 OTA-3 contains that fix
 @milkor73, Looks like encoding issue?
 @dohbee, You think? It’s just an ftp connection to a server
 Well look at the path
 Err, the .local domain even
 Sure, but it didn’t work in Connect to Server or FileZilla by entering ip only either
 The Quick Note app by Verzegnassi is good but if it would have nextcloud sync and it show in today scope will be better, like calendar app.
 Well I don't know the code, but I would start from the encoding to debug
 I’d be interested in hearing if it fails for others.
[01:03] <tgBot> luiski was added by: luiski
 @stuartlangridge, Wifitransfer works fine for me. Is there any specific scenario you want tested? ( I am on devel channel on an N5 connecting to filezilla client on Ubuntu desktop)
 @matv1, I don’t know. It works for me too; I’d like to know why it doesn’t work for @milkor73 :)
 allright @stuartlangridge. If you could, a respin with corrected font size some day would be great though ;)
 Agreed on the font size thing. :)
 I think one ofthe last framework updates by Canonical caused that fonts issue for older apps
 The tiny font is a bug. However, it should only apply to people who aren’t using the Ubuntu or File Mgr connections :)
 I’ll still fix it, though.
 great! and thanks for a still very usefull app
 Here is an off-topic secret that literally no-one probably knows.  Anyone who (was forced) to switch to Gnome may have had a really hard time or annoyance finding the suspend (pause) button.  Well... accidentally, I just discovered that if you PUSH & HOLD the power button it magically becomes a suspend button!!  High fives all around!
 that is actualy the smartest, most revolutionary function on any machine I've used.  Super clean/simple idea
 @wayneoutthere, it's configurable afaik
 with dconf or whatever gnome uses atm
 but yeah, neat idea. i used gnome for 40 minutes in my life and that was the first thing i noticed
 i couldn't stand it for an hour, hell i'm weak
 there were a lot of keyboard shortcut 'solutions' and my wife found a way to get it done but really bugged me
 try elementary OS if you are annoyed with Gnome
 it's based on Ubuntu and features a simmilar DE to Gnome. I call it "Gnome done right"
 i remember i already suggested it to you some time ago. it's really neat
 @vanyasem, i might....
 you really should, spin it in a VM when you get some spare time
 ok its 'on the list' (which is long) :)
 make sure to install it in a VM, not just "try it". not all functions are availiable in live mode
 @wayneoutthere, prioritize it!
 @vanyasem, roger
 @wayneoutthere, You mean Ivan?
 😂
 @wayneoutthere, have you left the OT chat
 i've sent a nice picture of elementary os there
 Guys. Just wondering. Where can I get a Meizu Pro 5 right now?
 I messed up 😂 Could someone give default sources.list file?
 @Dohxis, vivid?
 yeah
 https://pastebin.com/eBrmDMWu
 this is already fixed content for after Vivid reached OEL. You can update and isntall stuff on it right away.
 *EOL
 Thanks
 @wayneoutthere, I can support that! I'm running it as a daily driver on my laptop (don't have a pc) and it's GORGEOUS!
 @wayneoutthere, Except that you can't find it except by pure luck
 Undiscoverable is not good design
 Oh, I didn't even know of that way, I only remember holding shift
 I think it's pretty clever. I love it. :)
 Keeps things clean, yet still remains functional.
 Would be better if you could find it
 KDE does it better
 Only shows common options, and when you select one it starts a 30 second countdown with that option selected and also offering you to switch to suspend instead
 @Lorxu, I can find it. I did. :P
 @Lorxu, KDE does simple by default. Doesn't necessarily mean better,
 Well, not simple, more... Traditional.
 At least you can find it easily on KDE
 🤷‍♂️
 GNOME could be everything but still its more faster than Unity7 and for me thats a win win
 @Ferdieofficial, Take care. You need the International version, not the China version
 https://twitter.com/lanux_mage/status/943413278918762497
 @Seumas, DocViewer is not a preinstalled app, nor it was when it was still part of the Ubuntu Core Apps project. It takes a lot of space due to the inclusion of a minimal version of LibreOffice inside the .click package, in order to fulfill the requirements of the ODF viewer backend (which is LibreOfficeKit). With the next year, I'll try to merge back all the changes I was working on when I left the Core Apps team (I've been maintaing the offic
[09:49] <tgBot> DocViewer project since October 2014).
