[02:07] <valorie> retweeted a couple of things as Kubuntu
[02:52] <tsimonq2> valorie: Is Kubuntu planning on participating in Alpha 1?
[02:54] <mparillo> tsimonq2: I should be able to test installing ISOs (at least to VMs). P.S. On real HW, the Lubuntu-Next ISO does not show an install option.
[02:54] <mparillo> Haven't checked in a VM.
[02:54] <tsimonq2> mparillo: It's known. :)
[02:56] <valorie> tsimonq2: I think so?
[02:56] <valorie> should figure that out I guess
[02:56] <tsimonq2> valorie: Alright, no stress.
[02:57] <valorie> seems like things are kicking along
[02:57] <valorie> so I imagine so
 I've change our download page to match the message on the ubuntu one, discouaging 17.10 downloads until the lenevo bios curruption issue has been fixed
 Also added to release notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu#Incompatibility_with_BIOS_in_certain_Lenovo.2C_Acer_systems
 Also seriously wondering wthere to re-visit the idea of dropping PIM (or some of the worst parts of of it) from our defaults.
 For example, I have noticed a bit of an uptick in reports of issues with kmail in versions 17.08 and 17.12
 @acheronuk, +1
 Fwd from tsimonq2: 17.10 officially pulled from cdimage.ubuntu.com for all flavors.
 @acheronuk Please edit the downloads page and/or make a tweet or something
 @tsimonq2 Read up
 @acheronuk, Discouraging =/ them completely being unavailable. There's always that one guy... Lol
 It's a VERY strong form of discouragement :P
 OK :P
 @acheronuk @tsimonq2 link to the post about the issue?
 @ahoneybun, It's sort of obvious if you look at any news site that's covered it, there's a link to a bug somewhere...
 post? or bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1734147
 Here... https://is.gd/TAxKEl
 @acheronuk, Er, there.
 lol
 thanks
[21:42] <valorie> I did retweet the libuntu tweet last night from the kubuntu account
[21:43] <valorie> I guess I should stop seeding the torrents
[21:46] <valorie> that was most of the activity
[21:47] <valorie> acheronuk: thanks for your quick action on the website
[21:59] <acheronuk> valorie: glad I caught it
[22:00] <valorie> me too
[22:00] <valorie> I didn't think of that last night, at all
[22:00] <valorie> the release team seemed pretty casual about it last night
 I mean you can use the key to switch booting devices
 Not really
 Some laptops won't even boot up
 Others it's a minor issue
 It varies.
 it can't touch the BIOS to brink the machine tho
 You'd be surprised.
 It can and does.
 KC: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2017-December/011498.html
[22:16] <valorie> tsimonq2: is the bug present in bionic?
[22:17] <tsimonq2> valorie: Really good question. I think not...
[22:17] <tsimonq2> valorie: You might want to confirm.
[22:17]  * tsimonq2 is still getting caught up on emails etc...
[22:18] <valorie> hmmm, Friday
[22:18] <valorie> maybe I'll be able to at least listen in
 friday? ahh
[22:20] <tsimonq2> *Next* Friday.
[22:20] <tsimonq2> But yeah.
[22:20] <tsimonq2> It had the highest for-sure attendance rate for the Kubuntu Developers that responded.
[22:20] <tsimonq2> yofel: Good to see you submit a response, by the way. :)
[22:34] <acheronuk> Friday 29th I think
[22:34] <tsimonq2> Right.