it's not supported, so "not at all" perhaps?15:41
Some_Other_Guyseemed to make sense since its so well supported in general, these things can boot from USB by definition15:42
tgBot<dohbee> is it an x86 tablet?15:43
tgBot<milkor73> @Christophe Quentel, Hello Christophe and welcome!  I'm part of the UBports welcoming team.    … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :)15:43
Some_Other_Guyno allwinner A10 is an ARM SoC thats been very popular some years ago15:44
Some_Other_Guyand all devices that make use of it can boot from USB since that is the SoC itself15:44
Some_Other_Guyi mean they cannot even disable it afaik15:44
Some_Other_Guyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allwinner_A1X15:46
Some_Other_Guyloooool it even has a CANbus interface, i didnt know that15:48
tgBot<dohbee> oh15:49
tgBot<dohbee> well you can probably build an image to flash on it i guess15:49
Some_Other_Guyis there any good instructions for generic devices like this? to get an image going with internal LCD working etc?15:50
Some_Other_Guyi guess i should get linux working in general on it first and then see if its possible to get touch working, its just an old thing i have lying around anyway, seemed good to try out UT15:53
tgBot<dohbee> does the device run android?15:55
Some_Other_Guydohbee, yep it does, and additionally i can boot debian with TV out, i did not have a USB host cable at hand so i could not test USB functionality or log in16:10
Some_Other_Guyi tried this like a year ago some time, but i can redownload the same image16:11
Some_Other_GuyOTG cable i mean16:14
Some_Other_Guydohbee, if you are asking because of this dual boot app, the device can boot from usb or even sd card without a problem on its own :) (it does so by default even iirc, no button combination!)16:17
Some_Other_Guyits also rooted out of the box lol...16:18
tgBot<Seumas> @milkor73  you are wrong, I got the 64GB model and as I've said multiple times before I got the turbo image running on it pretty much fine (hence I call it turbo plus).16:52
Some_Other_Guydoesnt mean all of them work, there could be multiple hw revisions or something16:54
tgBot<wayneoutthere> @Seumas, @milkor73 is never wrong.  You must have mistaken him with someone else17:14
tgBot<Georgecloon> Thanks for putting 100balls in the OpenStore, @sverzegnassi17:30
tgBot<Javacookies> (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/xafx9iaK/file_2944.jpg17:45
tgBot<Javacookies> look I was able to stretch my battery on my Nexus 5 😝17:45
tgBot<DanChapman> Extended battery life for you then!17:46
tgBot<mariogrip> @Javacookies, I have seen then when i use desktop mode, did you do the same or is this new?17:50
tgBot<dohbee> how did you even manage to do that17:52
tgBot<Allexxander> Ь. Боль глосс ссуд лорд столь щлшод.  Ь.то.  шол от тррсшл шт. Лть. Сллилсльскль. Тлслл со билль отдал дллдлшть.  Шь.  Шдо лльрлллльдмь сшмб лльт шллтьшвабщ Солидлл.  штс.   Щмь.  Отца бкк.17:56
tgBot<Allexxander> Fwd from Сергей Линс: +17:56
tgBot<Javacookies> yeah, that happened when I removed it from my monitor17:56
tgBot<dohbee> ah, so a weird thing in unity8 presumably17:57
tgBot<dohbee> ie, a bug in u8 itself, not in the indicator17:58
tgBot<Javacookies> well it seems that scaling is quite buggy even before when using desktop mode17:59
tgBot<mateosalta> Oh dear, just wiped out my hosts file - anyone have the default lines at the top so the sdk can connect17:59
tgBot<mariogrip> ```127.0.0.1  localhost … 127.0.1.1  [HOST NAME FOR YOUR LAPTOP] … # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts … ::1     ip6-localhost ip6-loopback … fe00::0 ip6-localnet … ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix … ff02::1 ip6-allnodes … ff02::2 ip6-allrouters```18:00
tgBot<mariogrip> @mateosalta, ^18:00
tgBot<mateosalta> Is that the one on the phone18:01
tgBot<dohbee> hostname on the phone is phablet18:01
tgBot<mariogrip> no, but should be the same18:01
tgBot<dohbee> but otherwise, it's the same as on any other ubuntu install18:01
tgBot<mateosalta> Nice18:01
tgBot<mateosalta> ubuntu-phablet18:12
tgBot<mateosalta> Updated the adblocking and accidently nuked it ;p18:13
tgBot<Javacookies> BTW, onscreen touchpad doesn't seem to work on Nexus 518:16