 On a sidenote, the DocViewer version available on OpenStore is 100% the version that used to be available on the Ubuntu Store. It's not "a fork of a fork of a core app", but it's the version from the UBports repos. I'm going to move the app ownership to the recently created "UBports Apps" account, to make it less ambiguous :)
 @sverzegnassi, 🎂📣🤗😍
 @sverzegnassi, Thanks for such a great app 👏👌
 @vanyasem, Ivan, I checked the site and it really looks gorgeous. Just one question aside though. This OS is based on Gnome, thus not on Unity 7 or 8 whatever it is...what about future fully working experience convergence with UT phone? The fact that it is based on Gnome, doesn't it mean that it could be eventually more difficult to make the phone and desktop speak each other properly? Sorry, maybe it is a silly question but just to be sure, because 
[10:12] <tgBot> interested to change Desktop OS but only if it is fully operational against UT. Thanks!
 @Matteo, the desktop environment is Pantheon
 it's neither Unity or Gnome
 it's Pantheon
 it's not an OS for phones though, so I have no idea why are you talking about convergence
 convergence is when your phone is a computer and you use an HDMI adapter and BT keyboard with it
 @vanyasem, That's clear, but convergence would be also intended sharing same apps. I was asking if Unity of UT talking to a different Desktop OS could raise issues, that's all. I'm not a developer so maybe I don't fully understand all the programming details here. From your answer I understand the UT Unity talking to Pantheon will be seamless.
 @vanyasem, I suppose there is an argument for convergence and desktop modes being similar, so that you get into same habits with both. Not because they are functionally connected
 X11 forwarding via ssh will work on any distro with X11
 if that's what you're talking about
[10:27] <tgBot> costales was added by: costales
 @costales, Hi costales!
 @Matteo, to be honest I have no idea what you're talking about
 @Flohack, Hi 😘
 one question please, links like scope://com.canonical.scopes.clickstore?q=unavapp are not working in the ubports, which is the recommendation to change them?
 @Matteo, anyways elementary is just Ubuntu 16.04 with some cosmetic changes. try it out, it should work
 I don't use Ubuntu at all, it's hard for me to tell
 @costales, Hey Marcos! I'd suggest you to invoke the OpenStore app, by linking to openstore://navigator.costales
 @sverzegnassi, Just that? Clever implementation! Thanks a lot 😃
 I JUST GOT MY FIRST PROPER TELEGRAM NOTIFICATION! 🎉🎉🎉 ALL HAIL @Flohack!!!
 haha thanks for the lowers. You never had them before?
 I don't think so, cannot remember clearly
 Thanks for the new Telegram Update! The reconnect after net loss is a blessing!
 at least not for the last months
 Well to ALL: on devel and rc you are live with the new push server and you will get all notifications now
 stable needs to be patient until tomorrow 😆
 Switched channel right now
 (→/praise_flohack← This command does nothing, so click it as much as you want to signal praise to Florian)
 lol
 hahahaha
 oh, self praise
 let's all take our time to appreciate @Flohack 's work
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/x9k4uhoN/file_2985.mp4
 @vanyasem, I got 3 devices here and they all chime when you mention me 😆
 print (" @Flohack is awesome")
 gratz, another victory on the legacy situation
 just 6-ish to go ;)
[11:19] <tgBot> saidinesh5 was added by: saidinesh5
 @saidinesh5, welcome
 thank you
 Hi @saidinesh5! I'm part of the welcoming team. Please take a moment to read https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome and feel free to ask any questions, especially in the Newcomers Room!
 (Y)
 @Flohack hello boss. I am in devel and still receiving notifications in telegram
 Great. I just read above
 Lol
 @malditobastardo, Yes sure its the opposite: stable lost them now until tomorrow
 Love you guys
 @malditobastardo, I think this is expected and a good sign. The server just got switched
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/TzsQSM0C/file_2986
 @stefanomelchior, I just received this telegram notification
 OTA3 is coming
 @Ferdieofficial, may I recommend:
 tinyurl.com/yd6e
 *   tinyurl.com/yd6sg4r9
 Forgive Tinyurl use, but for whatever reason I can't paste from the browser into telegram on MP5 (fix in OTA-3?).
 That's the best version of the phone, International version at a bargain price. Recommend the seller. You just need to wait a few days for delivery then move it from Flyme to Ubports.
