| ahoneybun | if I can | 00:13 |
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| ahoneybun | If I can't be around for tsimonq2 's meeting it's a no from me | 00:13 |
| IrcsomeBot | <tsimonq2> Speaking of meetings: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2017-December/011497.html | 00:15 |
| ahoneybun | tsimonq2: refering to your developer application | 00:15 |
| tsimonq2 | ahoneybun: I thought the KC as a whole got a half a vote, right? | 00:16 |
| ahoneybun | not sure | 00:17 |
| ahoneybun | just a no from me if it matters | 00:17 |
| ahoneybun | though we only have acheronuk currently | 00:17 |
| tsimonq2 | Why "no"? | 00:17 |
| ahoneybun | Your very bad with what git access you have | 00:18 |
| ahoneybun | I don't trust you with even what you have, worse with more | 00:18 |
| tsimonq2 | How so? | 00:18 |
| wxl | correct me if i'm wrong, but this is not about git access? | 00:18 |
| tsimonq2 | And I already have some archive access | 00:19 |
| ahoneybun | How about the 3 times you did something bad to get it removed and then pushing another bad move | 00:19 |
| tsimonq2 | That hasn't happened for... a year now? | 00:19 |
| tsimonq2 | 9 months? | 00:19 |
| ahoneybun | wxl: it's all about access | 00:19 |
| wxl | ahoneybun: access to uploads, yes. not about git, though. | 00:19 |
| tsimonq2 | ahoneybun: Do you know the difference between MOTU and KD? | 00:19 |
| ahoneybun | tsimonq2: yep | 00:20 |
| ahoneybun | it's bad enough you have MOTD tbh | 00:20 |
| tsimonq2 | ahoneybun: Then what is it? | 00:20 |
| ahoneybun | tbh I | 00:20 |
| ahoneybun | tbh I'm pissed with a lot of stuff that has been going on around here | 00:20 |
| ahoneybun | the disrepect I see in here between you and clivejo. It's just bad | 00:21 |
| tsimonq2 | That's irrelevant in respect to technical merit. | 00:21 |
| valorie | since I've just sent you an email tsimonq2, I will refrain from commenting here | 00:21 |
| valorie | but I disagree that it has nothing to do with technical merit | 00:22 |
| tsimonq2 | ack | 00:22 |
| ahoneybun | I'm a bit close to pulling out all my limited effort | 00:25 |
| valorie | :( | 00:27 |
| valorie | I hope you won't, ahoneybun | 00:27 |
| valorie | any hope of you coming to LFNW? | 00:27 |
| ahoneybun | I'm just getting tired of people doing f*cked up stuff to each other and the disrepect | 00:28 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: maybe not sure yet | 00:28 |
| ahoneybun | someone was talking about it here at the office | 00:28 |
| wxl | what other people are you referring to? | 00:28 |
| valorie | well, that is very true for me as well | 00:28 |
| ahoneybun | wxl: really want me to name them? | 00:28 |
| valorie | we're all worthy of respect | 00:28 |
| wxl | why not? if you're already airing your feelings you might as well put them all out on the table | 00:29 |
| valorie | and it just pains me to see people leave | 00:29 |
| ahoneybun | I've heard that people are aiming to remove membership of another member | 00:29 |
| valorie | what? | 00:30 |
| tsimonq2 | I don't have anything against Clive, but I'll call stuff when I see it... | 00:31 |
| ahoneybun | I heard it was 2 people in here working on it. Not sure of the truth | 00:31 |
| ahoneybun | not talking about clive | 00:31 |
| tsimonq2 | ...what? | 00:31 |
| tsimonq2 | Tell me, am I involved in this at all? | 00:31 |
| valorie | Clive removed himself, unfortunately | 00:32 |
| ahoneybun | nope | 00:32 |
| ahoneybun | tsimonq2: yep | 00:32 |
| valorie | I don't want to lost *any* members | 00:32 |
| tsimonq2 | ahoneybun: If you're going to say something, say it. Please, don't dance around it. | 00:32 |
| valorie | nor any developers | 00:32 |
| valorie | I don't want to lose any contributions | 00:33 |
| ahoneybun | I believe that you are working on removing santa's membership. You bad mouth something he does and then do the same thing | 00:33 |
| tsimonq2 | That's simply not true. | 00:34 |
| valorie | I would never go along with such a thing | 00:34 |
| valorie | I've been urging him to get more involved *for years* | 00:35 |
| valorie | we can all get along and work together | 00:35 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: I know, did not say you were doing it at all | 00:35 |
| valorie | it just takes mutual respect and the decision to treat one another professionally No Matter What | 00:36 |
| ahoneybun | I believe that is not happening. | 00:37 |
| valorie | not enough, I agree | 00:39 |
| valorie | sometimes, but not all the time | 00:39 |
| valorie | this has actually been quite distressing, but it makes me determined to improve the situation if I can | 00:50 |
| wxl | nothing's going to get better if we run away from it | 00:54 |
| valorie | amen to that | 00:56 |
| wxl | change is uncomfortable and so is fighting for what is right, but if no one does it, it doesn't get better | 00:56 |
| valorie | which is why I don't want people to leave because they are unhappy | 00:56 |
| wxl | that said, i'm not sure you should hoist that particular burden on your shoulders, ahoneybun, but be patient while those that do (thank you valorie) make it happen | 00:57 |
| valorie | we need the criticism as well as the praise | 00:57 |
| wxl | has anyone here NOT seen the new star wars? | 00:57 |
| valorie | me | 00:57 |
| wxl | aw heck | 00:57 |
| valorie | :( | 00:57 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: Yes please don't spoil it | 00:57 |
| wxl | well, go see it. there's a certain jedi master that makes a comment along the lines of what valorie just said | 00:57 |
| tsimonq2 | (I'm not ignoring y'all, I'm call screening for http://www.asknoahshow.com/ ) | 00:58 |
| valorie | want to see it soon I do | 00:59 |
| wxl | yes, that one :) | 00:59 |
| wxl | one thing i do suggest is to watch the third of the first movies before seeing this one | 01:01 |
| valorie | interesting | 01:01 |
| valorie | I mean, I've seen them all, at least once | 01:01 |
| valorie | not clone wars or whatever | 01:01 |
| valorie | off to dinner | 01:01 |
| wxl | ta | 01:01 |
| valorie | ahoneybun: are you up for being the contact person on the website? | 23:26 |
| valorie | Michael Tunnel in -devel said: on the Contact page it says "For comments and other issues with this website contact Jonathan Riddell jriddell@ubuntu.com or Ovidiu-Florin BOGDAN ovidiu-florin@kubuntu.org" | 23:26 |
| valorie | jr is a bit outdated! | 23:27 |
| valorie | "he is also the English speaking press contact person on the page" | 23:27 |
| valorie | or we could ask Rick | 23:27 |
| wxl | why not just make it kc? | 23:28 |
| ahoneybun | Where? | 23:34 |
| valorie | oh, good idea | 23:38 |
| valorie | contact page, ahoneybun | 23:38 |
| wxl | yeah but someone still has to get the contact page XD | 23:38 |
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