tgBot<Javacookies> and external display/desktop mode already works fine on 16.04 😍18:16
tgBot<dohbee> adblocking by screwing with /etc/hosts always seemed like a horrible idea to me18:18
tgBot<Seumas> AFAIK there is only the 32GB and 64GB versions, not really much in the way of HW revisions beyond that. Converting the 64GB version from Flyme to Ubuntu Touch is a rare but confirmed use case and has been that way since an adventurous dude tried it out in the Canonical days.18:37
tgBot<mateosalta> I think there was a European and Chinese ones, I had quite a hard time getting Ubuntu on my mx5 pro18:41
tgBot<dohbee> there's intl and chinese domestic variants18:41
tgBot<dohbee> you need the intl one, to flash ubuntu on18:42
tgBot<mateosalta> Think I had a Chinese one then18:47
tgBot<mateosalta> https://forum.xda-developers.com/meizu-pro-5/how-to/tutorial-unlock-bootloader-meizu-pro-5-t3303127/page3/amp/18:48
tgBot<dohbee> oh you probably had the mx5 pro, and not the pro 518:49
tgBot<dohbee> which are just different phones. not the same as chinese vs intl pro 518:49
tgBot<mateosalta> Strange18:49
tgBot<mateosalta> Still managed to install Ubuntu somehow18:50
tgBot<dohbee> what was the device name?18:50
tgBot<mateosalta> On the back 'pro5 td-lte'18:51
tgBot<dohbee> i mean according to adb18:51
tgBot<dohbee> the codename18:51
tgBot<dohbee> oh there is no "mx5 pro"18:51
tgBot<dohbee> there is mx5, mx5e, pro5, mx4, and mx4 pro18:52
tgBot<dohbee> man their product naming scheme sucks :)18:52
tgBot<wayneoutthere> @Allexxander, +218:55
tgBot<mateosalta> device usb:3-2 product:Pro5 Ubuntu Edition model:Pro5_Ubuntu_Edition device:turbo but only because I flashed it, I think it was a chinese one because of the serial, and had to mess around flashing diffrent android versions to even unlock it18:55
tgBot<mateosalta> then had to manually do something to the recovery so it could upgrade, like upgrading gzip18:56
tgBot<dohbee> i am not sure the chinese one is flashable at all18:56
tgBot<dohbee> ie you can't unlock the bootloader so no way to flash different android versions18:57
tgBot<mateosalta> I think you had to trick it to "upgraede" to a developer leeked version that then you could mess with18:58
tgBot<mateosalta> so if you bought one that was already upgraded then yes, you couldn't flash it18:58
tgBot<vanyasem> @Allexxander, ugh. have you already started celebrating New Year?19:37
tgBot<vanyasem> it's a bit too early to get wasted with Vodka..19:37
tgBot<Seannyboy> Dare i suggest Irish whiskey :)19:39
tgBot<rémus Rome> I dont understand how telegram work un der ubuntutouch19:42
tgBot<vanyasem> @Seannyboy, we are both Russians 🤷‍♂19:50
tgBot<vanyasem> trying to be stereotypical here19:50
tgBot<Seumas> Hi guys, having more storage problems. I think it's because I run videos on VLC and perhaps it copies the file to some obscure location and clogs up remaining space? How can I triage this?19:53
tgBot<Stereofont> @rémus Rome, Join the Welcome Room? We will try to answer any questions19:57
tgBot<vanyasem> @mateosalta, ```#<ip-address>   <hostname.domain.org>   <hostname> … 127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost … ::1             localhost.localdomain   localhost … 127.0.1.1       [HOST NAME FOR YOUR LAPTOP].localdomian [HOST NAME FOR YOUR LAPTOP] … # End of file```20:00
tgBot<vanyasem> i vote for this one20:00
tgBot<Seannyboy> @vanyasem, No excuse not to try new things :)20:05
tgBot<Seumas> This problem makes me tempted to load video files into /tmp/ first to bypass the  possible "phantom paste into random location without user authorization" problem. And yes they would have to be reasonably size videos to not overload the RAM.20:05
tgBot<vanyasem> i don't want to discuss alcohol in a ubports supergroup ;) that was just a one-line joke. but thank you20:06
tgBot<Seumas> *sized20:06
tgBot<Seannyboy> Agreed20:06
tgBot<Seumas> UT Tweak Tool claims Dekko 2 has a cache size of 64.18GB... what is this hocus pocus?!20:35
tgBot<Seumas> Surely an error where it meant to read 64.18MB?20:36
tgBot<DanChapman> Yeah that's no where near correct. 😆 You can confirm using du20:38
tgBot<Seumas> (Photo, 1280x800) https://irc.ubports.com/N4oMRMPc/file_2946.jpg20:39
tgBot<DanChapman> I see the same and UT Tweak Tool hangs for quite a while when trying to open dekko's details view20:40