 @Seumas, This one is 64 GB, will it work with the port? I thought it only supports 32 GB
 Seumas weren't you reporting problems with Wi-Fi and cellular radios?
 @Seumas, The paste thingy is a big issue indeed
 Don't want to start complaints but that just reminded me. One of my biggest user complaints is how poorly UT handles select-all, copy and paste. I do feel this will be a hard pill for many people coming from fruit and robot platforms.. I dont understand why that would be but I dont understand development
 Probably because no one has worked on it?
 But it you're willing to send some patches to make text selection better, we're happy to have them
 @Rawcode, Hes compiling his code, he's checking it twice, gonna find out if it's buggy or nice, OTA3 is coming... To town
 What is this? Someonenin turkish group found. How is it that we cant all just focus on one until its rocking and then flavour out from there? https://fossbytes.com/eelo-mobile-os-open-source-android-alternative/
 @UniversalSuperBox, My lip volcano is locked and loaded...
 @wayneoutthere, Reading the article: just another modified Android
 Oh. Like cyanogen or something?
 Literally based on Lineage
 OK we are still boss then
 'every project is awesome, Wayne! Don't criticize other project's' - don't worry I'm not. I'm just excited we have something so powerful and roots freedom
 @wayneoutthere, Hi all.  … The 'UBPORTS APP-LAUNCH EXTRAVAGANZA' launched 6 apps trough the News Channel last few days and there is more to come.  … We were wondering what you think of it? Did/will you use the apps and are you able to provide a small review?
 are there any 3rd party apps built on UT using Python3?
 Eelo is the idea of the creator of Mandrake Linux. I see it as another distro based onf Lineage OS (new theme, launcher,notifications ...)
 @gouchi, I agree
 also they provide some cloud services
 A new email too if i read correctly
 @h4888, Yes, e.g. Hangups (Google Hangouts client) is one of them … https://github.com/tim-sueberkrueb/ubuntu-hangups
 @h4888, - https://github.com/delijati/fosdem-qml … - https://github.com/tim-sueberkrueb/ubuntu-hangups … - https://github.com/delijati/sparse-qml … and probably some more  :)
 @sverzegnassi you where faster ;)
 But less exhaustive :)
 ty all
 all examples use pyotherside ... i never tried pyside and qml ... maybe also worth a shot
 yeah I was reading up about pyotherside
 how does 1 sandbox UT for testing purposes?
 use a 16.04 LTS with ubuntu-toolkit-sdk installed .. an run the apps with  qmlscene Main.qml
 a ubports overlay for 16.04 LTS with unity8 would be nice ... but for now it should work like explained
 Yeah I am interested also for example if I want to mess with core things where should I start and how to test
 @UniversalSuperBox Mmm I now believe the WiFi problems were because of my home network and have now been resolved. Hotspot doesn't work (does it work on 32GB?) but perhaps it's been fixed on OTA-3.
 @Ferdieofficial It will work fine on the 64GB version and you also get an extra GB of RAM. The price is amazing and it's so worth it.
 @wayneoutthere, Woooow
 Exciting Openstore/App update has just been dropped in the UBports News Channel.  To learn more about this news be sure to subscribe to the News Channel here: https://t.me/ubports_news
 Thanks and done 👍🏻
 Fwd from UBports News Channel: [english] … ..and we just don't stop! … THE UBPORTS APP-LAUNCH EXTRAVAGANZA … Keep your eyes on the Ubports News Channel for the latest OpenStore *App Drops* as we spice up your cider. … For this round, we have the following TWO (2) drops for your Ubuntu Touch: … 1. PDFjs VIEWER by Boren Zhang (ranked No. 1 most requested app in poll) … https://open.uappexplorer.com/app/com.ubuntu.developer.bobo1993324.
