| cjwatson | I am not completely sure that LP forbids copying source+binaries from a PPA to the primary archive if you aren't an archive admin. I suspect it doesn't actually forbid this but should. | 00:20 |
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| cjwatson | It should be possible to test on staging; the publisher won't run, but the copy job will (eventually). | 00:21 |
| cjwatson | (Tests that need the publisher to run need to be done on dogfood.paddev.net with assistance from an LP developer.) | 00:21 |
| tsimonq2 | cjwatson: As far as I remember, the only way to do that is through the CI Train. | 00:21 |
| tsimonq2 | Otherwise an archive admin is needed. | 00:21 |
| tsimonq2 | (And that sort of thing would be documented in the CI Train logs publicly anyways.) | 00:22 |
| cjwatson | tsimonq2: From code inspection I believe that you are mistaken, but feel free to prove me wrong. | 00:22 |
| cjwatson | (I think your understanding is how it *should* work, but ...) | 00:23 |
| tsimonq2 | Well, anybody with upload access can use the tool, but an archive admin has to approve it because it comes from a PPA. | 00:23 |
| tsimonq2 | (I remember this from when we had problems landing something with the CI Train so I asked Gianfranco to use copy-package and he needed to poke an archive admin.) | 00:24 |
| tsimonq2 | cjwatson: Maybe there's an edge case I'm not accounting for, but as far as I remember, that's how it works. | 00:25 |
| cjwatson | tsimonq2: I don't believe any of the above is true. | 00:26 |
| tsimonq2 | cjwatson: Which part of it? | 00:27 |
| cjwatson | tsimonq2: Any of the last three lines :) | 00:27 |
| cjwatson | Well, it's true that anyone with upload access can also copy. The rest is AFAIK false. | 00:27 |
| tsimonq2 | cjwatson: It would help if I could access staging.launchpad.net. ;P | 00:27 |
| cjwatson | There may have been some other reason that approval was required. | 00:27 |
| cjwatson | staging is always down at the weekend for restoration from a production dump. | 00:27 |
| cjwatson | It takes a couple of days. | 00:28 |
| tsimonq2 | Alright. | 00:28 |
| tsimonq2 | Will it be back tomorrow? | 00:28 |
| cjwatson | Hopefully. | 00:28 |
| tsimonq2 | Alright, I'll check back with you once it's back up and once I've tested this. | 00:28 |
| tsimonq2 | Any quirks I should be aware of when using staging for this sort of thing versus production? | 00:28 |
| tsimonq2 | (Publisher shouldn't be needed for this.) | 00:29 |
| cjwatson | LP staging uses SSO staging for auth, but otherwise not that I can immediately think of. Oh, you won't be able to build test packages to copy, so you'll have to pick something already built. | 00:30 |
| cjwatson | If it doesn't work you can always use dogfood instead. | 00:30 |
| tsimonq2 | I might actually just use dogfood so I have the ability to test rebuild a package in a PPA with Backports enabled. | 00:31 |
| tsimonq2 | cjwatson: How would I get copy-package to work with dogfood then? | 00:31 |
| cjwatson | -l dogfood | 00:32 |
| tsimonq2 | Alright. | 00:32 |
| cjwatson | As I say you may need dev assistance - a lot of the usual cron jobs don't always run. | 00:32 |
| tsimonq2 | Alright. | 00:32 |
| cjwatson | Upload processing runs frequently, as does the copier. The PPA publisher doesn't currently, but can. | 00:33 |
| cjwatson | https://paste.ubuntu.com/26205792/ (obviously substituting your username) works for uploads. | 00:33 |
| cjwatson | All details subject to change as dogfood is a developer playground. | 00:34 |
| tsimonq2 | Alright. | 00:34 |
| tsimonq2 | cjwatson: Is that for PPAs or archive uploads? | 00:34 |
| tsimonq2 | (Would it be the same with s/upload/ppa/ ?) | 00:34 |
| cjwatson | Keep the FQDN the same, but you can upload to any archive that you have access to that way - it takes an archive reference following dogfood-sftp: on the dput command line. | 00:36 |
| cjwatson | i.e. the same syntax that you see at the end of copy-package --help | 00:36 |
| tsimonq2 | Alright. | 00:36 |
| cjwatson | (Except possibly a leading "ppa:" might not work, I forget.) | 00:37 |
| tsimonq2 | I'll play with it. | 00:37 |
| tsimonq2 | cjwatson: Could you please let my packages build? :) | 00:42 |
| cjwatson | ? | 00:42 |
| cjwatson | That shouldn't block on us ... | 00:43 |
| cjwatson | Oh, conceivably all the builders are down | 00:43 |
| tsimonq2 | As far as I can tell, the Launchpad builders for several arches are on Manual. | 00:43 |
| cjwatson | We often use dogfood for testing new builder clouds and such. | 00:44 |
| tsimonq2 | Oh, I can see that. | 00:44 |
| cjwatson | I've turned on a couple. | 00:45 |
| cjwatson | Er, or not. | 00:45 |
| cjwatson | Now I have. | 00:45 |