tgBot<Michele> @DanChapman, I thought also another thing regarding dekko 2... if I want to delete the chace in general because it's too big, how can I do if if just deleting the directory will mess up my accounts?20:42
tgBotI Franci was added by: I Franci20:45
tgBot<I Franci> Hello! There is a way to come back to android after Ubuntu? I'm on a nexus 520:46
tgBot<DanChapman> @Michele, You can't as the maistore files and database are tightly coupled so you can't just delete one without the other. The only way to manage the cache size is from code and asking dekkod to clear messages older than or clear all messages for X account etc20:47
tgBot<Michele> ah ok, so to delete the cache in general I just need to don't touch the dekko dir?20:48
tgBot<DanChapman> That's correct20:49
tgBot<Michele> thank you20:50
tgBot<kristijantkalec> @DanChapman I have some issues with dekko220:51
tgBot<Tina119> @Stereofont, How  do?20:51
tgBot<kristijantkalec> It doesn't show any mails in inbox20:52
tgBot<kristijantkalec> Just in folder 'today'20:52
tgBot<peternerlich> @Tina119, Via the link provided in https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome20:52
tgBot<kristijantkalec> Is that a known issue?20:52
tgBot<Tina119> @peternerlich, Thanks … If there is a better page in Chinese or multiple languages😊20:55
tgBot<DanChapman> @kristijantkalec https://gitlab.com/dekkoproject/dekko/issues/66 is the issue. You should still be able to access the Inbox etc from the folder view. It's just the setup process failed detecting the standard folders to be able to merge them into the top navigation section20:55
tgBot<kristijantkalec> Ok, thanks20:56
tgBot<kristijantkalec> Don't want to be inpatient, but do you maybe know when the 0.1.4 will arrive? :)21:04
tgBot<PhoenixLandPirate> @Seumas, That's a lot of mail21:06
tgBot<peternerlich> Welcome I Franci in our Supergroup! Please start by reading https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome, if you didn't already. I'm sorry, I cannot confidently answer your question, but I'm pretty sure it should be possible. Feel free to ask any questions in the Newcomers Room, especially.21:10
tgBot<Crash_Burn> @I Franci, https://docs.ubuntu.com/phone/en/devices/reinstalling-android21:19
tgBot<I Franci> Thanks!21:22
tgBot<I Franci> I'm sad. Neither Ubports installer nor CPT recognize my nexus 5 :(21:44
tgBot<peternerlich> @I Franci, Hm, I remember hearing something about sometimes missing `udev` rules21:47
tgBot<gab11010> Hi, short question:  I´m installing ubports in a nexus 5 via UBports installer.  udev rules are working fine, it donwload the files but stops pushing files to phone. "Pushing file 1 of 13". Console shows: ""error: Devices: Adb push error:  info: Adb push, 0% left". Do you have any clue?22:11
tgBot<gab11010> @I Franci, try the udev trick. it worked for mine. https://github.com/ubports/ubports-installer#troubleshooting22:12
tgBot<malditobastardo> Its just me or is how the volume works now but it looks like there is no separated settings for the headphones volume and general phone volume. Because when I am listening to some music using my headphones I put it most of the times very low but after I unplug the headphones, the phone volume remains low. And viceversa22:17
tgBot<malditobastardo> The viceversa thingy can be a problem because if you have the phone volume high to hear calls, messages etc and then plug the headphones, the high volume often hurts, and you have to pay attention22:19
tgBot<malditobastardo> Well... and the last about the high volume notification thing.. I know this was already commented in the launchpad from canonical and in the ubports github. https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/32622:21
tgBot<malditobastardo> The message warning is still very confusing and dangerous to manage22:21
tgBot<Jimmy_T> Thanks for the work on the updated Telegram app @Flohack and everybody else who helped with development and testing etc. looks good.22:24
tgBot<Flohack> @gab11010, Can it be your storage is full? Was Android installed before?22:25
tgBot<Flohack> @I Franci, Which operating system do you use?22:26
tgBot<gab11010> I bought it 2 hand today, Android just reinstalled on it and 12Gb free space22:26