[15:02] <tgBot> PACMAN PACK (Hipsters rejoice!) by Joan (@cibersheep) … https://open.uappexplorer.com/app/pacmanpack.cibersheep … Go grab these apps now and don't forget to thank  Joan CiberSheep, Boren Zhang and @mhall119 and rschroll for all the hard work and all the folks over at OpenStore! … Note: the OpenStore Team is always looking for app maintainers. If you can help, please let them know. … #ubports
 @sverzegnassi, well i meant "fork" more in the github sense here. the original code was on lp, then got "forked" into the ubports project, and then you seem to have a "fork" that has a couple changes, but missing a bunch from the "upstream fork" (presumably a bunch of automatic language updates though, i didn't check)
 Yeah, those are just the automatic lang updates. But I've been building DocViewer from the UBports repo, which is our current upstream
 Just wanted to make it clear since it was indeed ambiguous ^^
 @sverzegnassi, oh. the open store links to a repo owned by you as the web site, but to the ubports one for the issues link. should maybe fix that :)
 @dohbee, Oh my... really. Fixed it! Thanks for pointing it out! :)
 @sverzegnassi, no problem. thanks for building the app :)
 i thought for sure we shipped it by default on a couple retail images though
[15:49] <tgBot> * delijati oO(i'm a simple man i see i link i click)
 (nothing against praising, but umm not spam maybe?)
 😶
 The notifications are still not 100% userfriendly for me — It seems to notify me everytime instead of only when it needs to. There is quite the delay between seeing the message pop up on desktop on my E4.5 (rc channel) dinging, but it does so even if I immediately view the message on desktop. I suspect however, that this is out of your hands @Flohack but a problem of the Telegram team
 Nexus 5 users? Can anyone check "baseband version" in your phone? Thanks!
 where do you see that? only in android?
 in fastboo mode
 fastboot
 I see, can
 can't do it now...using it in desktop mode :P
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/3EMIIGx1/file_2988.jpg
 @PalmCentro ok, thanks. so you have much newer firmware than me. my version is M8974A-2.0.50.1.16
 do you remember what android version did you have before installing Ubuntu Touch?
 @samitormanen, The latest avail
 ok. thanks
 @peternerlich, It's not great with official Android version either.
 @dohbee, Then it's most definitely a server thing
 @peternerlich, Yep. Original author of tg app was dealing with some of these same complaints about notifications, too
 @peternerlich, Yes you are right, this is not in my hands. However, if you are in the same chat/dialog that brings a new mnessage for you, no notification should be generated by Telegram at all. Approx 5 seconds after a new message, when you did not read it on any device, we will get the notification
[18:22] <tgBot> webivorous was added by: webivorous
 @webivorous, Hello Arpit and welcome!  I'm part of the UBports welcoming team.    … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :)
 @Flohack, Actually, even on the web site, I'll sometimes not see new messages in the current chat, but the list of conversations on the left will be updated. And it will stay that way for well more than 5-10 seconds sometimes, when it happens.
 @milkor73 was asking me about notifications. To repeat again the timeline of events here: … 1) the change was prepared in devel and rc beginning of this week. At this time both of these channels go no notifications anymore … 2) Today Telegram has redirected all notifications to our server. This was necessary to give the server a final shot of testing. Since today, its opposite: stable does not get notifications, rc and devel do. … 3) Tomorrow 
[18:25] <tgBot> OTA, when users update, all channels are fine again … NOTE: You still need Ubuntu One sign in, nothing has changed, except 1 IP address for the push server ^^
 so there is definitely some weirdness on the telegram server side, in keeping things in sync
 @dohbee, Sure but its also normal in heavily distrubted systems that this can be pain in the a** ^^
 yes
 @peternerlich, Ah and regarding the delay: … Ubuntu Push client goes to sleep mode if you did not receive a notification for some time, to obvisoulsy save battery. So it switches to poll only every idk mayb 30-60 secs when not used for some time
 Sometimes I think even longer :P
 that's fine though
 @JBBgameich is this the official used kernel for krillin https://github.com/ubports/kernel_krillin ?
 @wayneoutthere, I did a bug report in yunit about that. Because it has to do with oxide itself I think. Or with unity8 in general
 (Photo, 1180x105) https://irc.ubports.com/fP9GOUuH/file_2990.jpg Push Server is pushing ^^
 @Flohack do you know how to get Cell signal strength info (dBm) in UT phones?
 By the way, Telegram told me that either we receive 60k msgs/day or between 200k-1m .. I am nervous about tomorrow. But they cant tell me better lol
 I cannot paste the link of the bug report lok
 @samitormanen, No, sorry. Is this coming from Ofono? Try to ask Halium guys /many porters inside), or Marius or Bhushan
 Lol
 @Flohack, What??