| cjwatson | (You might find it less time-consuming to use smaller packages for testing things like copies, though ...) | 00:48 |
| tsimonq2 | (I did realize that after the fact, but oh well.) | 00:48 |
| tsimonq2 | s/realize/remember/ | 00:49 |
| tsimonq2 | cjwatson: Ftr, this is an example of a copy including binaries from a Bileto PPA: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtdeclarative-opensource-src/5.9.2-3ubuntu1/+publishinghistory | 01:01 |
| tsimonq2 | cjwatson: Looking back in logs, Gianfranco executed "./copy-package --from=ppa:ci-train-ppa-service/ubuntu/3020 --from-suite=bionic --to=ubuntu --to-suite=bionic-proposed --include-binaries qtdeclarative-opensource-src" | 01:01 |
| cjwatson | tsimonq2: That was held for approval simply because bionic wasn't fully open yet at that time. | 01:04 |
| cjwatson | Proves nothing much - all uploads were held for approval. | 01:04 |
| tsimonq2 | cjwatson: Oh, good point. | 01:04 |
| tsimonq2 | Er, wait... was it? | 01:04 |
| cjwatson | Ah, hm, I'm wrong. | 01:05 |
| tsimonq2 | Yep: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2017-October/001231.html | 01:05 |
| cjwatson | tsimonq2: So ... was it in fact held in unapproved? I see no mention of it in #ubuntu-release IRC logs around that time. | 01:10 |
| tsimonq2 | cjwatson: If I remember correctly, yes. | 01:11 |
| cjwatson | [2017-11-02 15:41:15,521: INFO/Worker-2] Running <PlainPackageCopyJob to copy package qtdeclarative-opensource-src from ~ci-train-ppa-service/ubuntu/3020, RELEASE pocket, in ubuntu bionic to ubuntu, PROPOSED pocket, in ubuntu bionic, including binaries> (ID 39344156) in status Waiting | 01:13 |
| cjwatson | [2017-11-02 15:41:21,426: DEBUG/Worker-2] Packages copied to Primary Archive for Ubuntu: | 01:13 |
| cjwatson | And in fact more clearly: | 01:13 |
| cjwatson | [2017-11-02 15:41:21,163: DEBUG/Worker-2] Subject: [ubuntu/bionic-proposed] qtdeclarative-opensource-src 5.9.2-3ubuntu1 (Accepted) | 01:13 |
| cjwatson | tsimonq2: This upload was not held for approval. | 01:13 |
| tsimonq2 | cjwatson: Could it be that CI Train PPA uploads are whitelisted? | 01:14 |
| cjwatson | tsimonq2: It is possible (even probable) that Bileto required an archive admin to sign it off, but that's it deliberately going over and above Launchpad's checks. | 01:14 |
| tsimonq2 | cjwatson: But isn't this intentional for the function of Bileto? | 01:15 |
| cjwatson | tsimonq2: Sure, Bileto has to run its copies with somewhat elevated privileges and thus has to do some checks itself first, but that mechanism wasn't used here. | 01:16 |
| cjwatson | tsimonq2: It looks like Gianfranco did the copy manually and thus bypassed Bileto's checks. | 01:17 |
| tsimonq2 | cjwatson: Hm, so this makes me wonder. When doing `./copy-package -l dogfood -s zesty --from=ppa:tsimonq2/ubuntu/testing-backports --to=ubuntu --to-suite=zesty-proposed vlc` I get "The signer of this package has no upload rights to this distribution's primary archive. Did you mean to upload to a PPA?" which makes me think that a proper mechanism *is* in place. | 01:17 |
| tsimonq2 | Er... | 01:18 |
| tsimonq2 | This database is from before I joined MOTU. | 01:18 |
| tsimonq2 | So that makes sense. | 01:18 |
| cjwatson | tsimonq2: There are checks that you're permitted to upload, but those checks don't include anything that cares about whether you used the --include-binaries flag, AFAICS. | 01:18 |
| cjwatson | That's all I'm saying here. | 01:18 |
| tsimonq2 | cjwatson: Right, so could you add me to MOTU on dogfood so I can try this one more time? (Unless I'm misunderstanding you here?) | 01:19 |
| cjwatson | Your test was wrong anyway, since you didn't use --include-binaries. | 01:19 |
| tsimonq2 | Right, and I've now included that. | 01:20 |
| cjwatson | tsimonq2: Added you to ~motu on DF | 01:21 |
| tsimonq2 | cjwatson: Oh, look: https://dogfood.paddev.net/ubuntu/zesty/+queue?queue_state=1 | 01:22 |
| tsimonq2 | So it does indeed show up as a sync in unapproved. | 01:22 |
| cjwatson | tsimonq2: Oh, look: https://dogfood.paddev.net/ubuntu/+series | 01:23 |
| cjwatson | zesty is CURRENT | 01:23 |
| cjwatson | you need to test artful | 01:23 |
| tsimonq2 | Indeed. | 01:23 |
| cjwatson | (otherwise you're just testing the "is this an SRU?" logic) | 01:24 |
| tsimonq2 | Gotcha. | 01:24 |
| * cjwatson -> bed | 01:24 | |
| tsimonq2 | o/ | 01:24 |
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| rlink | An SRU of mine was promoted from xenial-proposed to -updates, but was pulled after 10% propagation because of an end-user error report. I got an email with a link to the error report, but don't have authorization to see it. Filled out the form requesting access, and it's been pending for a week. Little help here? | 21:41 |
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