[15:20] <jrwren> greg-g: I really like this that someone put on your FB: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.en.html
[15:20] <jrwren> i don't think I've ever read this list.
[15:22] <rick_h> that's interesting, didn't expect to see "product" on there
[15:22] <Scary_Guy> I like GNU, I hate GNU culture because they're almost too crazy even for me
[15:25] <rick_h> well the things are thoughtful though. I spend a lot of time these days saying "that's not what you said, words have meaning for a reason" so I enjoy this kind of thing
[15:26] <jrwren> i like that they are out there. we need them out there in teh fringe with these crazy ida.
[15:26] <jrwren> ideas
[15:26] <jrwren> rick_h: oh my! you too? "you keep saying that word..."
[15:27] <rick_h> jrwren: :)
[15:27] <rick_h> words are fun and interesting
[15:27] <Scary_Guy> https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTtJEsOFipC7jo-TpalRdSq0egL7-M3wRzPNPW2hOtnqq4_4ic2 (sorry, apparently that server is down)
[15:28] <Scary_Guy> https://trisquel.info/files/lulz23423.png also lol
[15:29] <rick_h> I printed this out as I think it's really cool https://goo.gl/6ks1xH
[15:29] <Scary_Guy> Saw it on reddit, very neat :p
[15:29]  * rick_h needs to write one for "really" as well I guess
[15:30] <jrwren> that is why I use alpine linux.  no-gnu, no-systemd :p
[15:30] <Scary_Guy> I thought alpine had GNU?  weird
[15:35] <Scary_Guy> http://burntsushi.net/stuff/wtfpl-strip.jpg still great
[15:37] <jrwren> i dunno. i muscl gnu?
[15:37] <jrwren> muslc is mit, so I guess no gnu in alpine
[16:02] <cmaloney> TIL: You can order corprolite and a boot about corprolite on Amazon
[16:03] <cmaloney> book
[16:08]  * rick_h looks up what corprolite is
[16:08] <rick_h> ooohhhh
[16:08] <rick_h> what typo led you to discover this?
[16:09] <cmaloney> No typo
[16:09] <cmaloney> We're getting something for my brother-in-law's 40th birthday
[16:09] <cmaloney> aka older than dinosaur poop
[16:10] <cmaloney> ;)
[16:10] <cmaloney> Also every family function that my BiL is at devolves into poop talk so it's appropriate
[16:11] <rick_h> lol
[16:11] <cmaloney> even JoDee's dad's funeral had him talking about how he was mucking out their sump tank
[16:11] <cmaloney> or something... not sure on details
[16:15] <Scary_Guy> I moved around some monitors and switched one for a better one.  Now I'm getting "could not set configuration for CRTC" thrown at me for one of them.  anyone have any ideas?
[16:16] <Scary_Guy> looks like it may be a kernel issue :/
[16:58] <greg-g> jrwren: yeah, I haven't figured out how to respond yet :)
[17:00] <jrwren> greg-g: you dno't have to respond.
[17:00] <greg-g> BUT THERE WAS A LITTLE RED NOTIFICATION THING IN MY UI, AND IT GIVES ME ENDORPHINES
[17:01] <greg-g> I HAVE BEEN GAMIFIED
[17:01] <rick_h> greg-g: succumb to your base instincts!
[17:02] <cmaloney> heh
[17:02] <jrwren> delete the app that is owning you.
[17:02] <cmaloney> https://octodon.social/@craigmaloney/99196346565011265
[17:02] <jrwren> only run things which you own.
[17:02] <cmaloney> This is why I'm deleting my Twitter account
[17:03] <rick_h> greg-g: you still use instagram?
[17:04] <greg-g> rick_h: yeah
[17:04] <rick_h> greg-g: with following tags I've found following #vanlife interesting
[17:04] <cmaloney> You thinking of getting a van?