 @Flohack, ok, thanks
 @malditobastardo, Well that was the result of trying to find out how to size our push server in regard to CPU and memory lol
 @Flohack, Thx Florian
 @Flohack, Oh ok I though that they will say something about if we received less
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/9UmDtFZG/file_2992.jpg
 @samitormanen, one of the scripts that's included in ofono probably prints such info
 I do not receive notifications with Telegram 2.5.2.0
 @Hunter616, https://twitter.com/lanux_mage/status/943413278918762497
 Tomorrow latest on the evening you do an OTA update and they will be back
 Thanks
 @Flohack, In the image of Canonical there will be no more notifications? I got it right?
 @Bolly, I think I can confirm this. At least for telegram
 @Bolly, Yes this is correct. But its more precise: … - No notifications in Canonical image … - No notifications in UBports image with OTA-2
 @peternerlich, ok, thanks, good job everyone!!!
 @Flohack, Ok, very clear.
 @Flohack, this deserves it.... https://t.me/ubports_news
 @dohbee, you were right, following script gives modem info ./list-modems
 would be wonderful if we could get that modem info straight from settings page..
 @delijati, That's the one forked from BQ I think
 Our porting attempt used a 3.10 kernel, which was ported to the device later
 Maybe @mariogrip plans to run the existing krillin image in Haliums LXC setup so it's at least compatible with Halium ports ...
 But that's just a guess
[19:36] <rapha> hi
[19:37] <rapha> so i just installed ubports on an old nexus5
[19:37] <rapha> amazing
[19:37] <rapha> the install was easy enough i'd let my dad do it
 @rapha, 👍
[19:37] <rapha> :)
[19:37] <rapha> hmm
[19:37] <rapha> is there nothing like a "desktop" in ubports?
[19:37] <rapha> i.e. the apps screen is the default screen?
 Notifications are very important. Each people wants a type of notifications and others think it is an annoying beep and beep. When someone is creating a new issue it would be interesting that he asked the system to give a new index. So, you could configure your app to sound only if a commentary has that index. You could add various indices too. Other option is that the app sounds only when something is said by the people you want. I think noti
[19:37] <tgBot> should be discused by many people and time.
[19:39]  * rapha flashes unstable to see how that's different
 hint, it's unstable :)
[19:39] <rapha> well the phone is brolen anyways ... not gonna become a daily driver or anything
[19:39] <rapha> it's a shame
 @rapha, UT Tweak Tool can do this for you.  … https://uappexplorer.com/app/ut-tweak-tool.sverzegnassi
 does that hide the dash though?
[19:41] <rapha> tgBot: i doubt it can fix a slack joint in the sim card slot. if anything i would have to try and reflow the mainboard.
 telegram bridged to irc is not entirely clear on whom is speaking about what
[19:42] <rapha> oh!
 @Crash_Burn was suggesting tweak tool for the background
[19:42] <rapha> oic
[19:43] <rapha> thanks for the suggestions Crash_Burn
 tgbot is just the bridge bot, which relays messages between irc and telegram. :)
 @rapha, I think i misunderstood his question.  No there is no default screen... it would be the app scope.
[19:43] <rapha> yeah i know but it's difficult to re-train yourself to be aware of it
 yeah, it's hard to follow for me, and i use both irc and telegram :)
[19:44] <rapha> Crash_Burn: I suffer from ADDH so having a neutral screen (no icons, nothing that could pull my attention away) is a matter of accessibility for me.
 @rapha, Sorry to hear that... I think I understand what you are saying.  I don't know the best solution but I would try switching to Windowed mode using UT tweak tool and try that out.  Without kb/mouse it will be tricky to use though.
[19:47] <rapha> hmm
[19:48] <rapha> okay i'll play around with, just evaluating for the moment. i'd like to use ubtouch on my nexus4 (nothing broken there) as a full-time android replacement but first have to check if there's an app for everything. thus the install on the broken nexus5 first.
 I wonder if it would be possible to make a blank scope.. and then just swiped in from the left to find an app?
[19:48] <rapha> i would love that!
[19:48] <rapha> even if it just displayed a color, gradient, or picture.
 Rapha, you can make the icons black and white if you wish, by making Falcon your default scope
[19:49] <rapha> (pic is best ofc because then everybody can choose what they like best)
 Any scope can be ordered to be the default
 So second scope for me is Music... how does it look if you swipe app scope left and pull up music scope?
