[00:00] OTA-3 contains that fix [00:05] @milkor73, Looks like encoding issue? [00:07] @dohbee, You think? It’s just an ftp connection to a server [00:08] Well look at the path [00:09] Err, the .local domain even [00:09] Sure, but it didn’t work in Connect to Server or FileZilla by entering ip only either [00:11] The Quick Note app by Verzegnassi is good but if it would have nextcloud sync and it show in today scope will be better, like calendar app. [00:11] Well I don't know the code, but I would start from the encoding to debug [00:14] I’d be interested in hearing if it fails for others. [01:03] luiski was added by: luiski [01:13] @stuartlangridge, Wifitransfer works fine for me. Is there any specific scenario you want tested? ( I am on devel channel on an N5 connecting to filezilla client on Ubuntu desktop) [01:15] @matv1, I don’t know. It works for me too; I’d like to know why it doesn’t work for @milkor73 :) [01:22] allright @stuartlangridge. If you could, a respin with corrected font size some day would be great though ;) [01:26] Agreed on the font size thing. :) [01:26] I think one ofthe last framework updates by Canonical caused that fonts issue for older apps [01:27] The tiny font is a bug. However, it should only apply to people who aren’t using the Ubuntu or File Mgr connections :) [01:27] I’ll still fix it, though. [01:28] great! and thanks for a still very usefull app [03:43] Here is an off-topic secret that literally no-one probably knows. Anyone who (was forced) to switch to Gnome may have had a really hard time or annoyance finding the suspend (pause) button. Well... accidentally, I just discovered that if you PUSH & HOLD the power button it magically becomes a suspend button!! High fives all around! [03:44] that is actualy the smartest, most revolutionary function on any machine I've used. Super clean/simple idea [03:44] @wayneoutthere, it's configurable afaik [03:44] with dconf or whatever gnome uses atm [03:45] but yeah, neat idea. i used gnome for 40 minutes in my life and that was the first thing i noticed [03:45] i couldn't stand it for an hour, hell i'm weak [03:45] there were a lot of keyboard shortcut 'solutions' and my wife found a way to get it done but really bugged me [03:45] try elementary OS if you are annoyed with Gnome [03:46] it's based on Ubuntu and features a simmilar DE to Gnome. I call it "Gnome done right" [03:46] i remember i already suggested it to you some time ago. it's really neat [03:46] @vanyasem, i might.... [03:47] you really should, spin it in a VM when you get some spare time [03:47] ok its 'on the list' (which is long) :) [03:47] make sure to install it in a VM, not just "try it". not all functions are availiable in live mode [03:47] @wayneoutthere, prioritize it! [03:48] @vanyasem, roger [03:49] @wayneoutthere, You mean Ivan? [03:49] 😂 [03:51] @wayneoutthere, have you left the OT chat [03:51] i've sent a nice picture of elementary os there [06:57] Guys. Just wondering. Where can I get a Meizu Pro 5 right now? [07:33] I messed up 😂 Could someone give default sources.list file? [07:51] @Dohxis, vivid? [07:51] yeah [07:53] https://pastebin.com/eBrmDMWu [07:54] this is already fixed content for after Vivid reached OEL. You can update and isntall stuff on it right away. [07:54] *EOL [07:55] Thanks [08:17] @wayneoutthere, I can support that! I'm running it as a daily driver on my laptop (don't have a pc) and it's GORGEOUS! [08:20] @wayneoutthere, Except that you can't find it except by pure luck [08:21] Undiscoverable is not good design [08:21] Oh, I didn't even know of that way, I only remember holding shift [08:30] I think it's pretty clever. I love it. :) [08:30] Keeps things clean, yet still remains functional. [08:37] Would be better if you could find it [08:38] KDE does it better [08:39] Only shows common options, and when you select one it starts a 30 second countdown with that option selected and also offering you to switch to suspend instead [08:43] @Lorxu, I can find it. I did. :P [08:44] @Lorxu, KDE does simple by default. Doesn't necessarily mean better, [08:44] Well, not simple, more... Traditional. [08:44] At least you can find it easily on KDE [08:45] 🤷‍♂️ [08:57] GNOME could be everything but still its more faster than Unity7 and for me thats a win win [09:23] @Ferdieofficial, Take care. You need the International version, not the China version [09:31] https://twitter.com/lanux_mage/status/943413278918762497 [09:49] @Seumas, DocViewer is not a preinstalled app, nor it was when it was still part of the Ubuntu Core Apps project. It takes a lot of space due to the inclusion of a minimal version of LibreOffice inside the .click package, in order to fulfill the requirements of the ODF viewer backend (which is LibreOfficeKit). With the next year, I'll try to merge back all the changes I was working on when I left the Core Apps team (I've been maintaing the offic [09:49] DocViewer project since October 2014). [09:52] On a sidenote, the DocViewer version available on OpenStore is 100% the version that used to be available on the Ubuntu Store. It's not "a fork of a fork of a core app", but it's the version from the UBports repos. I'm going to move the app ownership to the recently created "UBports Apps" account, to make it less ambiguous :) [10:02] @sverzegnassi, 🎂📣🤗😍 [10:05] @sverzegnassi, Thanks for such a great app 👏👌 [10:12] @vanyasem, Ivan, I checked the site and it really looks gorgeous. Just one question aside though. This OS is based on Gnome, thus not on Unity 7 or 8 whatever it is...what about future fully working experience convergence with UT phone? The fact that it is based on Gnome, doesn't it mean that it could be eventually more difficult to make the phone and desktop speak each other properly? Sorry, maybe it is a silly question but just to be sure, because [10:12] interested to change Desktop OS but only if it is fully operational against UT. Thanks! [10:13] @Matteo, the desktop environment is Pantheon [10:14] it's neither Unity or Gnome [10:14] it's Pantheon [10:14] it's not an OS for phones though, so I have no idea why are you talking about convergence [10:15] convergence is when your phone is a computer and you use an HDMI adapter and BT keyboard with it [10:25] @vanyasem, That's clear, but convergence would be also intended sharing same apps. I was asking if Unity of UT talking to a different Desktop OS could raise issues, that's all. I'm not a developer so maybe I don't fully understand all the programming details here. From your answer I understand the UT Unity talking to Pantheon will be seamless. [10:26] @vanyasem, I suppose there is an argument for convergence and desktop modes being similar, so that you get into same habits with both. Not because they are functionally connected [10:26] X11 forwarding via ssh will work on any distro with X11 [10:26] if that's what you're talking about [10:27] costales was added by: costales [10:28] @costales, Hi costales! [10:28] @Matteo, to be honest I have no idea what you're talking about [10:29] @Flohack, Hi 😘 [10:30] one question please, links like scope://com.canonical.scopes.clickstore?q=unavapp are not working in the ubports, which is the recommendation to change them? [10:32] @Matteo, anyways elementary is just Ubuntu 16.04 with some cosmetic changes. try it out, it should work [10:32] I don't use Ubuntu at all, it's hard for me to tell [10:34] @costales, Hey Marcos! I'd suggest you to invoke the OpenStore app, by linking to openstore://navigator.costales [10:34] @sverzegnassi, Just that? Clever implementation! Thanks a lot 😃 [10:38] I JUST GOT MY FIRST PROPER TELEGRAM NOTIFICATION! 🎉🎉🎉 ALL HAIL @Flohack!!! [10:38] haha thanks for the lowers. You never had them before? [10:39] I don't think so, cannot remember clearly [10:39] Thanks for the new Telegram Update! The reconnect after net loss is a blessing! [10:39] at least not for the last months [10:39] Well to ALL: on devel and rc you are live with the new push server and you will get all notifications now [10:39] stable needs to be patient until tomorrow 😆 [10:40] Switched channel right now [10:41] (→/praise_flohack← This command does nothing, so click it as much as you want to signal praise to Florian) [10:41] lol [10:41] hahahaha [10:41] oh, self praise [10:41] let's all take our time to appreciate @Flohack 's work [10:41] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/x9k4uhoN/file_2985.mp4 [10:42] @vanyasem, I got 3 devices here and they all chime when you mention me 😆 [10:43] print (" @Flohack is awesome") [10:43] gratz, another victory on the legacy situation [10:43] just 6-ish to go ;) [11:19] saidinesh5 was added by: saidinesh5 [11:19] @saidinesh5, welcome [11:20] thank you [11:21] Hi @saidinesh5! I'm part of the welcoming team. Please take a moment to read https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome and feel free to ask any questions, especially in the Newcomers Room! [11:22] (Y) [11:31] @Flohack hello boss. I am in devel and still receiving notifications in telegram [11:32] Great. I just read above [11:32] Lol [11:32] @malditobastardo, Yes sure its the opposite: stable lost them now until tomorrow [11:32] Love you guys [11:32] @malditobastardo, I think this is expected and a good sign. The server just got switched [11:33] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/TzsQSM0C/file_2986 [11:57] @stefanomelchior, I just received this telegram notification [11:57] OTA3 is coming [12:31] @Ferdieofficial, may I recommend: [12:32] tinyurl.com/yd6e [12:33] * tinyurl.com/yd6sg4r9 [12:33] Forgive Tinyurl use, but for whatever reason I can't paste from the browser into telegram on MP5 (fix in OTA-3?). [12:35] That's the best version of the phone, International version at a bargain price. Recommend the seller. You just need to wait a few days for delivery then move it from Flyme to Ubports. [13:04] @Seumas, This one is 64 GB, will it work with the port? I thought it only supports 32 GB [13:04] Seumas weren't you reporting problems with Wi-Fi and cellular radios? [13:04] @Seumas, The paste thingy is a big issue indeed [13:24] Don't want to start complaints but that just reminded me. One of my biggest user complaints is how poorly UT handles select-all, copy and paste. I do feel this will be a hard pill for many people coming from fruit and robot platforms.. I dont understand why that would be but I dont understand development [13:25] Probably because no one has worked on it? [13:25] But it you're willing to send some patches to make text selection better, we're happy to have them [13:26] @Rawcode, Hes compiling his code, he's checking it twice, gonna find out if it's buggy or nice, OTA3 is coming... To town [13:31] What is this? Someonenin turkish group found. How is it that we cant all just focus on one until its rocking and then flavour out from there? https://fossbytes.com/eelo-mobile-os-open-source-android-alternative/ [13:32] @UniversalSuperBox, My lip volcano is locked and loaded... [13:32] @wayneoutthere, Reading the article: just another modified Android [13:33] Oh. Like cyanogen or something? [13:33] Literally based on Lineage [13:33] OK we are still boss then [13:35] 'every project is awesome, Wayne! Don't criticize other project's' - don't worry I'm not. I'm just excited we have something so powerful and roots freedom [13:47] @wayneoutthere, Hi all. … The 'UBPORTS APP-LAUNCH EXTRAVAGANZA' launched 6 apps trough the News Channel last few days and there is more to come. … We were wondering what you think of it? Did/will you use the apps and are you able to provide a small review? [13:50] are there any 3rd party apps built on UT using Python3? [13:53] Eelo is the idea of the creator of Mandrake Linux. I see it as another distro based onf Lineage OS (new theme, launcher,notifications ...) [13:54] @gouchi, I agree [13:54] also they provide some cloud services [13:54] A new email too if i read correctly [13:55] @h4888, Yes, e.g. Hangups (Google Hangouts client) is one of them … https://github.com/tim-sueberkrueb/ubuntu-hangups [13:55] @h4888, - https://github.com/delijati/fosdem-qml … - https://github.com/tim-sueberkrueb/ubuntu-hangups … - https://github.com/delijati/sparse-qml … and probably some more :) [13:55] @sverzegnassi you where faster ;) [13:56] But less exhaustive :) [13:57] ty all [13:57] all examples use pyotherside ... i never tried pyside and qml ... maybe also worth a shot [13:58] yeah I was reading up about pyotherside [14:00] how does 1 sandbox UT for testing purposes? [14:01] use a 16.04 LTS with ubuntu-toolkit-sdk installed .. an run the apps with qmlscene Main.qml [14:02] a ubports overlay for 16.04 LTS with unity8 would be nice ... but for now it should work like explained [14:09] Yeah I am interested also for example if I want to mess with core things where should I start and how to test [14:13] @UniversalSuperBox Mmm I now believe the WiFi problems were because of my home network and have now been resolved. Hotspot doesn't work (does it work on 32GB?) but perhaps it's been fixed on OTA-3. [14:14] @Ferdieofficial It will work fine on the 64GB version and you also get an extra GB of RAM. The price is amazing and it's so worth it. [14:34] @wayneoutthere, Woooow [14:43] Exciting Openstore/App update has just been dropped in the UBports News Channel. To learn more about this news be sure to subscribe to the News Channel here: https://t.me/ubports_news [15:02] Thanks and done 👍🏻 [15:02] Fwd from UBports News Channel: [english] … ..and we just don't stop! … THE UBPORTS APP-LAUNCH EXTRAVAGANZA … Keep your eyes on the Ubports News Channel for the latest OpenStore *App Drops* as we spice up your cider. … For this round, we have the following TWO (2) drops for your Ubuntu Touch: … 1. PDFjs VIEWER by Boren Zhang (ranked No. 1 most requested app in poll) … https://open.uappexplorer.com/app/com.ubuntu.developer.bobo1993324. [15:02] PACMAN PACK (Hipsters rejoice!) by Joan (@cibersheep) … https://open.uappexplorer.com/app/pacmanpack.cibersheep … Go grab these apps now and don't forget to thank Joan CiberSheep, Boren Zhang and @mhall119 and rschroll for all the hard work and all the folks over at OpenStore! … Note: the OpenStore Team