tgBot<Flohack> Interesting. What recovery is installed? Stock?22:27
tgBot<gab11010> no idea ...how can I see that, just reboot?22:28
tgBot<wayneoutthere> @I Franci, sounds like a USA passport! :(22:29
tgBot<Flohack> @gab11010, adb reboot recovery22:29
tgBot<wayneoutthere> meh.. deletes.  nothing valid to say22:29
tgBot<Flohack> type as is22:29
tgBot<Tina119> 😂22:30
tgBot<gab11010> @Flohack, right now stuck in a black google screen with a lock icon22:33
tgBot<Crash_Burn> @gab11010, Its stuck in a re-boot... try holding the power button and the volume down button together until it reboots.22:35
tgBot<Tina119> @wayneoutthere, Why like a USA passport?🙃22:35
tgBot<gab11010> @Crash_Burn, thanks! it worked22:36
tgBot<wayneoutthere> @Tina119, it was poor taste political humour which I don't even find humourous so I deleted it.  "His device is not recognized" so I said "Like a USA passport" ha-ha-ha-... ha........................ok, no ha22:36
tgBot<gab11010> @Flohack, Ubports Recovery22:37
tgBot<Flohack> @gab11010, hmm mabye no recovery is installed or it was destroyed by the installer 😆22:37
tgBot<Flohack> Ah ok22:37
tgBot<Flohack> So this was pushed successfully22:37
tgBot<Tina119> @wayneoutthere, 😂😂😂😂22:38
tgBot<Flohack> well sorry to say, no idea right now and also need to go bed ^^22:38
tgBot<gab11010> I have a menu, with a few options:....22:38
tgBot<gab11010> thanks a lot florian, I will try for a bit more and also go to bed. tomorrow more22:38
tgBot<vanyasem> my father I a hypebeast22:39
tgBot<vanyasem> wrong group22:39
tgBot<vanyasem> oops22:39
tgBot<Crash_Burn> @gab11010, can you try the ubuntu-device-flash command from Recovery?22:39
tgBot<Tina119> @wayneoutthere, Maybe “Like a Chinese passport “.....😂22:39
tgBot<Crash_Burn> @gab11010, https://devices.ubports.com/#/hammerhead … listed at the bottom of page.22:40
tgBot<Crash_Burn> ``sudo ubuntu-device-flash —server=http://system-image.ubports.com touch —device=hammerhead \ … —channel=15.04/stable``22:40
tgBot<Crash_Burn> without the —bootstrap option.. .since you already have ubports recovery.22:40
tgBot<gab11010> @Crash_Burn, I give a try, on sec22:41
tgBot<Crash_Burn> My N5 just showed up... and I"m about to run the same command.22:41
tgBot<Crash_Burn> Just playing around with Android before I destroy it :) and feel oh so good about it!  lol22:42
tgBot<Flohack> Now that @mariogrip fixed the wakeup button press on N5 ist actually really fun to use! Arrigato!22:43
tgBot<nfsprodriver> Still got not rid to touch the screen while it's already lighten up 😂22:45
tgBot<Crash_Burn> @Flohack, Will this cause more butt dials?? :P22:45
tgBot<Flohack> @nfsprodriver, 😂😂😂22:45
tgBot<Stereofont> @I Franci, I am confident we can sort out you problem. Best thing is to join the Welcome Room22:50
tgBot<Tina119> (Sticker, 465x512) https://irc.ubports.com/c00W5dsQ/file_294722:52
tgBot<wayneoutthere> @Crash_Burn, "I pocketed you"23:07
tgBot<I Franci> Guy, is it normal for telegram to ask for Ubuntu one account?23:12
tgBot<wayneoutthere> In our fun little UBports Cloud group (https://t.me/UBports_Cloudsters) we noticed that there seems to be no way to delete a Nextcloud calendar after you set it up... this... may... be problematic.  Any thoughts/suggestions?  Thanks!23:12
tgBot<Stereofont> @I Franci, It is only if you want notifications. At the moment it is used as a check by our new server. You can ignore it and telegram will work without notifications23:15
tgBot<I Franci> OK!23:15
tgBot<TronFortyTwo> @wayneoutthere, reflash?23:16
tgBot<TronFortyTwo> 😁23:16
tgBot<Stereofont> @I Franci, You now have Ubuntu Touch working?23:21
tgBot<I Franci> Yes23:22
tgBot<I Franci> Before I was using a windows machine with no luck23:22
tgBot<I Franci> So I tried with my laptop (fedora 27 with dab installed) using the ubports installer appimage.23:24
tgBot<I Franci> Adb*23:24
tgBot<I Franci> It's beautiful :D23:25
tgBot<wayneoutthere> @TronFortyTwo, haha.  how about a 'delete account' option?  that would be nice.  Slide, trashcan... :(23:25
tgBot<Seumas> Mmm indeed we don't usually associate Windows with serendipity.23:28
tgBot<I Franci> Lol23:32
tgBot<Stereofont> @I Franci, 🍓🍓🍓23:48

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