[19:51] <rapha> Stereofront: i'm not distracted by colours as opposed to monochrome usually. it's more of a "oh look, that app, i could check that next" problem. the worst thing ever are facebook-style notifications (little numbers in circles). in that respect, liking ubports a lot so far.
[19:51] <rapha> Crash_Burn: atm still waiting for the update to unstable finishing.
 Rapha. Try installing commandfu which is practically a blank screen
 @rapha, rapaha @KrisJacewicz , Kris is working on something to kill scopes and use UT as a desktop with wallpaper etc, maybe you should write to him or wait for his answer, he may help you with your problem :)
[19:57] <rapha> KrisJacewicz: is there something that can be installed already? :)
[19:59] <rapha> weird. trying to use the ubuntu store to install ut tweak tool and commandfu, but the search keeps on going forever
[20:01] <rapha> hmm i guess a calendar scope would also work
[20:10] <rapha> seems both stores are broken athm
[20:10] <rapha> atm*
[20:10] <rapha> i'll try again tomorrow
[20:10] <rapha> thank you for all the suggestions! :)
 My fairphone2 reboots every time i import a pdf with pdfjsviewer --» fileManager (stable)
 I'm on devel channel
 my 2 cents on how to think about growth and scaling in a healthy way. https://forums.ubports.com/topic/782/organize-and-stimulate-promotion-of-ubports-ubuntu-touch/14
 @profetik777, Well stated! +1
 @Matteo, Thank you sir
 @profetik777, Marketing to those who come within our 'orbit' is very good. As always, the question is "what are the characteristics of the target audience". We are maybe not clear enough about that - and in any case, the nature of the audience will evolve. Nobody goes looking for a 'Android Marshmallow' phone. They look for hardware. That will become more true for us, as we progress
 :D
 I cant attach images now anymore
 ok my phone just restarted
 @Xenial, Well I was just trying this also everything worked well except that when I tried to send a picture here telegram went crazy
 now my phone restarted
 rebooted*
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/maKzxOjK/file_2994.jpg
 Finally! Anyways. My phone is rebooting using the pdf viewer
 sorry for asking a maybe stupid question: which is the recommended way to install ubports on my FP2? on ubports.com I find ubports-installer. is this OK?
 @Daniel, Various ways but that is fine. Visit Welcome Room if you would like a walkthrough
 :)
 Thanks! I hope I'll make it without welcome room, I have already done it several times, but this has been months ago. I was just wondering which way would be best. Maybe I'll come there, if I can't make it ;)
 Work has been done on the installer since then. Should be easier
 the installer was the easiest thing i ever used when I flashed my N5
 @Stereofont, Thats my concern. The way I propose thinking about it is from a growth mindset, in that we do 2 things: 1. Actively increase our orbit, which 2 increases the propensity to find more of those who fall within the RANGE of various target population profiles ( I use this word intentionally because not everyone who is interested in UBports projects in the same way or with the same technical abilities).
 I did it in my MacOS
 Remember to NOT choose stable if you have a new version display
 (:
 @profetik777, Nature abhors a vacuum. Right now, there is a gravitational field towards used Nexus 5
 ：）
 @Flohack, woaah... that might be considered a 'busy community'
 :D
 @Bolly, no ding-a-ling-ling from the news feed??? :(  Didn't think about that. haha
 @Stereofont, don't know exactly what you mean by that
 @wayneoutthere, Lets see... currently 100 devices roughly produced 3k messages since 10 AM today, which is 12 hrs ^^
 @profetik777, There is a hardware focus of sorts but not a planned one
 ah
 yeah, and that should be the case
 my thing is it doesn't have to be THE ONLY case.
 Or that one is at the expense of the other
 but alas, don'tt want to fill up the telegram
 @Flohack, But you already receive the full load of telegram notifications on your push server, right? The phones on `stable` just aren't configured to fetch them
 @profetik777, agree with your points for sure.  I'll try to spew some comments in the forum....but it is a forum...
