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Unit193I didn't help with that one.00:56
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knomefun.01:22
Unit193Yeeep.01:23
tacocatthe colorful box drawing chars are a nice touch01:25
knomeall that effort and they didn't manage to highlight more people01:26
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flocculantmoderately annoying when your eyes are just acclimatising ...03:55
bluesabreit... BURNS11:01
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-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-power-manager 1.6.1 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfce4-power-manager-1-6-1-released-tp50324.html (by Simon Steinbeiss)23:21
bluesabreShew23:22
ochosithis should make desktop users' lives much easier in 18.04 ^23:22
bluesabreTime to get that where folks can take it for a spin23:23
ochosinow i'll either fix up systemload plugin so we can also ship that in our LTS or actually look into gtk-theme-config...23:23
ochosii'm a little afraid of systemload plugin though, i think it'll be a black hole and suck in a lot of time23:24
ochosilots of odd design choices from what i saw23:24
ochosibut whatever23:24
bluesabreTime to make it a bit more standard?23:27
ochosiwell there's the settings dialog23:31
ochosifor one23:31
ochosiand tbh it's also a bit odd that you don't just add individual plugins for each of the settings (cpu, mem, swap, uptime), that'd mean you could actually re-order them...23:32
ochosieven if it remains the same plugin23:32
ochosibut i remember endless discussions about a "generic monitoring plugin" that led nowhere23:32
ochosiso i'll try not to sink my time into that23:32
ochosii'd rather fix up some other component23:33
ochosi-settings needs some more love (gdbus port iirc, async collecting or caching of theme colors etc)23:33
bluesabrere -settings, some issues with the color collecting, similar to the pains with gtk-theme-config23:34
bluesabreI think I stopped experimenting with it since everything was the same color as my current theme23:35
ochosimaybe we should simply drop it23:38
Unit193Define 'drop'?23:39
ochosithe color preview in settings23:39
ochosialternatively you can create a homungous dialog that displays widgets in the themes' selection (i think i saw that sometime in unity or gnome)23:40
ochosibut if parsing themes isn't reliable anymore, well, it's really not *that* important23:40
ochosijust a nice-to-have23:40
Unit193Aha, thought you were talking about dropping gtk-theme-config too again. Nice.23:40
bluesabrecould probably make a script with python to do the magic with it23:41
bluesabreNeed to think about it again23:42
bluesabreAnyhoo, gotta run now, bbl23:42
ochosiUnit193: yeah, i'm still not convinced we'll be able to save it. but i think now it's mostly a question of rewriting the css and to some extent the application...23:43
ochosi(gtk-theme-config this time)23:43
Unit193ochosi: And I'm just trying to make sure we fully take care of it, not just drop it from the seed (though yes fixing would be fantastic.)23:46
Unit193(Eg, if we can't maintain it, drop from seed, Ubuntu repos, Debian repos.)23:46
ochosisure, anything else wouldn't make sense23:47
ochosihope we can get to that decision soon enough23:47
bluesabreI am inclined to agree that we should port it to python for future maintenance23:47
ochosior: we should give ourselves a deadline23:47
Unit193ochosi: FWIW, easier to push a new version than re-introduce.  So if it passes the deadline, would we just drop from the seed? :P23:48
Unit193And while you're both here: Are we really going with introspection and glade support?  That'd be an increasing delta to Debian.23:49
bluesabreI'd much rather we decrease the delta to Debian23:50
ochosiglade is quite helpful though23:50
bluesabreIf we are using these components in xubuntu, somebody is using them in debian23:50
Unit193ochosi: I can more easily live with glade than introspection.23:50
ochosihm, greping for :selected gives me about 150 lines in greybird... maybe it is do-able23:50
Unit193(So, WFM.)23:50
Unit193libxfce4util, libxfce4ui, garcon, exo(?), etc would all gather introspection delta. :323:51
bluesabreLet's convince corsac to move with them23:52
bluesabreWhy *not* include development ready libraries?23:52
bluesabregotta run for real now23:53
ochosiyup, ttyl23:53

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