[00:13] if I can [00:13] If I can't be around for tsimonq2 's meeting it's a no from me [00:15] Speaking of meetings: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2017-December/011497.html [00:15] tsimonq2: refering to your developer application [00:16] ahoneybun: I thought the KC as a whole got a half a vote, right? [00:17] not sure [00:17] just a no from me if it matters [00:17] though we only have acheronuk currently [00:17] Why "no"? [00:18] Your very bad with what git access you have [00:18] I don't trust you with even what you have, worse with more [00:18] How so? [00:18] correct me if i'm wrong, but this is not about git access? [00:19] And I already have some archive access [00:19] How about the 3 times you did something bad to get it removed and then pushing another bad move [00:19] That hasn't happened for... a year now? [00:19] 9 months? [00:19] wxl: it's all about access [00:19] ahoneybun: access to uploads, yes. not about git, though. [00:19] ahoneybun: Do you know the difference between MOTU and KD? [00:20] tsimonq2: yep [00:20] it's bad enough you have MOTD tbh [00:20] ahoneybun: Then what is it? [00:20] tbh I [00:20] tbh I'm pissed with a lot of stuff that has been going on around here [00:21] the disrepect I see in here between you and clivejo. It's just bad [00:21] That's irrelevant in respect to technical merit. [00:21] since I've just sent you an email tsimonq2, I will refrain from commenting here [00:22] but I disagree that it has nothing to do with technical merit [00:22] ack [00:25] I'm a bit close to pulling out all my limited effort [00:27] :( [00:27] I hope you won't, ahoneybun [00:27] any hope of you coming to LFNW? [00:28] I'm just getting tired of people doing f*cked up stuff to each other and the disrepect [00:28] valorie: maybe not sure yet [00:28] someone was talking about it here at the office [00:28] what other people are you referring to? [00:28] well, that is very true for me as well [00:28] wxl: really want me to name them? [00:28] we're all worthy of respect [00:29] why not? if you're already airing your feelings you might as well put them all out on the table [00:29] and it just pains me to see people leave [00:29] I've heard that people are aiming to remove membership of another member [00:30] what? [00:31] I don't have anything against Clive, but I'll call stuff when I see it... [00:31] I heard it was 2 people in here working on it. Not sure of the truth [00:31] not talking about clive [00:31] ...what? [00:31] Tell me, am I involved in this at all? [00:32] Clive removed himself, unfortunately [00:32] nope [00:32] tsimonq2: yep [00:32] I don't want to lost *any* members [00:32] ahoneybun: If you're going to say something, say it. Please, don't dance around it. [00:32] nor any developers [00:33] I don't want to lose any contributions [00:33] I believe that you are working on removing santa's membership. You bad mouth something he does and then do the same thing [00:34] That's simply not true. [00:34] I would never go along with such a thing [00:35] I've been urging him to get more involved *for years* [00:35] we can all get along and work together [00:35] valorie: I know, did not say you were doing it at all [00:36] it just takes mutual respect and the decision to treat one another professionally No Matter What [00:37] I believe that is not happening. [00:39] not enough, I agree [00:39] sometimes, but not all the time [00:50] this has actually been quite distressing, but it makes me determined to improve the situation if I can [00:54] nothing's going to get better if we run away from it [00:56] amen to that [00:56] change is uncomfortable and so is fighting for what is right, but if no one does it, it doesn't get better [00:56] which is why I don't want people to leave because they are unhappy [00:57] that said, i'm not sure you should hoist that particular burden on your shoulders, ahoneybun, but be patient while those that do (thank you valorie) make it happen [00:57] we need the criticism as well as the praise [00:57] has anyone here NOT seen the new star wars? [00:57] me [00:57] aw heck [00:57] :( [00:57] wxl: Yes please don't spoil it [00:57] well, go see it. there's a certain jedi master that makes a comment along the lines of what valorie just said [00:58] (I'm not ignoring y'all, I'm call screening for http://www.asknoahshow.com/ ) [00:59] want to see it soon I do [00:59] yes, that one :) [01:01] one thing i do suggest is to watch the third of the first movies before seeing this one [01:01] interesting [01:01] I mean, I've seen them all, at least once [01:01] not clone wars or whatever [01:01] off to dinner [01:01] ta [23:26] ahoneybun: are you up for being the contact person on the website? [23:26] Michael Tunnel in -devel said: on the Contact page it says "For comments and other issues with this website contact Jonathan Riddell jriddell@ubuntu.com or Ovidiu-Florin BOGDAN ovidiu-florin@kubuntu.org" [23:27] jr is a bit outdated! [23:27] "he is also the English speaking press contact person on the page" [23:27] or we could ask Rick [23:28] why not just make it kc? [23:34] Where? [23:38] oh, good idea [23:38] contact page, ahoneybun [23:38] yeah but someone still has to get the contact page XD