 :D
 @peternerlich, yes
 like our hardware focus should be the thing that throttles finding more support in an intentional manner
 @profetik777, On topic. Very much so. BQ 4.5 was embraced despite being a pretty dreadful device
 your observations are correct ^^
 :)
 @wayneoutthere, I think i'll post more there more long form thoughts and discussion
 @profetik777, +1
 cant view video #7 … Open … NeoTheThird opened this Issue on 27 May · 5 comments
 @wayneoutthere, It's never too late 😜
 😿😿
 done. installer is nice :)
 @Daniel, 🎉🎉
 good night, I'll be off for playing around ;)
 @Daniel, That has to be one of the easiest ever 👍
 Ladies and Gents! All OTA-3 bugs/issues have been closed! https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/milestone/6?closed=1
 @Flohack, @wayneoutthere
 @Flohack, go have a sip of a fine scotch
 ... and a cigar or pipe.
 lol
 I quit smoking long time ago
 and look down at your fine work
 @Flohack, i said cigar or pipe
 that's not smoking
 that's reflecting
 @Flohack Congratz for the OTA3!!!! I just wanted to know if there is any plans to continue analyzing whats going on the video bug thing we are dealing in hammerhead for the next 16.04 OTA4?
 Thank you for everything, everyone
 @profetik777, this is somewhat related. I posted this 'bug' today.   … https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/371
 @Flohack, Congrats! There is something to market / podcast about lol @wayneoutthere
 What about beer 🍺 ?
 @nfsprodriver, No, no.  Beer is for an RC release.  This is OTA.  Fine scotch and a bowl of sweet pipe tobacco.
 lol
 😹😹
 @wayneoutthere let's race to see who publishes first the news
 I will record in a few minutes the next episode of the portuguese podcast
 @wayneoutthere - if he is on his coffee kick, he will always win
 @profetik777, not this week..... it has been full of non UBports work/surprises.  Including my back.  I threw it out and couldn't move.  I was sweating from the pain.  Fun times!  But today is much better and fairly mobile.  Friday at best will I be able to find a mic
 @wayneoutthere Your back isn't better?
 https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/12/apple-has-a-plan-for-universal-apps-across-ios-and-macos-report-says/ … Hmmm.... this sounds a lot like convergence :)
 @Crash_Burn, They have been dumbing down MacOS for years, so it figures
 :D
 lol "Marzipan"
 wow that article is all over the place with speculative nonsense
 speculatius nonsense!
 spatula nonsense
 oh wow not only speculative .. even straight out nonsense
 @Crash_Burn, it won't fix their core issues of lockdown and control.  Even if it works.
 not sure what you mean by that
 @malditobastardo, Well we dont know yet if OTA-4 will be 16.04 or not. But the video bug is still on the list, yes
 So if we can fix it, then it will be OTA-4 ^^
 Thank you boss. :)
 @Crash_Burn, Oh boy, here we go again with all the concepts people think out for themselves and then claiming them as rumors :’)
 @Crash_Burn, Currently, support for pointing devices is missing in iOS11. More likely, it might be (or evolve as) an internal project for adding Magic Mouse support on iPad Pro. It'd be a more realistic, yet interesting, speculation
 You know what isn't missing support for pointing devices? … Mir.
 case. closed.
 @sverzegnassi, They mean an iPad with a 28" screen 😐
 That would be ridiculous and hilarious
 @UniversalSuperBox, You heard it here first 🤗
 @Stereofont, I'm signing up for a Kickstarter account right now!
 The large Microsoft Surface, with the Dial, is probably about that big, if not bigger. It’s a useful tool if you’re a designer or architect. Apple will have taken note of that.
 @stuartlangridge, They abandoned professionals a while back. Not sure they will do a U-turn
 who abandoned whom?
 Apple abandoned professionals for the mass market
 not really
 whatever that means
 Professionals have not abandoned them.
 "professionals" is an extremely vague and useless term
 it simply means one gets paid to do a thing
 Videographers, photographers, musicians, animators
 yeah, going to stick with my aforementioned "not really" on that on e:)
 one
 btw @stuartlangridge did you figure out the wifitransfer issue?
 (also, why doesn't telegram let me autocomplete your name?!)
 It's been flaky lately. Normally restarting the client does the trick.
 The autocomplete, that is
 i'm using the web site
 Oh yeah, that just is generally bad
 Servicable, but not the greatest experience.
 well, better than pretty much everything else on my pc, so far
 @dohbee, No. I don’t know why it didn’t connect for that chap, and I’m not sure how to debug it. I could add a thing which gathers logs in the app and sends them, but that’s Real Work, which gets to take its place in my project list, and it ain’t the top.
 @UniversalSuperBox, why haven't we done this yet?
