Unit193 | I didn't help with that one. | 00:56 |
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knome | fun. | 01:22 |
Unit193 | Yeeep. | 01:23 |
tacocat | the colorful box drawing chars are a nice touch | 01:25 |
knome | all that effort and they didn't manage to highlight more people | 01:26 |
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flocculant | moderately annoying when your eyes are just acclimatising ... | 03:55 |
bluesabre | it... BURNS | 11:01 |
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-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-power-manager 1.6.1 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfce4-power-manager-1-6-1-released-tp50324.html (by Simon Steinbeiss) | 23:21 | |
bluesabre | Shew | 23:22 |
ochosi | this should make desktop users' lives much easier in 18.04 ^ | 23:22 |
bluesabre | Time to get that where folks can take it for a spin | 23:23 |
ochosi | now i'll either fix up systemload plugin so we can also ship that in our LTS or actually look into gtk-theme-config... | 23:23 |
ochosi | i'm a little afraid of systemload plugin though, i think it'll be a black hole and suck in a lot of time | 23:24 |
ochosi | lots of odd design choices from what i saw | 23:24 |
ochosi | but whatever | 23:24 |
bluesabre | Time to make it a bit more standard? | 23:27 |
ochosi | well there's the settings dialog | 23:31 |
ochosi | for one | 23:31 |
ochosi | and tbh it's also a bit odd that you don't just add individual plugins for each of the settings (cpu, mem, swap, uptime), that'd mean you could actually re-order them... | 23:32 |
ochosi | even if it remains the same plugin | 23:32 |
ochosi | but i remember endless discussions about a "generic monitoring plugin" that led nowhere | 23:32 |
ochosi | so i'll try not to sink my time into that | 23:32 |
ochosi | i'd rather fix up some other component | 23:33 |
ochosi | -settings needs some more love (gdbus port iirc, async collecting or caching of theme colors etc) | 23:33 |
bluesabre | re -settings, some issues with the color collecting, similar to the pains with gtk-theme-config | 23:34 |
bluesabre | I think I stopped experimenting with it since everything was the same color as my current theme | 23:35 |
ochosi | maybe we should simply drop it | 23:38 |
Unit193 | Define 'drop'? | 23:39 |
ochosi | the color preview in settings | 23:39 |
ochosi | alternatively you can create a homungous dialog that displays widgets in the themes' selection (i think i saw that sometime in unity or gnome) | 23:40 |
ochosi | but if parsing themes isn't reliable anymore, well, it's really not *that* important | 23:40 |
ochosi | just a nice-to-have | 23:40 |
Unit193 | Aha, thought you were talking about dropping gtk-theme-config too again. Nice. | 23:40 |
bluesabre | could probably make a script with python to do the magic with it | 23:41 |
bluesabre | Need to think about it again | 23:42 |
bluesabre | Anyhoo, gotta run now, bbl | 23:42 |
ochosi | Unit193: yeah, i'm still not convinced we'll be able to save it. but i think now it's mostly a question of rewriting the css and to some extent the application... | 23:43 |
ochosi | (gtk-theme-config this time) | 23:43 |
Unit193 | ochosi: And I'm just trying to make sure we fully take care of it, not just drop it from the seed (though yes fixing would be fantastic.) | 23:46 |
Unit193 | (Eg, if we can't maintain it, drop from seed, Ubuntu repos, Debian repos.) | 23:46 |
ochosi | sure, anything else wouldn't make sense | 23:47 |
ochosi | hope we can get to that decision soon enough | 23:47 |
bluesabre | I am inclined to agree that we should port it to python for future maintenance | 23:47 |
ochosi | or: we should give ourselves a deadline | 23:47 |
Unit193 | ochosi: FWIW, easier to push a new version than re-introduce. So if it passes the deadline, would we just drop from the seed? :P | 23:48 |
Unit193 | And while you're both here: Are we really going with introspection and glade support? That'd be an increasing delta to Debian. | 23:49 |
bluesabre | I'd much rather we decrease the delta to Debian | 23:50 |
ochosi | glade is quite helpful though | 23:50 |
bluesabre | If we are using these components in xubuntu, somebody is using them in debian | 23:50 |
Unit193 | ochosi: I can more easily live with glade than introspection. | 23:50 |
ochosi | hm, greping for :selected gives me about 150 lines in greybird... maybe it is do-able | 23:50 |
Unit193 | (So, WFM.) | 23:50 |
Unit193 | libxfce4util, libxfce4ui, garcon, exo(?), etc would all gather introspection delta. :3 | 23:51 |
bluesabre | Let's convince corsac to move with them | 23:52 |
bluesabre | Why *not* include development ready libraries? | 23:52 |
bluesabre | gotta run for real now | 23:53 |
ochosi | yup, ttyl | 23:53 |
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