[17:04] <rick_h> greg-g: thought of you and your camper a little bit as it's more in line with the drive what you brought setup
[17:04] <rick_h> no, I couldn't get a van but I find it inspiring for getting out more
[17:05] <rick_h> I'm slowing pushing my wife to think more seriously about trying to spend extended time in the trailer on the road
[17:05] <greg-g> yeah, I subcribed to /r/vandwellers on reddit :)
[17:05] <rick_h> nice
[17:05] <cmaloney> Couldn't or Erica would have issues with that? :)
[17:06] <cmaloney> Honesdtly I think I could see you both out on the road doing three-week or longer trips
[17:06] <rick_h> greg-g: I follow this mtb'er and hannah has a sweet getaway van setup https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PrDyOIS97E
[17:06] <rick_h> I can, she can't/won't
[17:06] <cmaloney> yeah
[17:06] <rick_h> she works out of an office while I work from anywhere is the biggest thing. Well that and how to deal with michael/school
[17:06] <cmaloney> homeschool. :)
[17:07] <cmaloney> And she could do freelance doctor visits
[17:07] <rick_h> heh, so I'd never homeschool but we follow some YT folks that do an online school program thing
[17:07] <rick_h> and that is much more interesting
[17:07] <rick_h> well, for the dr thing each state needing a cert is the big issue
[17:07] <cmaloney> right
[17:07] <rick_h> they're working on a tele-medicine setup, but she can only see patience from MI
[17:07] <cmaloney> I'm partially talking out of my posterior
[17:07] <cmaloney> but cool that you're thinking along those lines
[17:08] <rick_h> trust me, I've poked at the problem a bit. the move now is to try to get her to let me just go once in a while. Like a work sprint
[17:08] <rick_h> I was supposed to have a guy's trip with michael this summer but hurt my knee and we had to bail
[17:08] <rick_h> I think that's the warm up to the idea
[17:09] <cmaloney> <3
[17:09] <cmaloney> Yeah, I remember you mentioning that
[17:12] <brousch> I work with a guy who toured the US for a year with his wife in a mobile tinyhouse
[17:13] <rick_h> these folks are really inspiring. He has a day job, they have 3 kids, and still make it work out. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEhJLsShZt8McryMf_DHLZQ
[17:18] <cmaloney> Kind of like minilamism but mixed with traveling.
[17:18] <cmaloney> Pretty neat.
[18:28] <brousch> I do also know someone with 4 kids who have lived from their RV (touring US, Central America) for several years http://homealongtheway.com/
[18:43] <greg-g> ya'll see this? https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/filing/1051157755251
[18:46] <cmaloney> IT'S COMING FROM INSIDE THE WHITEHOUSE!!!!
[18:52] <jrwren> LMAO
[18:52] <rick_h> greg-g: heh, that's a big one-up from all the dead person comments
[18:53] <rick_h> though tbh, I'd feel better if you could tell who did this. The good guys trying to make the bad guys look bad, or the bad guys just being stupid
[18:55] <cmaloney> yes
[18:56] <greg-g> oh, but the FCC won't allow that, they're blocking the investigation
[18:58] <cmaloney> Naturally
[18:58] <cmaloney> Honestly I expect this administration is a fetid piece of rotted putrefaction
[18:59] <cmaloney> Expect congress to vote in as much as they can before they graduate to lobbyist positions
[19:00] <cmaloney> and where they can throw barbs at those trying to make things better while blaming those who replace them with causing the damage
[19:00] <cmaloney> I'm starting to see a pattern in this behavior
[19:02] <jrwren> the current state of USA is soooo bad, that I'm starting to revise my equal disdain for Ds and Rs. Now there is slightly more disdain for Rs. That is not to say that I think that Ds are doing any good or helping, but only that Rs are doing even more harm than the Ds.
[19:03] <cmaloney> I find the Rs tend to be more sociopathic rather than corrupt
[19:04] <cmaloney> Ds are corrupt, Rs are sociopaths
[19:04] <cmaloney> Frankly I have yet to find a policital party that I agree with
[19:05] <cmaloney> I find Libertarians siciopathic as well (which is where the Rs are getting a lot of their ideology)
[19:06] <greg-g> the Rs are just better at politics too, see gerrymandering and basically ensuring their continued power no matter the will of the people
[19:07] <cmaloney> greg-g: Yeah...
[20:29] <jrwren> kattni is presenting @mug? I'd come out for that, but I'll be at CES :(
[20:32] <cmaloney> Yeah, she'll be presenting about Circuit Python
[20:32] <cmaloney> CES? Bah.
[20:32] <cmaloney> Nobody cares about CES
[20:32] <jrwren> I agree, but we are launching a product there, so...
[20:32] <cmaloney> "It's a Bluetooth-enabled back-scratcher"
[20:33] <cmaloney> "With an app on your phone that can track how many times you scratch your back, where in your back you scratched, and the total distance"
[20:33] <jrwren> I'll link you to it in a few weeks. :p
[20:33] <cmaloney> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEfQFD0NMJQ
[20:34] <jrwren> actually... i already linked it here, its really just a press splash for that.
[20:35] <cmaloney> Specifically this part: https://youtu.be/oEfQFD0NMJQ?t=2m50s
[20:40] <brousch> cmaloney: Circuit Python eh? I'll try to put together a group to visit or watch the livestream from GR
[20:44] <cmaloney> Awesome
[20:45] <cmaloney> We'll try to make the livestream watchable. :)
[20:59] <jrwren> so close to -funroll-loops https://hannes.hauswedell.net/post/2017/12/09/fmv/
[21:07] <rick_h> jrwren: :)
[21:08] <jrwren>  given this, does it make sense to build your own nodejs, python, or whatever runtime, with compiler optimizations specifically targetting the amd64 CPU arch of your servers?
[21:17] <rick_h> jrwren: you're not?!
[21:18] <jrwren> rick_h: :)