is always looking for app maintainers. If you can help, please let them know. … #ubports [15:15] @sverzegnassi, well i meant "fork" more in the github sense here. the original code was on lp, then got "forked" into the ubports project, and then you seem to have a "fork" that has a couple changes, but missing a bunch from the "upstream fork" (presumably a bunch of automatic language updates though, i didn't check) [15:22] Yeah, those are just the automatic lang updates. But I've been building DocViewer from the UBports repo, which is our current upstream [15:23] Just wanted to make it clear since it was indeed ambiguous ^^ [15:27] @sverzegnassi, oh. the open store links to a repo owned by you as the web site, but to the ubports one for the issues link. should maybe fix that :) [15:29] @dohbee, Oh my... really. Fixed it! Thanks for pointing it out! :) [15:38] @sverzegnassi, no problem. thanks for building the app :) [15:39] i thought for sure we shipped it by default on a couple retail images though [15:49] * delijati oO(i'm a simple man i see i link i click) [16:43] (nothing against praising, but umm not spam maybe?) [16:53] 😶 [17:24] The notifications are still not 100% userfriendly for me — It seems to notify me everytime instead of only when it needs to. There is quite the delay between seeing the message pop up on desktop on my E4.5 (rc channel) dinging, but it does so even if I immediately view the message on desktop. I suspect however, that this is out of your hands @Flohack but a problem of the Telegram team [17:32] Nexus 5 users? Can anyone check "baseband version" in your phone? Thanks! [17:38] where do you see that? only in android? [17:38] in fastboo mode [17:38] fastboot [17:38] I see, can [17:39] can't do it now...using it in desktop mode :P [17:48] (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/3EMIIGx1/file_2988.jpg [17:49] @PalmCentro ok, thanks. so you have much newer firmware than me. my version is M8974A-2.0.50.1.16 [17:50] do you remember what android version did you have before installing Ubuntu Touch? [18:06] @samitormanen, The latest avail [18:06] ok. thanks [18:13] @peternerlich, It's not great with official Android version either. [18:14] @dohbee, Then it's most definitely a server thing [18:15] @peternerlich, Yep. Original author of tg app was dealing with some of these same complaints about notifications, too [18:20] @peternerlich, Yes you are right, this is not in my hands. However, if you are in the same chat/dialog that brings a new mnessage for you, no notification should be generated by Telegram at all. Approx 5 seconds after a new message, when you did not read it on any device, we will get the notification [18:22] webivorous was added by: webivorous [18:24] @webivorous, Hello Arpit and welcome! I'm part of the UBports welcoming team. … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :) [18:25] @Flohack, Actually, even on the web site, I'll sometimes not see new messages in the current chat, but the list of conversations on the left will be updated. And it will stay that way for well more than 5-10 seconds sometimes, when it happens. [18:25] @milkor73 was asking me about notifications. To repeat again the timeline of events here: … 1) the change was prepared in devel and rc beginning of this week. At this time both of these channels go no notifications anymore … 2) Today Telegram has redirected all notifications to our server. This was necessary to give the server a final shot of testing. Since today, its opposite: stable does not get notifications, rc and devel do. … 3) Tomorrow [18:25] OTA, when users update, all channels are fine again … NOTE: You still need Ubuntu One sign in, nothing has changed, except 1 IP address for the push server ^^ [18:25] so there is definitely some weirdness on the telegram server side, in keeping things in sync [18:26] @dohbee, Sure but its also normal in heavily distrubted systems that this can be pain in the a** ^^ [18:26] yes [18:30] @peternerlich, Ah and regarding the delay: … Ubuntu Push client goes to sleep mode if you did not receive a notification for some time, to obvisoulsy save battery. So it switches to poll only every idk mayb 30-60 secs when not used for some time [18:30] Sometimes I think even longer :P [18:30] that's fine though [18:36] @JBBgameich is this the official used kernel for krillin https://github.com/ubports/kernel_krillin ? [18:39] @wayneoutthere, I did a bug report in yunit about that. Because it has to do with oxide itself I think. Or with unity8 in general [18:40] (Photo, 1180x105) https://irc.ubports.com/fP9GOUuH/file_2990.jpg Push Server is pushing ^^ [18:41] @Flohack do you know how to get Cell signal strength info (dBm) in UT phones? [18:41]