 Done... what?
 a kickstarter fundraiser.
 :)
 don't say you need a plan
 Money is hard
 oh
 true
 just get a non-refundable waiver signed "YOu will never see this money again but you might see something cool for it!"
 Taxes are hard
 UBports is still not a legal entitity
 @UniversalSuperBox, Tax's are an adults Job
 @UniversalSuperBox, Omg. Smh.
 Seriously though that's a good question. Why not have a campaign for online donations. ?f doesn't have to be kick starter
 You mean, to improve liberapay or patreon?
 Increase donations with a email social media push in a certain window of time.
 That translates to spike of online giving out any kind
 Do we have a guesstimate ETA in GMT + 00:00 when any device will get OTA-3 tomorrow? Are you aiming for a simultaneous release for *all* devices?
 Pois isso e mesmo mau se não continuar as atualizaçoes anteriores o que vale de contribuir em! … Eu falo por mim e por muitos naisbque não tem curarem de tal. … Para que serve duare então? … Nao vai ser assim que vão conquistar o publico  a mudar … Voces ignoram o que eu tc aqui mas e a rialidade tenho um grupo que não e pequeno que tento mudar para ubuntu seja em PC ou phone assim não e facil. … Mas vocês desenvulvedores e que 
 Questions are hard too 😂 jk
 @Ratattuile, En ingles, por favor
 ^ :)
 (I know, I don't have the accent on my keyboard)
 Ibgles  0
 Um tradutor plis
 Tal vez pueda encontrar algo en la parte inferior de https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 @UniversalSuperBox, I only know a small amount of Spanish. I'm sure that this is horrible grammar.
 @UniversalSuperBox, So this and taxes are the reason?
 At the moment, we're happy with how everything is performing and we don't want to take things too out of hand before the Foundation is approved by the German government
 Ok mas isso não diz nada so leva com que deixem de usar ubuntu phone
 Que era uauuuuuuuuuuuu
 I do agree that mo money = mo goals achieved, but it also = mo problems
 @Ratattuile, "LANGUAGE FOCUS GROUPS ON TELEGRAM" - Português
 I realize now that he is not, in fact, speaking Spanish. I don't know enough to distinguish between Spanish and Portuguese... :/
 Haha I had a feeling it may have been the latter1
 !*
 @Ratattuile, Bom Dia!
 Nao importa qual idioma minguem liga na mesma nos contribuímos com euros
 @Flohack I made commits to keyboard-component months ago, but aren't merged into ubports-touch :/
 Mas não importa a cobtinuãçao
 @Ratattuile, paulo.
 you are in the english group. haha
 @Ratattuile, UBports en Portogues: https://t.me/joinchat/ALdCegI_knZj301cCAbSMw
 he's already in
 lol
 he's typing in the wrong group
 @turanmahmudov, hmm yes sometimes we loose track, sorry. can you point me to this
 you know what it is?  it's probably that telegram 'lag' when you go to the contact list and he THINKS he's hitting portuguese but... bonus!  He hits Enlgihs
 @Seumas, ETA I cant tell you now but release will be for all, yes
 @Flohack, hmm both are merged
 Sim eu sei que não tou a tc no grupo inglês...  mas nu tuga minguem responde
 @Ratattuile, no grupo ingles?  I think this is ingles
 @Flohack https://github.com/ubports/keyboard-component/pull/17 … https://github.com/ubports/keyboard-component/pull/16
 yes, both PRs have been merged?
 @Flohack https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/373 … https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/374
 @turanmahmudov, Compare with https://github.com/ubports/keyboard-component/pull/22/commits -> I think you are missing some files
 Ok no, its not 2 keyboards, only the prediction db
 @Flohack I don't think so
 So you cant see the turkish one?
 Also i see `Copyright 2013 Canonical Ltd.` not really correct :)
 I am on the latest devel channel, and I can't see turkish
 lol @mariogrip how can we get keyboard updated? is it master or vivid branch?
 Hell those branches make me crazy
 Turan’s PRs are merged in master, but I guess we are currently building ‘vivid’. Isn’t it?
 vivid
 yep Im afraid, then also the swiss keyboard will not work
 very bad
 I am going to bed its ultra-late ^^
 @Flohack, not sure why it's closed as "works"...
 @neothethird swiss keyboard cant work, its the wrong branch ^^
 is there anything that I need to do? :D